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I brought this up at wp:ani but it's not that relevant. (Fine details of sort are important, but not my main point, I think we can live with any alphabetical ordering - especially when cat contents tend to group similar items anyway..). The issue is that your bot (and others?) appears to be acting only on recent or new pages (based on experience). It would be reassuring to know that this bot or another bot is applying the changes systematically starting at Aardvark and working up to Xylophone.. Does the bot do that ?, and if not can there be one please (I think I explained why at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Minor_technical_question). Just mark this section "done" if the issue is definitely already addressed, and a solution exists and has been implemented. Thanks.Sf5xeplus (talk) 16:21, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
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Back in July you were a model of efficiency using AWB to strip out {{Italic title}}. Just curious - not to seem demanding, I hope - would your technical abilities and/or old-school industry be sufficient to the job of restoring those templates where removed, in the wake of this discussion? Wareh (talk) 01:59, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
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Railway
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Hi, did you correct those Burmese infobox errors afterwards? Can you move all of the Gare de... in Category:Railway stations in France categories to ...... railway station. There is consensus to do so at WP:Trains. They should be in english.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:34, 6 October 2010 (UTC) E.g Gare de Colmar should be Colmar railway station.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:35, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
![]() OK Gare de, Gare du and Gare d' I take it are fine to move, how about:
? Rich Farmbrough, 13:08, 6 October 2010 (UTC). Mmm I'd go with:
List here. Rich Farmbrough, 17:57, 6 October 2010 (UTC).
Will try to get back to this today or tomorrow. Rich Farmbrough, 11:52, 8 October 2010 (UTC). MoreAnyway far be it for me to stand in the way of progress - if the station name is simply "gare de xxx" then I don't object to "xxx station" etc. I'm not sure about the ones with "maritime" in. However you did get the capitalisation wrong, its railway station (lower case) eg King's Cross station. (ok so some USA stations use Railroad Station with caps, but that's for another day). Sf5xeplus (talk) 18:51, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
There seemed to be no objection to moving the pages to lower casing e.g Rouen railway station. These really should be moved as Gare means nothing to most non French speakers. I personally prefer the Railway Station capitalised but consensus at WP:Trains seems to be lower casing. "railway" station is necessary as "station could refer to bus station, tram/cable car station or even a scientific research station.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:41, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
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Printworthy
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It occurs to me that any redirect that is categorised (Wikipedia:Categorizing redirects) excluding those which only have categories which are subcats of Category:Wikipedia redirects should always be printworthy redirects (Template:R printworthy).. Any chance of a bot for that?? Sf5xeplus (talk) 14:05, 9 October 2010 (UTC):
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SmackBot duplicate tags feature request
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Sorry if this is not the place to leave this, but this is mostly a feature request I think. In this diff, it would be nice if SmackBot would notice that there are duplicate tags and remove the duplicated tags. Would this be easy to implement? Devourer09 (t·c) 16:25, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
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Minor issues
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DNB
I've left a comment at WT:WP DNB#Bot_building about the new Magnus Manske tool in the area (Magnus put it together in a couple of hours after the meetup). I've never been exactly sure about the merits of importing text from Wikisource other than in an article: but I think the merits would be improved by a number of possible "added value" steps. One of those would be to take into account the output of this tool, and only import articles for the project to work on which come up as "none found" with that matching tool. I.e. remove or sort according to what the tool finds, which can be (a) no match, (b) very plausible match, (c) inconclusive run with numerous candidates none of which is a great fit, (d) > 50 hits. There is actually a good argument for first doing that sorting into four. The case (d) is one either for human intervention, or for another layer of matching attempt. Case (b) is the sort of stuff I'm going by hand, and invites work expanding stubs and adding the ext lk back. So anyway case (a) is the most fruitful at this point for an import.
And what else? Imported text should be topped-and-tailed in some way to make it more useful (will need a lead section, should finish with reference using {{cite DNB}} and attribution using {{DNB}}, both filled in with wstitle=[name as on WS, no suffix]). There is actually a lot of scope for stripping out parts of the article too: certainly the [references at end in small] sections, and with more intelligence much of the inline refs between parentheses. NB the use of small caps within parentheses for author names, which should be a clue.
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Risk list bot
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I would love to see the BLP risk list turned into an ongoing bot. We could manage it as an ongoing queue by having the bot keep all the previous hits with context in a local file or DB on the backend. For example:
After this hit, "riskbot" would keep this in a local file or db, and then would filter it out of subsequent runs, context included. That way if the affair gets added back in with slightly different context, we'd get another warning. It would take all the "new hits" and append them on the bottom of the running queue page. As people check the hits, they'd remove them from the page. It's O(n^2) on the number of hits, but scrubbing one set of lines with another is pretty inexpensive, since it's just simple equality. Let me know what you think. Gigs (talk) 01:13, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
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Bibliographies
This is just a personal opinion, mind you. Like I said, I am, rather slowly, assembling bibliographies of the various geographical areas of the earth. As they would deal with things like the local flora, fauna, people, culture, and the like, they could also serve as the basis for things like, for instance, Bibliography of South American military history, which would be a selection of books about the military history of that area drawn from the bibliographies of the main states/regions themselves.
That will not however include such things as the sciences, or philosophy, or the major religions, and certainly not off-world topics like astronomy. They would probably need to be created entirely separately.
My own basic choice would be to maybe have others create bibliographies for the sciences, business, and other topics that don't have clear geographic ties.
I would think the items to be included would best include separate books/works on the topic that have been reviewed by academic journals and other reputable specialist magazines, and/or included in books or articles of bibliography of that topic.
There are obviously questions regarding how long to make these bibliographies, and that's a separate matter entirely. The bibliography of physics, like the bibliography of Christianity, would be potentially endless. For such broad topics, maybe the best way to proceed would be to look at the various extant reference works, like encyclopedias, that deal with the topics, and to start include only those works which are included in the bibliographies of the articles in those encyclopedias. That would be a start, anyway. John Carter (talk) 17:15, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
- The bibliography of physics should probably include some well known wide ranging texts, Weidner and Sells, Richards, Wier, Zehrs and Zemansky I think are two, the vade meca of various fields, seminal works, and key references (Handbook of Physical Data?) and cross references to detailed, bibliographies of mechanics, relativity, gravitation, string theory, etc... Rich Farmbrough, 12:57, 9 November 2010 (UTC).
- Ask Fred, and Ed. Rich Farmbrough, 22:26, 19th day of January in the year 2011 (UTC).
- And DGG. Rich Farmbrough, 15:20, 20 February 2011 (UTC).
- And DGG. Rich Farmbrough, 15:20, 20 February 2011 (UTC).
IPA dump search
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Hey Rich, If you have the time, would you mind doing another search of the dump, as you did at User:Rich Farmbrough/temp14? I've run through that last list. (20 articles which I can't do on my own are all that's left.) A couple things different this time: no article exclusions (I will simply have AWB ignore anything within templates, unless you can pre-parse those at your end), plus a couple extra characters we missed last time. (If you can search for pure diacritics, that would be even better; otherwise I've noticed some more common combos, such as β̞ i̯ u̯ e̯ o̯, plus another character, ‹ˁ› that is commonly mistaken for IPA ‹ˤ›.) Thanks, — kwami (talk) 07:13, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
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Need to check on enzymes. Rich Farmbrough, 10:39, 18 November 2010 (UTC).
