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There's a page I want to split but I can't find step-by-step instructions on how to do it, to make sure that existing links point to the split-off page, etc.
- What's the page, and what's the kind of splitting you want to do? -- Drini 20:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- Irina Derevko, I want to split the section on Katya Derevko off onto its own page and make sure all the links which currently redirect to Irina get pointed to the new page.Otto4711 21:26, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- Also I would like to know how to insert the Character chart that's found at the bottom of the Irina page into the new page and how to add characters to the chart.Otto4711 21:34, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- What's the page, and what's the kind of splitting you want to do? -- Drini 20:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Firstly, take a look at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction).
I'm not advocating the splitting of the article - perhaps an Alias wiki (that deals just with Alias) is what you are looking for.
To do the split you just create the new article. You would need to check the "What links here" for the Irina Derevko page (available in the toolbox, under the search bar) to fix any links. The "Character chart" is a template available at Template:alias. Any change to the template will affect all pages it's used on - so discuss on the talk page first.--Commander Keane 22:35, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
OK, I give up
How do I add something to a category page, for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Fictional_technology
- To add a page to that category you do not edit the category page itself. You add [[Category:Fictional technology]] at the bottom of the article you want to add. Check out any article, eg Tai Nam Wan, to see how categories are added.--Commander Keane 07:36, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
TAR
Hello Otto...thanks for your note. I guess the 'issue' about Frankenberry is that there are multiple editors of the page all of whom don't recall this nickname. As I stated, I've just rewatched all the episodes (not because of this!) and don't hear it. If it is in there once, does that constitue a real nickname? If I am hearing Fran N' Barry but they said Frankenberry once...does that truly need to be in the page. I guess that will be a discussion point. As you might have seen I have reopened the discussion on the TAR discussion page. With regards to having to 'prove' this, all the other nicknames are easily recalled by multiple editors thus there wasn't a need to specify an episode/timestamp. Those nicknames were used continously in multiple episodes by multiple teams. KsprayDad 12:27, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
I added those comments you made about Claudia to the article, which could give us an indication of what could happen during the series' run, which means we could see more models with related LGBT ties or other personal issues. Robert Moore 18:36 (UTC) 26 June 2006
Production Staff
What production staff are you talking about that have appeared in 2 out of 3 hours of Treasure Hunters?TeckWizTalkContribsGuestbook 18:25, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- The medical guy in episode 2 and the rescue divers and other production people who were hovering around the Browns in Hawaii.Otto4711 19:42, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- And this amounts to two whole hours how?TeckWizTalkContribsGuestbook 19:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- There have been three hours of programming. Production staff appeared in hour one of programming and hour three of programming. I didn't say they appeared in "two whole hours" of the show. That doesn't even make sense.
- Production staff are also in TAR a lot. There are production people at a zipline which I think was in season 7. Another instince was season 9 when Fran was having a hard time bungee jumping. Also, the most obvious is also season seven when Brian and Greg flip their van and the camera guy is lying on the ground.TeckWizTalkContribsGuestbook 20:14, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- I didn't say that TAR staff are never seen on-camera. I said that the producers take pains not to break the 4th wall. See the trivia section for The Amazing Race where it talks about how TAR goes as far as digitally removing members of the crew in post-production.
- Production staff are also in TAR a lot. There are production people at a zipline which I think was in season 7. Another instince was season 9 when Fran was having a hard time bungee jumping. Also, the most obvious is also season seven when Brian and Greg flip their van and the camera guy is lying on the ground.TeckWizTalkContribsGuestbook 20:14, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- There have been three hours of programming. Production staff appeared in hour one of programming and hour three of programming. I didn't say they appeared in "two whole hours" of the show. That doesn't even make sense.
