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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may '''contest the nomination''' by [[:Category:Jeremiah 31|visiting the page]] and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with [[Wikipedia:List of policies|Wikipedia's policies and guidelines]]. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the {{Querylink|Special:Log|qs=type=delete&page=Category%3AJeremiah+31|deleting administrator}}, or if you have already done so, you can place a request [[WP:RFUD|here]]. <!-- Template:Db-reason-notice --> [[User:Jeffro77|<span style='color:#365F91'>'''Jeffro'''</span><span style='color:#FFC000'>''77''</span>]] ([[User talk:Jeffro77|talk]]) 07:50, 16 June 2017 (UTC) |
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== Various issues == |
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I can see that you have put a fair bit of effort into some quite well sourced articles about various Bible chapters, but there are number of issues with your additions: |
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* [[WP:NOTSEEALSO|See also sections]] are for providing links to relevant articles that are ''not already linked'' in the main article. |
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* It is not suitable to create a category for Bible chapters that only contain the main article and a bunch of redirects to the same article. If there is a section about a particular verse in a given target article, just link to the section. |
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* It is not helpful to provide an article hatnote linking to a specific Bible chapter where the target is only a redirect to the article about the whole book. |
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This is not necessarily an exhaustive list of issues so far.--[[User:Jeffro77|<span style='color:#365F91'>'''Jeffro'''</span><span style='color:#FFC000'>''77''</span>]] ([[User talk:Jeffro77|talk]]) 08:14, 16 June 2017 (UTC) |
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Hi and thanks for your work! Note, the analysis of Verse 1 in this article came from a copyrighted web site, http://biblehub.com/commentaries/isaiah/45-1.htm so had to be removed. If I'm wrong, and that site actually took that content from somewhere else that was freely published, please let me know so it can be restored and proper attribution given. Thanks! CrowCaw 23:29, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Crow: The analysis of Verse 1 is taken from several individual sources. The online texts can be viewed at Studylight.org and Sacred-Texts.com. Regarding these resources, it is stated in the main webpage of the latter:
This page indexes fifteen Biblical commentaries, all believed to be in the public domain in the US due to publication prior to 1923. All of the Bible references in these files are linked into the King James Version of the Bible at this site.
- Therefore I believe that the citations doesn't infringe any copyrights. JohnThorne (talk) 23:50, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. One thing we would need to confirm is the actual sources for the various commentaries. Using them as sources is perfectly fine, but if that content is added verbatim, each source needs to be attributed, even if Public Domain, so as to stay on the good side of our Plagiarism policy. I'll restore that content, but if you can identify the actual sources, that would be great. Thanks again! CrowCaw 23:56, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- (more) The detail for Ref 8 is exactly what would be needed for the others, if that level of detail can be gotten. CrowCaw 00:02, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Crow: Very appreciate your review and advice. I'm trying to carefully attribute each statement to the original sources, including citation within citation, such as works of Xenophon, Herodotus, etc. by more modern authors. Will add more details to the references. Thanks again for checking. JohnThorne (talk) 00:04, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Jewish Bible translations
Hi, John. Here is another website you might want to include in the external links section. One advantage of this site over the mechon-mamre site is the ability to view Rashi's commentary. Regards, -- -- -- 02:26, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- @--: Thank you for the suggestion. JohnThorne (talk) 17:39, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
Bible chapter articles
Hi, I have been reviewing some articles you are writing on chapters from the Bible. Much of what you are putting in is very generic, applying to the whole Old Testament etc. It would be good to put some unique information about the content of the chapter in the lead section. This will make the articles more attractive to read, rather than telling people what they already know first up. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:22, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
Nuzi texts
I've rewritten this. As it was, it presented only the Creationist view and was a violation of WP:NPOV. I've tried to use a neutral source which mentions the view that there are biblical parallels and the more mainstream view that "The appearance of Late Bronze Age parallels to certain marriage, inheritance, and family religious customs ill Genesis cannot be used as evidence that such stories preserve ancient traditions of the second millennium, since most of these customs continued into the first millennium bce when the Genesis narratives were written down. So the Nuzi texts have a limited, largely illustrative function." Remember, we are a mainstream encyclopedia. On the other hand, if you want to edit from this perspective, Conservapedia is Creationist and probably won't represent any other views. Doug Weller talk 10:33, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Jeremiah 31
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A tag has been placed on Category:Jeremiah 31 requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:
'Category' only contains one article and some redirects to the same article
Under the criteria for speedy deletion, pages that meet certain criteria may be deleted at any time.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Jeffro77 (talk) 07:50, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
Various issues
I can see that you have put a fair bit of effort into some quite well sourced articles about various Bible chapters, but there are number of issues with your additions:
- See also sections are for providing links to relevant articles that are not already linked in the main article.
- It is not suitable to create a category for Bible chapters that only contain the main article and a bunch of redirects to the same article. If there is a section about a particular verse in a given target article, just link to the section.
- It is not helpful to provide an article hatnote linking to a specific Bible chapter where the target is only a redirect to the article about the whole book.
This is not necessarily an exhaustive list of issues so far.--Jeffro77 (talk) 08:14, 16 June 2017 (UTC)