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You have recently reviewed and commented on the article I created [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Bali_Balm Bali Balm Draft]. I can understand and completely appreciate the comments that you |
You have recently reviewed and commented on the article I created [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Bali_Balm Bali Balm Draft]. I can understand and completely appreciate the comments that you made. I am just wondering whether you offer some sort of consulting service?? in which you could help and advise me on how to improve my article so that It can be successfully published onto Wikipedia. |
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I am fairly new to Wikipedia and It would be a great sense of achievement if I could get my first page published and then continue to contribute to the Wikipedia platform. |
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Would greatly appreciate your help/tips and it would be great to learn from you, I look forward to hearing back from you. |
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how does copyright concerning art i drew work? i know its not copyrighted because like,, its my art but i think i need more understanding. tysm! RemiruPlushie (talk) 16:45, 5 May 2021 (UTC) ps : have this
edits on page "audiotool"
Hey S0091,
I've read your comment regarding a potential conflict of interest. I was aware of that risk and hence, I a) limited my edits on page Audiotool to corrections and b) explicitly disclosed me being affiliated to the project. If that's still not sufficient, I can of course use edit requests for future matters!
--Koeln Andre (talk) 21:25, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Koeln Andre:, you did the right thing by declaring your COI in you edit summaries. However it strongly preferred those with a COI make edit requests rather than edit the article directly. Generally, COI edits are reverted (undone) but I did not think for the most part the changes you made were particularly problematic, except for the number of users (needs source) and removing the "Needs more sources" tag. Please do be aware content should cite a reliable source and unsourced content can be removed at anytime. As it stands currently, most the of the article is unsourced thus the tag is correct and should not be removed. Honestlly, what would be helpful for the article is providing sources unaffiliated with the company. I appreciate the note. S0091 (talk) 21:59, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- Dear @S0091: - thanks for the feedback and clarification. All makes sense, will act accordingly ;-) (And will check for some non-company-related sources - as I know some things are either correct or not, but that doesn't make it an independent source...) Cheers! --Koeln Andre (talk) 16:00, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
User:SteveBrockMedia question
I’d like to know the best options to have an article about me. I feel strongly that this might legitimize me more in the industry. I came to this because Oracle of Bacon switched to Wikipedia articles instead of IMDb, I actually have a Bacon number of 2, but now I can’t look something like that up. I plan on being in this industry for quite some time. Advice?
- @SteveBrockMedia: An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing; it certainly shouldn't legitimatize you in any sort of industry or help your career in any way. If you insist, you can request an article about yourself here. --I dream of horses (Contribs) Please notify me if replying off my talk page. Thank you. 22:59, 22 May 2021 (UTC) (added ping at 23:01, 22 May 2021 (UTC))
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untitled
Hey there, I recognize this page is currently a copy of Pennsbury Inn. I was unable to rename that one (although it has value in being on its own) and am just using the template as a starting point. I have a ton of data to drop in over time and it will take on a form of its own over time. Thank you for the add. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradeckxx (talk • contribs) 00:52, May 24, 2021 (UTC)
Help with my first proposed contributions
Hello S0091, thanks for the warm welcome on Wikipedia. I am writing to you here to get some help on my first proposed contributions to the article about Partners Group (here). As you can see I've tried to suggest a few edits to the lead section of the page, primarily updating figures and increasing the accuracy of the article's intro. Could you help me with this and let me know what you think about my suggestions? Thanks a lot for your time and help Milevka Grceva (talk) 09:16, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
SBS Loud's Leaving Contestants
Hello. Thank you for updating the elimination chart. Do you know why Riku and Ham Mo-hyeob left SBS' Loud? Any proof that can be helpful?
A2013a (talk) 11:41, 27 May 2021 (UTC)A2013a
- @A2013a: I think you have wrong person. S0091 (talk) 15:10, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- @S0091: Based on what I found on the program's website, it's true that Riku and Ham Mo-hyeob have left SBS' Loud. You don't need to edit the elimination chart, unless an elimination round is happening or more contestants leave the program. Also, please keep the contestants' information table unchanged, unless necessary. A2013a (talk) 15:54, 29 May 2021 (UTC)A2013a
- @A2013a: I have not edited the article so again, I think you have the wrong editor. Maybe you mean St3095? S0091 (talk) 16:01, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- @S0091: I meant by St3095. He is responsible for updating the elimination chart. A2013a (talk) 16:34, 29 May 2021 (UTC)A2013a
- (talk page stalker) @A2013a, I'll ping @St3095 for you. I dream of horses (Contribs) Please notify me if replying off my talk page. Thank you. 23:07, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Saying thank you!
Hi S0091!
Thank you for this comment on my talk page. I appreciate you taking the time to write me this message! I hope I will be able to make useful Wiki contributions in the future using this advice.
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Hi! I partially agree with the changes you made to my latest edit within the page. It is my mistake I did not make a comment. Nevertheless, I only remove what seems to be a cited source, but those sources actually do not exist. I also added some sourced activities related to that part of the article. You also added an Overly detailed tag. I agree with that, so I thought about working on the whole page actually to make it better. Should I work on that in a sandbox first?
As this is a part of my school assignment, I started working on some other non-existing pages. One was declined, saying it needs more sources, would 2 sources work for such cases? E.g. Draft:Sanja_Musić_Milanović? Thanks for your help!
Lina.daccor (talk) 07:39, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Lina.daccor: No need to work in the sandbox first. The article clearly needs some work so if you are willing to put in time, I say go for it. Just be sure to use clear edit summaries for any major edits. Your original edit is still in the history so you can copy the content you added from there so you do not have to rewrite it.