Burma
Hi. What's the chances of you being able to use your tools to help with dabbing for Burmese settlements. Check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Burma (Myanmar)/Township templates and User:Dr. Blofeld/Burma#Repeated places names...♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:57, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
What I'll do first is draw up all of the templates. Once that is done Abok should be linked inside two different township templates when currently it is just Abok and so. Most of them do not even have dab pages...Once I've drawn up the templates hopefully you will be able to read the what links here and run something... example:Ahlaw. Perhaps you have something which will be able to read the ... Township links and generate dab pages like Ahlaw with Ahlaw Paungbyin and Ahlaw, Tamu linked. Bets thought to wait until I've created all the templates so the links can easily be accessed in the what links here.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:09, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
What I envisage is a script which reads .... Township , e.g Ahlaw being linked in the template named Tamu Township and extracts the name and dabs them e.g as Ahlaw, Tamu. It would need to generate pages and also correct the existing links in the templates. Might need BAG approval. I've also proposed it to Plastikspork. Perhaps you could contact him and decide the best way to do it. Meanwhile I'll continue making the templates after I've stubbed some of the few missing township articles for Bago region..♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Norway
Hi Rich. A while back I began adding infoboxes to Norwegian villages, mostly unreferenced stubs lying around from 2006 which were created by Punkmorten (Geshicte). Given that he won't so much as make the tiniest edit to Norwegian geo articles these days, somebody has to do it.Basically it just adding an infobox with the location info county etc and a pin map like Kjelvik. I was wondering if you could copy the that infobox and use some sort of script to add infoboxes (and copy the coordinates from the bototm of the page into the infoboxes to the rest of the villages by county of the Category:Populated places in Norway. So far I've done Finnmark and Sog. Browse Category:Villages in Akershus for starters for example.. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:57, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
What's troubling you Rich? I also need your help with User:Dr. Blofeld/Country year templates.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:42, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Villages, North Cyprus
Hello, I wondered if I could ask you for help? Some time ago someone started a stub for all the villages of North Cyprus. The problem is that they used the Greek names, which are today historical (they have not been used since the war in 1974). Today the Turkish names are used. Hence, as I understand it, according to WP:NAME (see the discussion on Gdańsk vs Danzig) the Turkish names should be used in the articles (Please correct me if I'm wrong).
I have started moving some of the villages of the Kyrenia District -however, it takes for ages for me to do so. I would very much appreciate some help. Thanks, Guestworker (talk) 01:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
- Is there evidence that the Turkish names are used in the English speaking world? Rich Farmbrough, 19:21, 30 November 2010 (UTC).
- Hi, you can look at any guide-book in English of "North Cyprus" or "Northern Cyprus" (Books which are published in the English speaking world) and you will see the the Turkish names are used. Thanks, Guestworker (talk) 06:53, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
I like what you did with this report on the stub templates. Can it be updated? Can a similar report be run for the Categories? Finally, could these be automatically set to update, say, once a month? or even once a quarter? Dawynn (talk) 20:30, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, it's pretty much what I planned, if they are going to be maintained. However it looked like there were other lists doing a similar job that had not been attended to for a significant period of time. Rich Farmbrough, 17:49, 8 December 2010 (UTC).
- Note there is a report for "Uncategorized Stub types" too [[6]]. Rich Farmbrough, 05:24, 9 December 2010 (UTC).
- Note there is a report for "Uncategorized Stub types" too [[6]]. Rich Farmbrough, 05:24, 9 December 2010 (UTC).
Revive Wildbot?
A few folks would love to see someone revive and/or take over Wildbot. You've been mentioned a couple times: [7] [8] Up for it? --W☯W t/c 20:25, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
I note that you've tried to slim down the above page a bit. I took the matter of size to WikiProject Ireland but they didn't seem particularly interested! As you have been around Wikipedia a fair bit (apparently you've got a few thousands edits under your belt), I wondered if you had any ideas on how to make the article accessible to Joe Bloggs. Would splitting it up into List of townlands of County Cork, A–E etc. be acceptable? What's the point in having a page which 80% of readers won't be able to access? Thanks. —Half Price 20:42, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
- Splitting by barony would make more sense. Rich Farmbrough, 23:31, 19 December 2010 (UTC).
Being f Fixed. BTW, hundreds of users have used the wrong infobox on UK school pages (maybe other countries too, I haven't looked yet). Do you know of a quick fix that retains the data? I can't use AWB on my computers. Cheers. --Kudpung (talk) 00:57, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
- Oh? Which template? I thought that there was a resolved discussion which ended up unifying the school (educational institution) infoboxes. Yes I have a fix for this sort of thing. Rich Farmbrough, 06:38, 31 December 2010 (UTC).
- There is no cohesion at the schools project of the kind you get with a project like wine for example where there is a standardised template and a regular group of dedicated members who monitor the quality of the articles and intervenes where necessary. School articles are each and every one written by SPA, none of them read the guidelines, and in the same way as many new editors think every new article needs a new cat for it, they think every school type or school district needs a custom infobox. The end effect is that we have 39 different infoboxes out there where all we need are three: one for US Schools, one for UK schools, one for Oz schools, and a generic one for the est of the world. A big team has just recently improved the programme functions of the UK Schools infobox, and I've had a list made at Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools/UK schools using wrong infoboxes of nearly 400 schools that are using the wrong one. I started to work through the list manually but I felt that this could somehow be automated as I am currently running the schools project pretty much single handed. Any ideas you have would be greatly appreciated. --Kudpung (talk) 07:14, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
- I am pretty sure I replaced all except the UK/Oz ones a couple of years back. And at that time both were completely replaceable with the main infobox - I actually did a trial replacement of each, without loosing any fields. We flatter ourselves that "Ofsted" or "DFES number" is somehow special. Rich Farmbrough, 09:18, 31 December 2010 (UTC).
- I am pretty sure I replaced all except the UK/Oz ones a couple of years back. And at that time both were completely replaceable with the main infobox - I actually did a trial replacement of each, without loosing any fields. We flatter ourselves that "Ofsted" or "DFES number" is somehow special. Rich Farmbrough, 09:18, 31 December 2010 (UTC).
- There is no cohesion at the schools project of the kind you get with a project like wine for example where there is a standardised template and a regular group of dedicated members who monitor the quality of the articles and intervenes where necessary. School articles are each and every one written by SPA, none of them read the guidelines, and in the same way as many new editors think every new article needs a new cat for it, they think every school type or school district needs a custom infobox. The end effect is that we have 39 different infoboxes out there where all we need are three: one for US Schools, one for UK schools, one for Oz schools, and a generic one for the est of the world. A big team has just recently improved the programme functions of the UK Schools infobox, and I've had a list made at Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools/UK schools using wrong infoboxes of nearly 400 schools that are using the wrong one. I started to work through the list manually but I felt that this could somehow be automated as I am currently running the schools project pretty much single handed. Any ideas you have would be greatly appreciated. --Kudpung (talk) 07:14, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
- Hi Rich. Yes, you're right about the DfES and Ofsted fields, but if it was that long ago I guess the 370 on this list are more recent. They have either used deprecated boxes, or copied ones from other school articles. --Kudpung (talk) 19:12, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Removing noinclude tags
Why are you removing noinclude tags: [9]? These year pages are transcluded in higher level articles, and your removal royal screws up the entire chain. 68.35.24.151 (talk) 22:25, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for explaining, I was told there was no current purpose. Onlyinclude is a better directive for this purpose. Rich Farmbrough, 22:54, 1 January 2011 (UTC).
- I agree. It should be a straightforward task to take all the "year" articles and flip the logic. Even better would be to add a comment next to it as well, so people don't inadvertently remove it. I know I have done the same before in season episode list articles which were being transcluded in another article. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:25, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Project Stamford
I've taken up your invite to join, and hope I can do something helpful. But it seems to me there are clever people than me about.
