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::Hello Paul, by all means! Leave it be until you are free. Nothing is more important than your own life and family. I'm not sure what "AE" is, but if I can be of any assistance I am at your disposal. Cheers, Eli [[User:Bigeez|Bigeez]] ([[User talk:Bigeez|talk]]) 00:26, 25 September 2019 (UTC) |
::Hello Paul, by all means! Leave it be until you are free. Nothing is more important than your own life and family. I'm not sure what "AE" is, but if I can be of any assistance I am at your disposal. Cheers, Eli [[User:Bigeez|Bigeez]] ([[User talk:Bigeez|talk]]) 00:26, 25 September 2019 (UTC) |
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:::{{re|Bigeez}} the latter will you learn about AE, the better. It is a nasty thing, but nothing terrible.--[[User:Paul Siebert|Paul Siebert]] ([[User talk:Paul Siebert#top|talk]]) 02:54, 25 September 2019 (UTC) |
:::{{re|Bigeez}} the latter will you learn about AE, the better. It is a nasty thing, but nothing terrible.--[[User:Paul Siebert|Paul Siebert]] ([[User talk:Paul Siebert#top|talk]]) 02:54, 25 September 2019 (UTC) |
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Welcome! Hello, Paul Siebert, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
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before the question. Again, welcome! Arnoutf (talk) 20:49, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
Talk:Pontius Pilate
Please heed the comments about your edits at the above talk page, especially those after Break 2. You simply don't have consensus and need to drop the sticki. Consider this a formal warning. Doug Weller talk 12:16, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- Doug Weller, this is the first time in my wikilife when the discussion in the talk page space where I am presenting well sourced arguments and commit no personal attack or other actions that may be seen uncivil causes a formal warning. I doubt you have a ground for that, especially taking into account that you are cannot be considered an uninvolved admin. Consider withdrawal of your formal warning. If you are acting not as admin, please make it clear, otherwise it looks like you are abusing your admin rights. If you are acting as an ordinary user, feel free to report my behaviour following a standard procedure.
- Frankly, I would prefer you to join this discussion instead. It have already lead to some (although minor) improvements of the article, so I have a serious ground to believe this discussion should be continued. Please, join our discussion if you have fresh arguments and sources. :-)--Paul Siebert (talk) 14:25, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- I noticed you left this post after you have been asked by another user. Whereas I am still believe you, being an involved admin have no right to issue a formal warning, your advice to take it to ANI was good.--Paul Siebert (talk) 14:41, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- Anyone can leave a formal warning, they do not have to be an Administrator. I don't consider myself involved and your diff certainly doesn't make me involved. Nor does my response to User:Ermenrich on my talk page. And I don't intend to get involved. I've given you what I think is good advice and a warning (although note I didn't suggest it was a final warning). I hope very much I won't have to take Administrative action but your suggesting that I'm abusing my Admin rights isn't going to affect what I do in the future. Feel free to complain about my warning at AN. Doug Weller talk 15:49, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- I already understood you were acting not as an admin, so there is no reason for any complains, thanks. I also understand that, since this article is not under DS, your prospective admin action may follow only after the ANI discussion. In that case, I am ready to present my arguments there.--Paul Siebert (talk) 16:08, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- I can't topic ban you, that's true. Admins never need an ANI discussion to block. Doug Weller talk 16:14, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- Admins are supposed to have a reason for a block, and the only legitimate reason is my lengthy posts. Since I already realized that the participants of this concrete discussion simply don't read them, I see no reason to continue making them, and I'll try other options. There is no other reason for a block, and I am experienced enough to deprive you of an opportunity to block me legitimately. I suggest you to stop this discussion, because this exchange is starting to look like a conflict between two users, which automatically make you a party. Instead, read my last post that I've just made on the Pilates talk page. I am interested to know your opinion.--Paul Siebert (talk) 16:30, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- I can't topic ban you, that's true. Admins never need an ANI discussion to block. Doug Weller talk 16:14, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- I already understood you were acting not as an admin, so there is no reason for any complains, thanks. I also understand that, since this article is not under DS, your prospective admin action may follow only after the ANI discussion. In that case, I am ready to present my arguments there.--Paul Siebert (talk) 16:08, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- Anyone can leave a formal warning, they do not have to be an Administrator. I don't consider myself involved and your diff certainly doesn't make me involved. Nor does my response to User:Ermenrich on my talk page. And I don't intend to get involved. I've given you what I think is good advice and a warning (although note I didn't suggest it was a final warning). I hope very much I won't have to take Administrative action but your suggesting that I'm abusing my Admin rights isn't going to affect what I do in the future. Feel free to complain about my warning at AN. Doug Weller talk 15:49, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
July 2019
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. --Ermenrich (talk) 18:12, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- I have closed the discussion on this issue. Please read the results. -- llywrch (talk) 21:57, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
