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== Please step back, take a deep breath, and try to practice AGF == |
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Geogene, |
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When an editor says "that is not what I said" or "you misunderstood what I said", replying by insisting that you know what I said better than I do is simply unacceptable. It is entirely possible that I did not explain my point as well as I could, but that does not excuse your behavior. Also, the idea that I have "lost" an "argument" about what I said is...c'mon man, surely you can see how bizarre that sounds, right? Take a deep breath, step back, and try to remember that this is a collaborative project. And please do not attempt to tell me, or any other editor, what our comments mean again. [[User:Hyperion35|Hyperion35]] ([[User talk:Hyperion35|talk]]) 22:26, 26 May 2021 (UTC) |
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:Okay, {{ping|Hyperion35}} let's talk about this post [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Biomedical_information&diff=prev&oldid=1025270671]. |
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:* you tried to ping me, apparently to make damn sure I saw it (even though I was already very active on that page, and had been replying to you consisently) |
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:* {{tq|I AM NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT RS OR MEDRS STANDARDS}} shouting |
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:* {{tq|Lemme give you a tip: when someone says "you misunderstood what I said", your response should not be to immediately tell me what I said.}} Overt condescension, unsolicited "life advice" given in an aggressive context |
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:* {{tq|I am giving you a chance to strike}} demanding a gesture of submission |
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:* {{tq|your bad faith}} AGF violation |
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:* {{tq|personal attack}} perhaps? |
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:* {{tq|trollish comment}} PA [[User:Geogene|Geogene]] ([[User talk:Geogene#top|talk]]) 22:43, 26 May 2021 (UTC) |
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::And before I finish, this last little post you left on my talkpage {{tq|And please do not attempt to tell me, or any other editor, what our comments mean again.}} is a threat. [[User:Geogene|Geogene]] ([[User talk:Geogene#top|talk]]) 22:54, 26 May 2021 (UTC) |
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::::I pinged you mostly to differentiate who I was responding to, my initial comment appeared to be responding to another editor due to how it was threaded. Don't believe me, check the edit history, you'll see I added the ping in a minor edit after the main comment. As for the rest, you repeatedly mis-stated and mis-represented my comment, I used all caps to emphasize the part you kept mis-representing. The rest was advice that you might want to step back and consider. No threats intended, implied, or given. Wikipedia isn't about "winning arguments". It's about collaborative discussion. As I said, if an editor tells you that you misunderstood the meaning of their comment, ask for clarification, don't double-down and try to "win the argument" over what the other editor said. Think about it, how was that supposed to end, with me stepping back and saying "yeah, you're right, that's really what I meant"? As I said, when an editor says "I didn't say X, I said Y", AGF means specifically <i>not</i> turning it into an argument of "no, you said X, you said X!" |
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Please step back, take a deep breath, and try to practice AGF
Geogene, When an editor says "that is not what I said" or "you misunderstood what I said", replying by insisting that you know what I said better than I do is simply unacceptable. It is entirely possible that I did not explain my point as well as I could, but that does not excuse your behavior. Also, the idea that I have "lost" an "argument" about what I said is...c'mon man, surely you can see how bizarre that sounds, right? Take a deep breath, step back, and try to remember that this is a collaborative project. And please do not attempt to tell me, or any other editor, what our comments mean again. Hyperion35 (talk) 22:26, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, @Hyperion35: let's talk about this post [1].
- you tried to ping me, apparently to make damn sure I saw it (even though I was already very active on that page, and had been replying to you consisently)
I AM NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT RS OR MEDRS STANDARDS
shoutingLemme give you a tip: when someone says "you misunderstood what I said", your response should not be to immediately tell me what I said.
Overt condescension, unsolicited "life advice" given in an aggressive contextI am giving you a chance to strike
demanding a gesture of submissionyour bad faith
AGF violationpersonal attack
perhaps?trollish comment
PA Geogene (talk) 22:43, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- I pinged you mostly to differentiate who I was responding to, my initial comment appeared to be responding to another editor due to how it was threaded. Don't believe me, check the edit history, you'll see I added the ping in a minor edit after the main comment. As for the rest, you repeatedly mis-stated and mis-represented my comment, I used all caps to emphasize the part you kept mis-representing. The rest was advice that you might want to step back and consider. No threats intended, implied, or given. Wikipedia isn't about "winning arguments". It's about collaborative discussion. As I said, if an editor tells you that you misunderstood the meaning of their comment, ask for clarification, don't double-down and try to "win the argument" over what the other editor said. Think about it, how was that supposed to end, with me stepping back and saying "yeah, you're right, that's really what I meant"? As I said, when an editor says "I didn't say X, I said Y", AGF means specifically not turning it into an argument of "no, you said X, you said X!"