- As for your article, generally 2-3 quality sources that provide in-depth coverage of the subject (at least couple solid paragraphs) should be sufficient. Thanks for the message and good luck with your assignment! S0091 (talk) 04:07, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Shinzan Miyamae Roshi
Hi there; I recently edited a wiki page about Shinzan Miyamae Roshi, as he recently passed away. You removed the edits, since I didn't include a citation - will this do? https://www.facebook.com/jikai.zenspace/posts/1155210871609080 It's from one of his main students. Thanks Ollie-Shinkai Ollie-Shinkai (talk) 08:40, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Ollie-Shinkai: Facebook is not a reliable source so should not be used (see also WP:SOCIALMEDIA). I have also searched but cannot find anything reliable reporting his death. S0091 (talk) 16:44, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Request for opinion and help
Can you respond to me on Aiyo's page. Thanks so much 2603:6000:A403:5800:119D:E1CB:C6BF:6A8F (talk) 02:55, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
- Responded. S0091 (talk) 22:15, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
- Superduper apologize on my lateness S00091. Forgive me. I am going to take you up on your sage advice to make an account and get the guidance of the talkpage. Hopefully, once I make the account, you or Aiyo can go about the sandpaper option (I know I am writing that wrong lol, but you get what I mean. I haven't regularly edited this website in years so sorry about my misnomers). Then hopefully the three of us can work on this together and you can redirect me if I am getting to fan-crazy in my editing style. Responded more in depth at Aiyo's page. I will write you back when I have a formal account either today or tomorrow. Thank you! :) 2603:6000:A403:5800:C9CE:49B1:B114:9C15 (talk) 20:56, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- No apology necessary! We all do this as a hobby so float in and out. I just wanted to make sure you saw it. Yeah, definitely drop me a note when get around to setting up an account (again). I suggest just posting a short note on your User page stating you had a couple accounts years ago, etc. just to cover the bases.:) S0091 (talk) 21:03, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hey S0098, just letting you know I created my account today and am ready to get things in motion. Wam to the bam bam. I'm going to post a message on the Judge Judy talkpage. JudgeJudyCourthouse25 (talk) 18:32, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
- No apology necessary! We all do this as a hobby so float in and out. I just wanted to make sure you saw it. Yeah, definitely drop me a note when get around to setting up an account (again). I suggest just posting a short note on your User page stating you had a couple accounts years ago, etc. just to cover the bases.:) S0091 (talk) 21:03, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- Superduper apologize on my lateness S00091. Forgive me. I am going to take you up on your sage advice to make an account and get the guidance of the talkpage. Hopefully, once I make the account, you or Aiyo can go about the sandpaper option (I know I am writing that wrong lol, but you get what I mean. I haven't regularly edited this website in years so sorry about my misnomers). Then hopefully the three of us can work on this together and you can redirect me if I am getting to fan-crazy in my editing style. Responded more in depth at Aiyo's page. I will write you back when I have a formal account either today or tomorrow. Thank you! :) 2603:6000:A403:5800:C9CE:49B1:B114:9C15 (talk) 20:56, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
Hey SOO91, great advice about the Wikipedia features and condiments if you will on my talk page. I don't think those existed during the time I used Wikipedia or if they did I was unaware of them, so definitely good and important to know. Thanks for your fun facts. Also, I have been diligently working on the gridded episodes for each season through Microsoft Word and would like to test out what I have for the opinions of you and Aiyo through a sandbox. I remember using a sandbox many moons ago to create a page or edit with another user, but haven't done that in ages and do not remember at all of how it works. Can either you or Aiyo start one please so I may show you what I have thus far? Thank you! JudgeJudyCourthouse25 (talk) 13:20, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Heya JJC25, the easiest way is just to use your userpage (located at User:JudgeJudyCourthouse25) or a dedicated subpage created with a forward slash (so User:JudgeJudyCourthouse25/sandbox). My sandbox is at User:Alyo/Sandbox and then I've actually even made subpages of that, e.g. User:Alyo/Sandbox/1971 Howard Bison men's soccer team. But the personal sandbox link I just gave you above will work fine. Paste the material in there, hit save, and then just make edits as though it's a normal article page. Once it's done, we can just move that page into the main space for articles and it'll save both the content and the edit history. Alyo (chat·edits) 14:20, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- Alyo, you are a rock star. One hundred billion thank yous for your wonderful help and direction with regards to all this. I've gotten really far on this in the last few weeks and am looking forward to your guys' input and needed revisions, so yay. I just want to add some touches before I add it to the sandbox. I've been using Microsoft Word. Stay tuned :) JudgeJudyCourthouse25 (talk) 22:44, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
S0091 and Alyo, I have completed Judge Judy (season 1) after putting it off for nearly 2 months. Not sure if either of you two are still interested in working on this project with me, but if so I could really use some help in getting a Judge Judy (season 2) article off the ground. lol! If no longer an interest of yours or you are busy, totally understand. I have been busy myself. lol! But as this took me a solid 3 hours, I think it's safe to say I could use some help.JudgeJudyCourthouse25 (talk) 16:59, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hey @JudgeJudyCourthouse25: take a look at Encyclopedia of Television Law Shows in Google Books (you can find it here and search for Judge Judy). There are some bits I think you can use and you might be able find more in Google Books but I think it will take some digging because the initial results are her books. S0091 (talk) 19:02, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi S0091, I hope you are well. Thanks for this response, but what is that source for? If you are indicating the need for a source for season 2 episodes, I already have found that. The same source I found for season 1 provides sourcing for all of season 2. When I mention the need for help, I am asking if you have the time and interest in starting the season 2 article from the source I have already found which is at that page. It's just a lot of work for me alone. Thank you! JudgeJudyCourthouse25 (talk) 19:57, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- JudgeJudyCourthouse25, sorry, I misunderstood but I actually suggest waiting until Season 1 is reviewed by WP:NPP, which may take a couple months, before putting a lot of time into Season 2. If Season 1 does not pass WP:GNG, then the reviewer has two options, WP:Draftify or sending it to WP:AFD for a deletion discussion. I am still concerned about not having enough in-depth coverage from sources specifically regarding Season 1. The sources seem to more about the show as whole with some mention about Season 1 which may not be enough to pass WP:GNG but I could be completely wrong. You might also try posting at note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television to get some input. S0091 (talk) 20:19, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Haha! No worries and I think that's a good idea, your suggestions. As you know more about this is kind of thing than I do and where it all needs to be reviewed, do you mind jumping on that ship. I wouldn't know the first thing about all that. If it passes inspection, could you help me with getting started on season 2 as well. Honestly, season 1 was more work than I thought and if I am all alone in the endeavor, I think it's just going to have to be season 1 for me. She has a thousand episodes per season. LOL! Thanks for all your help S0091. :) JudgeJudyCourthouse25 (talk) 20:52, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- JudgeJudyCourthouse25, full disclosure, I have actually never created an article so keep that in mind. I have just picked up on how things work around here through my normal course of business, which is generally cleaning up cruft. Also, while I record/watch JJ religiously, have one her books and an autographed photo of her, I'm, like, not a fan (I mean none that suggests I am, right? LOL!). Anyway, that does question my ability to neutrally write about the show. I think I can because I do believe in doing what is best for Wikipedia and I think it would be fun working with you. I will need to mull it over, though (I'm lazy too...so there's that as well). S0091 (talk) 21:15, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Oh and I think you did a great job writing Season 1. S0091 (talk) 21:25, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- S0091, you get "Wikipedia Comment of the Day" Award for that whole posting above. I just got an absolute field day reading your postings. I especially fell out at: full disclosure, I have never created in article/autographs, books; I'm, like, not a fan; question my ability to neutrally write about the show/I'm lazy... so there's that as well Golden! But wait a minute! Now thinking about it and when you put it that way, what in the blue hell am I doing contributing to her articles myself is what I'd like to know?! I have her books, a real life autograph, I haven't created a Wikipedia article since 2013, and as far as being lazy... I think I promised ya'll I would have season 1 done back at the beginning of the summer. LOL!!! But I'm taking the spotlight off of me. We'll just pretend like none of this is the case. HAHAHA! But anyways, you are pure gold. Thanks for your kind words and if your verdict is to create the article, just hit me up Judge S0091. It's your judgment call. LOL JudgeJudyCourthouse25 (talk) 01:16, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- Haha! No worries and I think that's a good idea, your suggestions. As you know more about this is kind of thing than I do and where it all needs to be reviewed, do you mind jumping on that ship. I wouldn't know the first thing about all that. If it passes inspection, could you help me with getting started on season 2 as well. Honestly, season 1 was more work than I thought and if I am all alone in the endeavor, I think it's just going to have to be season 1 for me. She has a thousand episodes per season. LOL! Thanks for all your help S0091. :) JudgeJudyCourthouse25 (talk) 20:52, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- JudgeJudyCourthouse25, sorry, I misunderstood but I actually suggest waiting until Season 1 is reviewed by WP:NPP, which may take a couple months, before putting a lot of time into Season 2. If Season 1 does not pass WP:GNG, then the reviewer has two options, WP:Draftify or sending it to WP:AFD for a deletion discussion. I am still concerned about not having enough in-depth coverage from sources specifically regarding Season 1. The sources seem to more about the show as whole with some mention about Season 1 which may not be enough to pass WP:GNG but I could be completely wrong. You might also try posting at note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television to get some input. S0091 (talk) 20:19, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi S0091, I hope you are well. Thanks for this response, but what is that source for? If you are indicating the need for a source for season 2 episodes, I already have found that. The same source I found for season 1 provides sourcing for all of season 2. When I mention the need for help, I am asking if you have the time and interest in starting the season 2 article from the source I have already found which is at that page. It's just a lot of work for me alone. Thank you! JudgeJudyCourthouse25 (talk) 19:57, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
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- Hi IP, I think you need to read WP:V and WP:OR as what you describe above is not accurate. Things like "the sky is blue" is common knowledge but a Hungarian expression is not, especially given this is the English Wikipedia. However, you are welcome to start a discussion on the article's talk page to gain consensus for your addition. S0091 (talk) 20:56, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
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hello. I’m curious as to why you removed Joe Musgrove’s siblings names?