R.J.Penhey (wikipedian RJPe (talk · contribs) might be a useful addition, although he might not want to get involved, judging by what he has said elsewhere. But his own research expertise is far superior to mine [10]
The obvious person to write about Stamford Castle would be David Roffe. But I can't see that he is a wikipedian, unless you know differently. [11] --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 10:24, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- Another name: Martin Bell. Have a look at These pages --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 02:26, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
United States settlements
Hi. I was wondering if you could run something which adds a pushpin map to every infobox by state. I did start doing it manually previously and removed the census maps but I got sidetracked because of objections to the removal of the census maps. However if you were to keep the census maps and to add the pushpin maps this should be fine. Minot, North Dakota for instance. The majority of the articles have the shoddy census maps in them which mostly leaves you really having to look hard where the place actually is in the state. let alone America. Eventually the pin maps will have the US state inserts so you can see where in America it is. Of course I've proposed we have the option like on French wikipedia for clickable maps but nothing is happening there.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:09, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Any thoughts?♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:29, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yes I did one. May not really suited for AWB because of the complex logic (which I'm not sure of yet) - what other parameters are needed for the pushpin map to work? Rich Farmbrough, 19:35, 19th day of January in the year 2011 (UTC).
- I was assuming "coordinates_region" needs to be defined. Rich Farmbrough, 19:36, 19th day of January in the year 2011 (UTC).
- I was assuming "coordinates_region" needs to be defined. Rich Farmbrough, 19:36, 19th day of January in the year 2011 (UTC).
Just a question
I have a question to Smackbot's 40th task. Could this task be expanded to the following categories: Category:Current sports events, Category:Current sports seasons (and it's subcategories) and Category:Scheduled sports events? Armbrust Talk Contribs 20:39, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes. Rich Farmbrough, 20:47, 11 February 2011 (UTC).
Long-term plans to update Convert
Thanks for helping to improve Template:Convert. I will try to give advance notice when I have changes ready, during the next few weeks. I don't want anyone to feel they should "drop everything they're doing" to update {Convert} within 1 day. No, instead, changes can wait several days, as long as there is a path to progress. Also, User:Plastikspork has been helping to make small fixes, so others will be able to help as well. My next concern is changing Template:Convert/round to correctly round negative numbers, which are rarely used because most measurements are lengths, as real-world positive amounts. Here is the goal for negative rounding (to same number of digits), where negative and positive will be similar:
- {{convert|700|ft|m}} → 700 feet (210 m) versus {{convert|-700|ft|m}} → −700 feet (−210 m)
Although it seems shoddy now, to round the negative amount as "−213.4" rather than −210, few users have noticed, because most measurements are positive numbers.
After the fix for negative numbers, I think we should eliminate all special treatment of "imperial units" versus "US customary units" by editing all those subtemplates, as a major step toward simplifying Convert; the plan to edit U.S. & imperial templates is discussed at:
- Template_talk:Convert/deletions - has steps to reduce U.S. & imperial templates.
In fact, I think most of those U.S./imperial subtemplates (as "Template:Convert/imp*" and "Template:Convert/us*") are basically unused, so most could be reduced to "semi-protection" to allow easier editing of each, as time permits. More later. -Wikid77 14:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Query; Lists of People
Hi Rich. I hope all is well. A question ...
The rule as to lists of people is that, if an entry lacks both a wikipedia article and a ref -- it is properly deleted.
Many such lists are replete with such entries. I've spent a good deal of time cleaning up many nation lists the past two weeks. Is there any way for a bot to do it? And is there any way to block new entries that lack both indicia of notability? Many thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 06:53, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
- Short answer, yes to the first and no to the second. (Well you could use editfilters, but I suspect the edit filter people would say the overhead was not worth it.) Using a bot would have to be restricted to certain pages (like [[<Nationality> people]]) and would have to assume that any ref, web link or WP article blue link on the line meant it was OK. It would have a very small risk of breaking stuff even so. Rich Farmbrough, 13:41, 23 February 2011 (UTC).
- That would be fantastic -- even the first would be a great help, and relieve contributing editors of bot-work. How might we move that forward? Many thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 22:35, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
- Can you create a list of the pages? The I could put in a BRFA citing this thread and see what happens. My BRFAs do seem to take an inordinate amount of time right now. Rich Farmbrough, 22:48, 23 February 2011 (UTC).
- The hundreds of lists of people that are listed at the following page (and the indicated sub-categories) would be an amazing start:
- --Epeefleche (talk) 11:02, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, there are included pages such as List of names in A Biographical Dictionary of Modern Rationalists, where it would be an error to remove the red-linked names. Rich Farmbrough, 13:16, 24 February 2011 (UTC).
- If the red-links there are not footnoted, I think they are subject to deletion, per wp:LISTPEOPLE. Which says: "If a person in a list does not have an article in Wikipedia about them, a citation (or link to another article) must be provided to establish their membership in the list's group and to establish their notability." But, if you think it better, perhaps we could start with a very small and clean group of lists, such as Category:Lists of people by U.S. cities. Or, (and this has more "gray" entries, which I could cull if you like) Category:Lists of people by nationality.--Epeefleche (talk) 13:31, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- That is what I meant, pretty much, by a list of the pages. (The example I gave would escape the letter of the rule, but would fall foul of a bot, but there are others such as List of Swedish ambassadors to the Ukraine which are clearly not the sort of thing meant, but technically fall under the rule.) The purpose of the rule is to protect against massive, unmaintainable and (possibly) inaccurate lists. Rich Farmbrough, 13:55, 24 February 2011 (UTC).
- That is what I meant, pretty much, by a list of the pages. (The example I gave would escape the letter of the rule, but would fall foul of a bot, but there are others such as List of Swedish ambassadors to the Ukraine which are clearly not the sort of thing meant, but technically fall under the rule.) The purpose of the rule is to protect against massive, unmaintainable and (possibly) inaccurate lists. Rich Farmbrough, 13:55, 24 February 2011 (UTC).
- If the red-links there are not footnoted, I think they are subject to deletion, per wp:LISTPEOPLE. Which says: "If a person in a list does not have an article in Wikipedia about them, a citation (or link to another article) must be provided to establish their membership in the list's group and to establish their notability." But, if you think it better, perhaps we could start with a very small and clean group of lists, such as Category:Lists of people by U.S. cities. Or, (and this has more "gray" entries, which I could cull if you like) Category:Lists of people by nationality.--Epeefleche (talk) 13:31, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, there are included pages such as List of names in A Biographical Dictionary of Modern Rationalists, where it would be an error to remove the red-linked names. Rich Farmbrough, 13:16, 24 February 2011 (UTC).
- Can you create a list of the pages? The I could put in a BRFA citing this thread and see what happens. My BRFAs do seem to take an inordinate amount of time right now. Rich Farmbrough, 22:48, 23 February 2011 (UTC).
- That would be fantastic -- even the first would be a great help, and relieve contributing editors of bot-work. How might we move that forward? Many thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 22:35, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
- I've been asked that question, but didn't have the response: if the entry has no wikilink, I can see how it can be done. However, if the entry has a wikilink, is a bot capable of detecting it if there is no article behind it? --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 03:01, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, but AWB isn't. Use wget or similar to pull the HTML of the page and check for red links. I have the code for this somewhere, I'm trying to remember what I used it for. Rich Farmbrough, 13:12, 24 February 2011 (UTC).
- Yes, but AWB isn't. Use wget or similar to pull the HTML of the page and check for red links. I have the code for this somewhere, I'm trying to remember what I used it for. Rich Farmbrough, 13:12, 24 February 2011 (UTC).
- Is this what you are looking for? It is a first cut -- some 200 lists. More can (and should) be added (If the format is fine, and you would like me to, I can work on expanding the list for you). I wasn't certain what format you need (e.g., should I bluelink the lists for you?). Also, is it ok with you if I refer to this discussion at the wp:listpeople talkpage? Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 09:46, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, but it's going to need checking, for example List of Directors of the National Intelligence Service (South Korea) and predecessor organizations (which is table format anyway and so would be a little more tricky) is the type of thing where the whole list is referenced to one reference. And by all means refer to this discussion. Rich Farmbrough, 21:53, 27 February 2011 (UTC).
- Yes, but it's going to need checking, for example List of Directors of the National Intelligence Service (South Korea) and predecessor organizations (which is table format anyway and so would be a little more tricky) is the type of thing where the whole list is referenced to one reference. And by all means refer to this discussion. Rich Farmbrough, 21:53, 27 February 2011 (UTC).
