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{{ping|Stonkaments}} I'd like you to be aware of the discussion here as well, because I think the invitation to open a separate RFC was directed more to you than to me. If the thing you were invited to do won't actually be allowed, you should know that. --[[User:AndewNguyen|AndewNguyen]] ([[User talk:AndewNguyen|talk]]) 20:12, 9 May 2021 (UTC) |
{{ping|Stonkaments}} I'd like you to be aware of the discussion here as well, because I think the invitation to open a separate RFC was directed more to you than to me. If the thing you were invited to do won't actually be allowed, you should know that. --[[User:AndewNguyen|AndewNguyen]] ([[User talk:AndewNguyen|talk]]) 20:12, 9 May 2021 (UTC) |
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:{{u|AndewNguyen}}, you should consider taking a break from this entire topic. Repeatedly opening new RfCs to push a particular outcome is a waste of everyone's time. The load-bearing part of JBL's comment was this: "{{tq|If there really is a fundamental issue not addressed by this RfC}}". It's the clear consensus of the community that there is not such a '''fundamental''' issue, and you need to respect that. [[User:Mackensen|Mackensen]] [[User_talk:Mackensen|(talk)]] 21:15, 9 May 2021 (UTC) |
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NYNH&H stations (and a couple other things)
How do you wish to choose which NYNH&H stations are and aren't shown in templates, given that stopping patterns varied through the decades? For example: there was formerly a Hebronville station between P/CF and Attleboro (see map), but it was probably gone by the 1950s. Conversely, Worcester-bound trains ceased stopping at Groton at some point; by 1955, Norwich was the first stop after New London. (Similarly, Clinton was the first stop after Westbrook by then.) I'm not picky about how we decide which stations to show (perhaps only those in this 1955 timetable?), but we should be consistent.
Second, could you take a quick look at this GA review I'm working on? I'm feeling like the author is being unreasonably obstinate (refusing to accept any of my suggestions about the structure of the article) and somewhat WP:OWN-y ("We can discuss the merits of citation templates if you like, but the bottom line is I won't be doing it."
rather bothered me), but it's also entirely possible that I'm just being too picky.
Third, you really ought to archive your talk page - it's getting a bit unwieldy at this point. Cheers, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:09, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- You raise a good point about stations, one that's applicable for other former railroads as well. I'd like to straddle a line between inclusive and useful--a sea of redlinks aren't navigable. I've been working from a couple sources: that 1955 timetable, a 1967 timetable, a Penn Central employee timetable from 1974, Official Guides of the Railways from 1910 and 1950, and the USRA Final System Plan which led to the creation of Conrail. I'm leaning toward the 1955 timetable as representative, although obviously if someone writes an article about a pre-1955 station it should be included.
- Re Groton, I was aware of Groton station (Connecticut) but didn't link to it because I wasn't sure it was the same station site. A Worcester-bound train couldn't have stopped there, right?
- Happy to have a look at said GA and offer whatever feedback I can.
- Talk page archived. I've settled into the April-April archive, but I never remember to do it. Thanks for the reminder :). Mackensen (talk) 22:22, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- Regarding Mason, I'd certainly prefer to see citation templates used for references, but I wouldn't making it a sticking point for a GA review. The article structure doesn't seem too unusual; I read over the review and I can understand why the author made the choices he did. On some GA reviews I've done the citation maintenance myself, but usually they were transport articles where I felt comfortable with the subject matter. WP:CITEVAR is in play here as well. Mackensen (talk) 22:32, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- There have been a few different station locations in Groton - the original Groton Bank stations (where Pfizer is now), one right at the wye that served both Boston and Worcester trains, the short-lived Amtrak station east of the wye at Bridge Street, and Poquonnock (Midway) station where Bluff Point State Park is. My intention is to cover all of them in the article, as they share a great deal of common history.
- Westbrook is the only example I can think of on the NH system (other than a few now-CTfastrak stations) where a station discontinued that early on a line that retained passenger service is a current or likely article. I think we can handle those one-by-one when they occur.
- Thanks for the GA comments. I'll continue with the review. I'll never understand why some editors are so resistant to using citation templates - I would be quite useless at citing anything without them. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:44, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Pi.1415926535: Speaking of succession templates, your input would be valuable on Talk:Tower City Center. Mackensen (talk) 01:01, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
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Template:NETransit
Could you help me with {{NETransit}}? I'm trying to set it up that it will say "Page numbers are accurate to the <month><day>, <year> version." (with a link) after the {{cite web}} if the {{{version}}}
parameter has a YYYYMMDD code, and say nothing otherwise. Right now, the former works, but it throws an error if the version is not specified. I'm sure there's some basic template function I'm unaware of. Thanks, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:47, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Pi.1415926535: I think it's fixed. You need to ensure there's a value to compare against, even if it's 0. Mackensen (talk) 01:51, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
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Another ducky Oanabay sock, it appears. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:06, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Caltrain s-rail templates
Do you have any thoughts on how to handle the oversized s-rail templates for Caltrain? On some stations, like Millbrae station, it's as tall as the rest of the infobox. My first thought would be to only show peak-direction Baby Bullet patterns (reducing 4 rows to 2) and figure out some way to simplify the limited patterns (2 rows into 1). Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:38, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Pi.1415926535: I've never liked showing service patterns in the templates. It's one thing with the Baby Bullet where there's an actual article on the service and the stopping patterns are dramatically different. That said, Caltrain does call them out in the published timetables. I think I'd collapse down to a maximum of three rows (local, limited, and express), and alter the service names to link out to the "Train numbering scheme" section to make it clear that these are real groupings. I've interacted with the Caltrain articles for years without realizing that. Mackensen (talk) 01:49, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the thoughts! There are two distinct Baby Bullet patterns, but I think it should be reducible to a maximum four rows in most cases. I've also linked the service patterns as you suggested. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:26, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
- I'd also appreciate your thoughts at Template talk:S-rail/lines#Revert. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:06, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for the thoughts! There are two distinct Baby Bullet patterns, but I think it should be reducible to a maximum four rows in most cases. I've also linked the service patterns as you suggested. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:26, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
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Illinois Zephyr and Carl Sandburg
Okay, I'll have some time this weekend to potentially do a merge. Think I should boldly merge, or do a merge request? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 07:00, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- I'm tempted to say that no discussion is necessary, given the precedent of Illini and Saluki and also Chicagoan and Kansas Cityan which I earlier this year. There's no contrary facts; Carl Sandburg was added at the same time as the Saluki and for the same reason. Mackensen (talk) 12:54, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, done! I'm cleaning up templates, wikidata, etc now. Does Template:Amtrak Carl Sandburg need a proper deletion discussion, or can you speedy it as redundant? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:00, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
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Question about railroad line categories
How are you treating situations where an old railroad built a station that was used by Amtrak, then was replaced with a new station close nearby. Leaving the old "former railroad station" or removing it completely? Example of Pontiac station (Illinois) where I've been changing Category:Alton Railroad stations to Category:Former Chicago and Alton Railroad stations. —GFOLEY FOUR!— 02:01, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
- If the history of the former station is covered in the new article I tend to leave the category in place (assuming there's no separate article on the former station). Otherwise, I take the category out. I doubt I've been 100% consistent. Mackensen (talk) 02:50, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:HK-MTR stations
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disaster with respect to Soo Line Depot disambiguation
Hey, what's up? You have destroyed the previously existing disambiguation of places named "Soo Line Depot", replacing it with a list of places seemingly NOT named "Soo Line Depot". Hey that's unacceptable. Among other things, you deleted legitimate redlink entries for places of that name which are notable by dint of their being listed on the National Register of Historic Places. For now, I am going to restore the previous version. I do believe you have information that is appropriate to be incorporated somehow, although not at cost of making the disambiguation page completely non-compliant with Wikipedia guidelines. Please discuss at Talk:Soo Line Depot and/or here, and ping me or post to my Talk page if I seem not to notice postings. I do appreciate you are surely trying to improve Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. Sincerely, --Doncram (talk) 23:26, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hey, i see also that in this edit you removed a category of Northern Pacific Railway stations from a place which is now a museum. I expect that it is no longer a current railway station, but our categories and list-articles include former places as well as current ones. I will revert that change. Hey, what's up, are you by chance new here? I am not sure what to do in terms of reviewing all of your recent changes for possible reversions, and/or posting at a noticeboard for others to review what you're doing. You also moved many railway station articles, without using the wp:RM process (which works really well to bring to bear considered judgment). I am not into having conflict, but these several edits seem rash. --Doncram (talk) 23:44, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Doncram: I left a comment at Northern Pacific Railway Museum explaining my rationale there. Regarding moves, WP:RM really isn't necessary for uncontroversial move. There's strong consensus that NRHP names (which weren't even followed in many cases) aren't appropriate for railway station articles. I think that's settled, else I wouldn't have done it. Inasmuch as "Soo Line Depot" is often used to refer to some of those stations I pointed them at where the articles are actually located. If they should be titled with the NRHP names instead (where accurate and appropriate) I have no objection to that, though I question the utility of such a change. On your last point, it's my impression that disambiguation pages do not in general contain red links. I used to add them myself and found I would get reverted, so I stopped the practice. All the best, Mackensen (talk) 23:50, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
- To isolate just one point, redlinks are explicitly allowed on disambiguation pages, per MOS:DABRL. A redlink entry is supposed to also include a bluelink to a regular article that shows the redlink in context, i.e. supports the idea that the topic is Wikipedia-notable. On the Soo Line Depot disambiguation page, there were three redlink entries which were not in fact supported by bluelinks. So, a combative deletionist/obstructionist literal obstinate Wikipedia editor (not saying at all that you are one; you are in fact reporting some lack of full understanding of the type of conflict that goes on sometimes) could claim to be justified in simply deleting them. However, if you clicked on their redlinks, and then on "what links here", you would have found the corresponding NRHP list-articles which link to them. And, i would much prefer that you or others simple improve the disambiguation page entries by adding those corresponding bluelinks in a supporting fashion, as I have now done at that disambiguation page. You mention having had redlinks deleted; I hope you will be supportive of defending good redlinks in the future. --Doncram (talk) 00:08, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks about this. About whether it "amounts to a technicality" and that it's "a minor matter", well that is a matter of perspective. In the past there have been editors who basically attacked disambiguation pages in Category:Disambig-Class National Register of Historic Places articles with many tens or hundreds or thousands of edits based on their perspective about what matters, at great cost to me and other editors. I am not bent on proving you wrong in some way. I would simply like for good naming of articles to stand, and for good disambiguation pages helping readers to find their way to these articles, to stand. I don't understand what you mean by "In my case there were no additional links from other articles": as I said the redlink items did have incoming links from NRHP list-articles. Again there should have been supporting bluelinks already like what I just added, like "NRHP-listed in whatever County, State", so your not seeing their deeper, fundamental validity is understandable. In general, wherever there are conflicts in Wikipedia, it helps if editors can narrow the field of disagreement/non-understanding before bringing matters to a larger forum for review. --Doncram (talk) 00:55, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- I'm unaware of these broader conflicts; I'm simply saying that when my links were removed no articles beyond the disambiguation page linked to those articles. Per the guideline you linked those links should (and were) removed. That's all. I have no strong views on this particular question and consider it closed. Mackensen (talk) 00:59, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but you seem to be re-asserting something false. For example, the Soo Line Depot (Remer, Minnesota) redlink item in the Soo Line Depot disambiguation page, the article National Register of Historic Places listings in Cass County, Minnesota linked to that redlink. Similarly for two others that you deleted. The correct thing to do editorially would be to add the supporting bluelink. Same for two other items there. It's not true that "no articles beyond the disambiguation page linked to those articles". --Doncram (talk) 22:05, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Stop with moves of railway stations
