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I brought this up at [[wp:ani]] but it's not that relevant. (Fine details of sort are important, but not my main point, I think we can live with any alphabetical ordering - especially when cat contents tend to group similar items anyway..). The issue is that your bot (and others?) appears to be acting only on recent or new pages (based on experience). It would be reassuring to know that this bot or another bot is applying the changes systematically starting at [[Aardvark]] and working up to [[Xylophone]].. |
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Does the bot do that ?, and if not can there be one please (I think I explained why at [[Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Minor_technical_question]]). Just mark this section "done" if the issue is definitely already addressed, and a solution exists and has been implemented. Thanks.[[User:Sf5xeplus|Sf5xeplus]] ([[User talk:Sf5xeplus|talk]]) 16:21, 1 October 2010 (UTC) |
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:Well - yes and no. I have a BRFA for diacritics in biographies, and I have done all those pages. I did have a plan to do exactly what you suggest - and not just for diacritics - and for the excellent reason that starting at Aardvark means not breaking any ordering as you go through (if I remember correctly) but there was one extremely vociferous critic that sapped the energy out of the whole thing - believe it or not you can't change a space on WP without ''someone'' objecting - possibly me! However: what would be possible, if a little hard, would be to do it on a category by category basis: automatically identifying categories where an "out of order" (lets call it an ''O3'') occurs and correcting all members. And of course setting default sorts for pages with diacritics only would also probably be acceptable. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 16:39, 1 October 2010 (UTC). |
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::ok thanks. I'll be back (or get Yobot to fix it) if a similar problem occurs; now I've mentioned the probably of that becomes infinitely unlikely. Problem not resolved, but probably solved. |
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::As for systematic bot A to Z diacritic work - maybe wait a bit and suggest again. I can supply +1 !vote.[[User:Sf5xeplus|Sf5xeplus]] ([[User talk:Sf5xeplus|talk]]) 17:00, 1 October 2010 (UTC) |
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Back in July you were a model of efficiency using AWB to strip out {{tl|Italic title}}. Just curious - not to seem demanding, I hope - would your technical abilities and/or old-school industry be sufficient to the job of restoring those templates where removed, in the wake of [[Wikipedia_talk:Article_titles#Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment:Use_of_italics_in_article_titles|this discussion]]? [[User:Wareh|Wareh]] ([[User talk:Wareh|talk]]) 01:59, 3 October 2010 (UTC) |
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:Was it as recently as July? And I can't remember being very thorough about it although I try. |
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:Not to restore, specifically (although it wouldn't be that hard), but to install for, for example, all ships, novels or whatever the consensus is. |
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:Incidentally it would have been good to have been involved in the discussion - you may have missed that I was replacing or proposing, at one point (maybe back in 2009), more specific templates - I forget the names but effectively {{Tl|Novel title}} or similar. This allows policy to flip-flop without having to edit a zillion articles. I was also installing "Italic title" (I proposed a specific name for that I think) on taxon pages, the temptation of projects to build the formatting into infoboxes is very large - I see the ships are going down that channel? - but misguided because 1. not all articles will have the infobox 2. it then becomes very difficult to use the infobox without italics 3. it is not clear from the page source how an "effect" is achieved - newbarrier. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 07:27, 3 October 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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::Topic specific templates also allow automatic processing of standard exceptions for example "HMS ''Midgard''" instead of "''HMS Midgard''" if that is needed. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 07:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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:::The connection to you only just occurred to me as I manually changed a couple of articles on books whose italic titles you had removed. I'm sorry if this news of the discussions was not timely (and I did in fact know nothing about your previous template proposals), but I hope even this belated information about the change in policy may be useful in the hands of someone who clearly knows a lot about templates, automatic processes, etc. I take it you are suggesting that {{tl|Italic title}} could perhaps be routinely added according to ''categories'', e.g. [[:Category:Books by date]]. The problem is that even "books" is too narrow: [[:Category:Works by author]] and [[:Category:Works by date]] are really only ''slightly'' too broad, but they include a lot of non-"books" (by WP category) whose titles should be italicized in running text. Most everything in [[:Category:Ancient Greek works by author]] and [[:Category:Philosophical works by author]] (areas near and dear to me) should be italicized, but I suspect many of them are not categorized as WP "books." So, if more specific templates were to be developed, I'd suggest that {{tl|Novel title}} is way too narrow: even {{tl|Book title}} has coverage issues for the relevant range of works. |
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:::You've already lost me with some of the technical issues you raise, but book titles (more or less) are where I'd really love to see automated changes in equal or greater volume to the previous italic-removals. Do you see a good chance of achieving that? |
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:::Here's what may be the most practical idea I can come up with. If the article title appears in the lead <nowiki>'''''Like this'''''</nowiki>, isn't that the best criterion for applying {{tl|Italic title}} (or DISPLAYTITLE for longer titles that break that template)? This seems to me to apply ''perfectly'' the new policy at [[WP:AT]], which is simply, "Use italics when italics would be used in running text." |
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:::If you think that's a useful avenue, perhaps you can take it to [[WP:AT]] or the appropriate technical forum where such things get implemented? Or I can at your suggestion: but I am very inexperienced on the technical side. [[User:Wareh|Wareh]] ([[User talk:Wareh|talk]]) 15:01, 3 October 2010 (UTC) |
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::::* No criticism was intended. Yes I miss lots of discussions, and end up "sighing" some of the time - but I really couldn't keep up with them all anyway - this one seems to have come to an acceptable conclusion, although I'm not ''sure'' I agree with it, I have always found this issue tricky, and, of course non-critical (unlike invisible capitals in template names <joke />). |
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::::* The ' ' ' ' ' idea is great - cuts to the chase - in would include ' ' too, since that probably means that the bolding was forgotten. |
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::::* It would probably be suitable for a [[WP:BRFA]] - I have a bit of a backlog there right now. |
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::::''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 15:18, 3 October 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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:::::I'm glad that sounds useful--it really only occurred to me in the course of replying to you here. So does "backlog" mean you think you'll pursue that eventually, or would it make more sense for me to go to somewhere like [[WP:BOTREQ]], and if so, with or without stopping by [[Wikipedia talk:Article titles]] first? (The policy at [[WP:AT]] is plain enough, but I don't want to step on any toes in initiating action on that scale.) Sorry if this is asking for too much hand-holding, but I'm only slowly learning the ropes of all this behind-the-scenes work. [[User:Wareh|Wareh]] ([[User talk:Wareh|talk]]) 15:47, 3 October 2010 (UTC) |
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::::::No it's fine, I'll get a BRFA in presently. I'm just trying to streamline the way I deal with it - although the average response time of the BAG is long. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 16:06, 3 October 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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:::::::I'll drop you a note when it's there, and you can mention it at other venues to gain input. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 16:07, 3 October 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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::::::::Thanks. You are a true Wikipedia public servant! [[User:Wareh|Wareh]] ([[User talk:Wareh|talk]]) 13:57, 4 October 2010 (UTC) |
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Hi, did you correct those Burmese infobox errors afterwards? Can you move all of the Gare de... in [[:Category:Railway stations in France]] categories to ...... railway station. There is consensus to do so at [[WP:Trains]]. They should be in english.♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#000">Dr. Blofeld</span>]] 12:34, 6 October 2010 (UTC) |
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E.g [[Gare de Colmar]] should be [[Colmar railway station]].♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#000">Dr. Blofeld</span>]] 12:35, 6 October 2010 (UTC) |
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:See [[#Burma]] .. let me know. Yes that's not hard, when I get back about 5pm I'll get on to it. |
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:: [[:category:Paris Métro]] should not be a sub cat of Paris railway stations as this puts rolling stock into a station category. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 13:03, 6 October 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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[[Image:Train wreck at Montparnasse 1895.jpg|250px|thumb|Gare Aero d'Montparnasse]] |
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OK Gare de, Gare du and Gare d' I take it are fine to move, how about: |
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*[[Gare Maritime de Cherbourg]] {{Done}} |