Scotland (continued)
Hi. Thanks for that, I've sorted out Indonesian links. Now Scotland. Can you do the same thing with the maps in Category:Populated places in Inverness committee area and Category:Populated places in Sutherland? Once that's done I'll add the infoboxes to the remainder.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:22, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
- Did I do this? I think so...Rich Farmbrough, 23:41, 29 April 2011 (UTC).
Those album cat renames
You might not have noticed, but I've vandalised User:Rich_Farmbrough/temp19/redir with loads of ticks and crosses.
I hope what I'm doing is OK, and I'm pretty sure it is, mostly - so I'm boldly ploughing through them. If it is all wrong though, please let me know. Cheers, Chzz ► 00:25, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
Answered on user's talk page. Rich Farmbrough, 22:16, 5 March 2011 (UTC).
Scotland
Rich can you add the relative maps to Category:Populated places in Sutherland and Category:Populated places in Ross and Cromarty? I'd rather not do it manually!...♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:51, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Also can you go through the mountains/volcanoes and possibly national parks of the following countries and change the pin maps in the infoboxes and add relief on the end of the pushpin countries. I've created new relief maps of Iceland, Latvia, Norway, Belarus, Lithuania, Argentina , Brazil, Chile, Honduras, and Bulgaria. We want the fabulous Template:location map Iceland relief etc to feature in such articles like this.. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:49, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Oh, are you on a wikibreak or something? You've been relatively quiet of late.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:54, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Eh?♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:47, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Yeah I know what you mean. Nobody thanks you for all of the good work you do and the moment you do something which they see as "controversial" or causing a minor problem they blow it into something massive, spout off negative comments at you as if you are some sort of annoying little vandal and then try to strictly control your freedom to edit and in doing so violate one of the core principles of wikipedia. You can think "well ignore the bastards" but then they start trying to threaten you with blocking or whatever if you don't listen and in doing so can cause an even bigger hash of the situation than any problem you had ever caused. I'm sure I saw you "reported" somewhere, an arb report or something or other, perhaps that's what's really bugging you. Not sure what its about but I personally think that people trying to impose bureacratic control over editors is one of the biggest issues on wikipedia at the moment. We need editors to have freedom and to work in good faith.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:05, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Well, sometimes WP:BOLD should be taken more seriously. Unfortunately the most prolific editors seem to come across opposition from time to time, I mean I was being bold and acting in good faith with my Australian template merger proposals a while back and I got a major grilling over it. Editing Djibouti roads for instance is unlikely to attract any moaning minnies but if say I mass removed nav boxes from places in some American city or Aussie county or something it would likely kick up a storm. I think its maybe because you've covered more articles on wikipedia that anybody in its history so from time to time you are undoubtedly going to to attract some unwanted attention I think by people who disagree with the edits.. Above all though its the lack of good faith and branding you as a vandal which is the most hurtful and zapping your motivation to edit. The bureacrat owes you an apology as his failure to recognise good faith edits is seriously concerning.
How are your bot coding skills from other websites? Because we could sure use your bot to create listed of British Listed buildings.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:33, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Are place names and coordinates copyrightable?♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:50, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
- Certainly not in the US - well to be more accurate a list isn't, provided there's no creative content. So I've Been Everywhere Man is, but the one we are talking about isn't. And I think we would be on fairly safe ground if we drive it off the EH site. They are, after all proclaiming it. Rich Farmbrough, 21:55, 8 March 2011 (UTC).
Names of places and coordinates would be fine to start with I think... I really need AWB help!!.♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:00, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Have you had your AWB tools stripped or something?♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:13, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Can you do the requests when you have a moment? P.s. I'm getting a lot of city maps onto wikipedi using OSM. I could use some help at one point to set up a list of cities or something and to keep track of which maps we have and which we don't. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:38, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Well I was thinking of some sub pages of WP:Geography or something in which I can list all of the city maps we have on wikipedia, kind of like User:Nilfanion has in the commons keeping track of what he's uploaded. I think I'd start with capital cities but then branch out into say the top 20 or so cities and towns of each country. Just creating Template:Location map Libya Tripoli Old City for instance...♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:44, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Is there somebody else who can get these things done?♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:39, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
Can you help or not??♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:45, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
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Wikilove guest post?
Dear Rich,
I am starting a blog about wikilove and the wiki nature. Not necessarily mediawiki or wikipedia, but with guest posts from wikipedians and others who clearly get and are inspired by it. (one of my favorite personal examples is someone who went around tagging everything with 2d barcodes that linked to a webpage where he would write about it... during the initial surge of enthusiasm about cellphone barcode-readers)
Would you be willing to write a guest post about something that has inspired you recently? It would be extra cool to have an additional post about things that inspire your bots ;-) I like to think of them holding secret meetings on the small language wikis, protected from rc patrollers by their bot flags...
Regards, –SJ+ 19:38, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
SmackBot Source?
Dear Rich, I’d like to set up a scheme similar to Category:Wikipedia maintenance categories sorted by month at de.wikipedia, and I’ve gathered support for doing so[12]. Would you be ready to hand out the source of the sections of SmackBot that perform this task? I’ve read it is implemented in Perl and you think about moving to PyWikipediaBot. I’d also appreciate Python rather than Perl, and maybe – without making any promises yet – I might set up a similar Python bot you might use later in return – maybe I’d just adapt your code, in either case your source code would be helpful. Thanks & regards --dealerofsalvation 06:35, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I'll try to produce a presentable version of the code. Rich Farmbrough, 13:54, 7 April 2011 (UTC).
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Help with article...
Hi, this is my first time "trying" to edit a Wikipedia article (David L Boushey), I work on webpages with Adobe software (Dreamweaver, Flash, etc...) so my friend ask me for help on this (she thought that because I do webpages, I suppose to be good at this... wrong!), I did some changes trying to find more References, and I think that works, but still need some Citations, We are working on it, the problem we have now is about the "Autobiography", how we can fix that?, any help is really appreciated, thank you very much... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vinko2000 (talk • contribs) 07:16, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
In response to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_State_Route_47, can you explain why citation needed was removed? I couldn't find any information as to why it's "officially" called Seaside Fwy. None of the signs call it that. Additionally it used to be called Seaside Ave at some point but any references to that have been removed. Also, http://www.cahighways.org/maps-sc-fwy-pt2.html mentions that Seaside Freeway/Expressway. This was a portion of Route 47. I was hoping someone would prove me otherwise as I don't have enough resources 'city planning' etc to find as a reference that it is still the case. Supagene (talk) 17:31, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
AWB
Are you still up for AWB? I need you to paste infoboxes into the Norwegian villages articles.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:43, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
A yes or a no would suffice...♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:58, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Yes I can do that I guess. Rich Farmbrough, 22:52, 12 April 2011 (UTC).
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New tasks for SmackBot
Can you please perform the following tasks with SmackBot (and ask for a BRFA if not already covered by your tasks)? Since the tasks were already approved for Yobot it should be no problem. Thanks! -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:50, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
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BRFA 8 | Replace the short-cut template "lifetime" with the DEFAULTSORT keyword and the categories it generates. |
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BRFA 14 | Moving HATNOTES on the top per WP:HNP to help accessibility and navigation |
BRFA 16 | WP:CHECKWIKI error fixes |
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A possible task for a bot
I am going to be requesting a bot task in relation to the U.S. Collaboration of the Month and I was hoping I could ask you a couple questions. Right now I am just gathering data for the writup but basically I am trying to streamline and automate some of the manual functions that are required to maintain the Collaboration. Basically the bot would do the following things:
- Notify all WikiProject's associated to the article when an article is selected as a US Collaboration candidate.
- Notify all WikiProject's associated to the article when an article is selected as the US Collaboration of the Month
- Notify any editors who have worked on the article in the past (I would say at least the top 10 or 20 editors at least). Not including IP's, bot's or blocked users. if the article is a US Collaboration candidate.