- And this amounts to two whole hours how?TeckWizTalkContribsGuestbook 19:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Honestly, I don't really care all that strongly about that particular item. I do think it's a somewhat significant difference between the two shows and it's worth including, and obviously I would prefer that it stay, but if it truly, truly bugs you so much to have it in the article then I'm not going to fuss if it gets deleted.Otto4711 20:25, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Reversion of special characters
Why when I edit articles do special characters (arrows, accented characters) sometimes suddenly spontaneously turn into question marks? See for example Treasure Hunters (TV series) in which a minor edit by me nowhere near any of them caused every arrow and accented character on the page to mutate. Otto4711 21:24, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- It's most likely the browser you're using, or the character encoding that your browser is using at the moment. Have you tried changing the encoding to Unicode UTF-8? --JD[don't talk|email] 21:45, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
What's up with this redirect -or- Here I thought I was being so clever
So I thought I would cleverly use an existing page to start a new article since the existing page was no longer necessary but instead I somehow both created the article and turned the existing page into a redirect which I can't get pointed to the right place. The Virgin Queen (television) should either be deleted or redirected to The Virgin Queen (TV show) but I can't make it happen. What am I doing wrong? Otto4711 12:57, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- The Virgin Queen (television) does redirect to The Virgin Queen (TV show). Repost a {{helpme}} if you can clarify your problem.--Commander Keane 13:01, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- Weird. It was pointing to the film page last night and today on two different browsers on two different computers. Oh well, thanks anyway. Otto4711 13:06, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- Just glancing over your talk page. You might have already been told this by now, but Wikipedia uses Squid cache servers which essentially hold a slightly-out-of-date copy of Wikipedia in a computer that stands between you and the database. So sometimes you will make an edit and it is accepted, but the cache server in the middle doesn't get the new information yet and it continues to present an old copy of Wikipedia to you. Next time it looks like you might be experiencing this, follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Purge and it should clear up. Later, — coelacan talk — 17:21, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
- Weird. It was pointing to the film page last night and today on two different browsers on two different computers. Oh well, thanks anyway. Otto4711 13:06, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Playing card symbols
Trying to insert card suit symbols into The Cincinnati Kid and it's not working. I used the notation in the article Yoshio Nakano as my guide and I thought I did it right, but apparently not. Otto4711 02:10, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- Looks like you need the semicolons: ♣ ♥ ♦ ♠ (or, ♣ ♥ ♦ ♠). =D Luna Santin 02:19, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Filing complaint against admin?
How does one file a complaint or grievance against a moderator who's breaking rules, being uncivil and making false accusations? Otto4711 21:45, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- The first thing you should do is bring it up with the administrator in question. I don't know what the situation is, but it could be a misunderstanding, or someone who is stressed and didn't really mean it and would apologize anyway. I would be happy to look at it. If it is very severe, or that has failed, bring it up at Wikipedia:Administrator's noticeboard/Incidents. You would need to cite URLs where the offending behavior can be found. —Centrx→talk • 21:52, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- This looks like a content dispute. Neither of you should be reverting; and it doesn't accomplish anything. Just talk it out on the discussion page. His comments here were uncivil, but admonishing people and threatening blocks is unfriendly and not productive. —Centrx→talk • 22:06, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
DYK
--Srikeit (Talk | Email) 18:59, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
The Heap
Good comics history, man! Kudos on your edits here! -- Tenebrae 04:48, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Comments
Otto4711-
- Thanks for the work on Male prostitution in the arts.
- I noticed that you removed comments on a few films... why?
- Please remember to use edit summaries.
Thanks and keep up the good work- NYArtsnWords 22:23, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Superhero television programs
One problem with your freshly created category is that some eligible items under the DC Comics and Marvel Comics subcategories are not about superheroes. MadTV (based on the DC Comics publication Mad) is not a superhero program. Men in Black (from a company owned by Marvel Comics) is not a superhero program. Doczilla 08:52, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Your edit to Wicked (musical)
Sorry about that, it's hard to detect it and figure out what's good and bad, I'll add you to the whitelist -- Tawker 20:40, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Smile!