- Hi IP, Wikipedia takes a stricter stance due to privacy as far publishing the names the non-notable relatives. You can read more at WP:BLPNAMES. You did not do anything 'wrong" but simply a policy of which you were unaware (how would you know??). S0091 (talk) 21:00, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
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Return
Hello Why did you return the article and delete the sources? This article is flawed and does not relate to the sources mentioned and discusses it many times while the articles written by the sources are said to exist if they exist. There is also a drawback that he explained at the beginning of a section, which he said the same thing again! In explaining a company should be checked with information Phacker1 (talk) 18:39, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
While this content was just a description and brokers review resources about it are enough. In the case of various parts of the company and the regulator, it is possible to inquire about the documents from the company's website itself, which was added to the source. Also, part of the description of the owner was transferred to another part to improve the writing, and the source was also transferred. Phacker1 (talk) 18:50, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Phacker1:, I am assuming this is about Alpari Group. If so, please see my edit summary. The sources used to substantiate the content you added/changed are largely not reliable. Please be aware Wikipedia does care what a company says about itself, information coming from them should not be used unless it is for basic uncontroversial facts (like location, CEO, etc.). What is needed are independent secondary sources that have editorial oversight and a history of fact checking. You might find WP:RSP helpful. While it is certainly not an exhaustive list of available sources, it does give you an idea of the types of sources that are considered reliable and unreliable. For example, Crunchbase is deemed unreliable because the content is user-generated. S0091 (talk) 19:28, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Well, yes, it is. The information that I added can also be seen about what services this company offers and the ways of paying for it, which is completely transparent, even by referring to it itself. The items that have been deleted are also mentioned in the lower sections The next case can be fully examined about the types of branches and regulations, because their types are explained in different websites, and it can also be obtained with a little research and inquiry. When I write about a company, there is no published article that we can use, but I can still use those sources based on the reviews done. I still try to find more approved sources. Thanks. Phacker1 (talk) 19:37, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Phacker1: The lead should simply summarize the most important information in the body of the article. Generally, if it is not covered in the body, it should not be mentioned in the lead. You can read more at MOS:LEAD. Also, ideally one should not need to do their own research and inquiry, thus the need to cite reliable sources. If there are no published reliable sources to support the content, then it should not be added. This includes reviews. For example, user reviews themselves cannot be used because they are inherently user-generated but if a secondary source writes about the user reviews, that can be used or if the review comes from a independent source (think NYT book reviews). Also, I have ask, do you have any affiliation with the company (employee, contractor, client, etc.)? S0091 (talk) 19:59, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
As for the lead, I know how to provide the initial explanation. There are some ambiguities about this article and its content that should have been removed, but the part I replaced was also provided on most websites. No, I have nothing to do with them. Of course, I do a lot of research on these types of companies. Phacker1 (talk) 21:08, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Phacker1:Thanks for the reply. It sounds like you are in the industry so you might give WP:Expert editors a read for some guidance (although it leans more towards academia some of it might resonate to you) . I suggest starting a discussion on the article's talk page outlining your concerns. Of course you will need to provide reliable sources, etc. Also, if you have not already, I do strongly suggest reading WP:NPOV and WP:RS, along with this guide on using talk pages (specifically WP:INDENT). S0091 (talk) 21:34, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Yeh Thanks and I use your advice. Good luck Phacker1 (talk) 11:17, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
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Hitro talk 09:45, 11 July 2021 (UTC)Kindly look into article Purvanchal Expressway
Hi, can you please have a look at article “Purvanchal Expressway”, an unexplained, repetitive sourced info removal is being done, I urged the user to take that to talk page, it has been more than three reverts, I also placed a three revert warning on his talk page, and again urged him to solve the issue by talk page discussion. It’s been so many times, he is continuing to remove the referenced data. Every now and then he is responding by removing the sourced info, without any explanation or discussion. I even asked him to refrain from making numerous reverts and engaging in edit war, wait for a consensus to be reached on talk page, even an experienced user 25Cents asked him for the same and pinged him on talk page, he reverted his edits too. I assume some kind of sockpuppetry. Can you please see into this? Thanks in advance. Shresthsingh71 (talk) 11:11, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
Changes to R. Alexandra Keith article
Thanks for incorporating my suggested edit on 7/11/21 to the page for R. Alexandra Keith. I noted quite a bit of content from the bio was then deleted, in the next two hours, via three rounds of edits by user JBchrch. It strikes me that the text was factual and straightforward, rather than promotional... i.e., the prior version described her as CEO of P&G's global "$12.89 billion" Beauty business, a fact that seems germane to her credibility on Wikipedia. Might you be able to help me understand why this text was cut, and whether it or any of the other cuts from 7/11 can be undone? I appreciate your help!
Phoenix Fernsby (talk) 21:20, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Phoenix Fernsby:, I have a good guess but I do not want to speak for JBchrch. I suggest posting the question on the article's talk page and WP:PING them there (@JBchrch pinging them here just so they are aware). In the interim, I suggest giving WP:ONUS and WP:WEIGHT a read. S0091 (talk) 21:49, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
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Thanks for your willingness to help with reviewing requested updates for List of Grinnell College alumni. I updated the citations to add ones that supported people's alumni status where missing. I left some citations that don't mention Grinnell College as support for notability/descriptions. Please let me know if I should do anything else. Sarah at Grinnell (talk) 20:05, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
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Ikanke Inemesit (talk) 03:35, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
Hip Hop Movement draft
Yes that you for you notice, I'm just trying to learn this process, I when all of the please on here looking for help, I don't know why those users saying promotion or what ever I'm just trying to put the Hip Hop Movement article back up, its been there for years with the help of other users making sure I did the article right so it pass review and it did years ago, then afert 5-6- years these users took it down and going so hard for no real reason other then what everyone is saying that i told and ask them to go see whats happening on my talk page and my article and everyone said the samething. I wrote those articles because I can really relate to what happen to this hip hop pioneer Ron "Bee Stinger" Savage, his story went worldwide there is nobody in hip hop that has not heard the allegations and the fact that yes indeed he coin the term Six Elements of the Hip Hop Movement thats why nobodt bothered the smale Pice in the lead in hip hop article and Hip Hop Music, I did to a new draft of Hip Hop Movement started it off totally diffrent and with only a few sentences that was no were near the old ine those same allies took it down without no vote no nothing 2 days after i started the new one ang going around asking everyone for help. let me fill you in so you know what the real deal is which is documented with timestamps:
I ask that you all be opened minded and go outside of Wikipedia for a minute and look at hip hop pioneer Ron "Bee-Stinger" Savage. I did an article called: Hip Hop Movement approx Sept - 0ctober 2016, on October 03, 2016, it was tagged for Speedy deletion nomination of Hip Hop Movement, I won the dispute and the article was placed in draft so I can work on it until the admin user who had the biggest issues felt it was ready to be published, boy did he give me a way to go, I was new to wiki at the time, the great thing is other users helped on the article so it would get approved and it was reviewed and went live. The Hip Hop Movement article has been approved surviving a Speedy deletion nomination and has been on wikipedia since 2016. On July 7 & 8, 2021 Ron "Bee-Stinger" Savage appeared in a film with over 685,000 views called Zulu Nation The Frist Gay Family of Hip Hop. (In 2016 Ronald Savage alleges in the daily news and on the internet that at 15 years old he was molested by the Godfather of hip hop Afrika Bambaataa that hit worldwide.) Ronald Savage spoke in this film about his alleged allegations that he has not spoken about in years. On July 17, 2021 User Piotr Jr goes and deletes the 100% fact that Ronald Savage coin the six elements of the hip hop movement – out of the Hip Hop article and with no reason given other than it does not belong in the lead then goes over to Hip Hop Movement article and puts it up for Speedy deletion nomination, then goes over to Ronald Savage article and deletes out of the article that Ron helped pass the Childs Victims Act in NYS and claims it’s not in the NY Daily News (refs) and removes all recordings that Ronald Made and says Amazon doesn’t count, all this just 9 days after this documentary comes out and is the talk of hip hop. On July 24th, 2021 is went I noticed everything on wiki, and that same day I frantically tried to save the hip hop movement page, even offered users to help edit the article and getting BLOCKED by Piotr associates after wondering why he told user Robjwev don’t put the 6 elements of the Hip Hop Movement back into hip hop when he undid what Piotr did. I restated a new draft hip hop movement page Approx Aug 4, 21 that had nothing close to the old article with a new aim. With ¼ of a paragraph done on Aug 6, 21 user Bbb23 placed Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Hip Hop Movement, I contest the nomination, and with no discussion on the matter at all on Aug 7, 21 JBW just deled the article out of nowhere. Today then you pasted welcome your contributions, with a tag Managing a conflict of interest. It was like a call from God. Please can we make sure they don't try to take this other new one down while we are building it, and also I wanted to put the Six Elements Of Hip Hop Movement back in the lead at the bottlem of the hip hop article and also back in hip hop movement with public enemy trust they know it was there, this just seems very strangest this is why I wanted to bring it up to Wiki. The timeline and everything, this article being taken down has nothing to do with refs or promotion what every that means because if that was the case wiki is promotion for all these artist and companties which i'm nither or. Street sting (talk) 20:19, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
