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I've started a proposal to enforce neutral editing on Israel-Palestine articles, which could be extended to other intractable disputes if it works. See [[Wikipedia:Neutrality enforcement]]. I'd very much appreciate your input, if you have time. Best, <font color="green">[[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]]</font> <small><sup><font color="red">[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|talk|]]</font><font color="pink">[[Special:Contributions/SlimVirgin|contribs]]</font></sup></small> 08:15, 8 May 2009 (UTC) |
I've started a proposal to enforce neutral editing on Israel-Palestine articles, which could be extended to other intractable disputes if it works. See [[Wikipedia:Neutrality enforcement]]. I'd very much appreciate your input, if you have time. Best, <font color="green">[[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]]</font> <small><sup><font color="red">[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|talk|]]</font><font color="pink">[[Special:Contributions/SlimVirgin|contribs]]</font></sup></small> 08:15, 8 May 2009 (UTC) |
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== My career as a "Nazi" == |
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I've been accused of being a "Nazi" for the opinions I've expressed at [[Talk:Martin Luther]] (good example [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AMartin_Luther&diff=288577490&oldid=288492483 here], but scroll up from there for more of the same). The position that's supposed to make me a Nazi is: |
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# That Wikipedia articles should reflect scholarship on a subject. |
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# The [[Martin Luther]] article cites scholarship in which Luther is described as anti-Jewish, including a quote in which Luther approves of killing Jews. Further, the article cites scholarship asserting that Luther's writings appear to have been used by people who killed Jews, both in the decades just following Luther's death and in the 20th century by Nazis. |
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# WP article lead sections should reflect the highlights of the important information in an article. |
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# What the article says about Luther and his statements about Jews seems to be important enough to mention in the lead. |
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I've stated repeatedly that if scholarship is said to show something, Wikipedia articles should reflect that, or better scholarship should be used to refute it. I've also said that I'm no expert on Luther, so if better information is brought to my attention, I could change my mind -- I just want Wikipedia to reflect the scholarship on a subject, and I want leads of Wikipedia articles to reflect what those articles say. |
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But I've been restricted from posting at Wikipedia Review by the authorities there in part because the views I've just described can't be held by a normal person (unless I were Jewish). Therefore, I'm told, I must be a Nazi, hoping to make Naziism look good with Luther's endorsement of killing and persecuting Jews. That's the "reasoning". It didn't do any good for me to declare that I'm not a Nazi, or, for that matter, a supporter of the Ku Klux Klan, or anti-Semitic. |
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I'm posting this here partly for informational purposes, but mostly for amusement purposes. Thanks, Wikipedia Review authorities. I'm happy to discuss this with anyone, either here or, if they let me, at Wikipedia Review. -- [[User:Noroton|Noroton]] ([[User talk:Noroton#top|talk]]) 17:20, 8 May 2009 (UTC) |
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Cant believe I just said this
[1] Grsz11 17:32, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Obama articles/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Obama articles/Workshop.
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Iowa Barnstar
The Iowa Barnstar | ||
For your help in rescuing and fixing African Americans in Davenport, Iowa, I hereby award you the Iowa Barnstar. Bill Whittaker (talk) 17:21, 24 March 2009 (UTC) |
Civilization
One small step for man, one giant leap for TP :) Acroterion (talk) 00:25, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Hotel toilet-paper folding
The Oddball Barnstar | ||
I've never awarded a barnstar before, but I feel that your tremendous contribution to Wikipedia, civilization, and reality by creating the article Hotel toilet-paper folding (with sources, to boot) should earn you the coveted Oddball Barnstar. Regards, Jd027 (talk) 00:30, 1 April 2009 (UTC) |
The Oddball Barnstar | ||
Hotel toilet-paper folding is an absolutely delightful, quirky article. Well done! Matthewedwards : Chat 05:33, 2 April 2009 (UTC) |
I know you've already been given one, but two doesn't hurt, does it? :) Regards, Matthewedwards : Chat 05:33, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
- I was going to give you an Oddball Barnstar but two people beat me to it! The reason the article is getting attention isn't just its oddity -- plenty of articles are about odd things -- but how well-shaped and encyclopedic it is despite its odd subject matter. Kudos. --Boston (talk) 00:47, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
- But a question: Why is there a hyphen in the article title? The article Toilet paper doesn't have one. Does the hyphen appear when it's folded? --Boston (talk) 01:58, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Talkback
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the_ed17 : Chat 02:25, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Trout
Ow. But I think you're right, I was not exactly a voice of calm there. Thanks.--Tznkai (talk) 21:02, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Hotel toilet-paper folding
Shubinator (talk) 02:28, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Since nobody cared to let you know, I will: Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Queue 3: Hoax or WP:POINT or OK? --NE2 02:44, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Charles Brasch additions to XXXX in poetry articles
Hi, it seems that about a year ago you added references for Charles Brasch to the series of XXXX in poetry articles. It seems you made a consistent mistake in failing to wikilink the year correctly (e.g. here. I'm now going to correct them using AWB, but just wanted you to know for future reference. Thanks Rjwilmsi 11:49, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Neutrality enforcement: a proposal
I've started a proposal to enforce neutral editing on Israel-Palestine articles, which could be extended to other intractable disputes if it works. See Wikipedia:Neutrality enforcement. I'd very much appreciate your input, if you have time. Best, SlimVirgin talk|contribs 08:15, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
My career as a "Nazi"
I've been accused of being a "Nazi" for the opinions I've expressed at Talk:Martin Luther (good example here, but scroll up from there for more of the same). The position that's supposed to make me a Nazi is:
- That Wikipedia articles should reflect scholarship on a subject.
- The Martin Luther article cites scholarship in which Luther is described as anti-Jewish, including a quote in which Luther approves of killing Jews. Further, the article cites scholarship asserting that Luther's writings appear to have been used by people who killed Jews, both in the decades just following Luther's death and in the 20th century by Nazis.
- WP article lead sections should reflect the highlights of the important information in an article.
- What the article says about Luther and his statements about Jews seems to be important enough to mention in the lead.
I've stated repeatedly that if scholarship is said to show something, Wikipedia articles should reflect that, or better scholarship should be used to refute it. I've also said that I'm no expert on Luther, so if better information is brought to my attention, I could change my mind -- I just want Wikipedia to reflect the scholarship on a subject, and I want leads of Wikipedia articles to reflect what those articles say.
But I've been restricted from posting at Wikipedia Review by the authorities there in part because the views I've just described can't be held by a normal person (unless I were Jewish). Therefore, I'm told, I must be a Nazi, hoping to make Naziism look good with Luther's endorsement of killing and persecuting Jews. That's the "reasoning". It didn't do any good for me to declare that I'm not a Nazi, or, for that matter, a supporter of the Ku Klux Klan, or anti-Semitic.
I'm posting this here partly for informational purposes, but mostly for amusement purposes. Thanks, Wikipedia Review authorities. I'm happy to discuss this with anyone, either here or, if they let me, at Wikipedia Review. -- Noroton (talk) 17:20, 8 May 2009 (UTC)