Wel done on your recent edits to the Wicked article - I think there's still a lot to be done though!-- Flutefluteflute Talk Contributions 13:24, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Playboy Cyber Club Categories
I am sorry I missed the debate. I am not sure much consensus exists on Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_November_14#Category:Playboy_models. I was recently successful in AfUs for certain related articles. I believe you failed to adjust for underreporting on controverial topics (although you have no duty to do so). Self reported tax debts, marital cheating, masterbation and Playboy appreciation are all topics for which there is underreporting. All shows of support should be multiplied by some number like 4 or 5 because of the hesitence to place support for any playboy related topic on ones wikipedia record. Recall that although support voiced by wikipedia arguments for Playboy Online, Playboy Cyber Club and related articles will be minimal the online division of this entity is generating $50 million/year on monthly dues of between $8-$20. Someone must like it. I think the number of people who voiced support was a small fraction of the number in support. Further, I think there was significant contention to the deletion attempt. TonyTheTiger 17:41, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
comment of the day (uhh, my awards review process takes a week, see)
"Because only a jackass..." aaaaaahhhahahahaahaha you slayed me, Otto. It's a good thing I wasn't sipping my coffee when I read that. — coelacan talk — 06:58, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Death By Google - what a classic, by far the best Afd quote I have ever seen!! Keep it up ;-) RyanPostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 23:42, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Jason Bellini and Will Wikle pages
A heads up, as you've edited one and, I think, started the other -- both pages are completely devoid of sourcing, and one included alleged quotes that needed to be removed until they are properly sourced as per WP:V. If you're interested, I'd recommend you take a look and consider helping improve them? NYDCSP 20:22, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
CfD nominations
Looking at some of your CfD nominations (many of which I agree with), it looks like some people raise objections because you do not provide a complete justification. You may want to write in more extended justifications so that people understand the nomination better. You may also want to link to previous discussions on similar categories; links to closed discussions would be better than links to open discussions.
I hope these suggestions are useful. Dr. Submillimeter 10:46, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Image:Gabriel romero 2.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:Gabriel romero 2.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:
- Go to the image description page and edit it to add
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Alternatively, you can also choose to replace the fair use image by finding a freely licensed image of its subject, requesting that the copyright holder release this (or a similar) image under a free license, or by taking a picture of it yourself.
If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified how these images fully satisfy our fair use criteria. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on this link. Note that any fair use images which are replaceable by free-licensed alternatives will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Bob 16:04, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
- I have a question about the image that I've asked at the talk page. ShadowHalo 21:41, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
CFDs
Hey Otto4711 - We sometimes disagree on the CFDs but I wanted to say I appreciate you persistently making relevant points on the current LGBT-related CFDs. I'm really going to stay out of it as much as possible because I feel, strongly, that the CFDs are getting bogged down with a lot of people making nominations to make a point, or to implement their personal philosophies about the significance of particular identities. Nevertheless, even though I'm feeling frustrated with wikipedia process right now, I had resolved previously to give props to people when I could. Best, lquilter 04:32, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Invitation.
Hello, I saw your edits to Gay USA and would like to invite you to join WikiProject LGBT studies - we'd love to have you on board! Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 22:39, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
- Come on, you just voted on my AfD, you know you want to join... Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 21:33, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Searching for all categories with a common word in the name
{{helpme}} Is there a way to search for all existing categories based on a word or phrase in their names other than the leading words? Otto4711 07:12, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
- If I read that correctly, you can do that by only checking the category box at the bottom of the search page, like this. --h2g2bob 08:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Godzilla
Oops, I missed that one. Yes, it will be merged per precedent. >Radiant< 14:06, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
re: super-hero/villain team lists
Just on observation, but the forced cat sorting for these is for ease of use by putting the lists ate the "front" of the page.
To be honest, I'd just as soon see the lists removed from the team cats and just reside in the organization cats. I'm tempted to do that once the rename of the three organization goes through.
— J Greb 03:32, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
As goes the Thunderbolt Cat...
Since it's your nom there's a pair of umbrella cats you may want to look at and possibly include:
Category:New Warriors Category:X-Men
— J Greb 03:52, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
Don't delete articles without discussion
I'm talking about Makiko Hayashi (a Bond character). You didn't even move the article, just deleted. Don't do this EVER again. --HanzoHattori 18:51, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
And yes, it was a deletion - as you wiped out the whole article without movin, and yes, without discussion. I DON'T care what "bore" you. --HanzoHattori 19:12, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
You need a difference between merging and redirecting, and deleting and redirecting. And to discuss such things first (there are discussions on the mergings, wake up Neo). EOT. --HanzoHattori 19:23, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Also, STOP PERSONAL ATTACKS. You have a lot to learn how to use Wiki. EOT, again. --HanzoHattori 19:29, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
It's Time For Regis!