Barangay Buntay Dagami, Leyte
I just want to say that I am a resident of this barrio, and in fact, it was me who first upload this article way back 2007 when I was in my college because it is on one of my project in one of our subject. we lack records as to the origin of our barangay, and we only rely on the knowledge of the elderly in our place.. yet you tell me that wikipedia or any verifiability of wikipedia cannot find any reliable source of it .. well, yes you cannot because even us in our place, we cannot, that is why we rely in the elderly of our place.. and i did post such record in wikipedia, hoping that many of the future Buntayanons will be able to see that.. yet you edited it as if you know our place... kindly return back the main thought of our record because you edited it in a way that it goes far beyond what was told to us here. again, i am a resident of this place and my parents and forefathers are native of this place, so i presume that i know better than you. Harith vale (talk) 23:42, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Harith vale:, I understand and sympathize with what you are saying but original research is not allowed on Wikipedia. What is required here is verifiability, meaning I personally should not need to know your place in order write a Wikipedia article about it. Anyone, anywhere in this world, should be able to gather sources in order to construct a Wikipedia article about a particular subject. What you know to be true is not relevant unless a published reliable sources have chosen to write about it. I know that puts limitations on what can be presented here, such as oral histories, but that is the consensus among the editing community. I hope this makes sense and does not come across as being dismissive. I do appreciate you expressing your concerns. S0091 (talk) 00:02, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
OMG
i think i am wrong that i posted such information in wikipedia.. even the true owner is not accepted..
well anyways, i must tell our people here not to believe what is posted in this article about Buntay because it is not what it is and was edited by someone who is not knowledgeable with our place.
i was really wrong posting that information
well anyways, thank you for your response .. you may dismiss me of you want... you may delete also that article of buntay as well if you want.. because it is not what it is in our place.. [[User:Harith vale|] (talk) 00:18, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Harith vale:I think this is a misunderstanding about Wikipedia. I am not sure if you have taken the time to read the information I left on your talk page, but if not, I strongly suggest you do (along with the blue links in my response to you above). There is no owner of any article here. It is a collaborative crowd sourced effort. If you do not agree with Wikipedia's policies, you are welcome to propose changes but I do recommend gaining an understanding about Wikipedia and why the policies exist first. S0091 (talk) 00:30, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
sir/maam
i am aware of that policies.... that is why i only edit the article of buntay because though it is not "solely my own", though it was me who posted it.... i edit it because i am aware that whoever can edit that.. and that is the reason why i edit it back for "us" in our place to read it and to the world to know about us
i edit it it because i want to update it and to correct it from the main source here.. and not everywhere.. i am contributing our source here because you cannot find it anywhere...
i edit it because i want it to be what it is in our place, the fact in our place..
the way you edit it is not what it is in our place sir/maam
now if someone from our place will read that, what will they say because of the way you edit it
you cannot find any printed copy or reliable online copy of our history here.. because if there is one, aside from this article i posted on 2007, i will not bothering posting... i feel disappointed because you edit it with your own ideas only... you don't have any reliable source as well, yet edit it so much that it goes far from what the fact in our place Harith vale (talk) 00:56, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Harith vale: Simply put, if there are no published sources to support the content then the content should not be on Wikipedia. That is policy; not me just making shit up just because. As I said before, if you disagree with Wikipedia's policies, then you are more than welcome to propose changes (I suggest starting with WP:V). They actually do change if there is consensus from the community. S0091 (talk) 01:11, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
you edit my edition,
what was your source?
where is your verifiable source to edit also? Harith vale (talk) 01:15, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
lol
i am from this place.... i personally talked to our elderly and authorities here.. not like you, you rely solely on what is on the web.
i did post that article before hoping that through it, atleast our place will be known.
common... Harith vale (talk) 04:47, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
your edition is not helpful so far as to the true user is concern.when i say true user, i mean to the people in our place.. and it is the fact as to the facts in our place where this article or post came from
now my question is, on what source did you get to edit this article? Harith vale (talk) 01:18, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- Read WP:PROVEIT. It is the burden of the editor who added the content to cite published sources; otherwise it can be removed. Technically speaking, I could have removed all the content because no sources are cited (or nominated it for deletion) but I firmly believe (even without sources) this place does exists and should be part of Wikipedia (despite policies) so I trimmed it to removed what was clearly original research to get it down to what seemed to be more straight forward factual information that could possibly be sourced. You seem to want to argue about all this which really is not the best route to take. If you believe my actions are wrong, the you can pursue dispute resolution but just be aware the request will be to provide published sources. S0091 (talk) 01:36, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
omg Harith vale (talk) 04:50, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
that is the problem sir/maam
since there is no irrefutable other online data with regards to this Buntay history article, then you can do whatever you like... i know it is on the policy
however, i am telling you this.... because i know this article, then it is not what it seems to be in our place . and so therefore, from this view, how can we trust the other posts in wikipedia?
it is the policies i know, that anyone can edit..
however on my part, i never edited in wikipedia which i know nothing about.
unlike you, you just turn around the policies and told me that what i know is irrelevant... common sir/maam... you are most welcome to visit our place and bring your policies, and we will tell you here that your edit is not as what it is in here..
what will happen to our future reader here if they read your edition? they will perhaps believe you because it is posted here online... however, the real truth in our place is not what you edited...
come to think of it sir/maam editor Harith vale (talk) 01:28, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a reliable source so no one should trust anything written on Wikipedia (see WP:CIRC). Readers should evaluate the sources for themselves but those sources must first exist. Thus our issue here. Honestly, what I find most frustrating about this discussion is your declaration that you know Wikipedia's policies when it is abundantly clear you do not. At this point, you are just hounding me over things that are not about me. If you have any further questions or issues, please ask at the Teahouse. I am personally done here (on my talk page) but I would like to reserve the right to come visit Buntay because I am sure it is a very special place with spectacular people. S0091 (talk) 01:47, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
thank you for that eye opening statement that wikipedia is not a reliable source .. it really helps a lot and it makes sense to us now... Harith vale (talk) 04:48, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Harith vale: Oh good! You know, what you could do is add a map and/or perhaps provide a a photo. Thanks for the note. :) S0091 (talk) 20:11, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
well, i reserved the rights to do that...
since anyone can edit and twist whatever posted here, our barangay secretary told me to open a page on face book and there we will posts our article.. i have told our barangay people especially our students who rely on online search this time about this encounter with you and the Buntay article. i showed them your responses about wikipedia
thanks anyways for telling us about wikipedia.