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? ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 13:08, 6 October 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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Mmm I'd go with: |
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*Gare Maritime de Cherbourg = [[Cherbourg Maritime railway station]] |
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*[[Gare Maritime de Dieppe]] = [[Dieppe Maritime railway station]] |
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List [[User:Rich Farmbrough/temp98|here]]. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 17:57, 6 October 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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::Hang on a moment - I'm new to this but can't find the consensus for change described above. (Yes I tend to favour the ''Gare de ..'' title obviously.) |
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::Don't look at [[:Category:Railway stations in Germany]] either :) . Lot's of stuff like [[Mannheim Hauptbahnhof]]. |
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::Particularly there is an objection to things like [[Gare d'Avignon TGV]] are in fairly common use in English, as are others. I'm worried that if you bot this it will make a mess eg consider [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8353277.stm Gare du Nord].[[User:Sf5xeplus|Sf5xeplus]] ([[User talk:Sf5xeplus|talk]]) 18:16, 6 October 2010 (UTC) |
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:::Look on the talk page - specifically Manheim Hauptbahnhof and Gare du Nord are mentioned as exceptions. I don't think even if I was "botting it" I could affect the BBC pages... Or perhaps you mean the content of pages? There is no intent to do a search and replace (As far as I know.) ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 18:31, 6 October 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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:::::Yes funny - I linked to the BBC to show an example of common usage.[[User:Sf5xeplus|Sf5xeplus]] ([[User talk:Sf5xeplus|talk]]) 18:38, 6 October 2010 (UTC) |
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::I'd also suggest (can that be ''demand'') that the ones moved be moved back. This [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Trains#Railway_stations]] discussion hasn't really established a consensus for such a big change. Also despite being an English word too, I don't feel that 'maritime' is the correct English translation, possibly 'marine' is better, but fundamentally its usage is specific to the name - a literal translation probably won't make much sense. Although not English the French names satisfy [[Wikipedia:Article_titles#Deciding_an_article_title]], especially recognisability. This definitely seems to have been an error in your judgement in honesty.[[User:Sf5xeplus|Sf5xeplus]] ([[User talk:Sf5xeplus|talk]]) 18:27, 6 October 2010 (UTC) |
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:::Of course you can Revert (using "undo" - not roll-back if you have that) - then go and Discuss - its part of the BRD cycle, although with a month elapsed form the discussion, it's not that bold. Just drop me a note to let me know which bits if any you revert - or if you wish discuss then revert if necessary. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 19:05, 6 October 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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::::I might have but as I'm not objecting to the other changes they exceptions with "Maritime" would seem out of place. There seems to be a few examples in english of the usage that's been proposed/changed ("xxx maritime station"), I'm not sure if "xxx harbour station" or "xxx port station" is better or worse. Must do more research before acting.[[User:Sf5xeplus|Sf5xeplus]] ([[User talk:Sf5xeplus|talk]]) 19:16, 6 October 2010 (UTC) |
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::::'''Note''' Just to make it clear - I've changed my position (on naming) from object to neutral - you can ignore the above.[[User:Sf5xeplus|Sf5xeplus]] ([[User talk:Sf5xeplus|talk]]) 19:50, 6 October 2010 (UTC) (Thanks for the note: RF.) |
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Will try to get back to this today or tomorrow. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 11:52, 8 October 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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Anyway far be it for me to stand in the way of progress - if the station name is simply "gare de xxx" then I don't object to "xxx station" etc. I'm not sure about the ones with "maritime" in. |
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'''However''' you did get the capitalisation wrong, its <u>r</u>ailway <u>s</u>tation (lower case) eg [[King's Cross station]]. (ok so some USA stations use ''Railroad Station'' with caps, but that's for another day). [[User:Sf5xeplus|Sf5xeplus]] ([[User talk:Sf5xeplus|talk]]) 18:51, 6 October 2010 (UTC) |
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:Yes that is what was suggested, and normally I love WP's "down" style, and regularly take Dr Blofeld out the back and threaten him with his own sharks for using capitals in things like "Splurgle District". However thinking about it for a moment will reveal that it is not that simple. If the name is "Gare d'" then Station is part of the name. Though I argue elsewhere that, for example Kingston University is also Kingston university, so "downing" is a fairly safe operation, where as "upping" is not (Manchester universities <> Manchester Universities for example), in this case I think the cap is justified. I am open to persuasion however, more: if you can get consensus from WP T on either style I will go with that quite happily . I would indeed ''personally'' prefer just "Station" or "station", since to my ear "Railway" is the default. Other varieties of English, however, may vary. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 19:01, 6 October 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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::[[:Category:Railway stations in Belgium]] could be an example of precedence - 1/2 of it speaks French of a sort (or maybe that's wrong too). As an additional capitalisation of ''gare'' is not always done (except at the beginning of a sentence) eg [http://www.lepost.fr/article/2009/01/09/1381197_la-gare-de-caen-renovee.html] [http://regionsdemocrates.fr/2010/02/15/regionales-le-modem-bas-normand-bloque-en-gare-de-caen-ouest-france/], also http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=+site:www.lemonde.fr+le+monde+gare [[Le Monde]] uses lower case if not leading a sentence. eg [http://www.lemonde.fr/a-la-une/video/2007/03/28/affrontements-a-la-gare-du-nord_888738_3208.html] No idea what the official French ministry of spelling and culture position is on this controversy.[[User:Sf5xeplus|Sf5xeplus]] ([[User talk:Sf5xeplus|talk]]) 19:13, 6 October 2010 (UTC) |
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:::That's interesting. I am, sadly, an expert in neither Walloon (as I remarked earlier today, funnily enough) or railway stations, although there is a fascination about abandoned underground stations that probably speaks to either a deep character flaw, or to much "Quatermass" as a child. (Hobbs End I think? OR was that the good Doctor?) The place for discussion is is most likely the WikiProject. You can cut and paste this wholesale if you wish. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 19:18, 6 October 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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::::Or maybe I should take your opinion, my doubts, and the talk page suggestion as consensus for lower case? IDK. I'l think on't. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 19:19, 6 October 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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:::::I've left a note at [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Trains#Capitalisation_of_french_railway_stations]] and on Blofeld's page too. I can let you know (though I've suggested others post here since I'm fairly certain this is a non-controversial thing already decided). I can let you know. <small>the reason I'm hassling you about this is because I'm under the impression that you have 'thousands' of station articles to name change..? maybe that's not the case</small>[[User:Sf5xeplus|Sf5xeplus]] ([[User talk:Sf5xeplus|talk]]) 19:34, 6 October 2010 (UTC) |
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::::::Thanks. It's about 400 - see the list I mentioned. I was planning on creating redirects ''to'' the Gare du Nord articles - an of course anyone could move back specific items. Oh and yes, re: Le Monde, French capitalisation differs from ours for proper nouns (e.g. [[Académie française]]) but that's about as far as my knowledge takes me. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 19:49, 6 October 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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There seemed to be no objection to moving the pages to lower casing e.g Rouen railway station. These really should be moved as Gare means nothing to most non French speakers. I personally prefer the Railway Station capitalised but consensus at WP:Trains seems to be lower casing. "railway" station is necessary as "station could refer to bus station, tram/cable car station or even a scientific research station.♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#000">Dr. Blofeld</span>]] 20:41, 6 October 2010 (UTC) |
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:Thanks for the notes, will try to get back to this today or tomorrow. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 11:52, 8 October 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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It occurs to me that any redirect that is categorised ([[Wikipedia:Categorizing redirects]]) excluding those which only have categories which are subcats of [[:Category:Wikipedia redirects]] should always be printworthy redirects ([[Template:R printworthy]]).. |
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Any chance of a bot for that?? [[User:Sf5xeplus|Sf5xeplus]] ([[User talk:Sf5xeplus|talk]]) 14:05, 9 October 2010 (UTC): |
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:Yes, but probably better to either ensure [[:Category:Unprintworthy redirects]] is in the appropriate redirect templates, and the rest would be printworthy by default? ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 14:08, 9 October 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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::Maybe - in an earlier life I might have created various unprintable redirects (spelling and caps variations) that I haven't got on a watchlist and don't remember.. I haven't done that for years since I learnt better. |