Otto, aside from Be Bold, there are stips to not remove the AfD banner from the page. Should I just redirect and nuke the AfD, or let it go? --Dennisthe2 20:53, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Proposal to delete "popular culture" articles
Hello Otto,
Look, I know you mean well by proposing to delete Piano in popular cultureand Piano wire in popular culture, but please be aware that in doing so you're making life harder for the editors, such as me, who work on the real articles on these topics (i.e. Piano and Piano wire). It is quite a nuisance to have to trim back all the silly contributions ("I saw X on this TV episode"), and sometimes it even gets you into revert wars. Life is so much easier, and everybody is so much happier, if you just provide a toilet article entitled "X in popular culture" into which people can dump their contributions. Yours sincerely, Opus33 03:41, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
AfD on reality nobodies
I saw your AfD on Carpenter, and would appreciate your vote on the following articles, which are also about reality tv non-entities.
Leonid the Magnificent , Rappin' Granny, Tyler MacNiven,Sarah Reinertsen,Ron Young,Kandice Pelletier, Alison Irwin,Fred Holliday,Kendra Bentley, Tyler Denk & James Branaman. --MacRusgail 03:26, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Category:Batman-inspired_heroes_and_villains
Hello Otto. You suggested making lists for Category:Batman-inspired heroes and Category:Batman-inspired villains at CFD. I've closed the discussion as delete after listifying. I wonder if you'd be interested in doing the listing? Quite a lot of the info is already in List of Batman pastiches (and maybe Batman in popular media). I could have a go, but I'm not really much of a Batman fan, and I'd be unlikely to do a good job! I've also left a note with User:Grace E. Dougle. Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:31, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot for that ultra-super-speedy-fixup. I'm still trying to get the hang of this CFD closing stuff, so if you see me do anything really [or even slightly] dim, please let me know! Cheers! Angus McLellan (Talk) 15:00, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Name changes
Please check out: Talk:Amazing Race 5 contestants. --evrik (talk) 23:05, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
AFD: List of films... US Marines
You have commented on the AFD discussion for List of films featuring United States Marines, the discussion can be viewed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of films featuring United States Marines.
Following support for my suggestion, I have done a userspace rewrite of the article at User:Saberwyn/Films featuring the United States Marine Corps, with the rewritten article in the top half and the current article with annotations as to their inclusion or non-inclusion in the rewritten list.
I would like to request that you review the rewritten article, and if you think it is appropriate, amend your stance at the AFD discussion. -- saberwyn 11:54, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
grab the rope!
The XfD Rescue Barnstar | ||
Hi Otto. =) Your very competent argumentation saved Category:Vegetarians from deletion. Thanks for being a CfD "first responder". — coelacan talk — 05:18, 26 February 2007 (UTC) |
February 2007
With regards to your comments on Template talk:Survivor contestants: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Saying "Sorry that your life is so empty." was uncalled for --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 01:44, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- There's a bit of a difference between bating and a personal attack. If you don't like my conduct, then you should report me. -- Scorpion 01:57, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Reporting disruption by editor
What is the proper procedure for reporting an editor engaging in disruptive conduct? Otto4711 02:02, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Hi. I am an administrator. What sort of disruptive conduct? Have you tried to resolve the problem directly with the editor you are concerned about? Newyorkbrad 02:24, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Want your opinion on something...
Found something during our spate of Comics related CfD noms that I need a second set of eyes on be for putting it up.
I checked the parents cats for the two subs for Comics creators by company. Marvel's (Category:Marvel Comics people) is pretty straight forward and should go. It's mostly execs, a few editors, and one artist. But Disney...
First it hits Category:Disney people, but the real bugger is the next parent up: Category:People by company... 58 cats.
Do we want to slowly eat through this or have a revisit of the "Show cast/actors" CfD?
— J Greb 20:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
- True. And very true about Disney. Right now I'll just worry about the comics stuff. Between that and the net works at least a framework can be shown for the more egregious cats. — J Greb 20:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Empty than delete
We're not supposed to remove categories until they are empty, there's several helpful bots that take care of the emptying bit. The format is pretty simple, just follow my lead ... all of the ones you have been doing will go under Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 January 25, since that is really the discussion that applies. We're just doing the follow up paperwork to the Jan 25 decision. -- Prove It (talk) 03:25, 3 March 2007 (UTC)