i will not be bothering posting anymore in this site Harith vale (talk) 22:05, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Harith vale: I think having your own platform for documenting Buntay in the manner you and the other people of Buntay see fit is great idea and glad to hear that is being pursued along with letting students know Wikipedia is not a reliable source. If they do use Wikipedia, they should evaluate the sources independently to come to their own conclusions which is a fantastic exercise for critical thinking and independent thought. Truly, Wikipedia in and of itself should not be used a source which Wikipedia itself states. As far as using online sources in general, as long as the source has editorial oversight, a history of fact checking, being peer-reviewed (this more pertains to academic sources), etc. they should be fine using those (none of which Wikipedia has on the whole). S0091 (talk) 23:07, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
Hello, just got your message about my page being denied and marked for speedy deletion. I was under the assumption that this was a draft page because it was in my sandbox and from what I had (mis)understood from another article on draft pages. This was not meant for the final page. I am going to read up on this more and try again, but the reasons for deletion do help me in the creation of the next draft. Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks. JayMrslangs (talk) 20:29, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Mrslangs: you are not wrong in your understanding about sandbox or draft pages but there is certain content that does not belong on Wikipedia no matter what "space" it is in. Copyright violations (a legal issue for both Wikipedia and the editor that adds the content) and promotional content is among them. My first tip is to summarize what reliable sources have written in your own words. Also, Wikipedia does not care what a subject has to say about itself so sources stemming from them or their affilates (such as their website, press releases, etc.) should be avoided. What is needed is significant coverage from independent reliable sources in order to meet Wikipedia's notability criteria. You may find WP:42 and Your first article helpful (along with the other blue links in this response). Another tip is when is you do submit your proposed article for review, explicitly state which notability criteria it meets. Also, if you are affiliated with the subject you need to follow Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines. If you have questions or need help, you can ask at the Teahouse. Thanks for the note and asking questions! S0091 (talk) 21:13, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
question on my edit
Hi how do I add the title draft back? Sorry I thought that would automatically go back on it. Change352 (talk) 22:15, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Change352: for templates is two "curly" brackets, like {{draft}}. If you are linking internally to a Wikipedia page or article it is two "straight" brackets, so [[Gangsta rap]] renders as Gangsta rap. Thanks for asking! S0091 (talk) 22:19, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
answer to your question I just read
Hi yes I know her. You can delete my post and account as I didn't know the rules of this. Why would anyone write an article if they are not affiliated with the person or organization? I bet most of them on there are, but oh well. Those are your rules. I asked a friend to help with the draft since I was unable to get it done last year. It is not a big deal and I will not try to contribute anything in the future. I was trying to help get her info on the site because she has limited information online. But thanks anyway. Just delete it and delete my account. Thanks.Change352 (talk) 00:15, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Change352:The reason people write articles is because they find the subject is noteworthy enough to warrant inclusion in an encyclopedia (Wikipedia is an encyclopedia after all). I mean, think about your statement for a minute. Based on your viewpoint, why would someone write about Benjamin Franklin? Aside from that, Wikipedia is not the place to start an online presence. Wikipedia is backward looking, rather than forward looking (see WP:WPNOT), meaning significant coverage from reliable sources must already exist. Yours is a common misunderstanding, which is fine (no knock on you personally). Accounts cannot be deleted, you can simply stop editing or you can request vanish. The draft will be deleted when it has not been edited for six months. S0091 (talk) 00:44, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
- It might to help to know that both Facebook and Twitter were decline/deleted more than once because at the time they were not deemed notable in their earlier days. See also WP:TOOSOON. S0091 (talk) 00:48, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
OK thanks Change352 (talk) 01:30, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I'm Himu and i read your reply on my talkpage
Yes, I love editing although I'm new, I dont know how to talk here any help on how to do so is welcomed! I did edited some stuff like James Bay chaos and the calm deluxe edition all songs were missing from disc 2, i added them here I umm changed Ed Sheeran's Thinking Out Loud to Thinking out Loud and also fixed ed sheeran divide album bugs as in songwriting credits of one of his songs was Joseph Addison, people incuding even me got confused it with english essayist after digging a bit i found out Killbeatz is the songwriter and his full name is joseph kwame addison so i changed it to Killbeatz there
I dont know if i was supposed to say it all here, or it even counts as minor edits but thank you:) That's it all i wanted to say!HimuEdits (talk) 10:12, 16 August 2021 (UTC)HimuEdits
Your edit on Ed Sheeran's single Thinking Out Loud
I noticed you reverted the page back to a previous version, may I ask what exactly did it changed? Also, I changed Thinking Out Loud to Thinking out Loud as out isn't capitalized in song titles as it's incorrect according to my knowledge. Maybe we could discuss it together and find a way? Thank you and waiting for your reply! HimuEdits (talk) 17:06, 16 August 2021 (UTC)HimuEdits
- @HimuEdits: dawnseeker2000 was the editor that reverted the article back to a previous version. However, I suggest starting a discussion on the article's talk page so other editors can participate. S0091 (talk) 15:47, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
Thank you
Many thanks, SOO91, for your kind message.
Best regards, Emilydust (talk) 16:11, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Follow-up re R. Alexandra Keith article
Hi again, S0091 - thanks for your feedback about the R. Alexandra Keith bio. Might you be able to check the bio's talk page, for the edit that I requested on 7/27/21? I'm not sure it's actually in the queue for review, as normally, there's a notice regarding number of requests ahead of mine, and I am not seeing that, this time. I appreciate your help!
Phoenix Fernsby (talk) 00:46, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Phoenix Fernsby: you forgot to add the {{request edit}} template so I have added for you. Another trick is to add {{reftalk}} underneath your citations which will keep the references within the relevant section, in a tidy box, rather than the bottom of the page. S0091 (talk) 15:54, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @S0091: thanks a million for the helpful information! Sure thought I dropped that template in. Grateful to keep learning!
Phoenix Fernsby (talk) 23:26, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
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Thank you I’m interested in learning how to edit and handle my account correctly I seen what you layed out for me to read I will start there I have a lot of questions to ask if possible is there any time that best to contact you . I live near Philadelphia And I only speak English
Medium off-site
Perhaps you and I should exchange numbers and e-mails. We can back each other up if we think the other is being "harassed." lol! You can show up to my rescue and it can look like you came out of nowhere. lol! I have been here at Wikipedia for some 20 years and it's the oldest trick in the book. Lol! But seriously, we might consider that, us Judge Judy fans and all, me as your byrd to my Judge Judy and you as my byrd to your Judge Judy. LOL! Eh? Eh? Hmmm! JudgeJudyCourthouse25 (talk) 00:14, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
By the way, thanks for the message on my page. :) Appreciated your input. JudgeJudyCourthouse25 (talk) 00:15, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
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I’m back 24.101.54.11 (talk) 18:12, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
I have a lot to say today . Someone has eaten from my fruit tree with out saying thanks . I’m trying to find out if he let himself in and broke one of my things . I’m hoping the good people @ the fing could set it straight. What I noticed is funny comments and encouraging . I believe in good faith . 24.101.54.11. (talk) 5 , September 2021 (UTC) 24.101.54.11 (talk) 18:29, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
Thanks on Ephemerisle
Thank for cleaning up the references on the Draft:Ephemerisle.
I'm a bit unclear on exactly how much work I should put into the draft of a new article before there's any indication whether or not it'll end up being accepted.
