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Hello, i was wondering what you mean with "Sorry to see your articles up for deletion, I hope you stay :(" No article from me was deleted, or dicussed for deletion [[User:GBK2010|GBK2010]] ([[User talk:GBK2010|talk]]) 12:45, 26 January 2010 (UTC) |
Hello, i was wondering what you mean with "Sorry to see your articles up for deletion, I hope you stay :(" No article from me was deleted, or dicussed for deletion [[User:GBK2010|GBK2010]] ([[User talk:GBK2010|talk]]) 12:45, 26 January 2010 (UTC) |
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Thank you!
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar | ||
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar may be awarded to those that show a pattern of going the extra mile to be nice, without being asked Even though I almost always seem to disagree with you, I admire all the hard work you put in to whatever controversy seems to be engulfing Wikipedia this week! HJ Mitchell | fancy a chat? 17:25, 22 January 2010 (UTC) |
Bot to deliver newsletters
Do you need a bot to deliver the newsletters? I wrote a simple tool:
Smallman12q (talk) 22:58, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- I actually proposed it at botrequests(Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval#Redirectcreation_Bot...but nobody seemed to care. Originally, I was going to use it to make a ton of redirects...but I think itll serve as a newsletter delivery bot much better. I'll post it up on sourceforge tonight.Smallman12q (talk) 23:05, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
- It's up at sourceforge. Please keep in mind that this is a beta...I'm not positive that all of the bugs have been ironed out...but you will still probably find it of great use. Cheers.Smallman12q (talk) 00:20, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
- It currently doesn't handle edit conflicts...but I'll add that in when I get a chance...let me know if it works for you. (You'll need 7-zip to open the folder).Smallman12q (talk) 00:39, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
- It's up at sourceforge. Please keep in mind that this is a beta...I'm not positive that all of the bugs have been ironed out...but you will still probably find it of great use. Cheers.Smallman12q (talk) 00:20, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for your help at my talk page while I was either asleep or at work. Power.corrupts (talk) 12:23, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
yum yum yum
Keep up the good edits! andyzweb (talk) 14:55, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
List of deleted BLPs
I have made a list of those unreferenced BLP articles that got deleted a few days ago. User:Apoc2400/Deletion list. Feel free to use it or send it on to anyone who might have use for it. I have not really followed what happened on the issue since the RfC started, but it seems you have. --Apoc2400 (talk) 00:37, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
- Now with Google cache links that might work for a few more days at least. And yes, I do occasionally help out with articles tagged for rescue, so I am aware of the ARS. --Apoc2400 (talk) 00:58, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
- Wow! What an incredible idea! I never thought of that! Thank you. Check out Wikipedia_talk:Article_Incubator#I_suggested_this_on_the_BLP_RFC.2C_what_do_you_all_think.3F we need an editor like you to help! I will let the other editors know in Wikipedia_talk:Article_Incubator and WT:Article Rescue Squadron. Please notify us of all updates, there. See WT:Article Rescue Squadron someone already made a list of Scott MacDonald deletions. With categories included. Ikip 01:04, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
These are all quite highly notable. All have been undeleted.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yury_Yarov
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koloa_Talake
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Hun_Jai
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebastian_Anefal
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Gargani
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritva_Sarin-Grufberg
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danne_Sundman
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runar_Karlsson
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Lindeman
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milan_Radulovi%C4%87
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predrag_Bubalo
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerstin_Alm
--Apoc2400 (talk) 13:05, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
- Transcribed to WT:ARS for wider discussion. WT:ARS#List_of_all_articles_deleted_by_the_three_editors Thank you again Apoc. Please see the entry directly below this: Wikipedia_talk:Article_Rescue_Squadron#Graph_showing_what_was_deleted_and_what_was_restored If you would like to complete this list, we welcome the help. Ikip 16:59, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi
Hi Ikip, I was just thinking of dropping a note to say "how is it going?" and I got yours... I don't think I am going to participate in the BLP clean-up, mostly because I have set myself the job of doing BLPs of all Nigerian governors, senators and federal ministers. Don't ask why because I can't answer, but it is sort of addictive and there is a lot more to do. As a side effect, I have been cleaning up some unsourced BLPs, but only when I come across them by accident.