Jesus reading list
Hi Paul. here's a short reading-list on Jesus:
- James Dunn, Jesus Remembered, chapter 1-6
- Larry Hurtado, Lord Jesus Christ, chapter 1, Forces and factors
- Resurrection of Jesus; Quest for the historical Jesus, especially Demise of authenticity and call for memory studies; and Salvation in Christianity, especially Jerusalem ekklēsia and Paul
Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:58, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
recent work
Hi Paul, Whenever you’re freed up, have a look over on User talk page User talk:bigeez for guidance/input. Many thanks, Cheers, Eli 96.10.123.131 (talk) 17:15, 14 August 2019 (UTC) 96.10.123.131 (talk) 17:15, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
Re:Coll/Res
Message added 04:49, 17 August 2019 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Hello Paul, might have a look/see over on Coll/Res on my talk page, read-on following down through both Coll and Res, hope all's well, Cheers, Eli Bigeez (talk) 04:49, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
- Hello, Paul Siebert. You have new messages at Bigeez's talk page.Hello Paul, I wished for you and Nick-D to see what's necessary for the World War II site. If you think its apropos for Collaboration with the Axis Powers then so be it also. I you both might have a peek now ... no need to set anyone's teeth on edge along with any ritual humiliation. I believe it's important, however, in its entirety ... but, edit it in any way you see fit; or instruct me, and I'll do it and resubmit. Cheers, Eli Bigeez (talk) 19:43, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Message added 19:43, 17 August 2019 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.- Hello, Paul Siebert. You have new messages at Bigeez's talk page.Hello Paul Siebert (talk), hoping you and Nick-D might have glimpsed at the writup on Collaboration/Resistance for the World War II site? If you think it's content is ok, let me know, or if changes need to be made prior to posting it on Talk:World War II. No need to set anyone's teeth on edge along with any ritual humiliation. I believe it's important for readers to see it clearly as it is. Edit it in any way you and Nick-D (talk) see fit; or rather, instruct me, and I'll resubmit with edits. Cheers, God save the Queen, Eli Bigeez (talk) 04:04, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
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Hello, Paul Siebert,
I'm writing you about your statement at the Arbitration Enforcement board. Statements from editors are supposed to be limited to 500 words (Enforcement requests and statements in response to them may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs) and yours clocks in at 552 words using this tool which is used in arbitration cases. I'm not going to ask you to cut your statement UNLESS you decided to add additional content in response to other statements. Should you want to add any responses, please trim your original statement to stay roughly around 500 words. Let me know if you have any questions. Liz Read! Talk! 00:50, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you Liz Read! Talk!, will keep that in mind.--Paul Siebert (talk) 00:55, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
- Liz Read! Talk!, following your advise, I added a fresh response and trimmed the old one. It is around 650 words. I hope that is ok.--Paul Siebert (talk) 15:16, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
Re: updated C/R on your sandbox
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Hi Paul, I hope when you are free, review your User:Paul Siebert/sandbox.
It is with your guidance that we would be most helpful to completing the task, since besides you and Nick-D (talk) there are few and far between who possess the moral compass and are instrumental and measure up to editing my work. Cheers, Eli Bigeez (talk) 23:06, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
- Eli, I am somewhat busy with a nasty AE quarrel and real life problems, may I return to that in early October?--Paul Siebert (talk) 23:10, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hello Paul, by all means! Leave it be until you are free. Nothing is more important than your own life and family. I'm not sure what "AE" is, but if I can be of any assistance I am at your disposal. Cheers, Eli Bigeez (talk) 00:26, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Bigeez: the latter will you learn about AE, the better. It is a nasty thing, but nothing terrible.--Paul Siebert (talk) 02:54, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hello Paul, by all means! Leave it be until you are free. Nothing is more important than your own life and family. I'm not sure what "AE" is, but if I can be of any assistance I am at your disposal. Cheers, Eli Bigeez (talk) 00:26, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
Arbitration enforcement topic ban
The following sanction now applies to you:
You are topic-banned from everything related to the Eastern Front (World War II) (i.e. the Germany vs. USSR aspect of WWII) for three months. For the avoidance of doubt, this includes the reasons for the war, atrocities, etc., and also any continuation of your WWII-related conflict with the user My very best wishes in any forum, such as AE.
You have been sanctioned for the reasons provided in response to this arbitration enforcement request.
This sanction is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Eastern Europe#Final decision and, if applicable, the procedure described at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions. If the sanction includes a ban, please read the banning policy to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.
You may appeal this sanction using the process described here. I recommend that you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template if you wish to submit an appeal to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard. You may also appeal directly to me (on my talk page), before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard. Even if you appeal this sanction, you remain bound by it until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the appeal has been successful. You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you. Sandstein 19:50, 28 September 2019 (UTC)