- Notify any editors who have worked on the article in the past (I would say at least the top 10 or 20 editors at least). Not including IP's, bot's or blocked users. if the article is selected as the US Collaboration of the Month.
- Potentially allow users to be notified (like myself as an example) if an article is submitted as the collaboration of the month candidate or is selected even if they are not associated to a project or the article in question. This would be similar to how many newsletters work.
I have some other potential things that might be doable also but these are the main things. A couple of the others are:
- automatically updating the affected articles or templates when the collaboration of the month is selected or if a candidate time has expired
- updating the vote counts
- updating the history table, etc
Do you know if these are doable and if so do you know of a bot that might be useful for this? Thanks--Kumioko (talk) 17:00, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- Yes there are as you say newsletter bots that could do that part of the task. The functionality for notifying top X editors exists in some form I think. Updateing time expired candidates is suitable small task for Femto bot or any other small-task bot. Vote counts ditto, but beware natural language parsing limitations - this could be made automatic. Rich Farmbrough, 17:44, 5 May 2011 (UTC).
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Question about Femto bot and Recent changes
Hey Rich I had a small question about how Femto bot updates the Recent changes for WikiProjects. On Wikipedia:WikiProject United States/Recent changes you will see that the list is getting quite long and I was going to trim out some of the earlier pages to say reflect only the last 30 or so. I assume that the highest number (in this case 75) is the most recent but when I look at the edit history of the pages they all seem to update regularly so I couldn't put my finger on how it was doing it or which was the most recent. Is it safe to delete some of these pages and if so how do I tell what the most current one is? Thanks. --Kumioko (talk) 02:34, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes the difficulty is this: the page size is limited, the bigger the pages the more likely the save is to fail - hence the splitting. The original idea was to transclude the pages from Wikipedia:WikiProject United States/Recent changes, enabling one to visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject_United_States/Recent_changes and pick up all the project related changes, however the page will not save with a full set of transclusions. The solution to this is to blank the transcluded pages and regenerate them, however I'm not sure if the main page would then ever succeed in picking up the changes. Rich Farmbrough, 20:43, 10 June 2011 (UTC).
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Page protection tag
Hi,
I know you've been adding dates to tags so I thought you might be able to help. I see that Brazil has been protected. I thought perhaps it was a long running dispute because I kept coming across it. The tag doesn't say when that was applied and I suspect that we need to date such tags so we can purge old ones.
Can you take a look at the tags on that page and see if we can apply dates to them? Lightmouse (talk) 14:57, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hm, the bot doesn't have the rights to edit fully protected pages. I'll think on it. Rich Farmbrough, 00:41, 12 June 2011 (UTC).
harmful articles
Hiya, I seem to call one you had some criteria for identifing 'harmful articles', can you point in in the direct of that. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 13:19, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'm inclined to think it was "harmful redirects"? Unless you can be more specific. Rich Farmbrough, 16:37, 16 June 2011 (UTC).
- The only think I recall was that Jimbo commented on it. Does that ring a bell? Regards, SunCreator (talk) 17:45, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, BLPs, I have been meaning to bot that task. I was looking for key-words "scandal" "affair" "Murder" "libel" "law-suit" etc... Rich Farmbrough, 17:50, 16 June 2011 (UTC).
- Currentl see #Risk List Bot. Rich Farmbrough, 18:06, 16 June 2011 (UTC).
- Yes, that's it. Where to I see the Risk List? Above link is dead. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 18:53, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'll have to make a new one.
Rich Farmbrough, 18:55, 16 June 2011 (UTC).
- Was thinking of doing a similar thing for new articles (via User:TedderBot/NewPageSearch, that's if I find someone who it willing to check through the list of them once found. Did you find any takers on your risk list before? Regards, SunCreator (talk) 19:05, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, people went through the list. I can't remember if I did a second run, but I think I did. Rich Farmbrough, 19:14, 16 June 2011 (UTC).
- Thanks. I'm looking at doing it now. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 21:06, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- Found in your contributions(!) Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Risk_lists/List_2 Regards, SunCreator (talk) 22:06, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, people went through the list. I can't remember if I did a second run, but I think I did. Rich Farmbrough, 19:14, 16 June 2011 (UTC).
- Was thinking of doing a similar thing for new articles (via User:TedderBot/NewPageSearch, that's if I find someone who it willing to check through the list of them once found. Did you find any takers on your risk list before? Regards, SunCreator (talk) 19:05, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- I'll have to make a new one.
- Yes, that's it. Where to I see the Risk List? Above link is dead. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 18:53, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, BLPs, I have been meaning to bot that task. I was looking for key-words "scandal" "affair" "Murder" "libel" "law-suit" etc... Rich Farmbrough, 17:50, 16 June 2011 (UTC).
- The only think I recall was that Jimbo commented on it. Does that ring a bell? Regards, SunCreator (talk) 17:45, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Text after redirects
Some time ago you bulk-reverted Mhiji's removal of text after redirects (edits such as this one), the majority of those removals appear to have been correct. While the text after the redirect doesn't automatically do any harm, there are many cases in which it is not wanted. (Copyright violations, nonsensical text, straight copy-pastes from the target article, and so forth). Just to let you know I have already re-reverted some of these and will likely do more. Thanks Gurch (talk) 21:28, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I have no problem with selective removal, probably I intended to find a better way to do what he had meant to do, pretty much the only things there shoukld be are {Redirect from/to...} {redirect with possibilities} and categories. Rich Farmbrough, 21:32, 17 June 2011 (UTC).
- (This should probably go on my to-do list) Rich Farmbrough, 09:29, 21 June 2011 (UTC).
- (This should probably go on my to-do list) Rich Farmbrough, 09:29, 21 June 2011 (UTC).
Femto Bot-watchlist
I'm very interested to having the bot generate a list for WikiProject Conservatism, but I have a question. RecentChangesLinked does not automatically show changes to associated talk pages, and it doesn't look like the bot generates entries for associated talk pages. Is there a way to also show changes to talk pages? – Lionel (talk) 16:25, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes there is an option for this. Rich Farmbrough, 23:20, 22 June 2011 (UTC).
- Rich Farmbrough, 19:34, 23 June 2011 (UTC).
Thanks for the quick response, Rich, much appreciated. Looking at the 2 pages, I wonder if it'll work in my scrolbox. This is what it looks like now:
{{scroll box|{{Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject Conservatism/articles}}}}
Do I need the articles and talk pages combined in a single page? – Lionel (talk) 23:10, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- Replace the content of Wikipedia:WikiProject Conservatism/articles with
{{Wikipedia:WikiProject Conservatism/Recent changes}} {{Wikipedia:WikiProject Conservatism/Recent changes talk}}
and you are done. Rich Farmbrough, 23:23, 24 June 2011 (UTC).
- Ah... Transclusion. Why didn't I think of that? Works like a charm! You're a genius. – Lionel (talk) 01:03, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Quick question: does the bot follow redirects, e.g. in our case {{WP Conservatism}}? Not a big deal, just wondering. – Lionel (talk) 20:59, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, it should, since it uses "what links here" functionality. Rich Farmbrough, 21:59, 25 June 2011 (UTC).
- Yes, it should, since it uses "what links here" functionality. Rich Farmbrough, 21:59, 25 June 2011 (UTC).
- Quick question: does the bot follow redirects, e.g. in our case {{WP Conservatism}}? Not a big deal, just wondering. – Lionel (talk) 20:59, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
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I hereby award you this barnstar for building FemtoBot: The little bot that could – Lionel (talk) 01:27, 25 June 2011 (UTC) |
- Thanks! Rich Farmbrough, 21:59, 25 June 2011 (UTC).
Smackbot adding date parameter
Hi, I cannot see why Smackbot is adding a date parameter to a reference as in this edit. The date for the reference is invalid as it is after the accessdate and if required should use month and year parameters as it is not a full date. Keith D (talk) 23:04, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, it's a bug, although a rare one. Rich Farmbrough, 23:13, 25 June 2011 (UTC).
