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*[[Josias Priest]] - he appears to have been fairly prolific as a choreogapher for Purcell's semi-operas, and worked on [[Dioclesian]] (which is my second suggestion for an article to get started), [[King Arthur (opera)|King Arthur]], and [[The Fairy-Queen]]. As far as I can remember, he was also the headmaster at the girl's school where [[Dido and Aeneas]] was first produced, was he not? Cheers, [[User:Moreschi|Moreschi]] 19:08, 21 July 2006 (UTC) |
*[[Josias Priest]] - he appears to have been fairly prolific as a choreogapher for Purcell's semi-operas, and worked on [[Dioclesian]] (which is my second suggestion for an article to get started), [[King Arthur (opera)|King Arthur]], and [[The Fairy-Queen]]. As far as I can remember, he was also the headmaster at the girl's school where [[Dido and Aeneas]] was first produced, was he not? Cheers, [[User:Moreschi|Moreschi]] 19:08, 21 July 2006 (UTC) |
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::Trobairitz: Thanks for taking a look at it. For some reason I don't really like the word "female" when applied adult human females, however, I bow to the rest of the English-speaking world in this case. Does [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Trobairitz&diff=65113783&oldid=65077233 this edit] clarify what is meant? I'm not sure where that's contradicted - it's a little weird, but not surprising to me - the ''trobairitz'' wrote about ''fin' amours'' which was a pretty sexist construct, but was the standard construct of the time. The "however" is about the irony of praising women while at the same time limiting their power. I'll think about how I can make it clearer. |
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::You're right, Priest (don't know why he's not mentioned in Dido and Aeneas, it's probably my fault) and ''Dioclesian'' would both be good articles to write, next time I go to the library I'll see what I can do, thanks for the suggestions. [[User:Makemi|Mak]] <font color="green">[[User_talk:Makemi|(talk)]]</font> 23:01, 21 July 2006 (UTC) |
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Hi, thanks for your note. In this case I actually couldn't work out why the link didn't work. I think it was the apostrophe! I do agree with you about redirects though . . . - Kleinzach 16:04, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Missing
Yikes! No articles on formes fixes, rondeau (music) ... guess we're not done yet... ;-) Antandrus (talk) 04:07, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Minor trouble
This sounds stupid, but I'm having trouble getting pictures on Wikipedia to come up on my computer. I just get a blank space, with a red cross in the corner. The problem only seems to apply to Wikipedia, though sporadically beforehand other websites have misfunctioned in this fashion. Do you have any idea as to what the problem might be and, even better, how to fix it? If it's any help, I've got Windows XP and use Microsoft Internet Explorer. Cheers, Moreschi 14:16, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Too many composers, too little time
[1] LOL, actually there are probably numerous duplications there, I made that page by querying out the links from a whole bunch of different lists, do these comma splices remind you of anyone we both know and love? Hope you had a great 4th! Antandrus (talk) 00:50, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I had already read Leonora Sanvitale (nice job!). I also trimmed back my to-do list a bit: there are now some better editors than me in some areas ;-) . Now I'm fixing a few redirects prior to tackling a really big one, for which I've been reading up for a while (musique mesurée). And I really long for though are those three volumes of Einstein .... maybe I can find them at a garage sale somewhere ... :-) Have fun with Ferrara! Antandrus (talk) 03:37, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
- Perhaps as a corollary to the famous "everything tastes more or less like chicken", everything in France "more or less relates to Cheese." --Although as I write this I'm listening to Nicolas Gombert, who is more like very fine wine... Antandrus (talk) 03:52, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Muddle of the Médées
Thanks for having a go at these. I was blissfully unaware of the muddle. I have changed Médée (Charpentier opera) to Médée (Charpentier), which I hope is correct (assuming he didn't also write an oratorio on the same subject or anything). The Cherubini, I think, ought to be Médée (opera) - as it is listed on the opera corpus - but I can't move it unless I do cut and paste (which is bad style I understand). Assuming you agree is it possible to do an admin on it? Best. - Kleinzach 10:49, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. "Médée (Cherubini)" might be a solution although we normally have the main contender as X (opera) and the second as X (composer). On the other hand having two disambiguation pages might be a bit, er, ambiguous. Or are you thinking along different lines? - Kleinzach 15:26, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
- "Is the Cherubini one that much more likely to be the intended target?" - Perhaps, but I am not really familiar with either of them. I'm not sure anybody has sung the Cherubini much since Callas.