Cheers, -- Bob drobbs (talk) 00:10, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Bob drobbs: Eh...I would just leave it be for now and see what happens. I think at the very least it is "on the fence". S0091 (talk) 00:26, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- Pay attention to what @Schazjmd: is doing as it will be helpful to you (and me) in the future. S0091 (talk) 00:32, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- Wow, that's the nicest ping I've ever received. Schazjmd (talk) 00:35, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- Wax on, wax off. S0091 (talk) 00:49, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- Wow, that's the nicest ping I've ever received. Schazjmd (talk) 00:35, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- Bob drobbs, I've looked over the refs in the draft, and I think it has solid coverage for notability. I removed one source that isn't really reliable but replaced it with another. What you could do to improve the article's chances is to go through the sources and connect them inline with the text they support, as I did with two of the sources. I have to log off but I'll take another look at it tomorrow. Good luck! Schazjmd (talk) 00:56, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- Pay attention to what @Schazjmd: is doing as it will be helpful to you (and me) in the future. S0091 (talk) 00:32, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
bankset
-- hello, Spiegel is europes largest publication magazine and most respected investigative journalism, and known to cover only independently with reliable sources. no one can have a better source than spiegel there is no press release please look again other wise the encyclopedia is missing notable and outstanding patents and discoveries and inventions and only made for CNN. you want a coverage from CNN --Lichtsun (talk) 08:49, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
Der Spiegel is known in German-speaking countries mostly for its investigative journalism. It has played a key role in uncovering many political scandals such as the Spiegel scandal in 1962 and the Flick affair in the 1980s. According to The Economist, Der Spiegel is one of continental Europe's most influential magazines.[7] its like the washington post in europe and only talks big business and investigative journalism the best of the best reference one can get in the world. thanks for your understanding . your from the USA or Israel or where are you from , you must know der Spiegel ? its the best magazine in the world and largest circulation in europe its super notable to have a full page in this publication never happens with press releases your wrong please look again. thanks i dont belive that this company is interested in mass media
campains but only science and technology and patents for real inovations.
source wikipedia itself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Spiegel
Der Spiegel has a distinctive reputation for revealing political misconduct and scandals. Online Encyclopædia Britannica emphasizes this quality of the magazine as follows: "The magazine is renowned for its aggressive, vigorous, and well-written exposés of government malpractice and scandals."[12] It merited recognition for this as early as 1950 when the federal parliament launched an inquiry into Spiegel's accusations that bribed members of parliament had promoted Bonn over Frankfurt as the seat of West Germany's government.
--Lichtsun (talk) 09:06, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Lichtsun: You have resubmitted the draft with your comments so another editor will review it which is the fair thing to do. On a side note, CNN is certainly is not known for its business coverage so would not be my personal "go to" source. I did just now check the Wall Street Journal though but was unable to find anything, Not that they the are end-all-be-all source but thought worth a shot. Thank you for the note. S0091 (talk) 15:20, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
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Awards for Jellyfish
How do i step up an Emmy list for Jellyfish Pictures. and what sources you want me to remove? I'm stressing out like hell and i don't understand what you guys want. BMA-Nation2020 (talk) 17:54, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @BMA-Nation2020: You do not need to set up a list or table but mention it in the article (a sentence or two about it). If you can find the sources from the Emmy, BAFTA, etc. websites that would be very helpful. As far as what to remove, I listed the "worst offenders" (Twitter, LinkedIn, their website) but also go back through your sources and remove anything that does not specifically mention Jellyfish. I came across a couple but do not remember which ones they were. No need to stress; there is no deadline. :) S0091 (talk) 18:03, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- I don't know which ones you want me to removed. There's so many of them! plus, i found one that has them won an emmy for Your Inner Fish but i'm not sure it's enough for your pleasing. BMA-Nation2020 (talk) 18:07, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- @BMA-Nation2020: You got most of them. I also removed the Instragram one so you will need a source to support that content but you likely have one already in the other sources. The last two sources (#17 and #18) do not mention Jellyfish so not sure why they are included. Yes, if you can find additional sources supporting the awards, add them. Also, it's not about "pleasing me". It is about meeting Wikipedia's criteria as established by the community. S0091 (talk) 18:29, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry. I get nervous if i don't get things right. i wanna show it to everyone since i liked Spirit Untamed and that the animation came from Jellyfish Picture so... BMA-Nation2020 (talk) 18:43, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- @BMA-Nation2020: You got most of them. I also removed the Instragram one so you will need a source to support that content but you likely have one already in the other sources. The last two sources (#17 and #18) do not mention Jellyfish so not sure why they are included. Yes, if you can find additional sources supporting the awards, add them. Also, it's not about "pleasing me". It is about meeting Wikipedia's criteria as established by the community. S0091 (talk) 18:29, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
- I don't know which ones you want me to removed. There's so many of them! plus, i found one that has them won an emmy for Your Inner Fish but i'm not sure it's enough for your pleasing. BMA-Nation2020 (talk) 18:07, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
Abdullah Sulaiman Al Rajhi
Hi I don't understand why you consider al rajhi bank as not a reliable source !! this bank has a high authority in the world of finance! also, I add more sources! like a journal article with a picture of the person that improves the reliability of the subject Ihabb88 (talk) 01:39, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Ihabb88: please read WP:RS. Sources need to have editorial oversight and a history of fact checking, which generally a bank does not (it is not a publisher, like a newspaper). In addition, they need to be independent from the subject, which clearly they cannot be because he is the chairman of the board. Please do follow and read all those blue link that have been provided to you. S0091 (talk) 01:49, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
@S0091: ok I publish more than one source! not only al rajhi but also argaam and meed and an article that spoke about abdullah's reward I think is enough ! Ihabb88 (talk) 18:30, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi. About Alex Yeung.
Alex Yeung is notable enough in Hong Kong, and he is the son of Dr. Albert Yeung, one of the famous businessman in Hong Kong. Alex Yeung seems to be the successor of his father's kingdom Emperor Group. A lot of exposures in Hong Kong Media of him make him sufficiently notable.
Hello @ S0091 regarding the rejected draft i first made research as provided under WP:RS and decided to create it following WP:1E given the fact that: (1) All links used are Reliable Sources (2) A quick google search about the individual mostly talks about her Investing Huge sums of Dollars, and Taking Akon to Uganda to Explorer Investment Opportunities (Very Many Reliable Links).
- The individual is also reliably reported as Akon's wife according to every single link about her, which makes her notability undisputed as per WP:1E; When She took Akon to Uganda, the government offered him big land for AKON CITY establishment as reported. This in my Opinion implies that without her, Akon could not have gone to Uganda for business so, basing on WP:1E, both: her own Uganda Investment Agenda and Akon's City building grow with her as a masterminding induvial, So there is no justification to put emphasis on those events (Investing in Uganda and Introducing the husband to the Uganda Government) and ignore the Creator of these events, In conclusion: The Individual is very notable for those widely reported events in the reliable and independent sources and as per WP:1E i do not see justification for writing about these events indecently, wright about the Individual making those events to happen and talk about the events under her article. Further more, without abandoning the WP:BEFORE besides being a wife to a prominent International Music Star Akon, She is reliably reported to have jointly managed a number of Prominent artists that include Jay Z, Usher, Mixmaster David, Karl Palmer of Star Kutt Records, Demarco, Lady Gaga,T-Pain among others together with Akon under her Zanar Entertainment company through KonLive/Universal and also co-produced a full feature film Chocolate City.
- AND NOT TO LEAVE OUT IS She has made business with Uganda's President Yoweri Museveni,who even Nicknamed her. It Is not that anybody can just meet and dialogue with a President. I therefore kindly request that you humbly review the article once more and make a decision basing on those above terms of use. Thank you Very Much. Kind Regards Hercot (Hercot :) 10:42, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- The individual is also reliably reported as Akon's wife according to every single link about her, which makes her notability undisputed as per WP:1E; When She took Akon to Uganda, the government offered him big land for AKON CITY establishment as reported. This in my Opinion implies that without her, Akon could not have gone to Uganda for business so, basing on WP:1E, both: her own Uganda Investment Agenda and Akon's City building grow with her as a masterminding induvial, So there is no justification to put emphasis on those events (Investing in Uganda and Introducing the husband to the Uganda Government) and ignore the Creator of these events, In conclusion: The Individual is very notable for those widely reported events in the reliable and independent sources and as per WP:1E i do not see justification for writing about these events indecently, wright about the Individual making those events to happen and talk about the events under her article. Further more, without abandoning the WP:BEFORE besides being a wife to a prominent International Music Star Akon, She is reliably reported to have jointly managed a number of Prominent artists that include Jay Z, Usher, Mixmaster David, Karl Palmer of Star Kutt Records, Demarco, Lady Gaga,T-Pain among others together with Akon under her Zanar Entertainment company through KonLive/Universal and also co-produced a full feature film Chocolate City.