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::Following on with the logic - a bot could "printworthy" all mainspace categorised redirects, and "not-printworthy" all other redirects not already having "printworthy". A few printworthy redirects might get missed but that's a user problem.. The final sauce would be to have a bot to tag "printworthy" any "unprintworthy" redirects if they are subsequently categorised in the 'mainspace'. |
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::That would categorise all redirects, with only minor printworthy omissions - the omissions could be manually caught by categorising with "bot categorised unprintworthy" - giving a much more easily human-checked list of possible bot errors. Once done maintenance should be minimal.. Hope springs eternal.[[User:Sf5xeplus|Sf5xeplus]] ([[User talk:Sf5xeplus|talk]]) 14:28, 9 October 2010 (UTC) |
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:::Yes I think there is something to that. I just changed [[20th Century Masters: The Millennium Collection: The Best of Rob Zombie]] to unprintworthy, it was the second one I looked at - and quite bottable. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 14:51, 9 October 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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Sorry if this is not the place to leave this, but this is mostly a feature request I think. In [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Seduction_lair&diff=next&oldid=385098505 this] diff, it would be nice if SmackBot would notice that there are duplicate tags and remove the duplicated tags. Would this be easy to implement? [[User:Devourer09|<span style="color:#CC2200">Devourer09</span>]] ([[User talk:Devourer09|<span style="color:#CC2200">t</span>]]·[[Special:Contributions/Devourer09|<span style="color:#CC2200">c</span>]]) 16:25, 12 October 2010 (UTC) |
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:I'm not sure how hard it would be, it depends on scope, I suspect that the main difficulty would be dividing the list up into remove and don't remove, dfor example, multiple Expand section, or multiple Citation needed tags are legitimate (but not adjoining). Simpler might be to limit it to tag [[knots (papermaking)|knots]], in which case it would be fairly easy. I'll submit a BRFA. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 16:31, 12 October 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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::BRFA submitted and in trial. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 02:12, 16 October 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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*[[William Rodgers, Baron Rodgers of Quarry Bank]] |
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*[[Wikipedia:Good article criteria]] |
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I've left a comment at [[WT:WP DNB#Bot_building]] about the new Magnus Manske tool in the area (Magnus put it together in a couple of hours after the meetup). I've never been exactly sure about the merits of importing text from Wikisource other than in an article: but I think the merits would be improved by a number of possible "added value" steps. One of those would be to take into account the output of this tool, and only import articles for the project to work on which come up as "none found" with that matching tool. I.e. remove or sort according to what the tool finds, which can be (a) no match, (b) very plausible match, (c) inconclusive run with numerous candidates none of which is a great fit, (d) > 50 hits. There is actually a good argument for first doing that sorting into four. The case (d) is one either for human intervention, or for another layer of matching attempt. Case (b) is the sort of stuff I'm going by hand, and invites work expanding stubs and adding the ext lk back. So anyway case (a) is the most fruitful at this point for an import. |
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And what else? Imported text should be topped-and-tailed in some way to make it more useful (will need a lead section, should finish with reference using {{tl|cite DNB}} and attribution using {{tl|DNB}}, both filled in with wstitle=[name as on WS, no suffix]). There is actually a lot of scope for stripping out parts of the article too: certainly the [references at end in small] sections, and with more intelligence much of the inline refs between parentheses. NB the use of small caps within parentheses for author names, which should be a clue. |
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[[User:Charles Matthews|Charles Matthews]] ([[User talk:Charles Matthews|talk]]) 13:18, 26 October 2010 (UTC) |
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==Risk list bot== |
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I would love to see the BLP risk list turned into an ongoing bot. We could manage it as an ongoing queue by having the bot keep all the previous hits with context in a local file or DB on the backend. |
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* [[Bob Smithinson]]: accused of an '''affair''' with his |
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After this hit, "riskbot" would keep this in a local file or db, and then would filter it out of subsequent runs, context included. That way if the affair gets added back in with slightly different context, we'd get another warning. It would take all the "new hits" and append them on the bottom of the running queue page. As people check the hits, they'd remove them from the page. It's O(n^2) on the number of hits, but scrubbing one set of lines with another is pretty inexpensive, since it's just simple equality. Let me know what you think. [[User:Gigs|Gigs]] ([[User talk:Gigs|talk]]) 01:13, 30 October 2010 (UTC) |
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:It's worth doing I think. The time consuming part at the moment is actually accessing all the articles, thought they are mostly small. There's ways to optiminze this away however. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 01:45, 31 October 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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==[[Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs#Authentical plugin?]]== |
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Yes, it is still there. I suggest we continue this on our talk pages(or you can add me in Runescape, as i also seen you on the rswiki) so do you know what to do to fix it?[[User:Joeytje50|Joeytje50]] ([[User talk:Joeytje50|talk]]) 20:39, 3 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:Yes, i am on the list, as the error for Joeytje50(not on list) is "Joeytje50 is not enabled to do this" while the error for Bot50(on list) gets the error "The password you provided is incorrect. (an authentication plugin rather than MediaWiki itself rejected the password)" And i asked Cook Me Plox, and i talked about it on the irc, and he doesn't know what the problem is.[[User:Joeytje50|Joeytje50]] ([[User talk:Joeytje50|talk]]) 20:53, 3 November 2010 (UTC) |
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::Hmm.. what to do with this? Needs some tech attention at Wikia I guess. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 10:19, 18 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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==Bibliographies== |
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This is just a personal opinion, mind you. Like I said, I am, rather slowly, assembling bibliographies of the various geographical areas of the earth. As they would deal with things like the local flora, fauna, people, culture, and the like, they could also serve as the basis for things like, for instance, [[Bibliography of South American military history]], which would be a selection of books about the military history of that area drawn from the bibliographies of the main states/regions themselves. |
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That will not however include such things as the sciences, or philosophy, or the major religions, and certainly not off-world topics like astronomy. They would probably need to be created entirely separately. |
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My own basic choice would be to maybe have others create bibliographies for the sciences, business, and other topics that don't have clear geographic ties. |
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I would think the items to be included would best include separate books/works on the topic that have been reviewed by academic journals and other reputable specialist magazines, and/or included in books or articles of bibliography of that topic. |
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There are obviously questions regarding how long to make these bibliographies, and that's a separate matter entirely. The bibliography of physics, like the bibliography of Christianity, would be potentially endless. For such broad topics, maybe the best way to proceed would be to look at the various extant reference works, like encyclopedias, that deal with the topics, and to start include only those works which are included in the bibliographies of the articles in those encyclopedias. That would be a start, anyway. [[User:John Carter|John Carter]] ([[User talk:John Carter|talk]]) 17:15, 7 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:The bibliography of physics should probably include some well known wide ranging texts, ''Weidner and Sells'', ''Richards, Wier, Zehrs and Zemansky'' I think are two, the ''vade meca'' of various fields, seminal works, and key references (''Handbook of Physical Data''?) and cross references to detailed, bibliographies of mechanics, relativity, gravitation, string theory, etc... ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 12:57, 9 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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==Up-to-date list to bypass redirects to banners?== |
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Where to do I find it? -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 12:30, 9 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:Hhm time for a new one. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 12:49, 9 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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::[[Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Yobot 17]] -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 22:12, 9 November 2010 (UTC) |