Hey, I see in your recent edit history multiple moves of railway station articles, including this move. I think these are moves are all controversial and are not compliant with guidelines. Please don't move any more. I will, today or tomorrow, open a review of all of these to have them all moved back probably. You moved them to names that you seem to be assuming, by your original research or your own original reasoning, to be "common names" for these places, without regard for actual common/official names existing for the places. This is not right. You should have used the formal wp:RM process, but perhaps you did not view these moves as likely to be controversial. --Doncram (talk) 23:54, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Nope. These moves are all correct and per established naming policy, and your aggressive tone here is ridiculous. That move you linked to was perfectly fine to make without a RM, and I would have done the same. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:58, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Doncram: I've probably made over a hundred such moves over the last few months. I don't think these are at all controversial. Far from using original research or reasoning I'm following Wikipedia:Naming conventions (US stations), which is a guideline. I'm unaware of any guideline which says that one or more names listed on the NRHP form should be preferred. Certainly it shouldn't be accepted as an official name as many such names are clearly descriptive. Mackensen (talk) 23:59, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, noted that you have done a lot more, which I think are likely to include more controversial ones. And noted that some other editor is supportive of your recent moves. Do let's continue to be civil. However, my request stands. It may take more effort now to review and retrieve more of your moves, for a full discussion. Thanks. --Doncram (talk) 00:11, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Doncram: It would be helpful if you could draw my attention to the policies and guidelines which inform your claim that these moves are controversial. Simply stating that the are doesn't make them so, and doesn't give me much to go on to understand where you're coming from. Mackensen (talk) 00:16, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, noted that you have done a lot more, which I think are likely to include more controversial ones. And noted that some other editor is supportive of your recent moves. Do let's continue to be civil. However, my request stands. It may take more effort now to review and retrieve more of your moves, for a full discussion. Thanks. --Doncram (talk) 00:11, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, certainly a standard "X station" name is better than the jumbled mess that the NRHP gives its stations. There are numerous stations that are listed under awful titles such as "X railroad-Y depot" or even listed under a far newer railroad. (Burlington Northern Depot seems to be be common) The one station that I saw that I could have some objection to is Omaha station (Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad), which seems to have common name usage of "Burlington Station" in sources and the current use as a TV station. —GFOLEY FOUR!— 01:38, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- That's always been my concern with NRHP names. They're descriptive and obviously not official in any context beyond the NRHP. That's fine and I'm happy to note them in the NRHP infobox and somewhere in the main text, but we can't use them to settle article titles when there's a specific guideline in play.
- Regarding Omaha, my concern there is that "Burlington Station" or "Burlington station" could in generic parlance mean any station connected with the CB&Q, its ancestors and descendants, and also any station in place named Burlington. It's getting disambiguated no matter what. Better to lead with the place where the station is found. Mackensen (talk) 01:45, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, i understand from your move of this NRHP-listed railway station that you are giving me a big "fuck you" to my request that you do not make further moves. I do sincerely regard this as contested. In my opinion, you appear to be basically making shit up, for the sake of making shit up that seems more common to you, rather than accepting somewhat more formal National Register of Historic Places listed names. I requested that you do not make contested moves. My assertion that your moves are contested is evidence that they are contested. Great. See you in court, so to speak, in a day or two. --Doncram (talk) 04:07, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) NRHP names are not always suitable for article titles. For one thing, every word in the name is usually capitalized even if the name is obviously invented or entirely descriptive (e.g. "28th Street Subway Station (IRT)", which we can't use in its entirety for multiple reasons). MOS explicitly encourages avoiding capitalization as much as possible. Jc86035 (talk) 05:40, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Doncram: Until you answer my question regarding policies and guidelines (see above) I don't know that there's much more to discuss here. As should be clear to you from the discussion here, far from "making shit up" I'm following guidelines which enjoy consensus. That you apparently don't like these guidelines does not, in itself, make these or other moves "controversial." All the best, Mackensen (talk) 10:59, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, i understand from your move of this NRHP-listed railway station that you are giving me a big "fuck you" to my request that you do not make further moves. I do sincerely regard this as contested. In my opinion, you appear to be basically making shit up, for the sake of making shit up that seems more common to you, rather than accepting somewhat more formal National Register of Historic Places listed names. I requested that you do not make contested moves. My assertion that your moves are contested is evidence that they are contested. Great. See you in court, so to speak, in a day or two. --Doncram (talk) 04:07, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
For those who have been following along at home, I have opened a formal move request at Talk:Little Falls and Dakota Depot#Requested move 3 August 2018. This strikes me as avoidable bureaucracy, but needs must. Mackensen (talk) 19:41, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Before any more mass moves of articles about places on the National Register, please discuss this with the NRHP project at some central location. Jonathunder (talk) 21:40, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Jonathunder: Can you point me in the direction of the guideline which the NRHP project uses in determining the names of articles? I looked around but couldn't find one. Mackensen (talk) 21:55, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- We tend to go by WP:COMMONNAME broadly and sources for individual articles specifically, which means we don't generally impose names globally and frown on mass moves. But let's discuss this. Jonathunder (talk) 22:00, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- It's been my impression that articles are simply named after whatever's in the NRHP forms; it's questionable at best that these represent the common name. If the project does tend to depart from these then that's probably wise but (a) that's not reflected in the articles I've encountered and (b) that suggests we should employ naming guidelines where possible so that we're not reinventing the wheel on each and every page. Mackensen (talk) 22:14, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- We tend to go by WP:COMMONNAME broadly and sources for individual articles specifically, which means we don't generally impose names globally and frown on mass moves. But let's discuss this. Jonathunder (talk) 22:00, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Depew station
The disambiguation page Depew station has four entries, three of which are only red links. Per MOS:DABRED, “A link to a non-existent article (a "red link") should only be included on a disambiguation page when a linked article (not just other disambiguation pages) also includes that red link.
” Searching Wikipedia shows that there are no other links to (or even mentions of) those other stations, only the new one.
Disambiguation pages are not articles; they are supposed to help the reader to navigate to the article they want. Thus, there must be a blue link (and only one!) for each entry. This page will probably eventually become a dab page, but only after articles on the other stations are written. Right now, it makes a good redirect to Buffalo–Depew station. — Gorthian (talk) 18:46, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Gorthian: I'm working on a follow-up article right now, and I had (per MOS:DABRED) created red links to all the articles in question. I'm not sure why you didn't see them, but they exist. Lehigh Valley Terminal links to the Erie and Lehigh Valley Railroad articles, while Buffalo Central Terminal links to the New York Central article. That aside, Buffalo–Depew station doesn't discuss the complicated back history of the three other stations and isn't a good target. Mackensen (talk) 19:36, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
- I figured you were working on them. :-) But MOS:DABRED doesn’t say that a red link is okay as an entry; it says that there must be a blue-linked article for each entry, too (with certain conditions).I did find two of your red links in an article, where they showed up as the next stations on a line, but linking that article really didn’t give the reader any information about the other stations. (I missed them because I was searching on “Depew station” and they show as just “Depew”.)Leave the redirect for now; when your new article(s) is ready, that’s when to make the dab page. — Gorthian (talk) 19:49, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
About the protection of "Union Medical Healthcare Limited"
I know that there are sources that show it is credible, but it is mostly in Chinese. It seems like it is notable enough at only the Chinese circle.--1233Talk 07:13, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
- I have no strong views; frankly I didn't remember-speedy deleting and protecting the article. Draft:Union Medical Healthcare Limited need to go through the WP:AFC process, which is backlogged. The draft is certainly better-written (and shorter) than the previous version. Mackensen (talk) 11:04, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
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Thank you today for Hi-Level, about "a bilevel intercity railcar which ran in the United States from 1954–2018. It entered service in 1954 with the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway's El Capitan. It was the first type of bilevel intercity railcar in the United States. The Hi-Levels remained in service with Amtrak, the national passenger rail operator in the United States, from 1971–2018, after the end of most private sector passenger service in the United States. Their design influenced the Superliner, which entered service in 1978 and remains the backbone of Amtrak's fleet west of the Mississippi River."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:10, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
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New Haven State Street station
Hello, I have opened a discussion on Talk:New Haven State Street station re: the lede. Best, Markvs88 (talk) 13:20, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
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"Train station"
While researching my RM of Van Nuys train station, I came across Bristol Train Station. It's NRHP but not at the NRHP name, and a likely future Amtrak station. Could you do the move to Bristol station (Virginia)? Thanks, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:31, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
- Done. I'll leave a note on the talk page about the Transdominion article. Mackensen (talk) 22:09, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
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Stop with moves of railway stations (2)
Hi, I recall previously posting here, and my browser recalls it too, suggesting "Stop with moves of railway stations" as section title. And there was an organized wp:RM about one of your previous moves, which ended with your preferred naming NOT being accepted, and I thought that you would absorb that as feedback from the community. Please do stop. You have been informed, now, again, that other editor(s) perceive your moves to be controversial, and therefore you should not make any such moves without a proper wp:RM process. For places listed on the NRHP, please give notice of any RM at wt:NRHP.
I see in section above that your recent move of a Virginia railway station was per a request. I noticed it separately, already, and reverted it. I also noticed your move of Lester Depot, which I returned to the name supported in sourcing, and I removed your unsupported assertion that it is named "Lester station". Per the previous RM discussion, and per all usual Wikipedia practices, you are not allowed to impose any personal preference you have for how places should be named; you must follow wikipedia article naming practices, which basically follow documented common naming.
