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:::I watch too many crazy articles, and various good faith editors drop me messages here that this article or that article needs watching. Of course, they're rarely fun. Well, Edmontosaurus was fun to read. [[User:Orangemarlin|<font color="orange">'''Orange'''</font><font color="teal">'''Marlin'''</font>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Orangemarlin|Talk•]] [[Special:Contributions/Orangemarlin|Contributions]]</sup></small> 05:04, 6 March 2009 (UTC) |
:::I watch too many crazy articles, and various good faith editors drop me messages here that this article or that article needs watching. Of course, they're rarely fun. Well, Edmontosaurus was fun to read. [[User:Orangemarlin|<font color="orange">'''Orange'''</font><font color="teal">'''Marlin'''</font>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Orangemarlin|Talk•]] [[Special:Contributions/Orangemarlin|Contributions]]</sup></small> 05:04, 6 March 2009 (UTC) |
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from [[wp:civ]]: ''"Incivility consists of personal attacks, rudeness, and aggressive behaviours that disrupt the project and lead to unproductive stress and conflict."'' this edit you made - [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAtropa_belladonna&diff=275467243&oldid=275464467] - certainly qualifies as incivility. please try to remain focused on the issues, and leave comments about the editors out of it. thanks. --[[User_talk:Ludwigs2|<span style="color:darkblue;font-weight:bold">Ludwigs</span><span style="color:green;font-weight:bold">2</span>]] 21:58, 6 March 2009 (UTC) |
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Edmontosaurus
Hi, OM;
Any interest in having a look at Edmontosaurus? It's a refreshing, low-controversy alternative to the everyday Wiki experience, but on the other hand it's not exactly a stub, either. J. Spencer (talk) 17:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- A low-controversy article????? NOOOOOOO. I read it over, and I'm not sure what I can add. I'm guessing it's ready for a nice FAC process! OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 21:38, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the read! If you think of anything later, I'm planning on waiting until after Deinosuchus has had its day at FAC before submitting. J. Spencer (talk) 00:03, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
ALCAT
Thanks for stepping up, I was getting a bit fatigued with the topic.LeadSongDog (talk) 16:18, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Who put in all this cruft? Unpublished letters? Abstracts from meetings where it was clear the article was never published? HUH? OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 16:20, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Mea summa culpa. A lot of it started at this and this list of papers from what look like reliable sources though the copies are hosted on a COI site. Because the bibliographic data on those lists was spotty, I brought much of it in as a work-in-progress, while looking for more reliable published versions and refining the citations. Many of them on the list turned out to be in reliable journals indexed on Medline. Some of the other journals not on Medline are supposedly on EMBASE, but I don't have access to check.LeadSongDog (talk) 16:55, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Don't worry. Some of the "letters" were unpublished correspondence between various individuals. I also ran across a letter that Pridgeon (is that his name?) wrote to the South African medical society or something. He quotes these things. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 16:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, User:Dr John Pridgeon has much the same list. He says he's behind ALCATSA.LeadSongDog (talk) 17:02, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- COI, I suppose! OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 17:31, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, User:Dr John Pridgeon has much the same list. He says he's behind ALCATSA.LeadSongDog (talk) 17:02, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Don't worry. Some of the "letters" were unpublished correspondence between various individuals. I also ran across a letter that Pridgeon (is that his name?) wrote to the South African medical society or something. He quotes these things. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 16:58, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Mea summa culpa. A lot of it started at this and this list of papers from what look like reliable sources though the copies are hosted on a COI site. Because the bibliographic data on those lists was spotty, I brought much of it in as a work-in-progress, while looking for more reliable published versions and refining the citations. Many of them on the list turned out to be in reliable journals indexed on Medline. Some of the other journals not on Medline are supposedly on EMBASE, but I don't have access to check.LeadSongDog (talk) 16:55, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Cardiology task force
Hi, i see you are a very active user, and for that i ask you for help to support me in starting the task force as the cardiology articles needs allot of working, and many articles are missing, please if you are interested to support me or help, do that on the proposal page Maen. K. A. (talk) 17:23, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
The continual sniping at Talk:Orthomolecular medicine is really boring and counterproductive to actually building an encyclopedia. There are enough editors there that it should be possible for the two of you mostly to shun interacting with each other without negatively impacting discussion. Would you be willing to try this? - Eldereft (cont.) 18:33, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
- Ummm?????? HUH????? I haven't been uncivil to him. And you know I can be quite uncivil whenever I feel like it. How about someone blocking him for a week or so. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 03:51, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- You have not been unCIVIL, but neither have you been particularly collegial. While I argued for your interpretation of MEDRS over that of MCP, I doubt that offering to mentor them in the guideline will be taken well; I am no sort of sociologist, that is just my impression. I am not asking you to smile and kowtow to insufficient sourcing - that would be dumb (I also think that willful abuse of sources should be blockable, but that is my own bit of fringe). Look at it this way - if a drive-by admin sees those personal attacks and no response, they are much more likely not to write it off as a problem with both editors.