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Any list? -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 00:48, 15 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:Thanks for the list. Great job on that BTW. I did notice a couple things that I wanted to mention though. |
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:#There are a few projects that are missing redirects as well as some projects missing (such as trains, LGBT studies, MILHIST and Biography) |
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:#There are a few projects that you are changing to redirects (I dont think we should be changing to redirects except maybe for MILHIST, Biography and the like since they dont have to same nameing convention) |
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:#I recommend setting them as minor edits. Personally I would rather just make the change and be done but I think that a lot of folks are going to kick up afuss if we do these relatively minro edits without doing something more significant at the same time. |
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:#I think we should setup a collaboration somewhere (maybe where its at now, not sure) so that we can all work on getting the whole list of projects with redirects. Its a huge undertaking and theres no reason why we shouldn't all share in the pain of building the list. --[[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko|talk]]) 14:43, 15 November 2010 (UTC) |
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Rich. In addition to there being no mention of WPBiography and WPMILHIST in the lists here are some of the things I noticed on the list that I think should be changed: |
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I changed these (and some others) to point to the correct project page rather than a redirect |
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#<nowiki>{{\s*(WikiProject[ _]+Wikipedia[ _]+Saves[ _]+Public[ _]+Art|WikiProject[ _]+WSPA|) *([\|}\n])</nowiki> |
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#<nowiki>{{WikiProject Wikipedia Saves Public Art$2</nowiki> |
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#<nowiki>{{\s*(WikiProject[ _]+WikiProject[ _]+University[ _]+of[ _]+Arkansas|UARK) *([\|}\n])</nowiki> |
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#<nowiki>{{WikiProject WikiProject University of Arkansas$2</nowiki> |
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#<nowiki>{{\s*(WikiProject[ _]+DC|WikiProject[ _]+District[ _]+Of[ _]+Columbia|WikiProject[ _]+District[ _]+of[ _]+Columbia|WikiProject[ _]+Washington,[ _]+D\.C\.|WPDC|WikiProject[ _]+Washington[ _]+DC|WikiProject[ _]+DC) *([\|}\n])</nowiki> |
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#<nowiki>{{WikiProject District of ColumbiaC$2</nowiki> |
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I added to the list I have and I recommend adding them to you |
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#<nowiki>{{\s*(WikiProject[ _]+LGBT[ _]+studies|LGBTProject|LGBT Wikiproject|LGBTProject|WP LGBT|WPLGBT|WikiProject LGBT|WikiProject LGBT Studies) *([\|}\n])</nowiki> |
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#<nowiki>{{WikiProject LGBT studies$2</nowiki> |
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#<nowiki>{{\s*(WikiProject[ _]+Trains|TrainsWikiProject|RAIL|RR|Rail|TRAINS|TWP|Trains|WikiProject Train|WikiProject trains|Wikiproject Trains|Wikiproject trains) *([\|}\n])</nowiki> |
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#<nowiki>{{WikiProject Trains$2</nowiki> |
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#<nowiki>{{\s*(WikiProject[ _]+Dogs|DOGS|WPDOGS|Wikiproject Dogs|DOG) *([\|}\n])</nowiki> |
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#<nowiki>{{WikiProject Dogs$2</nowiki>--[[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko|talk]]) 01:37, 16 November 2010 (UTC) |
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==IPA dump search== |
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Hey Rich, |
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If you have the time, would you mind doing another search of the dump, as you did at [[User:Rich Farmbrough/temp14]]? I've run through that last list. (20 articles which I can't do on my own are all that's left.) |
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A couple things different this time: no article exclusions (I will simply have AWB ignore anything within templates, unless you can pre-parse those at your end), plus a couple extra characters we missed last time. (If you can search for pure diacritics, that would be even better; otherwise I've noticed some more common combos, such as β̞ i̯ u̯ e̯ o̯, plus another character, ‹ˁ› that is commonly mistaken for IPA ‹ˤ›.) |
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Thanks, |
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— [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 07:13, 10 November 2010 (UTC) |
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*What do you think of [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&redirs=0&search=%CB%81&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&ns10=1&ns14=1&ns100=1&title=Special%3ASearch&advanced=1&fulltext=Advanced+search this]? I'll have a look at making this scan a regular thing. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 09:47, 11 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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::Yeah, silly me. That worked fine. We missed β̞ last time, though, and if individual diacritics aren't possible, i̯ u̯ e̯ o̯ will probably turn up a good number of hits. — [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 06:04, 12 November 2010 (UTC) |
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::I'm doing my own search of the IPA ''letters'' (the first block in your search), so never mind about doing them again. However, AWB won't work w ˥ ˦ ˧ ˨ ˩ ꜛ ꜜ, which you included in that block last time. There are also a few new ones you didn't include and AWB wont' cover, if you can add them: ꜞꜝ ↗↘‖˕˔‿ and t͜ . Plus, of course, any diacritics, which AWB search doesn't handle well. |
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::Thanks!! — [[User:Kwamikagami|kwami]] ([[User talk:Kwamikagami|talk]]) 18:54, 12 November 2010 (UTC) |
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Please send the bot to [[ Oliver Hazard Perry]] and [[Three hares]]. Thank you for your help on [[Barber's pole]]. Thank you and happy editing. [[User:7&6=thirteen|7&6=thirteen]] ([[User talk:7&6=thirteen|talk]]) 19:55, 15 November 2010 (UTC) Stan |
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:happy to help. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 17:38, 16 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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==Thanks== |
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Thanks for getting back to me. Sorry about the e-mail issues. I wanted to know if you would "follow" a new [http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/22278/dermatology-and-dermatopathology?referrer=UJ606vRKh44PRnJcRT7Q0g2 Dermatology and Dermatopathology forum proposal] I am working on. Also, perhaps you could vote as to which questions you consider on/off topic? In general, I have enjoyed collaborating with you on Wikipedia, and would love to have you following this project as well. Thoughts? ---[[User:My Core Competency is Competency|My Core Competency is Competency]] ([[User talk:My Core Competency is Competency|talk]]) 22:19, 15 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:OK, as I said I am not a dermatologist, or even medically qualified, so there is probably little I can do right away (although I am interested in question and answer from a human machine interface point of view). The main query I would have - which stops me from rating the questions - is whether "Proposed Q&A site for expert dermatologist[S] and dermatopathologists " is for expert-expert, public-expert, non-expert-expert or a combination. Also what constitutes an expert dermatologist? ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 07:39, 16 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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==Talk page banners== |
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I was going to give you a list of the changes I made but I noticed you were pinned down by friendly fire so I created a page under my user name ([[User:Kumioko/Talkpage]]) for the WikiProject Banner cleanup talk page edits. Im not sure if you derived the list manually or mined it somehow but as I make changes to my list I will update this page as well. I have also been adding comments about when I changed it and basically what I did (but I didnt for the first couple days). Please feel free to use or modify this list so that we can all benefit from enhancements we all find and make. If you dont have time or whataver just drop a note on my talk page about the change you want me to make andn Ill do it as soon as I can. My XML skills are minimal so I usually just append to the bottom and then resort when I pull it into AWB rather than trying to find where it fits alphabetically. Here are a few of the things that I have been modifying as I find them: |
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#Adding missing projects |
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#Adding additional redirects |
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#Changing the destinations to the actual project names (some were using redirects) |
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I actually perform a couple hundred other edits (like deleting empty unused fields (not things like priority or class but empty taskforces and the like), fixing parameters that say things like +, -, _, etc instead of =, adding listas if missing, changing listas title to listas key) but I cut those out for the sake of not mising things up. If you think I should inlcude these as well please let me know. --[[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko|talk]]) 04:20, 17 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:Yes that would be best as a separate chunk I think. I have to decide how often to generate the XML for talk pages, it takes probably 45 minutes, and will pick up all current redirects (barring the bugs you know about) provided the current list of targets is up to date. This would slow down the main rule generation too much, so I probably need to start soemthing to make it run daily or weekly, again a minor problem since I am running on 750M of memory for some strange reason. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 04:27, 17 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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::750 huh, I woulda thought you had more power than that..lol. Im not sure what the process is for generating the xml but is it possible to fix any of the things I mentioned automatically or would you have to go in and manually change them every time? How do you determine which WikiProjects to pull in? Is it based on most linked to or a category or something? In addition to the ones I mentioned above I also noticed a few of he WikiProjects on your list dont have any redirects at all so I disabled them in my list. --[[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko|talk]]) 04:36, 17 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:::Yes but if you want to line them up nicely... |