Your moves have been labelled with link to wp:USSTATION, which by my reading does not support your moves. That essay(?) states the obvious fact that numerous railway stations have common names, and those commons names are what should be used. I don't get why the essay gives any guidance at all for how to name railway stations which do not have common names, as I doubt that wikipedia should cover any such places.
Please also see Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (US stations)#Status as "guideline" disputed. By what authority is this labelled a "guideline"?. Depending on how that goes, I will seek to have wp:USSTATION clarified or deleted. But as it stands now, it does not provide justification for moving any train stations from their names supported in sources. --Doncram (talk) 16:27, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
- Mackensen’s moves have all been perfectly kosher according to consensus and the guidelines. Please keep up the good work.—Cúchullain t/c 11:56, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
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Hi Mackensen, as you were instrumental in crafting WP:USSTATION, I'd much appreciate if you could take a look at two proposed station conventions, WP:IRLSTATION and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Australian and New Zealand stations). The former is pretty much ready but the second one needs more work and some decision making.--Cúchullain t/c 14:18, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
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Buffalo, New York
Hello. I mistakenly reverted one of your edits in Buffalo, New York few weeks ago. I do not know why I was confused about your edit -- I thought you were deleting information when you were in fact simply separating a blob of texts into two paragraphs. I have reverted the section back, to reflect the changes you tried to make. My apologies. K2323 (talk) 21:47, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
The Builder - redux
Hi Mackensen - you kindly found a URL allowing me to download The Buider vol 61 a few days ago. I have the PDF, downloaded via your link; but find today that the link you supplied gets me an Error 403. Mainly out of academic interest, but also because I'd like to provide a link against a couple of commons images which I've uploaded from the PDF ... do you have a clue what's causing the 403, or a clue as to how you got the link in the first place (I'm thinking it might have been weirdly time-limited)? The Resource Request discussion is here. Any light you can shed would be most welcome. thanks. --Tagishsimon (talk) 07:25, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- No idea about the 403. I obtained the link by clicking on the "Ebook - free" link at the left, which I assumed is suppressed for you. That added it to my library, and I was able to get a download link. Possibly the links are time-limited? Mackensen (talk) 15:47, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. Good to know. Yes, suppressed. Not a huge problem; and I've asked them to make it full access in the UK, so fingers crossed. Thanks again for your help - it's yielded a couple of lovely images at the top of the new Battersea Town Hall. --Tagishsimon (talk) 15:59, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
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"Generic template" edits
What's up with shoving {{Rail color}} and {{station link}} into all those RDTs? Besides replacing smaller, system-specific templates, you're also introducing unnecessary code bloat! For example, in this recent edit, compare:
#{{PLR color|blue}} |
#{{Rail color|PAAC|Blue Line|Library}}
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19 characters | 38 characters – 100% increase! |
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{{stnd|Allegheny|PAT}}|{{color box|#{{PLR color|red}} |
{{station link|PAAC|Allegheny}}|{{color box|#{{Rail color|PAAC|Red Line|South Hills Village}}
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53 characters | 93 characters – 75% increase |
then multiply by the ten or twenty – or 100 – rows of each diagram…
And then there's also the pointless increase in server load: {{PLR color}} is a nice, simple #switch
statement that returns a hex value, whereas {{Rail color|PAAC}} invokes Module:Adjacent stations (1,000+ lines of code) that executes the local function getColor()
, which is an unacceptable REDUNDANTFORK from {{PLR color}}. And did it ever occur to you to at least place a note on the perfectly good existing templates to the effect that you’ve gone and created all these forking sub-modules? The least you could do is reduce the amount of dross you’ve added and use the short forms “{{rcr}}”, “{{rcb}}” and “{{stl}}”. (I suppose that changing the old templates into wrappers/redirects for the S-line calls would be too much ask.) Useddenim (talk) 04:33, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Useddenim: Template:Adjacent stations is a replacement for the S-line family of templates. I didn't create the base system, but I did implement for PAAC and other systems. It's an improvement in a number of ways. For one, Module:Adjacent stations/PAAC replaces at least four main templates: Template:PLR color, Template:PLR lines, Template:PLR stations, and Template:PLR style, plus all the related sub-templates of S-line for that particular system. All the interrelated display information for a system are unified in a single place. I see no effective purpose in using the "short form" over the "long form"; it doesn't make a material difference in page load and reduces the readability of the underlying code. If that's a change you want to make, fine, but I can't see that it makes much difference. Regarding the use of
stnd
, I would point out that every single link it generated was a redirect because it didn't leverage the actual system station templates, and thus didn't account for the fact that those articles moved years ago. Station link does, and that's a real benefit. Finally, character count doesn't translate to an increase in server load. You'd need to look at the actual byte usage in template expansion. I can't recall that ever being a big deal with s-line, and I seriously doubt it is with these LUA modules. Best, Mackensen (talk) 12:32, 24 January 2019 (UTC) - Also, passing a generic blue into PLR color, for example, isn't very resilient and it's how we wind up with five aliases for every line. There are two "Blue" colored lines in the Pittsburgh system. Calling one of them explicitly is no bad thing. Mackensen (talk) 12:33, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
- Further regarding performance, you can compare the pre-conversion and current iterations of Template:Pittsburgh Blue Line:
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Real time usage | 0.464 seconds | 0.461 seconds |
Template argument size | 196988/2097152 bytes | 197244/2097152 bytes |
Lua memory usage | 1.38 MB/50 MB | 2.4 MB/50 MB |
- It's basically a wash, and the addition of 602 bytes of wikimarkup doesn't register. Mackensen (talk) 12:44, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
Re: LVRR
You're a far better coder than I am. I am doing this with what little knowledge I can muster. Mitch32(My ambition is to hit .400 and talk 1.000.) 04:42, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
Ani
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. --Cards84664 (talk) 18:55, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
Template:Amtrak Lincoln Service
I think you understand this stuff so would you please check the edit on 11 December 2018 by a new user at Template:Amtrak Lincoln Service. Johnuniq (talk) 07:12, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Johnuniq: It's fine. It's true that the Empire Builder and Hiawatha Service are available northbound connections out of Chicago, but there's no relationship with the Lincoln Service. Mackensen (talk) 12:22, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Module:Rail
I saw that Ythlev recreated Template:Sidebar Rail, and it once again referred to Adjacent stations as the "Old version" I have re-redirected all instances of Module:Rail to Module:Adjacent stations. If you want to pursue an afd of Module:Rail, be my guest. Cards84664 (talk) 23:47, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- <side note: The correct venue for deleting Module:Rail would be RfD or TfD, not AfD> {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 23:51, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- I'll backtrack on that, I'll do the nomination. Thank you for the correct name. Cards84664 (talk) 23:57, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
I'm not opposed to a refactoring, provided there's a good reason and steps taken to prevent breakage. This certainly isn't the way to go about it, and it's interfering with the normal development of the module. Mackensen (talk) 00:16, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
Metrolinx
You seem to have misinterpreted the function of Metrolinx. They do not actually operate anything. They fund and construct projects but the operation is given over to either the local transit authority or GO Transit for regional operations. Secondarywaltz (talk) 20:02, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Secondarywaltz: I don't recall saying Metrolink operated anything, but they do appear to be a container which holds UPE, GO Transit, and the transitway, among other projects. That doesn't make UPE "part" of GO Transit. Mackensen (talk) 20:09, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
Module:Adjacent Stations/PAAC
Hey, I've been working on articles of each station on the West Busway operated by the Port Authority of Allegheny County. So far I've done Carnegie and Bell. However, the adjacent stations module isn't working for me because I have had to name the articles "Carnegie station (PAAC)" and "Bell station (PAAC)" respectively, rather than whatever you have the data set as. I know almost nothing about the module itself, and was just wondering if you could help out.
Thanks, Bacon — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bacon BMW (talk • contribs) 03:31, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Bacon BMW: Hello, nice work on those articles. Bell and Carnegie needed to be added as exceptions to the standard naming rule in the module. I've added them: [1]. Best, Mackensen (talk) 03:37, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
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Station link template
Hi Mackensen! I have been away from Wikipedia for a while to focus on real life, but have recently been trying to return. I was looking through the edits of the articles I care about the most, and found this edit you made earlier this month. I'm not quite sure why the templates had to be changed from {{amtk}} to {{station link}}. I know there's been this whole thing about using the new adjacent stations module: maybe you can explain that bit to me and I'll understand it? If it was necessary, why not save characters and use {{stl}}? Thanks in advance! –Daybeers (talk) 06:47, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- The issue with Amtk is that it uses {{Amtrak stations}}, which is deprecated in favor of Module:Adjacent stations/Amtrak (used in conjunction with {{Adjacent stations}}). Station link supports both; it falls back to traditional s-line templates if there's no Adjacent stations module defined. There's an ongoing discussion, which I believe you've participated in, at Template talk:Amtk about either updating that template to support the new data module or simply deprecating it. I don't think it's a big deal to save a couple characters; it doesn't affect page load speed or anything else. Mackensen (talk) 17:14, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- Can't it just be a redirect? There are many pages that link to the template, so it would be a pain to have to change the templates on each article as well as the route templates. The advantage to using the adjacent stations module is speed, correct? –Daybeers (talk) 18:09, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- There are several advantages to the Adjacent stations module. Speed is one; centralizing all the s-line functionality (including the line templates) in a single place is another. It also eliminates the need for the complex
|rows=
and|hide=
logic; it handles all that automatically. The template could absolutely be redirected, and I suggested that as a possibility. The only issue is that Adjacent stations doesn't support the|state=
parameter; anything using that would need to be updated. The Amtrak adjacent stations module uses line-based disambiguation and a few special keys. Anyway, we should have this conversation at Template talk:Amtk. I'd created a demonstration redirected module earlier in the month and linked to it from there. Mackensen (talk) 20:11, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- There are several advantages to the Adjacent stations module. Speed is one; centralizing all the s-line functionality (including the line templates) in a single place is another. It also eliminates the need for the complex
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West Green toward Tower City
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Can you help me figure out what I did wrong? Cards84664 (talk) 21:05, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Misplaced bracket that was preventing the module from recognizing any lines after Blue. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:39, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
McGregor station (BC)
A year or so ago, when I read this article as a complete novice in Wikipedia matters, I was so taken back by its glaring inaccuracies that I added the warning, The information in paragraph 2 is wholly inaccurate. A corrected version has been added to the McGregor, British Columbia article. This paragraph has since been removed and replaced by a disputed factual accuracy warning. I can vouch that the McGregor, BC article is accurate in essence (awaiting the input of additional information and the correction of minor errors), but the McGregor station one is largely misinformation, confirmable by a cursory review of railway timetables.