- Then again, MCP already rejected my request, so big whatever. I wonder if there is anything interesting from those new personal comment redacted editors with whose interpretations of sourcing and weight I tend to disagree. - Eldereft (cont.) 19:41, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm collegial to those who don't try to push ideas that are bad for human health. You and I (and many others) edit for the long-term, and eventually the CAM-cruft pushers will disappear. And they'll be replaced by others, I know. MCP does not get or understand or even care about NPOV, RS, MEDRS, and/or anything else that makes a good article. I'm trying to help him, and it was in good faith. I'm hoping he's just misguided. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 20:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Pyroluria
While I am here, if you get a chance could you check out my merge of Pyroluria to Orthomolecular psychiatry to make sure I covered all the salient points in proportion due to their prominence? - Eldereft (cont.) 18:33, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Troll food missing an ingredient
I guess it's missing a "no"... :-) Cacycle (talk) 03:45, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
answer
Most people say yes or no.Prussian725 (talk) 18:04, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
- It's clear he doesn't want to talk to you, and I'd recommend you let it go. If you have something pertinent to say about an article, say it on the article's talk page. OM has a lot of pages that he has to deal with as a medical expert; he doesn't have the time or the inclination to debate with every creationist that desires it. Aunt Entropy (talk) 18:34, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
- You should read what Prussian says about science. You're right, if I debated every irrational creationist comment, I'd have to clone myself. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 19:05, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
- If you diluted yourself x100 thirty three times, each dose would be more powerful!!! . . dave souza, talk 20:17, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sorry if I offended anybody, I really wasn't trying to pick a fight.Prussian725 (talk) 20:31, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
- If you diluted yourself x100 thirty three times, each dose would be more powerful!!! . . dave souza, talk 20:17, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
- You should read what Prussian says about science. You're right, if I debated every irrational creationist comment, I'd have to clone myself. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 19:05, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag
In this edit you introduced an invalid <ref> tag; no text was provided for a ref named "rejectedclaim". SD (talk) 19:29, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
PS. I think I see what the error was; a later edit attempted a fix, but it was not the right fix. Hopefully everything is OK now. SD (talk) 19:36, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
civility (2nd notice)
These two edits here and here seem to be personal attacks on me, contributing little or nothing to the discussion or the improvement of the policy. please refrain from such comments. thanks. --Ludwigs2 21:55, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- ROTFLMAO indeed. Just how did someone with this block history get rollbacker anyhow?LeadSongDog (talk) 22:30, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- It's just revenge, because I made sure he got blocked on a couple of occasions. I'll need to point out the harassment to admins. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 22:34, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- Mentioning that he's been blocked 5 times is a fact. Sorry Ludwigs2. You crack me up, you'll be blocked in a week, given your past history. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 22:35, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- so just to clarify, your greater goal here is to get me blocked again? --Ludwigs2 00:15, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
- Man, you really don't understand Wikipedia. I have no power to block you. You retain that power yourself. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 00:53, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
- well, that's not what I asked, but I'll accept it as an answer. thanks. --Ludwigs2 00:56, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
- Man, you really don't understand Wikipedia. I have no power to block you. You retain that power yourself. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 00:53, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
- so just to clarify, your greater goal here is to get me blocked again? --Ludwigs2 00:15, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
- Mentioning that he's been blocked 5 times is a fact. Sorry Ludwigs2. You crack me up, you'll be blocked in a week, given your past history. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 22:35, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- It's just revenge, because I made sure he got blocked on a couple of occasions. I'll need to point out the harassment to admins. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 22:34, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
MSG comment
I'm sorry. That wasn't directed at you. I wasn't sure what Phil was getting at (and I agree with your reply to him—I assume he meant something else instead of "glutamate crystals"), so I unintended to reply to the original posts. It seemed to me that user was confused about a more basic point, so was replying to his theory that sodium might somehow turn good glutamate bad.