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{{ WikiProject_________Bacon|{{Break}} |
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Although perhaps removing the trailing space tampering would be good in those cases. In fact I can produce a smarter XML now, with a little effort. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 08:53, 18 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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:I have been manually culling through the list and I updated some more of the logic for the WikiProject Banner cleanup [[User:Kumioko/Talkpage|here]] with notes. I thought the notes might help you to refine the code. A summery of some of the changes: |
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#More projects added |
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#Some projects disabled that didn't have any redirects |
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#disabled some that dont appear to be valid. |
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#Added some other talk related templates. |
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Please let me know if you have any questions or suggestions. --[[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko|talk]]) 18:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:Thanks I'll have a look. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 21:32, 21 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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==Conclusion - try again== |
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OK, let's try and wrap up some recommendations: |
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# Don't use AWB on your main account. Use a different one, perhaps specifically for AWB. cf AWB rule 2. |
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# Every AWB edit is supposed to be manually reviewed (AWB rule 1). Don't forget that. |
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# AWB "stock changes" are permitted by the edit restrictions, including template redirects listed at [[Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Template redirects]]. But as that page itself notes, and as the edit restrictions emphasise, even those stock changes should not be made on their own, without any substantive changes to the page. AWB has settings to ensure that this doesn't happen, as discussed above - so use them. But in addition, see point 2. |
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On a related issue, it's not clear to me how redirects get into the AWB list. There is an [[Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Template_redirects#Consensus|unsatisfactory discussion here]]. Anyone? PS It would be good to see Smackbot up and running again, if you can sort out the coding to ensure it behaves in a manner consistent with the editing restriction. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] <sup>[[user talk:rd232|talk]]</sup> 18:41, 18 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:OK. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 09:27, 19 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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::Good. Thank you. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] <sup>[[user talk:rd232|talk]]</sup> 11:09, 19 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:::Are you planning on unblocking the bot anytime soon? ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 21:32, 21 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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==Note to self== |
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Need to check on enzymes. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 10:39, 18 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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==Burma== |
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Hi. What's the chances of you being able to use your tools to help with dabbing for Burmese settlements. Check out [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Burma (Myanmar)/Township templates]] and [[User:Dr. Blofeld/Burma#Repeated places names]]...♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#000">Dr. Blofeld</span>]] 15:57, 21 November 2010 (UTC) |
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What I'll do first is draw up all of the templates. Once that is done Abok should be linked inside two different township templates when currently it is just Abok and so. Most of them do not even have dab pages...Once I've drawn up the templates hopefully you will be able to read the what links here and run something... [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Ahlaw example:Ahlaw]. Perhaps you have something which will be able to read the ... Township links and generate dab pages like [[Ahlaw]] with [[Ahlaw Paungbyin]] and [[Ahlaw, Tamu]] linked. Bets thought to wait until I've created all the templates so the links can easily be accessed in the what links here.♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#000">Dr. Blofeld</span>]] 17:09, 21 November 2010 (UTC) |
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What I envisage is a script which reads .... Township , e.g Ahlaw being linked in the template named Tamu Township and extracts the name and dabs them e.g as Ahlaw, Tamu. It would need to generate pages and also correct the existing links in the templates. Might need BAG approval. I've also proposed it to Plastikspork. Perhaps you could contact him and decide the best way to do it. Meanwhile I'll continue making the templates after I've stubbed some of the few missing township articles for Bago region..♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#000">Dr. Blofeld</span>]] 17:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC) |
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==Diacratics in talk page banner templates== |
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Not sure if you knew or if there is anything that can be done about it but I have noticed in almost every case when the WikiProject Banner template contains punctuation or diactratics it breaks. Two example are WikiProject Pokemon and WikiProject Children's literature. In both cases and others like them your script stopped after it got to Pok and Children. --[[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko|talk]]) 17:31, 22 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:Yes I did know, but not about those examples. Couple of others I either fixed up or the non-alpha redirect was orphaned. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 17:33, 22 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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::For the diacratic examples like the é in Pokémon is the \ for regex the right identifyer in regex or is there something else I need to do to identify those? --[[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko|talk]]) 16:40, 23 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:::I also wanted to mention that I found a few redirects that look like this: Template:WikiProject:Rowing. I think we should do a sweep and find these rogues and wipe them away. In every case I have found so far there were no articles that linked to them. --[[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko|talk]]) 18:54, 23 November 2010 (UTC) |
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::::Yes I agree. I have done a couple like that. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 19:07, 23 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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:::Needs a smarter regex is all. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 19:06, 23 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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==''The Signpost'': 22 November 2010== |
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==Date to the maintenance tags== |
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Hi, I want to run a bot on huwiki which adds dates to the maintenance tags, like your bot does it here. Can you tell me if it is a pywikipedia script or not? Can you upload it for me? Thanks, --[[User:Deni42|Deni42]] ([[User talk:Deni42|talk]]) 20:21, 23 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:No it's [[WP:AWB]] , the main functionality is now built in. There is a certain page that lists the templates to be dates and it s then part of General Fixes. It may "just work" or you ay need to ask for the functionality to be added for hu:. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 23:35, 23 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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==BRFA== |
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I currently have a BRFA open at [[Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/KarlsenBot 6]] for dating maintenance tags, in which your input has been requested. Is this a task you intend to continue running? [[User:Peter Karlsen|Peter Karlsen]] ([[User talk:Peter Karlsen|talk]]) 23:32, 23 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:Yes it certainly is. There are about 4 bots approved for the task, and having more available - "do no harm" - and even if two runn at the same time the worst is a few edits of the kind that I am forbidden to make, but which don't really matter.. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 23:35, 23 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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==[[Olena Onufriv]]== |
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Hi Rich, just letting you know that although you declined a PROD from this page, it's been speedied since, and again blatantly recreated. I've done all the possible WP:BEFORE and found this subject to be a non-notable career starter. and I've put a new CSD on it. If you don't agree, feel free to decline it, but it will still probably have to go to AfD. Cheers, --[[User:Kudpung|Kudpung]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 10:24, 24 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:Well, its often hard to ref even mainstream artists from these places, and though the refs were poor they did at least show product existed, but I won't loose any sleep over this one, either way.. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 14:23, 24 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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==Norway== |