Smackbot 38
Do you think you'll ever revisit Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/SmackBot 38? It seemed like a nice addition to SB's long list of small, helpful fixes. Tim1357 talk 01:28, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes I will revisit most of that stuff at some point. Rich Farmbrough, 16:35, 26 June 2011 (UTC).
Michael Waugh
Please clarify. (You didn't note this as a problem but you are a more experienced editor than me.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Waugh_(artist) is an "orphan" because all of the links go out, and none come in? Is this what is meant by "incoming link"? thanks--Aichikawa (talk) 20:00, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes as the box says "few or no other articles link to it". Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 07:04, 27 June 2011 (UTC).
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SmackBot
Once again Smackbot gets in the way, this time at Hungarian Revolution of 1848. Does it not recognize the {{inuse}}
tag? This is not the first time I have quarrelled about your bots, but I was just doing very complicated fixup of references and thanks to your bot, I lost the lot because of an edit conflict.
I think your bots are far more trouble than they are worth. But I know you have a different opinion.
Sincerely Rich I know you are committed to Wikipedia and do lots of good work, but this kind of annoyance from your bots is not helpful. Please take this in the same spirit of encouragement and good will, it may not seem so but I do mean it so. I don't think the bot should go meddling when there is an {{tlx|inuse} tag on it. I use it vbery rarely, but sometimes when fixing up references etc one HAS to do it in the article space rather than copy the page to user space, because of the cross links won't work in user space. I know it is a pain and I try to keep it brief, but your bot has made it longer.
My sincere regards as always.
Si Trew (talk) 12:29, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- It does recognise {{In use}}, in general, I will investigate why it did not in this case. In cases like this just overwrite the bot edit Si, using the text from the bottom pane. Rich Farmbrough, 11:03, 29 June 2011 (UTC).
- (And of course do leave me a note.) Rich Farmbrough, 11:11, 29 June 2011 (UTC).
- (And of course do leave me a note.) Rich Farmbrough, 11:11, 29 June 2011 (UTC).
Trying to improve this article in general. Also Reverend Charisma article got messed up.Can you help with that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnotherGenericUser (talk • contribs) 07:50, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
- Looks like you sorted the Reverend Charisma (album) article? I think you need to check the licensing of the video clips, they should probably be "fair use" rather than "self made" . Rich Farmbrough, 13:29, 29 June 2011 (UTC).
Bot
Hi, Rich. It looks that in this edit the bot got confused by a template within template, and the "date=" parameter ended up being inserted into an unrelated template. The infobox itself is already dated, by the way, so this specific rule it's definitely worth being looked into. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); June 29, 2011; 16:28 (UTC)
- FYI, the bot keeps doing this.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); July 11, 2011; 14:05 (UTC)
New monthly categories
At the moment there are 85 categories in Wikipedia:List of monthly maintenance categories given month. I found another 9. That is in addition to the 3 I asked you about above.
In addition I found that 17 of the categories there weren't mentioned in Wikipedia:List of monthly maintenance categories with templates. Most of them I have added by now.
Of course, in the course of the research involved I stumbled upon a few things that need to be improved, or that I don't understand, or that I would like to do differently. Both in the categories as well as in the related templates.
So I have two questions: 1. Are you up to the issues I found with both the new categories and the others we had before? 2. Are you up to adding 9 (or 12) new categories with monthly subcategories to your system of automated creation and maintenance?
Understandably I could write all of it down here, and you could work through it on your own pace. Debresser (talk) 22:51, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:List of monthly maintenance categories given month drives the new monthly category creation ahead of time, so adding missing categories there is no bad thing. If a category is missing here it will still be created once an article is added to it, provided there is a progress box for that set of categories. It could be argued that some of the categories are so sparse (Categories for cleanup, for example) that it is not worth creating a category every month, only to speedy G6 it once the month has elapsed, but I think on balance it would be a very minor problem if that happened. Rich Farmbrough, 23:15, 30 June 2011 (UTC).
- Ok. Then I will add them there. Is there a need to mention templates to be added to SmackBot here seperately, or are they somehow noticed in the process? And I'll make the appropriate templates etc. (like progress boxes), just like I did last time. Can I post my questions, suggestions and requests related to the new categories and templates here, and hope that you'll find time to give me advise and help out where needed? Debresser (talk) 23:31, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Certes. Rich Farmbrough, 23:34, 30 June 2011 (UTC).
- Certes. Rich Farmbrough, 23:34, 30 June 2011 (UTC).
- Ok. Then I will add them there. Is there a need to mention templates to be added to SmackBot here seperately, or are they somehow noticed in the process? And I'll make the appropriate templates etc. (like progress boxes), just like I did last time. Can I post my questions, suggestions and requests related to the new categories and templates here, and hope that you'll find time to give me advise and help out where needed? Debresser (talk) 23:31, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Templates for User:SmackBot
- Template:Year needed (I think you had this one, because a progress template existed, even though it was not in the list. But better be sure.)
- Template:Technical-statement
- Template:Overcoverage, and the related new category Category:Articles with disproportional geographic scope, which I have already added to Wikipedia:List of monthly maintenance categories given month, and created a progress box for, but you might have to run the bot to create to monthly subcategories. Or does that work automatically?
- Yes it's automatic. I added "Over coverage" when it turned up in my manual checking. I have these all now. Rich Farmbrough, 19:46, 1 July 2011 (UTC).
- Template:Where Please change the code of this fully protected template to use parameter "cat-date" instead of "cat".
- Template:Buzz and Template:Buzzword Btw, I think the template should be called "Buzzwords", no?
- Template:Update after See also issue #5.
Issues
- 1. {{Cleanup-list}} is supposed to sort into Category:Wikipedia list cleanup as well. That is what it says on the category page. And so it was till this edit of yours. Since the template is fully protected, could you add
{{DMCA|Wikipedia list cleanup|from|{{{date|}}}}}
to it?
Done
- 2. I added Category:Articles needing expert attention to {{Technical-statement}}, analogously to {{Technical}}. But I am in doubt whether to also add Category:Wikipedia articles that are too technical analogously to {{Technical}}. The difference being that {{Technical}} refers to the whole article, while {{Technical-statement}} as an inline template refers to only 1 specific statement. I would argue that even 1 statement makes the whole article too technical. Even if one were to disagree with that argument, and say that a Category:Wikipedia articles with statements that are too technical (or something like that) should be created, I would argue that it might be preferable to use the existing Category:Wikipedia articles that are too technical, which is at least closely related, rather than make a whole new category. What do you think?
- I'm neutral on this, however Occams razor may apply. Rich Farmbrough, 12:02, 1 July 2011 (UTC).
- 3. archived
- 4. Shouldn't Category:Vague or ambiguous time (uses the fully protected {{When}}) be renamed to something like Category:Articles with vague or ambiguous time (or Category:Articles with vague or ambiguous time indicators/descriptions)? And the same for Category:Vague or ambiguous geographic scope (uses the fully protected {{Where}}) to Category:Articles with vague or ambiguous geographic scope. Debresser (talk) 12:53, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- Still waiting for your opinion, or, if you agree, just go ahead. Debresser (talk) 17:54, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Well, I ask the question "is the qualifier needed to distinguish between content categories and maintenance categories" - notably things like "Category:Tools" needs to be distinct from "Category:Wikipedia tools" most of the other stuff I find overqualified, if anything, more so now that we have a largely hidden hierarchy. On top of this having "Articles .... " (while widely used) might mean we eventually end up with a parallel hierarchy for "Categories... " "Images..." "Templates...." and "Portal pages ....", so I'm inclined not to add "Articles...". Rich Farmbrough, 20:54, 2 July 2011 (UTC).
- I think the answer to your question is yes. Which is why I raised the subject. In addition, I seem to remember that I was one of those who were involved in the formulation of that question, and that it was meant to apply only to the word "Wikipedia" but not to the word "articles".