- ". . . unless you think Cherubini is far more likely to be someone's intended search I think the titles should be Médée (Cherubini) and Médée (Charpentier)". OK I'll try to implement this. - Kleinzach 17:54, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
Hi Makemi! I know we haven't interacted much (though, looking at your userpage, we would have a lot to talk about, especially classical music and Latin), but I saw your quick and decisive removal and block of the troll at User talk:Jimbo Wales, and I decided that this (combined with all of the other actions I've seen on your logs) more than warranted a barnstar. Feel free to move/copy it to your userpage. Keep up the good work- we always need admins who are willing to protect Wikipedia, and not coddle those who threaten to disrupt it. Feel free to send me a message anytime should you need help or advice. EWS23 (Leave me a message!) 19:24, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Clean up tag
Just so you know, the {{cleanup-date}} tag only uses month and year for the first parameter, not the full date, as you can see in Category:Cleanup by month. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 03:43, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Ah...
It looks to me like you may have thought he was talking about the article, while in reality he was talking about the talk page. It seems he edited other people's comments (something I never do, no matter how full of misspellings and grammatical burrs). Misunderstandings happen. :-) Coincidentally, I just sent you an e-mail about something else. Antandrus (talk) 19:12, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Ah
Ah, I see. Hope it works. Herostratus 01:37, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks!
And there's so much more to write ... and to learn, and hopefully not cross over the WP:NOR boundary. Some of the people involved in the "secret music" movement in France had recently spent time in Venice and... and.... just maybe.... 'cause it's so close.... the other place. We need to find out. :-) I was just trying to explain this all to "lay" people at dinner tonight, how in the Renaissance they actually believed that if you sang in a certain meter and in a certain mode it could make you a better person, even a non-violent one; and they certainly had a reason for longing for those changes in Paris in the 1570s, thinking of poor Claude Goudimel or Antoine de Bertrand (or, for that matter, Anna Guarini...) Fun stuff, and so much more exciting than reverting "poo" from hundreds of articles. Have a great evening too! Antandrus (talk) 04:10, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Hey Mak, you might just still be writing this article, but I was wondering whether it was custumary to leave blank sections as you did with "Synopsis" if there's a section that clearly needs to exist for the article, but that you don't have the resources or desire to write at the time. Still learning some stylistic things. And nice work with the new articles. MarkBuckles 05:51, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
repost
Ah okay, I thought any recreation of any deleted content was forbidden unless it went through a request process?--Crossmr 04:00, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks Makemi for the post, look forward to Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Istheway2 (talk • contribs)
Thanks
Well thanks, hi back! No, I haven't done any editing before--I just cut and paste the links so I know they'll work. Cheers!