I had Ted myself; one of my favorite classes (I like the math in physical chemistry). Cool Hand Luke 00:03, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
- No kidding? Believe it or not, when I was at the U, Ted Eyring was teaching Freshman Chemistry. One quarter (the U was on quarters back then), Ted had to go on a sabbatical to NIH or something, and Henry Eyring taught the class. It was like a direct line from Einstein to Henry Eyring to me. I know I am far beneath those two in intellectual capacity, but it was one of the many highlights of my life! And of course, Ted is directly responsible for where I landed in life. That's a long and private conversation we might share someday. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 00:52, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
WP:AE complaint
Entirely peripherally, your name is mentioned in a thread I started at WP:AE, here. So it goes. regards, Middle 8 (talk) 00:19, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- Hi, actually it's not quite peripheral. ScienceApologist filed a report on Middle 8, asserting among other things that Middle 8 had been disrespectful of you in an edit summary. Middle 8 replied that you and s/he have the kind of bantering relationship where that's not a problem. I asked Middle 8 to seek your input to confirm that, since it appears to form part of Middle 8's claim that ScienceApologist's filing amounts to harassment and/or abuse of process. Middle 8 has now filed a second thread against ScienceApologist. I really don't know what your position on this matter would be, but matters are escalating and a word from you might help straighten things out and calm things down. Best regards, DurovaCharge! 00:31, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- Crap. Two people I like and respect are battling each other. Never good. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 01:19, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Why are my edits POV?
You reverted my edits in AIDS denialism claiming that they are POV. I request an explanation here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:AIDS_denialism#Two (if you please). I made three edits, all of which were NPOV, and you reverted all three of them. Why? -- leuce (talk) 19:34, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- Discuss it at Talk:AIDS denialism. NEVER discuss edits with me here. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 19:41, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Confused
I have not made any edits but I received some type of warning that I messed up a wikipedia webpage. I don't use a shared computer so I'm really confused. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.20.23.18 (talk) 22:43, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- Replied on User talk:199.20.23.18. Someone was acting out this morning, and their IP was reassigned to a new user, who was confused. - Eldereft (cont.) 23:37, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for all your hard work
Someone that edits autism related articles and watches out for quackery in places like the MSG article is a good human in my books. Thanks for all of your hard work. (I don't think people hear positive stuff often enough). Dbrodbeck (talk) 02:06, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Hey thanks. Just for the compliment, I'll be civil and nice for 24 hours to all POV pushing editors. Let me take several vicodin first. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 04:19, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Oh please don't go that far, though enjoy the voicodin...Dbrodbeck (talk) 04:52, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- I watch too many crazy articles, and various good faith editors drop me messages here that this article or that article needs watching. Of course, they're rarely fun. Well, Edmontosaurus was fun to read. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 05:04, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Oh please don't go that far, though enjoy the voicodin...Dbrodbeck (talk) 04:52, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
civility (3rd notice)
from wp:civ: "Incivility consists of personal attacks, rudeness, and aggressive behaviours that disrupt the project and lead to unproductive stress and conflict." this edit you made - [2] - certainly qualifies as incivility. please try to remain focused on the issues, and leave comments about the editors out of it. thanks. --Ludwigs2 21:58, 6 March 2009 (UTC)