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Hi Rich. A while back I began adding infoboxes to Norwegian villages, mostly unreferenced stubs lying around from 2006 which were created by Punkmorten (Geshicte). Given that he won't so much as make the tiniest edit to Norwegian geo articles these days, somebody has to do it.Basically it just adding an infobox with the location info county etc and a pin map like [[Kjelvik]]. I was wondering if you could copy the that infobox and use some sort of script to add infoboxes (and copy the coordinates from the bototm of the page into the infoboxes to the rest of the villages by county of the [[:Category:Populated places in Norway]]. So far I've done Finnmark and Sog. Browse [[:Category:Villages in Akershus]] for starters for example.. ♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#000">Dr. Blofeld</span>]] 16:57, 24 November 2010 (UTC) |
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What's troubling you Rich? I also need your help with [[User:Dr. Blofeld/Country year templates]].♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#000">Dr. Blofeld</span>]] 15:42, 28 November 2010 (UTC) |
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==Respond eh? See voo play? :p== |
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Hi Rich. You may want to comment at [[Wikipedia_talk:Contribution_Team#Going_all_out_with_the_backlogs_thing|this discussion]]. Actually, it would be great if you could. :) [[User:OlEnglish|<font size="5">œ</font>]][[User talk:OlEnglish|<sup>™</sup>]] 19:41, 24 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:Commented. Will attempt to revisit later. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 22:40, 25 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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==Question about a bot== |
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I have a question about a bot but Im not sure if its possible or if it already exists. Since FEMTO bot seems to have similar logic I thought I would ask you. I have recently stumbled across a few articles in the last few days that fall under WikiProject US but have unanswered comments. The problem as I see it is that its nearly impossible to actively monitor every article in WPUS manually. Here is my idea: Would it be possible to make a bot that would, once a week or so scan through the list of articles and drop a note on the talk page for WPUS with something like "The following articles for this project have unanswered comments older than 10 days". I think 10 days is a reasonable time to give for folks to answer. If they havent anseered it by then they probably won't IMO. Im not sure how many comments that might be but it might actually be necessary to list them in a subpage and then link that to the talk page. Any ideas? Thanks --[[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko|talk]]) 22:21, 25 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:Do you mean on /comments pages? What is an "unanswered comment"? If you can define that then it's do-able. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 22:26, 25 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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:That sounds like a great idea, if it can be made to work! As to how: perhaps a talk page with only one user (not adding wikiproject banners); or a section with only one comment in it? Or what about simply copying the most recent comment to a project page, once that comment is 10 days old? Then someone can look at the project page and tell from the comment if it's likely to need a response. With easy links to the full discussion, it would be quick to check that if necessary, and if it needs no further input, it can be removed from the project page. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] <sup>[[user talk:rd232|talk]]</sup> 22:38, 25 November 2010 (UTC) |
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::That is the problem, the more I think about your idea the more I think that its not only the easiest and most feasible RD232, but also probably the most useful (too bad there is no project watchlist). I thought it might be possible but didn't know how to go about it myself and judging by the comment that just got added other projects would be interested as well. Here are a couple of ideas that I had, none of which I admit are particularly reliable: |
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::#Using the edit summery somehow. (like if it says something like /* Question about a bot */ reply) |
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::#Looking at the actual talk page and if the comment has a : or * under it. (Indicating it had been replied too) |
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::#Using the UTC info and If a section had been added in the last ten days and another UTC Date time appeared in the same section but later. |
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::A couple comments in general |
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::#What to do if the article has more than one comment in the last X # of days. Probably should just list the most recent. |
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::#Probably should ignore bot edits (but maybe not) |
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::#How to differentiate between actual comments and just cleanup edits or the additional of templates and banners and the like. --[[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko|talk]]) 00:24, 26 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:::Found something that applies here. I posted an Idea to the VP Idea lab about a watch list for WikiProjects and I got this in reply from User Dispenser so it looks like there is a tool we can use for this but they still don't completely answer the question/problem: |
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:::::"There are several methods already. Some projects create a list of all pages and simply use [[Special:RecentChangesLinked]] to monitor it. [[User:Tim1357]] created a [[tools:~tim1357/cgi-bin/wikiproject_watchlist.py|tool]] for project banners. However, from what I've seen with the former method, their simply not enough users watching them." --[[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko|talk]]) 14:05, 26 November 2010 (UTC) |
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==FemtoBot 6 project task== |
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I would like to add [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Algae]] and [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Veterinary Medicine]] to this bot's project updates. How do I go about this? --[[User:Kleopatra|Kleopatra]] ([[User talk:Kleopatra|talk]]) 03:18, 27 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:Added. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 09:46, 27 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Algae/Recent_changes |
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* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Veterinary_medicine/Recent_changes |
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:''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 10:15, 27 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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::Could you also add [[Wikipedia:WikiProject United States]] please. This seems fairly close to what I had asked about above. --[[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko|talk]]) 14:06, 27 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:::Ah, good. I thought it was close but not close enough. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 15:06, 27 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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:::[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject_United_States/Recent_changes Here.] ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 15:13, 27 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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::Thanks, Rich. --[[User:Kleopatra|Kleopatra]] ([[User talk:Kleopatra|talk]]) 15:47, 27 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:::Yes thanks. This is a big help. Would it be possible to do it for talk pages as well? --[[User:Kumioko|Kumioko]] ([[User talk:Kumioko|talk]]) 17:28, 27 November 2010 (UTC) |
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::::Uh. I suppose so... ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 17:42, 27 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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==DYK nomination of Francis Wingfield== |
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[[Image:Symbol question.svg|25px]] Hello! Your submission of [[Francis Wingfield]] at the [[Template talk:DYK|Did You Know nominations page]] has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath '''{{T:TDYK|Francis Wingfield|your nomination's entry}}''' and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! <!--Template:DYKproblem--> [[User:Materialscientist|Materialscientist]] ([[User talk:Materialscientist|talk]]) 11:18, 28 November 2010 (UTC) |
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==SmackBot copy edit category== |
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Richard, Why is Smackbot removing [[:Category:Wikipedia articles needing copy edit]] as it did [https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=Chess&action=historysubmit&diff=399387003&oldid=399374865 here]? Regards, [[User:SunCreator|SunCreator]] <sup>([[User talk:SunCreator|talk]])</sup> 02:48, 29 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:Because these categories should never be stand-alone in an article, they should be part of a template. When they are explicit they are usually left behind form a template that someone has "substed". ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 05:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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==Rearranging references again== |
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SmackBot is rearranging references again. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indian%20giant%20squirrel&diff=399546377] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Australian%20federal%20election,%202010&diff=399546000] I undid these edits once, thinking maybe it was just bad settings yesterday, and the bot made the same broken edits today. — Carl <small>([[User:CBM|CBM]] · [[User talk:CBM|talk]])</small> 17:41, 29 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:Yes it's not the settings, it's the version of AWB. I have restarted using the broken version, so that should not happen. That version should be clear in the contribs history/edit summaries. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 20:17, 29 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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==''The Signpost'': 29 November 2010== |