- The complication you mention, which has happened with {{Cleanup}}, regrettably, could be avoided by using the word "pages". But that should probably be done across the board, and is not a solution to be used ad hoc. Debresser (talk) 20:59, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Pages is fairly widely used, for example: Category:Pages with several capitalization mistakes. Rich Farmbrough, 22:02, 2 July 2011 (UTC).
- I'd be in favor of implementing the word "Pages" instead of "Articles" and "Wikipedia articles", and certainly consider it preferable to having nothing as in this case. But I think that should be discussed and applied to all maintenance categories in one big step. Debresser (talk) 22:14, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- 5. {{Update after}} actually uses the word "since" instead of "from". A remnant of a long-forgotten era. :) Note the double category structure in Category:Wikipedia articles in need of updating. In addition, it has per year categories. Note that this tag is used to denote the date when updating is needed, not when the tag was placed. Something like {{As of}} but only for future dates. Which makes it interesting, because it may have future months. What do you say about using "from"? Btw, are you familiar with {{Dated update category}}?
- 6. Please replace the category handling code of the fully protected {{Copypaste}}
- from
<includeonly>{{DMCA|Copied and pasted articles and sections|from|{{{date|}}}|All copied and pasted articles and sections}}{{#if:{{{url|}}}|{{{category|[[Category:Copied and pasted articles and sections with url provided]]}}}}}</includeonly>
- to
{{DMCA|Copied and pasted articles and sections|from|{{{date|}}}|All copied and pasted articles and sections}}{{#if:{{{url|}}}|{{DMCA|Copied and pasted articles and sections with url provided|from|{{{date|}}}}}}}
, which adds dated subcategories for the "with url provided" category.
- Can these two be merged with an #if:, or is the space between the words a problem? That would have the advantage of removing double categorisation. I mean that at present an article with a specified url shows up in the general category as well.
- like
{{DMCA|Copied and pasted articles and sections{{#if:{{{url|}}}|&-#-32-;with url provided}}|from|{{{date|}}}|All copied and pasted articles and sections}}
Note what I had to do to that unicode.
- This can of course also be done by using
{{#if:{{{url|}}}|{{DMCA|Copied and pasted articles and sections with url provided|from|{{{date|}}}|All copied and pasted articles and sections}}|{{DMCA|Copied and pasted articles and sections|from|{{{date|}}}|All copied and pasted articles and sections}}}}
but the previous code is the most elegant.
- Editprotected request added to talkpage. Debresser (talk) 12:18, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Closed, and my proposal implemented. Debresser (talk) 16:30, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
- 7. I hope you agree with this edit and its rationale. Btw, why don't we add a section parameter to Template:COI, and rewrite {{COI-section}} like {{POV-section}}? Is not immediately necessary, but might be a good idea.
- 8. You are welcome to comment on this Cfr.
So far so good
There are now 98 monthly categories in Wikipedia:List of monthly maintenance categories given month whose templates are now all listed in Wikipedia:List of monthly maintenance categories with templates. In this section we have two templates to be added to SmackBot and a few unresolved issues.
Larger issues are the one mentioned on MSGJ's talkpage below, all-inclusive categories (which I'd be happy to help tackle), and perhaps a rename of all relevant monthly maintenance categories to use the word "Pages" or "Wikipedia pages". Have to leave sth for the future. Debresser (talk) 23:11, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, you had noted on this page (January 2010) that it had incorrect inline citations. I have since edited the page. Can you please recheck and remove the note if everything is now in order? Thanks! Eglobe55 (talk) 23:31, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
- Good work. SmackBot just dates those templates, though, and if the problem has been fixed anyone may remove them (I have done it in this case). Rich Farmbrough, 23:38, 30 June 2011 (UTC).
Please participate
Please participate and leave your opinion in a thread I opened on MSGJ's talkpage. User_talk:MSGJ#Ambox_and_categories Debresser (talk) 20:21, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
And while we're at it, please tell me your opinion about a small issue on Template_talk:Cv-unsure#Who. Debresser (talk) 01:33, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Future categories
Category:Articles containing potentially dated statements from August 2011 is empty, as well it should be. It was previously populated by Dangdang. Why doesn't it autonominate for speedy deletion? Doesn't that apply to future categories?Debresser (talk) 00:09, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Just intuitively, perhaps
{{#ifexpr:({{CURRENTYEAR}}*12+{{CURRENTMONTH}}-{{{year|0}}}*12-{{{monthno|0}}})>1
in Template:Monthly clean-up category/core should use ABS (if such a function exists here). Debresser (talk) 01:44, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Maybe. But yes that is why. Rich Farmbrough, 19:16, 3 July 2011 (UTC).
- This Mediawiki page says we have {{#expr: abs(-5)}} -> 5. Debresser (talk) 19:33, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- I also made {{Absolute value}}. Debresser (talk) 20:03, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Would you care to see what happens if you use
{{#ifexpr:({{#expr: abs({{CURRENTYEAR}}*12+{{CURRENTMONTH}}-{{{year|0}}}*12-{{{monthno|0}}})}})>1
It won't harm the deletion of past categories, will only add future ones. Btw, why is it ">1" and not ">0"? Does that mean that last months categories are kept, don't think so. So why the "1"? And how will that affect future categories? Or will the "1" mean that the present category will be nominated as well when absolute value is added? Debresser (talk) 23:19, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Femto Bot for WikiProject Connecticut
I would like to request the services of Femto Bot to help track the recent changes of WikiProject Connecticut pages. Per instructions, I have created the necessary WikiProject subpages here and here. I have recently seen the ability to easily track changes on WikiProject Conservatism, and I think it would be a useful addition to the Connecticut project. Many thanks. --Sgt. R.K. Blue (talk) 07:43, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Done. Rich Farmbrough, 10:31, 3 July 2011 (UTC).
- Looks great. Thank you. --Sgt. R.K. Blue (talk) 11:29, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
The WikiProject Barnstar
For the services of your bot to help with tracking WikiProject Connecticut articles, I award you this barnstar and the title of Honorary Nutmegger. --Sgt. R.K. Blue (talk) 11:29, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks! Rich Farmbrough, 13:09, 4 July 2011 (UTC).
AWB removing GOCE template.
Hi. I'd like to find out why your use of AWB removes the GOCE template (e.g. at the bottom of this edit)? Thanks. GFHandel ♬ 01:14, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
- Investigating. Rich Farmbrough, 11:11, 5 July 2011 (UTC).
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Country houses
Hi Rich. Rosie recently created Category:Country houses in the United Kingdom and Category:Country houses in England and Category:Manor houses in the United Kingdom. What I need is to merge manor houses into country houses category and then for you to go through the sub cats in Category:Houses in England, Wales , Scotland and N. Ireland by county and add this country house category. You'll find the vast majority will indeed be country houses so you can simply categorize them all. What I want is this category eventually to hold all country houses in England, and then the same with Wales, Scotland etc. Some time I will create a List of country houses in England which will attempt to list all country houses, manors, halls, stately homes etc and can route out the missing articles. But if you could fill this new category with anything which ends in Hall , Manor or House this would be of great help.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:23, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
- Hm, merging is a matter for CfD, I confess to finding this categorisation confusing and unclear - in real world terms as well as WP terms. For example Grovelands House was a country house when it was built, but would not be described as such today. Manor houses would be fairly well defined, although I suspect there would be some Foo Manors that are not manorial houses. Denbiegh Hall is (or was) a fairly modest residence, would we still classify it as a hall?