- Also a mere fact that She is Akon's wife makes her notable. Hercot (Hercot :) 22:29, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Ppacot: Notability is not inherited so being Akon's wife or managing notable musicians do no in and of themselves make her notable. As for WP:IE, sources need to explicitly state her role was significant. What is, in your opinion, "implied" is synthesis, thus cannot be considered. Either way, you have resubmitted the draft so another editor will review it. S0091 (talk) 15:44, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
- Also a mere fact that She is Akon's wife makes her notable. Hercot (Hercot :) 22:29, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
rejection follow up
Hey Soo91, Hope you are having a nice weekend wherever you are. I received a rejection for you for my page submission, with the note: "Please do not resubmit until significant coverage about her from reliable sources can be provided. Current sources are just the announcement she is CEO."
I've been contributing to Wiki for a year or so now and would love to learn how these decisions are made. I would appreciate if you can teach me how to make more efficient and better cited pages.
For example, the now former CEO of Tinder, Jim Lanzone, has a page. On his page, it says "On July 27, 2020, Match Group announced that it had appointed Lanzone as the new CEO of Tinder.[21] On September 10, 2021, he was announced as the new CEO of Yahoo, after the company was sold by Verizon to Apollo Global Management.[22]"
In his page, citations [21] and [22] are equally announcements much like Mrs. Nyborg's. They are arguably from less reputable sources than the one's that I shared, The Hollywood Reporter and Variety respectively.
I guess my question(s) is/are if those citations are appropriate and sufficient for Mr. Lanzone's page, why would they not be for Mrs. Nyborg's? She is clearly listed on Tinder's press page leadership page with a further announcement from Tinder.
I'm just trying to learn on how I can improve moving forward - I would love to contribute more to Wiki, but I don't understand why the methodology of 'legitimate' citations doesn't seem to be equally applied across Wikipedia. Can you please help me?
-Fabriemo
- Hi @Fabriemo:, comparing to an existing article is tricky (see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS) but for Jim Lanzone, the article was created back in 2011 well before he became Tinder's CEO and Tinder is only very briefly mentioned in the article so is not what established his notability. Also note, there are several sources covering him, including a New York Times article and an entry in the Current biography yearbook. This may be a simple case of WP:TOOSOON for Nyborg, meaning she is likely to gain the coverage needed for an article in the future but they do not exist right now. In that case, leave the draft active and periodically update when coverage is available, then resubmit when enough coverage has been established. S0091 (talk) 20:17, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
I see if I am understanding correctly, the rejection is not about the citations for her work but actually a lack of citations for her as a person from legitimate sources. So the announcements are sufficient for providing evidence but she is not yet high profile enough in terms of internet sources... as loosely compared to Lanzone's page he has a cover page with the NYT and a mention in the Current biography yearbook both which help to establish his legitimacy. After that the citations are more credible effectively because people have already established who he is. Am I understanding correctly?
- (Note: don't forget to sign you messages with the 4 tildes ~~~~). It's both. There is not much anyone can say about her as CEO given she just took the role and there is not much about her as a person, yet. Jeff Bezos was Time's Person of the Year in 1999 (before Wikipedia existed) which clearly was tied to him being the founder/CEO of Amazon but what he was doing as CEO had significantly impacted ecommerce and disrupted the retail industry (still is). Now that is a extreme example but I hope that helps some. Also, to be clear, Nyborg is legitimate so this is not to be dismissive of her accomplishments but legitimate and Wikipedia's definition of notability are two different things. But yes, in the end once she has more significant coverage then the article can be appropriate sourced (and likely expanded). S0091 (talk) 21:09, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
- And I appreciate the questions! S0091 (talk) 21:10, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
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First, AFC should display a yellow rectangle that says that the draft has been submitted, and provides a link that says that the article exists. It is small, so you have to look for it, unless you use a category to find duplicates.
Second, the draft and the article are sometimes submitted by the same person, in order to prevent having the article moved into draft space.
Third, I have nominated the article for deletion.
- @Robert McClenon: thanks for the information. Much appreciated! S0091 (talk) 15:07, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
Feedback on Draft:Seifried_Estate_Winery
Thanks for the assistance on Draft:Seifried_Estate_Winery. I am trying to remove all Puffery as recommended. I have gone over it again. Any additional feedback or examples of puffery are appreciated.
- Hi @Kind kiwi: I made a couple changes (i.e. hours of operations generally do not belong in an encyclopedia) and I see you have resubmitted the draft so another editor will review it. If you are affiliated with the winery, you do need to disclose your conflict of in interest and follow the guidelines. S0091 (talk) 15:29, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
About Draft:Bidsquare submission references
Hello, I created a Bidsquare page recently which is rejected by you due to 'submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article' and comment is the NYT article is just a very brief mention of them along with other auction sites and the Forbes article is written by a "contributor" rather than staff, which is not a reliable source, see WP:FORBES. Significant coverage about them from quality sources is required.
Bidsquare is one of the reputed online auction platforms in the USA operating globally. I have added two reliable sources one is Nytimes and the other is Forbes but both references got rejected. Also, Bidsquare never sponsors and promotes the auction event on Nytimes or Forbes, the content present in both the platform is by the Auction Houses who promoted their auction event on Bidsquare.
So requesting you to consider references submitted and review the same.
Critics on Democratic schools article
Hey S0091,
you criticized my article "Democratic schools". Your criticism was that there is already an article with the same name. However, that is a listing of Democratic schools. So it is a completely different article. Regarding the criticism that my article is an essay, I have tried to optimize the article with the user David notMD, here. If this is not enough for you, can you please tell me more concretely what exactly about the article reminds you of an essay?
Thank you, --Altiflash (talk) 18:13, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Altiflash: Apologies for the confusion! I see in the first section of the feedback I linked List of democratic schools but in my comment I linked Democratic education. I must have had both articles up and copy/pasted the incorrect one. I meant Democratic education. I see it has been rejected again for the reason I intended. I also see you tried to start a discussion on the Democratic education talk page but no other editors participated. You could start a Request for comment and advertise it at the appropriate WikiProjects, WikiProject Education and WikiProject Politics, along with Village pump. If you need help, you can ask at the Teahouse. S0091 (talk) 15:58, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
Avoca Park submission
Hello, I believe I have added citations that you suggested my article required. I am very new and appreciate your help and insight. Avoca Park Please review and advise. I thank you in advance. Moonoverzion (talk) 22:00, 27 September 2021 (UTC)MoonoverzionMoonoverzion (talk) 22:00, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
Hello,
I have added citations as you stated it needed and resubmitted.
Please review and let me know if I need to do anything else to improve the article.
Thank youMoonoverzion (talk) 16:00, 28 September 2021 (UTC)moonoverzionMoonoverzion (talk) 16:00, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
Fernando Gonalez
Hello, I am Fernando 22, the page about Fernando Gonzalez is not an autobiography, it is a biography of my dad. I made the page because I think that he has made great archievements that should be recognized. He also has plenty of people in Venezuela that are interested on learning about him and i thought a wiki page would be a good way to show them, sorry if i made a mistake, i am new here.Fernando Gonzalez22 (talk) 01:52, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Fernando, and welcome to Wikipedia. As far as the article you have written, it does not appear to pass our notability standards. Please read WP:BIO for more information. If your father does pass the guidelines, and you have multiple third party reliable sources to verify this, then please be sure to add them as references to the article to assist in it being accepted. Good luck, and happy editing! - Adolphus79 (talk) 02:10, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
Resubmission for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lisa_Alvarado_(Comedian)#Career
Hello S0091
You wanted me to adhere to the entertainer guideline and find more notable citations, I believe? So I add citations from the The Salt Lake Tribune and the New York times. And flesh out the article to show that Lisa Alvarado "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions" She has been on NBC, Nickelodeon, Comics Unleashed with Byron Allen, and Nuovo TV. There are a lot more listed on her IMDB but I did my best to link to direct shows and sources. Still working on that but I think there is enough to show this point. In november she will have an appearance on HBOMAX but I am not sure I should mention that until it happens?