I assume the reference to the McGregor, BC article was removed because the narrative regarding the post-office location in the BC Geographical Names website was confused with the station location. This is an understandable mistake, because the article could easily be misinterpreted by anyone unfamiliar with the subject matter. I am progressively updating the Wikipedia articles for the East Line towns, drawing upon my latest sources of railway and other material, but this is a slow and time-consuming process. Unfortunately, the only article to date that fully embraces this data is Shelley, BC. A glance at the "Railway" section of that article should indicate that I equally possess a fairly comprehensive knowledge of other East Line stops such as McGregor.
What is now called McGregor has never been anything but a flag stop. The former community is long gone and if a station building ever existed, it would have been merely a small shelter. Dewey, on the other hand, like Guilford, had a station building, but the nearest community was a mile or two away. If the Grand Trunk Pacific had chosen a different route, the various places would never have appeared on the map. The history of the towns, which largely revolved around the lumber industry, cannot be divorced from the railway's presence. Consequently, the railway section of the respective Wikipedia articles for the communities is fundamental.
Stub articles such as Willow River station, Aleza Lake station, Upper Fraser station, McGregor station, Hutton station (Hutton Mills reference another confusion with PO name), Longworth station, Penny station, and Dome Creek station, are misleading in that they are not even stations, but merely flag stops with no platforms or buildings whatsoever. The passenger train passes each way only once every second day, and with so few residents, stops at most locations would be a rarity. These stub articles contain no additional information not included in the respective articles for the actual communities themselves, and any intrinsic value these articles may have once possessed no longer exists.
I recommend to you as a Wikipedia authority to attach a notification for the removal of these insignificant articles and to reinstate the railway categories for the respective community articles themselves, so that anyone selecting those categories for research purposes, or is reading a Wikipedia article linking to those categories, can at least gain some useful information on what is and has been the railroad's impact on those localities. I suspect if these stub articles had been written today, they would not have passed a Wikipedia review to move beyond the draft stage.
I became involved in Wikipedia in late 2017, when I stumbled upon "Hansard (railway point)", which was scheduled for deletion. Although I now realize that much of my understanding at the time was flaky, I at least knew there was something worth saving. My now more informed self cannot say the same for the respective articles on minor flag stops that stretch from Willow River to Dome Creek. I appreciate, that like me, railroads are your special interest, but as a BC resident, I can assure you these specimens are not worth resuscitating. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DMBanks1 (talk • contribs) 23:50, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- @DMBanks1: I appreciate your coming by. I should start by noting that I know very little about British Columbia and edited this set of articles because I was working on Via Rail station/stops in general. I replaced your manual warning with the accuracy disputed template because that's the common way to indicate a problem, and because it wasn't clear to me what the problem actually was. I now have a better understanding of the situation and can offer a few suggestions. I'm not sure there's any consensus on what to do with flag stops, particularly when there are no facilities. A redirection to the community in question might be appropriate, but if so the categories should remain on the redirect, and not on the community. The latter looks wrong, and they'll probably get removed. I think the flag stop question should be raised with a broader audience, probably at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains. Best, Mackensen (talk) 00:03, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
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I came across this article today and noticed you indefinitely semi-protected it three years ago. Do you think it still needs to be semi-protected? It seems like most of the vandalism took place in late 2015, and hopefully the vandals have moved on with their lives by now. I figured I should ask you before changing it myself, though. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 00:26, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
- @TheCatalyst31: Thanks for the nudge, I'd forgotten all about protecting the article. I've unprotected, and we'll see how things go. Best, Mackensen (talk) 12:41, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
E60
Do you have a copy of the Cudder source for the E60? The sentence in the E60 article is the only reference I've seen to E60s operating on the Keystone Service. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:08, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Pi.1415926535: You have mail. Mackensen (talk) 05:14, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
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Rail templates
Hey, could you take a look at these templates? They are unused but you haven't nominated them so wasn't sure what their status is. Template:SE-Hesse color, Template:SE-Hesse lines, Template:SEMTA lines, Template:SEMTA stations, Template:SEPTA lines/branches, Template:SEQ-rail-network, Template:SESHR lines, Template:SESHR stations, Template:SFP&P color, Template:SFP&P lines, Template:SFP&P stations, Template:SFSR station. Thanks! --Gonnym (talk) 16:12, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
- I can speedy those if you'd like. Cards84664 (talk) 16:51, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
- I expected Template:SEPTA lines/branches to be deleted along with Template:SEPTA lines; it's tagged G8 now. Haven't looked at the others yet. Mackensen (talk) 17:00, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
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Train station template to LUA nominations
I notice you've done quite a few similar nominations. I was wondering if you'd done step three of the TfD process and notified the author of said templates, Gfoley4, since they could speed up the deletion process by agreeing to the deletion, allowing it to be deleted under G7 in many cases. eπi (talk | contribs) 10:38, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
- @E to the Pi times i: I don't think a G7 would be appropriate in many of these cases. The individual author aside, the templates are effectively all part of a group, and the deletion nomination serves as notice to the broader group of trains editors that the migration is complete. Mackensen (talk) 13:22, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
- Is each set of templates really all that different? I've seen many different batches, but I'm not sure how contextually different each set is.
- As for broader groups of train editors, I guess my question here would be how often these templates are placed on new articles.
- But eh, I guess the TfDs are probably gradual enough; my concern was train nominations taking over TfD, but I don't think we've quite arrived at that point. eπi (talk | contribs) 13:45, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
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... The Rambling Man's mode of conduct undercuts whatever usefulness he contributes in project space ... well shucks, but clearly that's not the case. I just don't suffer fools gladly, like the some of the rest of the people here who appear to have taken over the asylum. I'll gladly withdraw my dozen or so FAs, 100+ FLs, around 200 GAs etc, and the 1800+ errors I've picked up on the main page in the last ten months alone. Is there a form for that? In the mean time, do try to be a little more objective when closing out ANI reports. Summary: C+. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:02, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
- @The Rambling Man: I've never shared the belief that good works justify treating other editors with contempt, even when they deserve it. If you're looking for a door to flounce through I can't help you with that. Mackensen (talk) 22:30, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
- No, I'm not looking for your help in anything. My experience and quality here transcends any "advice" you could offer. But cheers for the personal attack in the ANI closure. Great work, proud moment. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:18, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
- @The Rambling Man: I will happily defer to your experience on personal attacks, and you should of course continue to conduct yourself in whatever manner you think is most effective. Best, Mackensen (talk) 23:27, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, I have plenty of experience of being personally attacked, even by admins. It's disgusting, but somehow it's fair game when it's me receiving it. Funny old world. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:33, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
- This entire thread is a monument to a lack of critical self-awareness. I've got a shovel somewhere if you need to dig that hole deeper. Mackensen (talk) 13:06, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
- Actually no, it's about an abuse of position using personal attacks in closing discussions, but you're in the club and I'm not, so there you go. And no, the grave-diggers have got the shovel for the moment, so you'll have to wait. But anyway, have a wonderful Monday, richly deserved. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:11, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
- This entire thread is a monument to a lack of critical self-awareness. I've got a shovel somewhere if you need to dig that hole deeper. Mackensen (talk) 13:06, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, I have plenty of experience of being personally attacked, even by admins. It's disgusting, but somehow it's fair game when it's me receiving it. Funny old world. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:33, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
- @The Rambling Man: I will happily defer to your experience on personal attacks, and you should of course continue to conduct yourself in whatever manner you think is most effective. Best, Mackensen (talk) 23:27, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
- No, I'm not looking for your help in anything. My experience and quality here transcends any "advice" you could offer. But cheers for the personal attack in the ANI closure. Great work, proud moment. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:18, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
Deletion of article about Dr Gregory Kramer
Hi. You deleted my article in process of markup on Gremory Kramer on the basis of paragraph A7. This is not understandable, if you read the history of the person, as amplified in the second half of the article. He is THE seminal and historically most important figure it the field of data sonification (c.f) an Auditory Display (c.f.) He is responsible for the formation of ICAD (c.f.) and remains an emeritus member of its Board, which, amongst other things, has run 20 annual international conferences on the now generally considered crucial field for the discovery of gravity waves etc. As the entry says, he published the first book in the field, and is the most heavily referenced author in it. I do not believe your deletion is warranted without further justification. Please Undelete. PS. How do I even get access to it at this stage? Yergnaws (talk) 13:55, 30 June 2019 (UTC)YernawsYergnaws (talk) 13:55, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Yergnaws: Good morning. There were a few issues with Gregory Kramer. The first was that most of the content was apparently copied from [2], in violation of Wikipedia:Copyrights. The remaining part of the article was sourced entirely to his own writings, and it read like a blurb. It might be a good idea to start with a draft for this article before re-creating it in the article namespace. I would be willing to supply the non-copyright violating text as a basis. Alternatively you can seek to overturn the deletion Wikipedia:Deletion review. Best, Mackensen (talk) 14:03, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
Good afternoon. The convolution between the messages to me from Diannaa and then you, were confusing. For the sake of non-duplication, please see the discussion on her talk page. Now, to the point you make. You say that "most of the content was apparently copied..." apparent, perhaps, but not in fact, as I explained in the discussion with Diannaa. You further say that "The remaining part of the article was sourced entirely to his own writings, and it read like a blurb." With respect, that is simply not true, as a cursory look at Wikipedia's entries on Sonification, Auditory_Display and International_Community_for_Auditory_Display, none of which were written by me or the Subject, will easily attest. You will note, for example that his groundbreaking book is referenced on all sites. To describe it as a "blurb" is ill-informed, to put it politely.
Further, I would be pleased if you could explain how the measure you took to unceremoniously delete the entry - apparently in a way in which I cannot recover any of it - is in the spirit of Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion and/or biographical pages, bearing in mind I am an occasional contributor with good intent. IMO, the polite professional approach should have been to engage with me and perhaps advise me to mark the entry as Draft, or some other such process. In any event, the irony of the Subject providing me with text he wrote on which to base my initial sketch, which, unbeknown to him, he seems to no longer holds copyright on does not pass unnoticed. It seems the only way forward is to write a more extensive article in which the small piece of factual information I have used is eclipsed by a bigger picture. I will proceed as you suggest. Regards, Yergnaws (talk) 18:21, 1 July 2019 (UTC)yergnaws .