I created this template (my first) after it was used WP:BOLDly by another user and discussed it at [13]. My inclusion of the word Aotearoa was a deliberate considered act which I shared with others met no resistance. If there is a good reason to exclude it (I understand it changes the name of the corresponded category) that's fine, but I'm not keen on removing it just to tidy things. My use of the word is related to a local cultural movement summarised in part at Māori language revival. Stuartyeates (talk) 00:45, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I understand that, and I should probably have dropped you a note. The Maori language revival is of course not unique, even as far as its extension to place names - as any visitor to Wales will confirm. This being the English language Wikipedia, we provide the names of places in other relevant languages in the articles pertaining to them, usually both in the lead and the infobox, but use the WP:Common name as the article title, and also in most contexts. There is of course the language Wikipedia which, by and large, I believe does things the same way (using the Maori name and providing the English version, (where appropriate) in the infobox). The other interesting parallel is of course the renaming (or respelling, depending how you look at it) of many places in India, here some of the revived versions such as Mumbai have become the common name in English (although I understand that in the city "Bombay" is still generally used) and we have moved the articles. Rich Farmbrough, 10:46, 9 July 2011 (UTC).
Problem:this article needed more categories and I found categories that were accepted on the Dutch version in Wikimedia Commons. I suppose this is not how it is used on Wikipedia. Probably only
an administrator can find a solution, as the categories are now in red. Thank you, Kalaharih--Kalaharih (talk) 18:37, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
- Just need to find the right cats, is all. Rich Farmbrough, 23:13, 9 July 2011 (UTC).
Help
Can you help me in putting my name in the list of Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of recent edits. And tell me how can I check my recent edits count by date.--—AssassiN's Creed (talk) 11:38, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
- That page is updated intermittently, you just have to wait for the next update.
- Look here for instructions on how to opt in to SoxRed's monthly edit stats.
- Rich Farmbrough, 12:28, 10 July 2011 (UTC).
Hubertine Heijermans
What about the cat 'Portrait painter'? I found it in the wikipedia list. Second question:where can I find a cat called 'Lithographer'. Thanks for your answer. Kalaharih--Kalaharih (talk) 12:46, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
Issue 6
It would be nice to have some feedback on issues 7 and 8 also, especially since they take two minutes each, but issue 6 is the only one involving a protected template, so there I depend on you. Debresser (talk) 13:53, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
- On the issue of {{Update after}}. You changed the monthly categories from "since" to "from", but not the yearly categories "since 2007, 2008, etc". And they are populated. What to do with them? Debresser (talk) 14:17, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
- After giving it some consideration, I'd say that since when the year alone is specified, the template is activated on January 1, we could change
{{DMCA|Wikipedia articles in need of updating|since|{{{1}}}}}}}
to {{DMCA|Wikipedia articles in need of updating|from|January {{{1}}}}}}}
, and that's it. Debresser (talk) 20:52, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Hubertine Heijermans
Did my best not to forget an explanation for shorter text and more cats added, but I stumble on the demands for better work, still there. Could you give clarity. i am not impatient, but very unsure. Kalaharih--Kalaharih (talk) 15:23, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Templates
Just to let you know, I've had to revert your recent edit to {{cat improve}}. I'm not sure if you just made a coding error, but your edit had the accidental effect of completely depopulating the entire Category:Articles needing additional categories backlog. Bearcat (talk) 18:49, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
- The reason being that {{Ambox}} has no
|cat-date=
parameter, just a |cat=
parameter, which is automatically dated when a |date=
parameter is specified, see {{Ambox/category}}. Debresser (talk) 20:43, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
- Abberation, thanks. Rich Farmbrough, 12:03, 12 July 2011 (UTC).
SmackBot edit warring with itself.
The bot is edit-warring with itself at Suffix and will be reported at the edit-warring incident page if immediate action is not taken. Jc3s5h (talk) 21:40, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
- Or... we could just fix the problem that was causing the bot to act up. The actual page was Suffix (name). Rich, please review the history and make sure that something like that can't happen again (check that "Date" is a parameter name and not value before changing it's casing (e.g. you could check that it is preceded by a pipe, etc.)) - Kingpin13 (talk) 21:53, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
- Hm, the old AWB version had code for "date=date=" - I will continue re-inventing the wheel. :) Thanks for your help.Rich Farmbrough, 12:01, 12 July 2011 (UTC).
- Thanks for the note. Rich Farmbrough, 12:03, 12 July 2011 (UTC).
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Apparent violation of restrictions, and a number of errors in AWB edits
Rich Farmbrough, edits like these[14][15][16][17][18] seem to be in violation of your editing restriction: "indefinitely prohibited from making cosmetic changes to wikicode that have no effect on the rendered page".
Any reason why in this edit you once change "pmc" to "PMC", and once "PMC" to "pmc"? Either leaving it alone, or changing them consistenly, would have been better.
In this edit, you change "TV" to "television" inside the title field of a cite template, thereby "correcting" the official title of that page. Text inside such template should usually be left alone.
In this edit, you "correct" the word "eles" to "eels", even though "eles" is correct in this case. Similarly, in this edit you change "Mehet-weret" (another name of Hathor) to "Mehet-weren't", which is funny but wrong.
Please try to get your error rate on AWb edits down. Fram (talk) 13:37, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the note. Rich Farmbrough, 13:56, 12 July 2011 (UTC).
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Latest
1. The next category to be added to Wikipedia:List of monthly maintenance categories given month will be the 100th.
2. If you have added all templates from #Templates_for_User:SmackBot then I think you can archive #New_monthly_categories.
3. I boldly made that edit to Template:Update after, as I suggested in #Issue_6, and you can archive that one also.
4. Which leaves me with only one issue I am curious about, at #Future_categories. If I were an admin, I'd try that, but I can not make edits to fully protected templates. Debresser (talk) 17:03, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not worried about future categories too much but it can be done. Rich Farmbrough, 17:14, 12 July 2011 (UTC).
Helpful Pixie Bot
Hi Rich. Little blip in the above. Check out the edit she made here.
Not sure why she is whipping out the | , but sure it's just a quick tweak :-) Best wishes Haruth (talk) 19:45, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
- Take note that TagUpdater function of AWB does it right so this is not an AWB bug. AWB now fixes "Date" and "dates" to "date". Check Wikipedia:GENFIXES#Dated_tags_.28TagUpdater.29 for more. By giving feedback to AWB on common issues will reduce bugs caused probably by complicated regexes which keep reappearing in bot's code. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:51, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
- AWB is not being used here. Rich Farmbrough, 22:10, 12 July 2011 (UTC).
- Fixed, thanks. Rich Farmbrough, 22:10, 12 July 2011 (UTC).
Wouldn't be possible that you check TagUpdater's code and create a similar one in Perl? -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:41, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
- Probably is similar. I don't like the way AWB is coded, it is extremely clever, extremely object orientated, and extremely (to me) obscure. I didn't want to touch (or even have a copy of) the source, partly because I knew I would get accused of doing certain things (which I was), partly because I didn't want to learn another computer language (which partly happened), and partly because I didn't want to get into another time sink, and only did so because I was forced by an admin to patch the source or be blocked. Nor is a minor bug that affected one edit really a reason for a total re-write of my code (that I didn't want to write in the first place, but again was forced to by circumstances you are familar with), nor do I have time for that. Rich Farmbrough, 08:30, 13 July 2011 (UTC).
Russian templates
I just happened to walk into a problem with three related templates in the Russian Wikipedia when I looked up an article about a certain actress. The problem expressed itself in various redlinked categories. Posted an editprotected request, and now wait for my fixes to be implemented. It's fun to use my experience here on other wiki's as well. Debresser (talk) 03:24, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Edit-warring with yourself? Reverting to wrong versions against Anomiebot?
Why did you need 12 edits (5 by Pixie, 7 by yourself) to correct a simple error, and to change month-day format to day-month format (which, as far as I know, is normally not allowed: first editor preference is kept, not changed, without a very good reason)? You reverted your bot twice at the end to achieve absolutely nothing[19]? Very strange...
You were also reverting corrections made by other bots, like here. You eventually left both articles in a correct state, so no problem there, but it still is strange to see you make such edits. Fram (talk) 07:39, 13 July 2011 (UTC)