She has had a few TV interviews that I tried to include.
I also add a more significant section that shows she Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment. There is an ABC News story that went to various affiliations nationwide about the documentary she did on Michael Schmid.
A did add a youtube link to show her start on Last Comic Standing. Since its a 2003 show, there is no place to watch the rest of her work on that show without getting it from NBC and at this point I am not sure if its necessary? Let me know what you think? Still need to figure out how to add allowable images.
I am re-submitting because I believe that is what you suggested. If you need anything more I would love to know. Thank you for your consideration and assistance!
Sarah LaSpisa --Sarah LaSpsa (talk) 20:38, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Sarah LaSpsa: have her roles on those shows been "significant", meaning starring, lead support, recurring, etc.? As for sources, what is needed is significant coverage, independent of her so interviews generally are not helpful for establishing notability (if most of the content is coming from her, then it is not independent). For example, the NYT article has about one paragraph of coverage about her which is not quite enough in of itself (the focus was really on Nicholas). The Tribune is also scant once you discount anything she said or is attributed to a statement from her. Its tricky. I might do some digging myself (I personally think highly of comedians). S0091 (talk) 21:17, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
Thank you! I see that you have made some corrections and suggestions. I will continue to do the research and try to supply the reference you suggested to improve the article. I am trying to fix the disambiguation with Lisa Alvarado the artist. Best to you- Sarah--Sarah LaSpsa (talk) 05:26, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
Help on verified sources.
Hello, I need help finding sources that have information on Mz Boom Bap, I have talked to Mz Boom Bap directly and provided me with the information in my draft, I am new to Wikipedia editing, as this is my first article, I'm not sure why Mz Boom Bap himself isn't a source. He is very happy and excited about me working on this and I hate to disappoint him by not having it accepted. If I can't find any independent sources, is it impossible for my article to be accepted?
Thank you for taking the time to review my draft. Sodapoppers (talk) 01:48, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Sodapoppers: one of Wikipedia's core policies is verifiability; therefore, Original research is not allowed so what he says is not usable. What is needed are published reliable sources to support any claims made. Above and beyond that, to be notable by Wikipedia's definition, significant coverage is required. If those do not exist, then a Wikipedia article will not be accepted. S0091 (talk) 01:59, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
Struum Submission Decline
Hi S0091, I saw your decline of the Struum submission. This topic did receive a lot of coverage from seven independent sources, do you have any advice in terms of additional news articles that it would need to be approved? Let me know! KhariMotayne (talk) 15:36, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @KhariMotayne: the sources provided are essentially press releases which do not confer notability. What is needed is in-depth coverage independent of what Struum has to say about itself. Generally startups do not have this type of coverage because there is not much research/analysis that can be completed thus my note about WP:TOOSOON. S0091 (talk) 16:03, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
Myself and other items about bufferbloat.net
Thx for the rapid review, edits, and kicking back the page about myself for better sourcing. On submitting myself... I didn't want to edit what had lain in draft for so long, but it seemed close, so I submitted. I agree learning how to edit wikipedia better first would be a good idea. I have 3 problems:
1) Is an article on lwn.net not considered definitive? (it is the premier linux
site) - some of the best articles about bufferbloat came from lwn.
2) My overall intent was to start moving over some well understood content over from bufferbloat.net to wikipedia. This includes updating the codel article, generating an fq_codel article (The default qdisc now in billions of boxes), cake (which got kicked back for a copyright reason I'll try to resolve), some edits to the packet scheduling article and the AQM article, something more detailed about what the DRR++ "flow queuing" in rfc8290, smart queue management (SQM), and "BQL".
The thing is, me and my site are the reference authorities for a lot of this stuff in the first place, and while I can find secondary sources like the ietf drafts and published papers in journals, the vast, vast bulk of the work was done on ietf or bufferbloat.net mailing lists and in code in the Linux and BSD kernels.
Can I point to a mailing list?
3) I can cite a thousand+ more papers on bufferbloat-related topics (see google scholar for the subject) but was unable to figure out how to cite things properly - although I did just now figure out how to cite rfcs properly.
The problem here is that I am one of the main experts here, and since jim gettys retired, nobody in the effort has been willing to edit wikipedia.
Anyway, I think I will start a page on BQL or Flow Queuing and learn more about how wikipedia works!!! and merely an answer to whether or not lwn is a definitive source, per item 1 above, would help. Thx for taking a peek.
Dtaht (talk) 00:38, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Dtaht: I need to call in some techies, @Primefac and Enterprisey:, your input would be helpful. The specific draft is Draft:Dave Taht but I think Dave's questions go beyond that. S0091 (talk) 00:57, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
I just tried to update the codel article with what I thought the correct syntax was... trying it again here, and failing.
{{cite IETF |title = Controlled Delay Active Queue Management|rfc = 8289 |last1 = Nichols|first1 = K. |author-link1 = Kathleen Nichols |last2 = Jacobson |first2 = V. |author-link2 = Van Jacobson |last3 = McGregor |first3 = A. |last4 = Iyengar |first4 = J. |date = Jan 2018 |publisher = [[Internet Engineering Task Force | IETF]}}
Dtaht (talk) 01:50, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
- Your code doesn't work because you never closed the
[[Internet Engineering Task Force | IETF]
wikilink. Primefac (talk) 12:33, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
Skifa Kahla
I have been working on my draft on this building in Tunisia, I added several sources from Arabic newspapers, I could not find many sources in French, I also added a reference to Google Books, I removed the tourist guide and added more information, the draft is ok? do I have to work on something else? add more references?-Seb { 💬 Talk + 📝 Edits } 17:41, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
- @JSeb05: Good job! I noticed some variations in what it is called, such as "the Kahla shed" so you should mention those in the article as well and create redirects for various plausible search terms. S0091 (talk) 18:26, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
Request on 00:16:05, 7 October 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Ljunkins
- Ljunkins (talk · contribs)
- Draft:Tennessee Genealogical Society ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
I have been working on the article about Tennessee Genealogy Society. I understand why I needed to remove citations from the TNGS website. I am an unpaid volunteer with the society. I do not understand how that is a conflict of interest. Are you saying only someone who is not a member of the society can submit an article?Ljunkins (talk) 00:16, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
Ljunkins (talk) 00:16, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hi @Ljunkins:, I take you have not read the guidelines yet. You can submit an article through AfC but even a volunteer has at least a COI. If you are an intern, then that counts as paid. The other issue is that it appears you are citing yourself or someone else associated with the organization. Those publications are not independent. What is needed are multiple independent reliable sources that have covered the organization in-depth. If those do not exist, then an article is not possible. Thanks for the question! S0091 (talk) 00:30, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
Bali Balm Edited Source
Hello S0091,
You have recently reviewed and commented on the article I created Bali Balm Draft. I can understand and completely appreciate the comments that you made. I am just wondering whether you offer some sort of consulting service?? in which you could help and advise me on how to improve my article so that It can be successfully published onto Wikipedia.
I am fairly new to Wikipedia and It would be a great sense of achievement if I could get my first page published and then continue to contribute to the Wikipedia platform.
Would greatly appreciate your help/tips and it would be great to learn from you, I look forward to hearing back from you.
Thank you--The-info-guide (talk) 15:46, 8 October 2021 (UTC)