NWP stations
Do you have a preferred timetable for NWP stations? It seems like a shame to only have the 1956 timetable for the Redwood - I think it dropped a number of stations (including Windsor) just a few years before. It's additionally confusing because (unlike the Eastern and Midwest roads I'm used to), the NWP never had much of an effect on the location of population centers. Note for example Millers station in the 1915 timetable - it appears to have been a flag stop serving a single house. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:17, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Pi.1415926535: Nothing specific beyond the linked timetable and old Official Guides. I'm having trouble correlating those with what's in the articles. The interurban railroads are particularly troublesome. Mackensen (talk) 04:05, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
- Good news: this massive collection has a number of NWP timetables (mostly ETTs). this 1933 ETT should be good for the interurban stops. I think "Interurban" or "Interurban Lines" is as close to an official name as we're going to get there. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:31, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
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Thanks alot sir, I'm glad that you responded so fast towards my article creation. And also you guide me that I didn't do any mistake by creating an article on any delete article. But I will rectify my mistake. If I ever created an article on a previous delete page would definitely take assistance before going forward. MDPMHG (talk) 05:10, 1 July 2019 (UTC) |
Deletion of Draft:Lorenzo_DeStefano
I have had the owner of the website send a release to permissions-en@wikimedia.org with Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported and GNU Free Documentation License (ticket #2019070110001636.) I have also added "OTRS pending" template to the talk page. Can I get the page restored while the license is reviewed? Rminsk (talk) 06:29, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Rminsk: The text as written is promotional in tone (understandably) and probably wouldn't be suitable for inclusion "as is" even without the copyright issue. You'd be better off rewriting it from reliable sources. Mackensen (talk) 12:56, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Mackensen: That is why it was a draft, so I could work on cleaning it up and making less promotional. I thought the Draft namespace is for creating and developing new articles for a limited period of time. Rminsk (talk) 18:07, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
Module:Adjacent stations/JR East, others in Tokyo
I stopped converting templates from ja-rail-line to s-line a while back because I assumed we would create a module at some point.
Will adjacent stations be able to handle Japan's new-ish trend of slapping a number on every station? As well as how there is a mix of lines with different local/express services, as well as independent trains (denoted in italics per usual). (here's an easy example and a difficult example). Transcluding the information itself won't be a problem for me, I'm accustomed to the complexity of it all. Cards84664 (talk) 15:47, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Cards84664: Yikes. The numbers are a challenge. My inclination is to say that the numbers shouldn't be displayed in succession boxes, and that it's enough to display them in the station header. In the alternative, the {{adjacent stations}} note-left and note-right parameters do accept templates as input (e.g. {{JRSN|JS|19|tlc=SBY|size=20}}) and display it correctly. Mackensen (talk) 12:11, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- We'll be better off by keeping the numbers, as there are quite a few cases of named trains jumping from line to line (icons distinguished by color), and even some cases of jumping from company to company (icons distinguished by shape). Two examples of the latter are Hadano Station (Romancecar) and Ikebukuro Station (S-Train). The icons are designed to be distinct from one another's companies to prevent further confusion. The only exception to that is the municipal and private subways in Tokyo sharing icon styles. Cards84664 (talk) 16:04, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Cards84664: Fair enough. This would seem to be an opportunity to retire {{Ja-rail-color}} and let the adjacent stations data module handle the color resolution. Mackensen (talk) 16:11, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- To clarify: I think the station numbers should be kept in the note fields and out of the module; it needs to be possible to return the station name without the number. Mackensen (talk) 16:16, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I knew that was what you were implying with note-left and note-right.
- We'll be better off by keeping the numbers, as there are quite a few cases of named trains jumping from line to line (icons distinguished by color), and even some cases of jumping from company to company (icons distinguished by shape). Two examples of the latter are Hadano Station (Romancecar) and Ikebukuro Station (S-Train). The icons are designed to be distinct from one another's companies to prevent further confusion. The only exception to that is the municipal and private subways in Tokyo sharing icon styles. Cards84664 (talk) 16:04, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- I'm hoping to retire {{ja-rail-line}} someday as well. It has held on much longer than {{Infobox Japan station}}, that's for sure.
- Anyways, if you want an easy one to start with, try Module:Adjacent stations/Toei Subway.
- {{Toei Subway color}}, {{Toei Subway lines}}, {{Toei Subway stations}}.
- Only four lines here, the only real oddity is Tochōmae Station, the Oedo line loops back onto itself before going out to its suburban terminus. Cards84664 (talk) 16:31, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
For stations like Shimo-kitazawa, is the module capable of using note-mid to change the termini, or does that have to be applied manually like with s-line? Cards84664 (talk) 18:05, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Cards84664: Two options, as with s-line. You can override it manually with to-left and to-right, or define a type (similar to s-line's branch) and do it that way. I think the latter only makes since for different physical branches. Mackensen (talk) 05:01, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
- For now, I'm going to start on the suburban lines to the north, since those don't have any color/icon issues to sort out. Cards84664 (talk) 19:15, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
CalTrain
Could you kindly clip this article? It finally provides a definite end date (and cause of death) for CalTrain. Thanks, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:40, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Pi.1415926535: Done: State PUC dumps commuter train. Mackensen (talk) 22:43, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
Disambiguation needed
With this edit to Roanoke station (Virginia) you introduced a link to Bristol station, a disambiguation page. I'm presuming you meant to link to Bristol station (Virginia) but I'm not awake enough to figure out how to adjust the adjacent stations template to fix it myself. Thryduulf (talk) 22:56, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Thryduulf: Thanks. I was even thinking about Bristol as I set up the template and then it slipped my mind. Fixed: [3]. Mackensen (talk) 22:58, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
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High Speed Rail ( HSR ) vs Higher Speed Rail
The disruptive edits pushing the non-encyclopedic term "Higher Speed Rail" need to end. This is a long running debate & it's well accepted and known that High Speed Rail ( HSR ) is not only valid but the term to use in the contect of Wikipedia. If you're writing a PhD thesis for some civil engineering stuff, knock yourself out with the pedantic "Higher Speed Rail". Outside of specialized subjects it's not appropriate. Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions did not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you.
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- @2601:346:280:833:c8d8:d7a9:2a5a:cf8: You should go gain consensus for your view at Higher-speed rail and High-speed rail. It would be more productive than your current mode of engagement. Mackensen (talk) 18:29, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
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Template:MUNI stations
I think I've now replaced all uses of {{MUNI stations}} and its associated data templates, as well as little-used redirects {{MUNI}}, {{sfms}}, {{MUNIs}}, and {{MUNI heritage stations}}. (I do still have a bit of cleanup to do with the new module, which I should finish shortly). Would you mind doing the deletion nom? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 09:27, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Pi.1415926535: Not at all; done. Thanks for finishing that up. Mackensen (talk) 14:06, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
- Side question: Is there any way to specify a station in an adjacent stations module as not being a link? For some instances (particularly some old Muni terminals) it'd e nice to just have plaintext with no link. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:15, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Pi.1415926535: I don't believe so; I'd noticed that pattern in some of the old MBTA Silver Line stops as well. From a meta perspective, a navigation box that doesn't link isn't very useful. Mackensen (talk) 21:30, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, that is generally true. There are a few instances (I'm encountering one where several block-long BART stations have two F Market & Wharves stops above them at either end) where the ability not to link would be more useful than not. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:37, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Pi.1415926535: I don't believe so; I'd noticed that pattern in some of the old MBTA Silver Line stops as well. From a meta perspective, a navigation box that doesn't link isn't very useful. Mackensen (talk) 21:30, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Side question: Is there any way to specify a station in an adjacent stations module as not being a link? For some instances (particularly some old Muni terminals) it'd e nice to just have plaintext with no link. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:15, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
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EMD F7
In this edit, you commented WP:COPYVIOEL don't apply to citations. I have heard from an administrator Diannaa who is a copyright expert that it is applicable in this discussion. FYI. If you have any comment, please chime into the thread. Graywalls (talk) 01:58, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Graywalls: That discussion doesn't appear to support the action that you took on the EMD F7 article. It might be appropriate to remove the direct link and convert it into an unlinked citation. I would note that the overarching guideline on external links, of which WP:COPYVIOEL is a part, specifically says "This guideline does not apply to inline citations or general references". Beyond all this, it's not entirely clear that the operator manuals for the F7, and other locomotives, are even still under copyright. Mackensen (talk) 03:45, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- Okay, I see what you're referring to. That's bad wording on the guideline page, but my other point stands. Linking out to scanned manuals of locomotives that are no longer sold, where that website is not profiting in any way, is almost certainly permissible fair use. Mackensen (talk) 03:50, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- I am not so certain. That might be so if it was a "snippet" preview, but I'd be inclined to say otherwise on a website that is a repository of a bunch of full scanned PDFs of manuals. One of those pages contained full scan of a journal, which offers no preview on Google Books. If it wasn't of copyright issues, Google would be making the whole thing viewable. I don't believe "not being available anymore publicly" makes a case for posting copies online under fair use. In the case of this specific resource, the copyright holder wasn't amused either and sent one of those websites a cease and desist. http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/88/p/194242/2121229.aspx Graywalls (talk) 04:00, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- Reply moved to Talk:EMD F7. Mackensen (talk) 04:09, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- I am not so certain. That might be so if it was a "snippet" preview, but I'd be inclined to say otherwise on a website that is a repository of a bunch of full scanned PDFs of manuals. One of those pages contained full scan of a journal, which offers no preview on Google Books. If it wasn't of copyright issues, Google would be making the whole thing viewable. I don't believe "not being available anymore publicly" makes a case for posting copies online under fair use. In the case of this specific resource, the copyright holder wasn't amused either and sent one of those websites a cease and desist. http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/88/p/194242/2121229.aspx Graywalls (talk) 04:00, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
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Tokyo Metro through trains
Here's a rather unique situation: Shinjuku-sanchōme Station serves the S-Train, a named train that operates continuously between the Tokyo Metro and other commuter rail companies. The operators switch out at their respective transfer points, so I was wondering if there's a way with Template:Adjacent stations to display a line from one company (Seibu) underneath another company's title bar (Metro). (Below is an example in s-line)
If not, I'll just add the same line under both companies when I create Module:Adjacent stations/Tokyo Metro and Module:Adjacent stations/Seibu Railway. Cards84664 (talk) 16:34, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Cards84664: I don't believe that's possible, so I think your solution of having it in both companies/systems templates makes sense. Mackensen (talk) 17:34, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
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2018 First Responder Bowl
Hi there, just wanted to let you know I undid your removal of the game summary section. While the game didn't officially count, some play did take place, so I think we should keep the summary. If I'm wrong I'm open to hearing feedback. Thanks! eπ/💬 04:21, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Etothepi: Thanks for your note. Let's continue this discussion at Talk:2018 First Responder Bowl#Game summary. It's an unusual situation. Mackensen (talk) 04:25, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
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Swiss stop names
Hi Mackensen, I appreciate your work concerning the Swiss transport system. I also perceived you thoroughly take usage of the Module:Adjacent station. There you use sometimes an English translation for stop names, such as Lucerne. I however would propose to use the official name (here: Luzern) for any stop name, since they are used like proper names (never translated); not necessarily for the station's name ("Lucerne railway station"), since these are two different things, though very closely related. However, the stop name on any official timetable will always stay the same, in whichever language region you are. Indeed helpful for any public transport user. What do you think? -- ZH8000 (talk) 12:40, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
- @ZH8000: Well, I'm unclear on the correct approach with station names where the foreign name is translated, and usage is inconsistent. Compare Lucerne railway station (created in 2009, not by me) and Lucerne with Milano Centrale railway station and Milan. See also Luzern Allmend/Messe railway station, where the English name was not used. I'd like to dig into the relevant guidelines before offering a view. To be clear, you're proposing using "Luzern" (z.B.) for stations other than the main station in Lucerne. where it's a proper name? Mackensen (talk) 13:42, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
- Please note: that this is the :en Wikipedia. Per WP:CIR, if you cannot post in English, do not post at all.