Vandalism
The same anon has just put the same spammy AOL link into both "Baroque music" (which you reverted) and "Opera" (which I reverted). I think that he needs to be dealt with - either blocked or given his very last warning. Cheers, Moreschi 19:13, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
- Good. "Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow"; I suppose that this is living proof of that saying. Cheers, Moreschi 19:29, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
User:Xrblsnggt/monobook.js
Thanks! You're awesome. --Xrblsnggt 03:57, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
The article's reached the top of its category on the GA nominations page. I rather panicked and carried out some drastic revisions. I think that the new bibliography section looks good, but is the deletion of the list of actors O.K with you? As you can see, I've provided a link to the play, explaining about the removal of Hippolyta. Moreschi 17:11, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
- No, I didn't use those books as sources so a separate bibliographic section should be O.K. I agree that the GA review process is terminally slow; my Pro Milone nomination spent absolute donkey's years (probably over a month) on the list before being passed. Any slower and we'd be travelling backwards in time. In fact, once I remember copy-editing an article that was also on the GA list so that it would be passed quicker so that my Milone would get reviewed quicker! However, do you want me to review the articles in question? There's no reason why I shouldn't; I certainly haven't contributed to them in any way and have no personal POV on either of the two subjects. Fingers crossed for The Fairy-Queen. Cheers, Moreschi 18:00, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
I'll leave my comments on the articles's talk pages. Moreschi 18:43, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
We surely don't need to expand on the development of the libretto, do we? My reasoning for this is on the talk page, but it seems superfluous.
It was only a very minor quibble for Concerto, and definitely no problem. Amazing article, by the way (and my review of Trobairtz is on the way). Cheers, Moreschi 18:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
A Thank You
Thanks for responding so thouroughly and promptly to my query! Always appreciated! PS: Kudos for valiantly striving to use my system! --Josh, user:POLLUX 21:41, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Re: My RfA
ummm . . . I think I'll take your advice . . . . Thanks for it!! --Josh, user:POLLUX 16:26, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Is this an okay removal / deletion of my RfA? Thanks for all of your help, Mak! --Josh, user:POLLUX 16:36, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah - I got your post . . . all I can say is 'oops' . . . --Josh, user:POLLUX 16:47, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Margherita Gonzaga d'Este
Hey there, could you look into providing the missing volume, issue and page numbers for the nutter reference in this article? Thanks a lot. Circeus 23:10, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
- Fixed presentation now. Thanks a lot! Circeus 23:27, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
List of Bagpipers
i am not creating a new list. it already exists under the page "bagpipes". in fact i may have started that page some time back. i am just jpdating the list and combining some names that appeared under the page "uilleann Pipes"
i hope i am not doing something wrong.
please advisejoe 03:20, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hi Makemi: i am not sure what i am doing; i am an amateur. i am really not trying to create new articles, but only lists. i thoght that was what was suggested.joe 03:27, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
DYK
--Cactus.man ✍ 10:19, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you
For your translations. I have corrected some mistakes you made, but it's a great job nevertheless. Best regards, RCS 08:13, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Guess who's trying to come back?
Check out this edit. Seems she's managed to get herself put into an episode of "That's So Raven" at tv.com. (They allow unverified information there, and sometimes IMDB will pick it up.) So keep an eye out for her to reappear under a slightly changed name. Fan-1967 01:31, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Requesting anonymous editing block
I'm requesting to block anonymous editing from the IP I'm currently posting from because I have a small child using Internet who can cause unintentional vandalism. 86.57.13.43 21:11, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Music Cabal RfA Thanks!
Thanks for contributing to my successful RfA! | ||
To the people who have supported my request: I appreciate the show of confidence in me and I hope I live up to your expectations! To the people who opposed the request: I'm certainly not ignoring the constructive criticism and advice you've offered. I thank you as well! ♥! ~Kylu (u|t) 00:32, 19 July 2006 (UTC) |
- Thanks for your congratulations and the chats we've had on irc! ~Kylu (u|t) 00:32, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Your welcome message
I appreciate your kind welcome message. I am doing everything to meet all Wikipedia standards in my contributions, and I welcome any input. Cheers! --Chuchunezumi 05:43, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
The personal attack that had been left on my talk page
The comment you pointed out wasn't the PA...I had removed it earlier. I had been trying to help the new user as he had been breaking a few Wiki-rules...Fair use images, removing article cleanup tags...without actually cleaning them up...Plus he had a bad habit of cutting/pasting text directly from external websites. He was very cordial about the bits of editing advice I had giving him. But when I went through and tried to cleanup some of his errors, he responded with a bit a name calling.(which I removed). The user edits under his anon IP more often than he does under his login name. He only logs in to upload images and place them. Most of his edits have been OK lately and, thankfully, he has stopped pasting copyvio text into articles. He will learn as time goes by. And I will do my best to try and help him(or direct him to where he can get help) if I see he is getting into trouble. Cheers! Fair Deal 10:43, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Third person?