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==Villages, North Cyprus== |
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Hello, I wondered if I could ask you for help? Some time ago someone started a stub for all the villages of North Cyprus. The problem is that they used the Greek names, which are today historical (they have not been used since the war in 1974). Today the Turkish names are used. Hence, as I understand it, according to [[WP:NAME]] (see the discussion on [[Gdańsk]] vs [[Danzig]]) the Turkish names should be used in the articles (Please correct me if I'm wrong). |
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I have started moving some of the villages of the [[Kyrenia District]] -however, it takes for ages for me to do so. I would very much appreciate some help. Thanks, [[User:Guestworker|Guestworker]] ([[User talk:Guestworker|talk]]) 01:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:Is there evidence that the Turkish names are used in the English speaking world? ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 19:21, 30 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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::Hi, you can look at any guide-book in English of "North Cyprus" or "Northern Cyprus" (Books which are published in the English speaking world) and you will see the the Turkish names are used. Thanks, [[User:Guestworker|Guestworker]] ([[User talk:Guestworker|talk]]) 06:53, 1 December 2010 (UTC) |
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==17th Test Squadron== |
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Hi |
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Regardining the information at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/17th_Test_Squadron ... |
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our squadron graphic has changed. How do I get a new graphic update on the page? |
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Ronald J. Martwick |
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17th Test Squadron |
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Space Innovation and Development Center |
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719-567-6134 |
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ronald.martwick of schriever.af.mil <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/199.31.3.196|199.31.3.196]] ([[User talk:199.31.3.196|talk]]) 17:31, 30 November 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:replied by email. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 19:22, 30 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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==dear rick== |
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long ago, you commented on my edit to ace doubles. |
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writing to yo about a huge problem for me with wiki: it appears (see url below) that people are repackaging wiki content and selling it. I personally, am not going to do one darn thing for wiki if this is allowed; that is my personal bottom line - do you have a feeling ? if you agree, "we" - the people who don't like this - need to speak up, or wiki really will die |
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regars[[User:Cinnamon colbert|Cinnamon colbert]] ([[User talk:Cinnamon colbert|talk]]) 19:01, 30 November 2010 (UTC) |
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http://www.amazon.com/Zeta-Potential-Lambert-M-Surhone/dp/6131060002/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1291143235&sr=1-5 |
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:Yes, it is a little dubious, the way they bundle articles chosen automatically. I am leaving a review of the book, this is the best response. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 19:13, 30 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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::The same group of editors seem to have produced a wide range of Wikipedia-based books (click on one of them on Amazon to see the other titles) - 140 pages about a card game, etc! [[User:PamD|PamD]] ([[User talk:PamD|talk]]) 20:48, 30 November 2010 (UTC) |
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:::More and more weird: the "product description" for the card game book http://www.amazon.com/Raise-Roof-Card-Lambert-Surhone/dp/6132929452/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1291149972&sr=1-5 is exactly the article at [[Raise the Roof (card game)]] - so what else is there in the book on the rest of the 140 pages? White space? [[User:PamD|PamD]] ([[User talk:PamD|talk]]) 20:52, 30 November 2010 (UTC) |
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::::I'm not buying one to find out! ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 20:57, 30 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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:::There's about 4 or 5 organisations doing this. Business model: it costs them nothing, they print on demand, Amaozn gives them free marketing. Main problem for us, reputation, volunteer disincentive, and people trying to cite these books via Google books! ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 20:54, 30 November 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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==Disable this bot on "lists"== |
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The bot is repeatedly asking for cites and references on the [[List of Aircraft]], which is not right. You shouldn't be putting references on wikipages that are merely lists of other wikipages. Is there any way to turn this darn thing off in that application??? --[[User:Raymondwinn|Raymondwinn]] ([[User talk:Raymondwinn|talk]]) 08:22, 1 December 2010 (UTC) |
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:Hi, thanks for your message, SmackBot does not generally add tags, but merely dates those that are already there. Regards, {{#if:|''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 12:31, 1 December 2010 (UTC).<br /> 12:31, 1 December 2010 (UTC)|''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 12:31, 1 December 2010 (UTC).<br />}} |
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::Note that the person who added the tags had an edit summary of "cn; completed tagging of redlinks in the G section of the page; many more sources are needed for many other claims)" ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 12:29, 1 December 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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==[[:Category:BLP articles proposed for deletion by days left]] doesn't seem to be working right== |
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Hi, |
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I noticed that some articles seem to have the wrong number of days left in [[:Category:BLP articles proposed for deletion by days left]]. It looks like articles that had the BLPPROD template added today are currently showing up as having 1 day left. Since I think you were the one who created that categorization, I wanted to let you know so hopefully you can fix whatever isn't working. [[User:Calathan|Calathan]] ([[User talk:Calathan|talk]]) 22:13, 1 December 2010 (UTC) |
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:Hmph. Yes. I assumed that there would be between 0 and 9.999999999 days left. Looks like I was wrong and 10 gets sorted with 1. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 22:52, 1 December 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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::I made a cosmetic change and it all came right. I can only blame category lag - there was a bug the day I implemented it. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 22:58, 1 December 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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==Edit count list== |
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Rich, please take a look [[Wikipedia:List_of_Wikipedians_by_number_of_edits#List|here]]. I don't see the list, only this date stamp: 05:06, 01 December 2010 (UTC) I tried to fix it, but I don't think it's supposed to work that way. -- [[User:BullRangifer|Brangifer]] ([[User talk:BullRangifer|talk]]) 23:22, 1 December 2010 (UTC) |
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:The actual list sits at [[User:MZMcBride/Sandbox 3]]. Guess that got clobbered. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 23:26, 1 December 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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::Sorted, there was an "onlyinclude" around the timestamp. Dropped a note to the botop. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 23:31, 1 December 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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== Edit to VM article on 09/28 == |
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Hi, I had noticed that you changed to Capitalization on Cite on the references on [[Van Morrison]] article on [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Van_Morrison&action=historysubmit&diff=387476094&oldid=387314305 Sept 28, 2010]. I started using the Capitalization form myself but in the meantime, I have not found any other instances of the capital letter being used. If it shouldn't be this way will you change it back? Thanks so much. [[User:Agadant|Agadant]] ([[User talk:Agadant|talk]]) 15:52, 2 December 2010 (UTC) |
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:It is somewhat disputed, but the consensus seems to be that it doesn't matter, but that I shouldn't change them in either direction. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 06:20, 3 December 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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::Well, like YAH! Don't matter a bit since the preprocessor changes that first letter to a cap unless nocaps is set globally, like for instance on wiktionary, or the 'magic' word ({_{_{"lcase:"}_}_}... iirc) is specified locally. (Hey there Rick! Long time, no...) <b>[[User:Fabartus|Fra]]</b><font color="green">[[User talk:Fabartus|nkB]]</font> 13:14, 3 December 2010 (UTC) |
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==STOP== |
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Please stop editing my page. |