- As this is the :en Wikipedia, any place name that has an English translation should be given using that English translation.
- Note: That ZH8000 has a long history of trying to change articles about Switzerland on the :en Wikipedia to match his personal take on how he thinks Wikipedia should be presented. 109.152.226.237 (talk) 13:50, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Please see note on your DYK review. Google Translate is actually pretty good about translating Korean. Yoninah (talk) 00:16, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
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Adjancent stations for Rock Island
Hey. I went to the trouble of getting Rock Island infoboxes in, but apparently RI is not in the Adjacent stations system. This problem manifests itself the worst at Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific Depot Freight House and Train Shed for Minneapolis, because I can't get these two (s-rail and adjacent stations) together. Wondering if RI is in the plans? Mitch32(Fame is a four letter word.) 20:41, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Mitchazenia: It exists: Module:Adjacent stations/Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific Railroad. Mackensen (talk) 21:23, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
- I feel like that should be consolidated to Rock Island Lines for this stuff. I get the official name and all, but that's incredibly long to use. (Not a fan the station titles use that either.) Thanks though. Also, I have echo turned off. ;) Mitch32(Fame is a four letter word.) 23:35, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Afd Emin Boztepe
Hi I have created an afd for Emin Boztepe as you mentioned but I’m not certain it’s correct, can you please advise if I have done it properly. Australianblackbelt (talk) 04:34, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Australianblackbelt: Yes, it looks right. Mackensen (talk) 12:09, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
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Template:Adjacent stations
Does Adjacent stations have a circular parameter? As an example, Nippori Station needs one for the Yamanote line. Cards84664 (talk) 19:45, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Cards84664: Yes. A good example of it is the S4 of the Module:Adjacent stations/St. Gallen S-Bahn See Sevelen railway station for default usage; Sargans railway station for an override. Mackensen (talk) 20:15, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
- Oh my bad, I looked at the documentation for the Template, not the Module. Cards84664 (talk) 22:09, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
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I have overhauled the module, replacing sporadic former services with branches and former branches. I have kept your reversal of the Congress branch intact, but I will be keeping branch names away from current services. They are redundant to the line parameter of the station infoboxes (save Ashland, Cermak, East 63rd). Pre-1993 branches that have not changed significantly over their service-operating history will also display current colors. I'll also keep the Loop Shuttle intact, since it's a lot easier to navigate to the old Randolph and Madison stations that way. Cards84664 (talk) 06:36, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
- A good example of the updates I've made so far is Harvard station (CTA). I've covered 2017 to 1992 so far, and tomorrow I'll continue from 1982 down. Cards84664 (talk) 10:59, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Cards84664: Looks good, thanks for doing that. Mackensen (talk) 14:18, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
- Finished up today, the last of which being Fifth/Lake station. I also moved the Northwest branch to Logan Square branch, mainly due to conflicting sources across multiple articles, and because the 1898 map is solid proof of the name used. Cards84664 14:32, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- All s-line templates related to the CTA may now be deleted, all transclusions have been replaced. Cards84664 19:05, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Cards84664: Taking a look at this now; I think CTA color still has some cleanup. Could be a dependent rint template. Mackensen (talk) 12:16, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Cards84664: As I suspected, the non-current CTA stuff in {{Rail-interchange}} isn't used. I think it should just be removed. Mackensen (talk) 16:47, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
- All s-line templates related to the CTA may now be deleted, all transclusions have been replaced. Cards84664 19:05, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
- Finished up today, the last of which being Fifth/Lake station. I also moved the Northwest branch to Logan Square branch, mainly due to conflicting sources across multiple articles, and because the 1898 map is solid proof of the name used. Cards84664 14:32, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
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Single-purpose account for adding a useless infobox field, immediate knowledge of an obscure template, immediately combative behavior... I can't put my finger on what, but something about this editor makes me suspicious. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:58, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Pi.1415926535: No one springs to mind, but it's unusual. Mackensen (talk) 11:32, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
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Harv thing, my eyesight on not the best screen (im on the road) and I'd thought I'd triple checked ... eyeballs still didnt managed to catch it. Probably should have checked the template source. Thanks for picking up my typos .... Djm-leighpark (talk) 14:04, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
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Why in the world...
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...was there an RTL Turboliner at Columbus Union Station in 1977? Being delivered (where were they made?) or a press run, perhaps? Once again, you can thank Hikki Nagasaki for a rare shot and a mystery. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:39, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Pi.1415926535: That's puzzling. The National Limited was still in operation, but I can't believe they'd sub in Turboliner equipment. It has to be some kind of demonstration run. Mackensen (talk) 12:43, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
- Amtrak wasn't even using Columbus Union Station by November 1977 - though the smokestack indicates someone still was. Do you have any info on where the Turboliners were manufactured? I can't find it in the article. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:24, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
- Presumably Chula Vista, California. The sources I have access to don't discuss the fabrication and assembly in any depth. Mackensen (talk) 20:15, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
- There's a reference to a press run here, though it's in 1976. That date makes more sense in any event; by November 1977 Union Station was disused and the RTLs were in revenue service. Mackensen (talk) 20:24, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
- Here is a RS that confirms that, and that the RTGs were indeed built in France. Do you mind adding it? (I'm not so skilled with Harvard style.) I've added a note to the file about the possible misdate. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:27, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
- Amtrak wasn't even using Columbus Union Station by November 1977 - though the smokestack indicates someone still was. Do you have any info on where the Turboliners were manufactured? I can't find it in the article. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:24, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
Template:WMATA color
FYI, this template has been recreated after it was deleted here. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 18:31, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
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Hi-level scheduled for TFA
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Nomination for deletion of Template:S-line/Transperth left/Armadale
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Undeletion of Terrorist incidents in Pakistan in 2020
I was looking to expand the said article with new entries, the recent Pakistan Stock Exchange attack but found it deleted. I thought to create it but then thought of requesting for restoration if possible. USaamo (t@lk) 12:07, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- @USaamo: there wasn't much in the original article, and given the reason for deletion it's probably better to start with a clean edit history. Mackensen (talk) 12:29, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- How about moving thr said article into draft space to work on and then publish? USaamo (t@lk) 13:08, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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Protection indefinite
Is there by any chance you could protect these articles Strasburg Rail Road and Canadian National 7312 indefinite. Because various IP address users keeps changing the info on both articles without sourcing the information first, it has gone too far and they both need to be protected indefinite to prevent any further damage. 2600:1000:B016:75F1:ECFF:9F72:5B04:ACD9 (talk) 18:27, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
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A tag has been placed on Category:Wikipedia requested images of Muni Metro stations requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.
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Nomination for merging of Template:Infobox GB station
Template:Infobox GB station has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox station. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 19:45, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:New South Wales rail succession templates
See [4] I have started to convert these to Adjacent stations which is going to be a big job - over 100 templates involved. I am trying to get rid of as many of these templates as possible and I think I can achieve this for most except the color and style templates. In the case of color templates some articles I have converted like Victoria Cross railway station when I edit them again and then look at what templates are used, they show some unexpected ones. For this station I would not have expected Template:Sydney Trains color or Template:NSW TrainLink color to be shown and possibly also Template:Sydney Metro color although the third one may be present because this station does use Metro options in the Adjacent stations. Do you know why these templates would come up in this station? I am making some use of Module:Adjacent stations/State Rail Authority which you created last year.