I'm confused about your "third person" comment in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeffrey Babcock. Whose use of third person are you referring to? If Jeffrey Babcock had written the article in first person, that would be bad Wikipedia form...and maybe it would have gotten the article more summarily deleted, but it's hardly the kind of thing to be encouraged. I also think it's bad form to use second person on an open discussion like that; on a talk page, though, there's an obvious audience, so I have no issues addressing you as "you." So, what's the issue? —C.Fred (talk) 03:30, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
D'oh! The indent threw me, since it looked like a comment to me. I follow you now. (Plus, he pulled a "Bob Dole" and referred to himself by name in the third person.) —C.Fred (talk) 03:42, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you for notifying me of the need to source references directly on the article page. I have added several of these, although there are others. This is my first entry on Wikipedia and I thank you for your kind advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Derekdorephd (talk • contribs)
Closed a deletion
Just to let you know, I closed an AfD you deleted. I hope I did it right, as its my first :p SynergeticMaggot 05:05, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- Now that I think about it, I dont think I put "AfD closed" in the edit summary :/ SynergeticMaggot 05:05, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
The letters
That was funny! Yeah, I got booted from IRC too. -- I fear that astroturfing in general is going to be more and more of a problem for us here. Thanks for your help on this one. Antandrus (talk) 05:23, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Jake_Remington. LOL. Antandrus (talk) 23:03, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
AMS
Cheaper, IIRC. It's on one of the pages you get to as you are signing up. Since I already have a subscription I just left it alone. I was just looking at the schedule and program for their convention in November in LA ... looks awfully interesting, and I'm pretty sure I'll be there. :-) See ya! Antandrus (talk) 00:21, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- Bwa ha ha, I almost choked on that. Though perhaps John Cage would have approved (then again, he preferred the longer variety, especially when disrupted with ambient spontaneities) Antandrus (talk) 03:13, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Minor edits
D'oh! (smacks fist against forehead) I hadn't even realized I wasn't logged in. Thanks, Mak! Peirigill 18:16, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Grove
Say, if you're looking to get free access to Grove, it's actually quite simple. I get free online access to Grove through my library card from Brand Art & Music Library in Glendale. If you don't have access to a library that will get you access, I can always "lend" you my card number. Peirigill 18:21, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Trobairitz and other things
Sorry for the delay. I've given it a copy-edit (I don't think I'll be able to pass it - I've done too much), but I'll leave a note on the GA nominations page to say that it probably should go through. One thing is still ambiguous and confusing: the paragraph beginning "They generally wrote of.." is very strange. Who are "They"? "Women were generally the subject of the writing of troubadours, however" - but not of the female version, the trobairitz? Yet this contradicts what is written later on. Apart from these 2 odd sentences, it's a great article.
If you're not too busy, perhaps a couple of articles for you to create:
- Josias Priest - he appears to have been fairly prolific as a choreogapher for Purcell's semi-operas, and worked on Dioclesian (which is my second suggestion for an article to get started), King Arthur, and The Fairy-Queen. As far as I can remember, he was also the headmaster at the girl's school where Dido and Aeneas was first produced, was he not? Cheers, Moreschi 19:08, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- Trobairitz: Thanks for taking a look at it. For some reason I don't really like the word "female" when applied adult human females, however, I bow to the rest of the English-speaking world in this case. Does this edit clarify what is meant? I'm not sure where that's contradicted - it's a little weird, but not surprising to me - the trobairitz wrote about fin' amours which was a pretty sexist construct, but was the standard construct of the time. The "however" is about the irony of praising women while at the same time limiting their power. I'll think about how I can make it clearer.