I would also need to think carefully about the arguments in WP:BLPRFC, and that discussion seems to be growing faster than I can read. My guess is that a lot of the unsourced BLPs are not worth keeping. They are just a random selection of 60,000 of the world's 6,800,000,000 living people. Some are vanity articles, a few are abusive. And some really are notable. If the people deleting them are doing it right, checking first for sources, maybe there is nothing wrong with the process. If there are available sources but none are cited, my inclination would be not to delete but to strip the article down to a stub and then either expand based on the sources or note the sources as external links and move on. Dunno - I would have to read the arguments. Aymatth2 (talk) 12:33, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
- The point of contention is whether it is OK to delete without first checking for sources. Nobody in the current RFC is disputing that if you check for sources and find none then prodding for deletion is appropriate. ϢereSpielChequers 17:22, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Incubator
For what it's worth, having seen your latest comment on WP:AWNB, you won't get any argument from me in moving unreferenced articles to the incubator. I think it's a good idea as general policy, and if it keeps them away from morons like Scott MacDonald, then it's all the better. Rebecca (talk) 13:00, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
- Could I request that you hold fire before mass-moving articles to the incubator? There is still discussion ongoing and it would be better to let the dust settle and analyse the conclusions before starting anything on a large scale. Thanks — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 00:02, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
- Of course. I appreciate and respect your concerns. I stopped yesterday and will not resume until a wikiproject agrees fully. RE: "There is still discussion ongoing" where exactly? Ikip 00:04, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for bringing up my case there. An editor asked me on my talk page on how to get involved, I had little advice, feel free to post a reply there if you have any better ideas. Power.corrupts (talk) 17:38, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
- I will. See:
- Wikipedia_talk:Article_Incubator#I_suggested_this_on_the_BLP_RFC.2C_what_do_you_all_think.3F and the next section following it. Ikip 17:43, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
How you can help
- Hi Robert KS (and any editor watching my page), Power.corrupts ask me to give you some advice.
- You could contact all relevant wikiprojects with the following:
- Hello {{BASEPAGENAME}}, Currently their is a discussion which will decide whether wikipedia will delete all 50,000 articles about a living person without references.
- The two opposing positions which have the most support is:
- supports the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person:Editor Jehochman's position
- opposes the deletion of unreferenced articles about a living person:Editor Collect's position
- Comments are welcome. Keep in mind that by default, editor's comments are hidden. Simply press edit next to the section to add your comment.
- Thank you all for your valuable contributions to Wikipedia. ~~
- Let me know if you are interested, I can show you how to do this very quickly, sending a message to each wikiproject in a list in three or less clicks. Ikip 17:55, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
I've posted my endorsement of the Collect remark. I also read your remark but refrained from commenting as, while I agree with its substance, I also agree with the follow-up remarks which point out that an issue RfC should not focus on individual editors/admins and what actions they are likely to take pending or following the outcome of the RfC. Thanks much for your leadership on this issue. It's very important that material not be blindly wiped en masse from the encyclopedia. I don't see why unsourced BLPs shouldn't have the same prod or AfD process applied to them as any other article. Robert K S (talk) 21:26, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Ta!
Thanks for the heads-up about the RfC stuff. Looks like it isn't going anywhere, which is nice - another defeat for the toddler faction on these issues.
The irony is that I actually take a fairly hard stance on BLPs. One of the unintended consequences of this ridiculous mess of the last week is that people are now running around sourcing the most obvious facts in BLPs, but leaving the majority of the article - and anything that could actually potentially be made an issue of - unsourced. It's another thing that might have been prevented had people actually thought about this before peeing all over the place. Rebecca (talk) 01:09, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
- Always glad to help. Have I mentioned that I am happy to see you back? ;) Ikip 01:10, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Re: BLP
Thanks for the comment. I'm not concerned overmuch about the "bullies", & I've been around Wikipedia too long to let people push me around. That said, I am honestly disappointed with some of the communications: if those working OTRS have convincing evidence that requires us to treat biographical articles about living people differently from our other articles, they would help themselves if they found a way to share this evidence & not simply imply we should trust them. -- llywrch (talk) 04:22, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
- thanks for your message, I agree so much with what you say, thank you. Ikip 04:26, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Your post on my talk page.
Thanks for the nice comment. And there I was thinking I was sabotagin my chance for a successful rfa in the forseeabel future. What do you think of this table I'm thinking of developing.--Peter cohen (talk) 14:12, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
BLP RFC
Thanks for dropping a note... The fact that one of my own articles was an unreferenced BLP is a good illustration: 1) I had completely forgotten about creating that article in the first place (no wonder, three years have passed), 2) talk page notice left by a bot got my attention, 3) in the end, I've added the sources and expanded the article slightly. This is what editing is supposed to be: a cooperative win-win resolution to the problem. I'm afraid that "cleanup at gunpoint" isn't going to help. GregorB (talk) 16:50, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Note
Please see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Unapproved_bot. MBisanz talk 02:22, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Chess project
The chess project uses cleanup (WP:WikiProject Chess/Cleanup listing) but the unreferenced lists BLPs only. Can it list all unreferenced articles? Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 02:27, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Muchas Gracias!