- On a different subject I recently read something about the succession templates for the Sydney City Circle (written by you back in about 2007). In the conversion to Adjacent stations I have totally rehashed the information as shown in Circular Quay railway station. Any comments? Fleet Lists (talk) 07:18, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- I have found that they are brought in by Template:Transport for New South Wales railway stations which will be hard to get rid of. So we might be stuck with the color templates. Or do you know of any other solution?Fleet Lists (talk) 08:14, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- The {{rcb}} and {{rcr}} templates can be used to display colors and related information that are defined in the adjacent stations modules. I helped with this on {{Public Transport Authority of Western Australia railway stations}}, which is basically the same concept. Mackensen (talk) 11:37, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for that - I had actually just found the Western Australian template when you replied so I was on the right track. Fleet Lists (talk) 12:10, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- I have now amended Template:Transport for New South Wales railway stations for Sydney Metro only as a trial which reduced the number of links to Template:Sydney Metro color from over 400 to 53 which was promising. There were a number of stations listed which can be explained as they have not yet been converted to Adjusted Stations. But there were a number of train lines listed for example Olympic Park railway line which were either caused by Template:TFNSW_lines or Template:TFNSW nav/Sydney Trains and Metro which I have both changed resolving all problems. Thank you. I will do the other operators as I get time. Fleet Lists (talk) 03:47, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for that - I had actually just found the Western Australian template when you replied so I was on the right track. Fleet Lists (talk) 12:10, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- The {{rcb}} and {{rcr}} templates can be used to display colors and related information that are defined in the adjacent stations modules. I helped with this on {{Public Transport Authority of Western Australia railway stations}}, which is basically the same concept. Mackensen (talk) 11:37, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- I have found that they are brought in by Template:Transport for New South Wales railway stations which will be hard to get rid of. So we might be stuck with the color templates. Or do you know of any other solution?Fleet Lists (talk) 08:14, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- I am surprised at how many templates and articles I have found which have needed changing but I think I have now covered most with Template:Rint still causing some problems which I hope to solve in the next couple of days - I will then need to submit the changes for update. I hope to make the last change for Sydney Metro tomorrow so that I can start on a deletion request for all templates in the Sydney Metro category. Module:Adjacent stations/State Rail Authority is causing me some concern as it includes closed lines which may or may not have been operated by the State Rail Authority with up to 20 more such lines to be added. I have already changed the title within the module to "Closed Lines" which seems more appropriate. However if I move the module to a name like "Closed Lines in NSW" I believe a redirect will not be created. What would be the best process to achieve this?Fleet Lists (talk) 04:36, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
- Well, it depends. If they didn't operate them then I'd find the entity that did and make a separate module. If they did operate them then I think it's fine to commingle current and former lines; that's done with many other systems. I wouldn't incorporate "closed lines" into the actual name of the module. Mackensen (talk) 11:23, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks. I have added a comment about this on the documentation page. We have comingled current and recently closed lines in the Sydney Trains module.Fleet Lists (talk) 23:46, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
- Well, it depends. If they didn't operate them then I'd find the entity that did and make a separate module. If they did operate them then I think it's fine to commingle current and former lines; that's done with many other systems. I wouldn't incorporate "closed lines" into the actual name of the module. Mackensen (talk) 11:23, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Sydney Metro color
Template:Sydney Metro color has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. This also applies to all other templates in [5]. This is the first step to convert all succession templates in New South Wales, Australia to Template:Adjacent stations Fleet Lists (talk) 02:13, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
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Nomination for deletion of Template:Newcastle Light Rail color
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Nomination for deletion of Template:Closed Lines color
Template:Closed Lines color has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. This also applies to all other templates in [7]. This is the third step to convert all succession templates in New South Wales, Australia to Template:Adjacent stationsFleet Lists (talk) 05:30, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
Adjacent stations: Preceding and Following
Per another one of these edits, do you think we should consider renaming/replacing "Preceding" and "Following"? I also need you to be the second opinion with that edit regardless. Cards84664 06:39, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
- Cards84664, preceding/following have been the standard since at least 2005. I'm not of the mind to change them; I barely even look at them. For me it's more important that left/right vaguely corresponds to whatever map is in play. I'm not a fan of the outcome of that edit, but I suppose the editor has a point, semantically. Mackensen (talk) 12:14, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
The following templates have been nominated for deletion:
- Template:GSR color (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:GSR lines (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:GSR stations (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:GSR style (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:S-line/GSR left/Indian Pacific (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:S-line/GSR left/The Ghan (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:S-line/GSR left/The Overland (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:S-line/GSR right/Indian Pacific (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:S-line/GSR right/The Ghan (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:S-line/GSR right/The Overland (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. – McVahl (talk) 03:49, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
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Nomination for deletion of Template:Newcastle Ferries color
Template:Newcastle Ferries color has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. This also applies to all other templates in [8]. This is the fourth step to convert all succession templates in New South Wales, Australia to Template:Adjacent stationsFleet Lists (talk) 02:10, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Brisbane Ferry templates
- Template:CityCat color (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:CityCat lines (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:CityCat stations (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:S-line/CityCat left/CityCat (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:S-line/CityCat right/CityCat (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:CityFerry color (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:CityFerry lines (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:CityFerry stations (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:S-line/CityFerry left/CityHopper (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:S-line/CityFerry left/Cross River Ferries - Bulimba (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:S-line/CityFerry left/Cross River Ferries - Holman Street (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:S-line/CityFerry left/Cross River Ferries - Norman Park (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:S-line/CityFerry left/Inner City Ferry (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:S-line/CityFerry right/CityHopper (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:S-line/CityFerry right/Cross River Ferries - Bulimba (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:S-line/CityFerry right/Cross River Ferries - Holman Street (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:S-line/CityFerry right/Cross River Ferries - Norman Park (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:S-line/CityFerry right/Inner City Ferry (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Deprecated {{s-line}} templates replaced by Module:Adjacent stations/Brisbane Ferries. Fleet Lists (talk) 05:28, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
Brisbane Light Rail templates
- Template:G:link color (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:G:link lines (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:G:link stations (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:G:link style (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:S-line/G:link left/G:link (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
- Template:S-line/G:link right/G:link (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Deprecated {{s-line}} templates replaced by Module:Adjacent stations/G:link. Fleet Lists (talk) 00:47, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Sydney Trains color
Template:Sydney Trains color has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. This also applies to all other templates in [9]. This is the fifth step to convert all succession templates in New South Wales, Australia to Template:Adjacent stationsFleet Lists (talk) 04:55, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Sydney Ferries color
Template:Sydney Ferries color has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. This also applies to all other templates in [10]. This is the sixth step to convert all succession templates in New South Wales, Australia to Template:Adjacent stations Fleet Lists (talk) 03:46, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
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In conversion to Adjacent Stations for New South Wales only at this stage, I would like to see the links to Break of Gauge particularly and to a lesser extent to Mywee suppressed. Is there any way this can be done. Or do you have a better way of doing this. Thanks in advance.Fleet Lists (talk) 10:31, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
- Fleet Lists, if I understand the situation there are two lines at Tocumwal, the Victoria (broad gauge) and New South Wales (standard gauge) Tocumwal lines. I wouldn't mention the break-of-gauge at all, not in adjacent stations. Mackensen (talk) 11:47, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:TransLink (SEQ) color
Template:TransLink (SEQ) color has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. This also applies to Template:TransLink (SEQ) style, Template:Translink color, Template:Translink lines, Template:Translink stations, Template:Translink style, Template:S-line/Translink left/Eastern, Template:S-line/Translink left/Northern, Template:S-line/Translink left/South East, Template:S-line/Translink right/Eastern, Template:S-line/Translink right/Northern and Template:S-line/Translink right/South East Fleet Lists (talk) 05:35, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
GE E25B
I got bored and stubbed out an article on the GE E25B; hopefully I didn't step on your toes there. It's right up with the M-K TE70-4S in obscurity, and perhaps even harder to find good information on. None of the three sources agree on when the last two locomotives arrived, and Kalmbach gives horsepower and length that contradict other sources. (Kalmbach's 2500hp would match the designation, but two other sources indicate 4000hp). Unfortunately I don't think it's closely related enough to the E60 to just have a paragraph there. Any additions or comments would be welcome; it looks like there may have been a 1976 Railway Age article if you have access. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:37, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
- No toes were stepped on; I hadn't found much on it and no plans to write it up. That's a puzzling discrepancy with the horsepower. I'm wondering if this is similar to what happened with the EMD SDP40F (see EMD SDP40F#Design), wherein GE argues no, it's just a GE U25B with a pantograph, never mind the horsepower difference. Mid-1970s is square in the digitization hole, unfortunately, and given the pandemic my access to some sources is limited. Mackensen (talk) 11:46, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
- Pacific News had a write-up which I've linked in the article. They come down in favor of 2500 hp and furthermore say this: "The two thousand five hundred horsepower, spread among the four traction motors, provides 625 horsepower at each axle for coal hauling." Mackensen (talk) 12:10, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Pi.1415926535: there's an interesting entry here: [11] (go down to page 37). I haven't had any luck tracking down that paper or the proceedings yet, but I expect it would contain the definitive answer. Mackensen (talk) 01:01, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Chris Creighton
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Your GA nomination of Chris Creighton
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Nomination for deletion of Template:NSW TrainLink intercity color
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Charleston Amtrak station from 1/16/2008
Hey! I am really sorry if this is not the correct way to get in contact with you, but the Wikimedia page really confuses me! There are pictures at http://www.trainweb.org/usarail/charlestonsc.htm of the Charleston Amtrak station from 1/16/2008. I have been researching (A LOT) to try and find the creator of that page and have landed on you. Are these your pictures? I am researching an incident that happened near the tracks on that day in that area. I was hoping you might be able to either send me the photos, or let me know where I might find the photos with the original metadata. I am also interested in any other pictures you may have taken from the area that day, and if you have any memory or documentation of the schedule of the trains that day. I know it is a long shot, but I have found that train enthusiasts are excellent at data collection! Thank you so much! Chelsea ckopkas@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dobination (talk • contribs) 00:09, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Dobination, hello, thanks for reaching out. I did not take those pictures; they were taken by Hikki Nagasaki, who runs the USA Rail Guide. Unfortunately, he no longer publishes his contact information so I'm not sure the best way to get in touch with him. Best, Mackensen (talk) 00:42, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
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In case you hadn't seen it on your trips there, NWU has a sizable collection of scanned dining car menus. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:53, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
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COVID-19 survivors
How come this category is locked? We have a cateogry for Cancer survivors. Why should COVID-19 survivors not get a category too? --ThisIsSparta2007 (talk) 12:45, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