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They took out everything at the bottom, which is not advertising, just general information. |
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== On a BOT or AWB note... == |
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Working the [[Mongol invasion of Europe]]... ''I just removed a ton-a-bunch of '''unref taggings''''' in [[1229]]-[[1242]] and likely one or two more around the [[1730]]-[[1740]] period of the [[Conejohela War]]. Just so happens you made [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1227&action=historysubmit&diff=326940129&oldid=325015940 this] edit about the same time as the person who'd tagged these summation (ALMANAC?) pages (and reminding me of your miserable existence! lol), so what's the skinny. Looks to me like that was an organized effort given his summation, and that a bot or AWB was employed. |
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Logic in my head says these pages make no sense to have local cites-- they provide links to detailed articles, not wordy explanations. Cites would make maintaining them a whole lot of trouble, vice a quick hit and run edit to update the year's details. Being summaries... I think someone's BOT ought to make sure they all be current untagged... and if necessary untag them as I was and will continue to do. if and when. |
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Note the ''balanced reaction and sentiment conveyed oh so diplomatically'' in my boilerplate following: <g> |
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<x!--<nowiki>{{unreferenced|date=November 2009}}</nowiki> summary page dum dum, see linked pages for cites ---> |
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Nice to see ya again. // <b>[[User:Fabartus|Fra]]</b><font color="green">[[User talk:Fabartus|nkB]]</font> 14:27, 3 December 2010 (UTC) |
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:Likewise. Erik9bot did unref tagging/catting. Due to some "resistance" at BRFA it ended up putting them in an Erik9Bot specific cat, which is just crazy... But then it turned out that Erik9 was a banned (blocked?) user... so the bot stopped making it even more crazy. I did a conversion job to "proper" unref tags, but even there there was some resistance so I had a special "invisible" tag for stubs.. a few months later it got merged into the main unnref tag. And now it;s all as it should have been form day 1. <chuckle> ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 21:56, 3 December 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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== Smack bot complaint == |
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Hi Rich, please stop using Smackbot for changes such as [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Decompression_sickness&curid=61048&diff=400563432&oldid=399480030 this] - it's an utterly worthless edit and a complete waste of server time. I have my own preferences for how to format refs in articles where I'm the principal contributor, and it doesn't match up with your preferences - in this case I don't space "=", but I do place a space before "|" as that usually produces sensible wrapping for me when editing refs. It wouldn't matter so much if Smackbot did this for every parameter, but to do it just for the 'date' parameter, while leaving the others in my preferred style is just plain odd. --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS|talk]]) 00:55, 5 December 2010 (UTC) |
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:That is slightly odd, I tend to not put spaces around the date "=" I thought, I'll have to look at this in more detail. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 04:13, 5 December 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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:: Thanks, Rich, much appreciated. Cheers --[[User:RexxS|RexxS]] ([[User talk:RexxS|talk]]) 14:10, 5 December 2010 (UTC) |
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Rich, am I going nuts, or are you [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Decompression_sickness&curid=61048&diff=400563432&oldid=399480030 here] doing a template redirect which isn't on the AWB standard list? [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] <sup>[[user talk:rd232|talk]]</sup> 01:31, 5 December 2010 (UTC) |
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:Nope no template redirect, just a little list formatting rule,that I need to yank out. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 04:13, 5 December 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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::OK, thanks, please do. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] <sup>[[user talk:rd232|talk]]</sup> 12:17, 5 December 2010 (UTC) |
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:::Same thing happened [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Suit_%28clothing%29&diff=prev&oldid=400589870 hare] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Surveying&diff=prev&oldid=400590055 here] (checking only SmackBot's 20 most recent edits). [[User:Fram|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram|talk]]) 13:05, 6 December 2010 (UTC) |
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Um, why are you using AWB on your main account when you have Smackbot? [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=S%C3%A9kou_Berth%C3%A9&diff=prev&oldid=400636543] [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] <sup>[[user talk:rd232|talk]]</sup> 14:14, 5 December 2010 (UTC) |
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:Small one-off jobs are better run manually than waiting for BRFA. See the previous section for a BRFA that's taken a month to get to trial status, which I would probably have been able to code and run same day. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 18:04, 5 December 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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::I didn't (and don't, but if I'm wrong, please correct me) think a BRFA would be needed just by virtue of doing it from a different user account; that doesn't make sense to me. I'm thinking of [[WP:AWB]] rule 2. They may be small jobs, but you do so many, they would be better run from an alternate account. [[User:Rd232|Rd232]] <sup>[[user talk:rd232|talk]]</sup> 19:35, 5 December 2010 (UTC) |
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Checked the last ten edits of tonight, and again two of them are unnecessary and unwanted bot edits: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Municipal_bond&diff=prev&oldid=401005883 this] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fair_trade_coffee&diff=prev&oldid=401005835 this]. [[User:Fram|Fram]] ([[User talk:Fram|talk]]) 09:15, 7 December 2010 (UTC) |
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==UK Community Notice - IRC meeting== |
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Dear Wikipedian, |
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This is the first of what will hopefully be a regular notice to help bring together the UK community so that you can be involved in some amazing things. To kick things off, there will be a UK community IRC meeting at '''1800 UTC, December 7, 2010''' to discuss the future growth and developement of Wikimedia UK. Without huge community support and involvement, the chapter cannot be successful and to get the most out of it, get involved. |
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''For information on the community IRC meeting please '''[[wmuk:Community_IRC_meetings|go here]]''''' |
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More to come about: |
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*Wikipedia 10th Anniversary Events |
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*1st Annual UK Wiki-conference |
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*Trustee interest meeting - an event for those community members with even just a fleeting interest in becoming trustees of Wikimedia UK. |
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'''Many Thanks''' |
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:Joseph Seddon |
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:''[[User:Seddon]]'' |
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Where did you get your information from when you previously edited the [[OFWGKTA]] discography i.e. Free Sweatshirt, The Sweaty Martian, Wolfpack etc.? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Howl5|Howl5]] ([[User talk:Howl5|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Howl5|contribs]]) 14:29, 5 December 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I didn't. Check the history more carefully. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 18:48, 5 December 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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==[[Apollo 13]]== |
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Hi Rich, |
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There is a section in the above article headed 'Root cause analysis'. Since RCA is a technical term, I changed this to '[[Root cause analysis]]' so that there was a page link available to the 'Root cause analysis' wikipedia page by clicking the section heading. Smackbot has removed the page link and returned the heading to just being plain text. Can you help me understand the benefit of that please? My understanding of wikipedia guidelines is that links to other pages should be used. |
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Any help is much appreciated. |
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Best regards, |
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[[User:Socheid|Socheid]] ([[User talk:Socheid|talk]]) 19:09, 5 December 2010 (UTC) |
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:The [[WP:MoS|Manual of Style]] says ''To avoid [[WP:ACCESS#Links|accessibility problems]], headings should not normally contain links''. Exactly what the accessibility issues are I don't know, but I would imagine they are related to screen-readers. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 14:48, 6 December 2010 (UTC).<br /> |
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== Re: [[Wikipedia:Database reports/Unlisted stub types]] == |
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I like what you did with this report on the stub templates. Can it be updated? Can a similar report be run for the Categories? Finally, could these be automatically set to update, say, once a month? or even once a quarter? [[User:Dawynn|Dawynn]] ([[User talk:Dawynn|talk]]) 20:30, 6 December 2010 (UTC) |
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== ''The Signpost'': 6 December 2010 == |
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