I noticed the fine improvements to the reference list. I am glad you did them because I have a phobia to this stuff since I had to study FORTRAN in college. I can't do it! Thus, Muchas Gracias, --Grancafé (talk) 02:57, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
PS. I am a slow learner, but once I overcome my fears, I can learn. My offer still stands. Whenever you are ready, I am ready. Best,--Grancafé (talk) 02:57, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the STAR!!! That was awesome! I wish I knew how to do al those cyber tricks. Regarding the 'offer', I thought I had offer you some samples of The Best Coffee in the world! If I did, I am glad. If I did not, I appologize. I will be MORE than happy to send you samples for you to degustate a very unique coffee. Thanks for all your help. Best regards, --Grancafé (talk) 03:14, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
PS. Why is it that Wanda has not responded to my posting? Also, how do you (I) know who is who (and waht they are) in this laberinth, with all this nicknames going on? It feels like this cyber-game that my son used to play years ago, Ever Quest or like Lord of the Rings, with all the goblins and creatures poping out from nowhere. Best, --Grancafé (talk) 03:14, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
PS2. What is a Barnstar? Whatever it is, thank you. I used to enyoy my yellow starns in Kindergarten. In appreciation for your effort, patience and commendable work, I bestowe upon you the Grancafe Bambuco award. Please let me know if you would like to receive the actual reaward. Kindest regards, --Grancafé (talk) 03:24, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Here is your first coffee barbstar
Civility Award | ||
message Grancafé (talk) 03:41, 26 January 2010 (UTC) |
That is awesome!
What about a "Coffee Connoisseur" barnstar for merit? Best, --Grancafé (talk) 03:48, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
{{subst:MeritAward|message Grancafé (talk) 03:40, 26 January 2010 (UTC)}} This one did not work. I told you, I am cyber illiterate and I have a phobia to it. Best, --Grancafé (talk) 03:48, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
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AfD nomination of Ian James (broadcaster)
An article that you have been involved in editing, Ian James (broadcater), has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ian James (broadcaster). Thank you.
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Niteshift36 (talk) 04:26, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
- FYI, a big part of his claim, having a show called Glitterball on BBC Leeds is either untrue or outdated. He is not listed as the show host on their site. The only thing I can find on him is possibly a gardening show for 2 hours on Sun afternoons on a different BBC station. Niteshift36 (talk) 04:26, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
- The source did not support the text in the article. The article said he is currently signed to BBC Leeds for Glitterball. The source did not support that. It showed 2 episodes in 2008. Nothing in 2009 or 2010. Adding a source that doesn't support the text isn't sourcing it. So I'm not really feeling like I did anything wrong. The guy had a job. That doesn't make him notable. Niteshift36 (talk) 04:46, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
- You know, I'm trying to be reasonable, but I don't respond very well to threats. You might want to think about rephrasing. Niteshift36 (talk) 04:52, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
- The source did not support the text in the article. The article said he is currently signed to BBC Leeds for Glitterball. The source did not support that. It showed 2 episodes in 2008. Nothing in 2009 or 2010. Adding a source that doesn't support the text isn't sourcing it. So I'm not really feeling like I did anything wrong. The guy had a job. That doesn't make him notable. Niteshift36 (talk) 04:46, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Wikiproject notifications
Your notifications are being posted with a broken link and formatting for the WP:Incubation link. Additionally, there are no links or instructions for what you mean by "install Cleanup_listings". These errors need to be corrected for the notices to serve their helpful purpose. I would like to help implement this for a couple of Wikiprojects. Vassyana (talk) 07:16, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Involving other language projects
I've posted a message at the Danish project, asking for help. Would be extremely useful with a list of unref BLPs broken down per nationality of subject. Are you aware if such a list exists?. Thx. Power.corrupts (talk) 08:47, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
- user:WolterBot has a maintenance report that projects can sign up to, this includes a list of unreferenced BLPs - but you also have to have put your project's template on the talkpages of those articles. So it might be worth checking categories such as Category:People from Copenhagen to make sure that the individuals have been marked for your project. ϢereSpielChequers 08:59, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
- Thx Spiel, Ikip already answered me at my talk page, and yes, I was thinking of the possibility that articles do not have the country template on the talk page, but checking that is a breathtaking and overwhelming job. Power.corrupts (talk) 10:06, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Thanks for the barnstar
And I was complaining about having none just the other day. Thanks again and for your improvements to the table.--Peter cohen (talk) 12:05, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
A shiny barnstar for you
The BLP Barnstar | ||
I hereby award you this shiny barnstar for your efforts to alert Wikiprojects about how to locate BLPs for their projects and invite their participation in the discussion that would affect potentially all projects with a mass deletion (50,000 by most estimates) of "unsourced" BLPs. Your notice was such a good idea and sharing those links will help push some of those most familiar with the topics to help the articles at risk. Keep up the great work! -- Banjeboi 12:43, 26 January 2010 (UTC) |
Hello, i was wondering what you mean with "Sorry to see your articles up for deletion, I hope you stay :(" No article from me was deleted, or dicussed for deletion GBK2010 (talk) 12:45, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar | ||
For all your work in these difficult days: notifying Wikiprojects, discussing on the RfC's, exposing rogue editors/admins behaviour and also for this exceptional comment, which definitely proves what is the real problem of Wikipedia these days. We need more brilliant editors like you! Cyclopiatalk 13:08, 26 January 2010 (UTC) |