- ThisIsSparta2007, this was discussed last March at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 March 9#Category:People with coronavirus disease 2019. The consensus at the time was that having COVID was a non-defining characteristic. There was a brief follow-up discussion in September: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 September 14. Best, Mackensen (talk) 12:54, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
CF du ARB
No need to ping me anymore, I'm watching the article/talk page for the next week. Mjroots (talk) 17:18, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Henry John Temple, 3rd Viscount Palmerston § Requested move 10 February 2021. Hi there! Just thought to let you know of my proposal to move this article back to the title you had chosen just over fifteen years ago. Thanks, ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 18:57, 10 February 2021 (UTC)Template:Z48
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PATCO
Did the speedline open on February 15th (link) or January 4th (link), 1969? PATCO themselves don't seem to know. (I started researching the under-studied Philadelphia-Seashore lines, but I was instantly stumped by this) Cards84664 20:26, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Cards84664: Both dates are half-correct. Bridge Line trains (16th+Locust–Camden) were suspended on December 29, 1968, for conversion. The Camden–Lindenwold segment opened January 4; the 16th+Locust–Camden segment reopened on February 15. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:04, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, if the Philadelphia segment was supposed to open on February 1st as noted in the article, the February 15th date needs to be removed from the NJ station articles and I’ll do that now. Cards84664 21:12, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Pi.1415926535: Does “Camden” on January 4th refer to City Hall or Broadway on the subway? Cards84664 21:25, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Cards84664: The former Bridge Line service was to Broadway, with City Hall as an intermediate station. The January 4th segment went as far as City Hall, with Broadway an intermediate. See here. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:41, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Closure date of Oakland
Because of a recent IP edit, I'm trying to nail down exactly when 16th Street station (or more accurately, the post-1989 temporary station) closed. The source in the article says August 5, 1994, but Amtrak in the Heartland (p. 153) says August 21. Newspapers.com wasn't helpful. Any chance you have relevant sources? Thanks, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 08:15, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Amtrak in the Heartland splits the difference; in that service to Emeryville starts on August 5, but that the temporary station closes on August 21. Sanders gives his source as various bulletins and railfanning publications. Our article is relying on the NARP bulletin which doesn't make that distinction. Pacific Rail News follows Sanders in giving two dates: [12] (page 4). Mackensen (talk) 12:02, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
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Reading Railroad module
After pouring over eight decades of Official Guides (1895–1965), as well as various branch timetables, I have gone ahead and updated the Reading module. In the Philadelphia area, I have changed the terminus of "Reading Terminal" to "Philadelphia" in the module, as this was biased towards 30th Street station. Second, I have denoted the difference between Philadelphia–Pottsville (Main Line) and Norristown Branch (Local) services (at Conshohocken station, for example). Third, I have added all remaining missing Reading branches to the module (see Reading Depot, for example). Fourth, I have redesigned the header signage, it no longer looks like a recolored NYC header. I was unable to add the white border, but we don't really need it. In regards to Reading Depot, the official sources don't use "outer station", (unless you know offhand if this was on signage and can cite it). Finally, I have transferred all physical track succession to actual services c. 1910–1940 (The link to Ninth Street Branch is retained in the "line" infobox parameter). Now that reliable schedule information has been sorted out, I can start gathering references for articles such as Girard Avenue station (linked via Temple University station, for example). In the coming weeks I will also be creating a module for the Philadelphia–Reading Seashore Lines. Cards84664 17:28, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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"Gallery of Presidents of the United States" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Spring Garden Street station
FYI, looks like Spring Garden Street station is on the ropes. I'm trying to reach out to the Philly wiki meetup group in hopes someone can get some pictures. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:42, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- Do we have enough sources of information on the demolished Reading stations to create articles? (Girard Avenue, Tioga, Logan, Nicetown) Cards84664 23:30, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- Cards84664, I went looking during my Reading phase (2016?) and didn't find much, not even articles on their closure, which I would consider the bare minimum. The problem is those names are just generic enough to flood the newspapers.com search. Mackensen (talk) 23:53, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- I've finished up Module:Adjacent stations/Pennsylvania-Reading Seashore Lines, let me know if I missed any articles that weren't in the station category. Cards84664 04:08, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Cards84664, I went looking during my Reading phase (2016?) and didn't find much, not even articles on their closure, which I would consider the bare minimum. The problem is those names are just generic enough to flood the newspapers.com search. Mackensen (talk) 23:53, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Module:Adjacent stations/Thello
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Help
Is there is any way to delete Draft:Fulguni Nair? Logical Puzzle (talk) 14:01, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Fulguni Nayar Logical Puzzle (talk) 14:01, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Draft:Fulguni Nayar Logical Puzzle (talk) 14:02, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Draft:Falguni Nayar Logical Puzzle (talk) 14:02, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Logical Puzzle, you've expressed concern over the prose, and that is indeed why the submission was declined. That doesn't justify an immediate deletion. Unless there is some other reason why it should be deleted at once, then no, there isn't at this time. Mackensen (talk) 14:22, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Errors in judgement?
I assume you're talking about Choess' posts at this link. I see the gadfly part but I don't see errors in judgement. Quote? EEng 15:15, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- EEng, apologies, the wording is slightly different. This is the relevant portion:
It's on balance a beneficial role, but incredibly polarizing, so that after some period of playing it, you'll have one group of people who are out to indef you on any pretext whatsoever, and another group that will write apologetics for you, even when you really are incivil to someone who didn't deserve it, or otherwise commit an error in judgment
. I no longer have any idea which is the correct way to spell judgment, if there be a correct way. Mackensen (talk) 15:18, 27 March 2021 (UTC)- I remember that quote, strikingly cogent. But EEng, you never really answered Mackensen's question did you? So what do you think about the implications of the above for you? Paul August ☎ 12:49, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- It's still on my ping list, and see the P.S. here [13] EEng 13:21, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Good. Thanks. (Please ping me when you do, thanks). Paul August ☎ 15:01, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- It's still on my ping list, and see the P.S. here [13] EEng 13:21, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- I remember that quote, strikingly cogent. But EEng, you never really answered Mackensen's question did you? So what do you think about the implications of the above for you? Paul August ☎ 12:49, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Valentine Browne
Dear Mackensen. Thank you so much for fixing my error with removing the Sir from the biographies of baronets. I thought Valentine Browne, 2nd Baronet was enough, but WP:NCPEER sees it differently as you pointed out. I am sorry. Thanks again. I will of course comply. I will also check whether I have not made that same mistake somewhere else and correct it where needed. Best regards Johannes Schade (talk) 15:25, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- Johannes Schade, no worries, and no apology needed. The convention is somewhat arcane and not at all obvious. Best wishes, Mackensen (talk) 15:28, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Crusader IP
Could you give 68.190.131.26 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) a longish block? They've been stable on that IP since August 2020, and the recent 1-month block has clearly not worked. Thanks, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:44, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
Sir George Courtenay, 1st Baronet
Dear Mackensen. I got myself into trouble. I had created an article George Courtenay, 1st Baronet, which had been reviewed and accepted, and edited a few times. You made me realise it must be called Sir George... according to WP:NCPEER, fine. So I moved it to Sir George... . However, there was a stupid redirect with that name to Courtenay Baronets. Now there seem to be two Sir George... . How should I have handled this correctly? With many thanks and best regards, Johannes Schade (talk) 17:10, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- Johannes Schade, let me make sure I understand. You've created Sir George Courtenay, 1st Baronet, of Newcastle, while Sir George Courtenay, 1st Baronet redirects to Courtenay baronets. Naturally, you'd like the article to be where the redirect is? The way to handle this would be to move the article over the redirect and then place a note at the top. I can handle that, if you confirm that I understand the situation correctly. Best, Mackensen (talk) 17:21, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Johannes Schade:, to be clear, you are not in trouble or anything. {{uw-blank1}} assumes good faith and is primarily there to provide the recipient with information. Having said that, as currently worded the template is not all the helpful for people who are seeking to move something in over a redirect, as appears to be the case for you. So for future reference you can either request that kind of move at WP:RM/TR or place
{{db-move|1=page to be moved|2=reason}}
on the page to have it deleted, keeping in mind that only the former of those processes can be used if the redirect has history worth preserving as a round-robin history swap will be needed. Apologies for the confusion, I had initially assumed you wanted the redirect deleted for other reasons and needed to be referenced to WP:RFD. Cheers, 51.79.156.12 (talk) 18:45, 30 March 2021 (UTC)- Dear Mackensen. I want the article George Courtenay, 1st Baronet to be moved to Sir George Courtenay, 1st Baronet and the Redirect of that name deleted. When I tried to move it, I was not aware of the Redirect's existence. I then blanked the Redirect as I had read somewhere that this can be interpreted as a request for deletion, but I should have used something more explicit, Thank you very much, Johannes Schade (talk) 19:30, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Johannes Schade: just trying to clear things up for both myself and Mackensen, but as I write, the article is at Sir George Courtenay, 1st Baronet, of Newcastle, there are redirects at Sir George Courtenay, 1st Baronet and George Courtenay, 1st Baronet, of Newcastle, so the article already has "sir" in the title. My initial understanding was you wanted the article at Sir George Courtenay, 1st Baronet which would convert Sir George Courtenay, 1st Baronet, of Newcastle into a redirect as well, is that correct? 51.79.156.12 (talk) 19:45, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- It is all fine now. Thanks all very much!!! Johannes Schade (talk) 19:54, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Johannes Schade: just trying to clear things up for both myself and Mackensen, but as I write, the article is at Sir George Courtenay, 1st Baronet, of Newcastle, there are redirects at Sir George Courtenay, 1st Baronet and George Courtenay, 1st Baronet, of Newcastle, so the article already has "sir" in the title. My initial understanding was you wanted the article at Sir George Courtenay, 1st Baronet which would convert Sir George Courtenay, 1st Baronet, of Newcastle into a redirect as well, is that correct? 51.79.156.12 (talk) 19:45, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- Dear Mackensen. I want the article George Courtenay, 1st Baronet to be moved to Sir George Courtenay, 1st Baronet and the Redirect of that name deleted. When I tried to move it, I was not aware of the Redirect's existence. I then blanked the Redirect as I had read somewhere that this can be interpreted as a request for deletion, but I should have used something more explicit, Thank you very much, Johannes Schade (talk) 19:30, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Johannes Schade:, to be clear, you are not in trouble or anything. {{uw-blank1}} assumes good faith and is primarily there to provide the recipient with information. Having said that, as currently worded the template is not all the helpful for people who are seeking to move something in over a redirect, as appears to be the case for you. So for future reference you can either request that kind of move at WP:RM/TR or place
I've fixed it up now, I think. Mackensen (talk) 19:48, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, you did there is of course only one Sir George Courtenay, 1st Baronet. With many thanks and best regards, Johannes Schade (talk) 20:04, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
Your opinion
Hi. I just wanted to invite you to the discussion Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Princess Leonore, Duchess of Gotland (2nd nomination). Since you had previously participated in similar discussions, I thought you might be able to provide us with some insights regarding this article. Thank you. Keivan.fTalk 16:18, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
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Please reconsider
In the RFC at Talk:Race and intelligence, editors who objected to that RFC's not addressing of the sourcing issue were specifically invited to open a separate RFC about that issue. (See the last sentence of the comment here.) Could you please reconsider your closure of the RFC in light of how it was opened in response to this invitation?
@Stonkaments: I'd like you to be aware of the discussion here as well, because I think the invitation to open a separate RFC was directed more to you than to me. If the thing you were invited to do won't actually be allowed, you should know that. --AndewNguyen (talk) 20:12, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- AndewNguyen, you should consider taking a break from this entire topic. Repeatedly opening new RfCs to push a particular outcome is a waste of everyone's time. The load-bearing part of JBL's comment was this: "
If there really is a fundamental issue not addressed by this RfC
". It's the clear consensus of the community that there is not such a fundamental issue, and you need to respect that. Mackensen (talk) 21:15, 9 May 2021 (UTC)