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:Crap. Fram is the nominator. Be careful {{u|ChessEric}} because Fram and me go way back. He has point blank said I am not fit to edit Wikipedia and has attempted to say an admins decision to undo my politics tban many months ago should have been overturned because the admin “made a mistake” to him. Don’t go into a policy debate with Fram at any cost. I went ahead and added my !vote, but I’m staying out of the discussion to avoid Fram’s attention again, especially since I’ve asked him previously to not interact with me, so I’m not going to interact with him or the discussion beside that single Keep !vote. [[User:Elijahandskip|Elijahandskip]] ([[User talk:Elijahandskip#top|talk]]) 18:47, 8 February 2023 (UTC) |
:Crap. Fram is the nominator. Be careful {{u|ChessEric}} because Fram and me go way back. He has point blank said I am not fit to edit Wikipedia and has attempted to say an admins decision to undo my politics tban many months ago should have been overturned because the admin “made a mistake” to him. Don’t go into a policy debate with Fram at any cost. I went ahead and added my !vote, but I’m staying out of the discussion to avoid Fram’s attention again, especially since I’ve asked him previously to not interact with me, so I’m not going to interact with him or the discussion beside that single Keep !vote. [[User:Elijahandskip|Elijahandskip]] ([[User talk:Elijahandskip#top|talk]]) 18:47, 8 February 2023 (UTC) |
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::Pinging {{u|United States Man}}. Just wanting you to read the comment above. Be prepared for Fram to possibly drag this to a noticeboard in an attempt to delete all the tornado lists. I’m gonna stay out of this due to my past history from Fram. [[User:Elijahandskip|Elijahandskip]] ([[User talk:Elijahandskip#top|talk]]) 19:01, 8 February 2023 (UTC) |
::Pinging {{u|United States Man}}. Just wanting you to read the comment above. Be prepared for Fram to possibly drag this to a noticeboard in an attempt to delete all the tornado lists. I’m gonna stay out of this due to my past history from Fram. [[User:Elijahandskip|Elijahandskip]] ([[User talk:Elijahandskip#top|talk]]) 19:01, 8 February 2023 (UTC) |
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::Thanks for the info, but I'm honestly getting sick and tired of editors trying to impose their will on a project that they know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT. I'll avoid him from now on, but if he even THINKS of trying anything and coming after me, I WILL SKIN HIM ALIVE. It appears that there is a lot of evidence that points to Him being a bad editor and dude doesn't even have a user page (he redirected it to his talk page). Dude is all talk and no walk; he'll WISH he had left me alone. [[User:ChessEric|ChessEric]] ([[User talk:ChessEric|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:Contribs/ChessEric|contribs]]) 19:05, 8 February 2023 (UTC) |
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Archiving
You might want to consider setting up your talk page for automatic archiving. You have almost 150 discussion headers here. You can see my talk page as an example. TornadoLGS (talk) 03:24, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
- @TornadoLGS: Did I set the archive system up right? Still new to the bots on here, so I have no idea if I did it right. Elijahandskip (talk) 05:45, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
- I think so. It will take a little bit for the bot to come through iirc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TornadoLGS (talk • contribs)
Your Teahouse response
I'm way behind, but I just saw this question where you stated that good articles were the best quality. I hope you know it's featured articles that are the highest quality.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 00:27, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- Hey Vchimpanzee I do know that. I was referencing really anything higher than GA status, hence the “good/A+“ comment. Probably a slightly poor wording choice on my part, but WP Weather only had 1,300 ish articles that are GA or higher. That was the reference, rather than “GA” being the highest. Elijahandskip (talk) 00:50, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- Is A+ another name for featured?— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:02, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- If you consider a “plus” to mean anything higher than the item being mentioned, then yes. Sorry for the poor choice of words. In the weather world, a “plus” means that or higher, so I used it when I shouldn’t have. Elijahandskip (talk) 18:04, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- Is A+ another name for featured?— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:02, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
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- You beat me to it bro! XD
Me and Halls4521 were in the process of making articles for 1940–1949. I'll just merge some of the info in. For future reference, use the links below so that we don't have conflicting articles being made:
- User:Halls4521/Tornadoes of 1945
- User:Halls4521/Tornadoes of 1944
- User:Halls4521/Tornadoes of 1943
- User:Halls4521/Tornadoes of 1942
- User:Halls4521/Tornadoes of 1941
- User:Halls4521/Tornadoes of 1940
ChessEric (talk · contribs) 18:48, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- Ah got it! Lol. I honestly had no idea the articles were even being considered by others. For the future ones, I’ll edit those and once there is decent content in it, we can just move it into mainspace. Elijahandskip (talk) 19:13, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
- For the Tornadoes of 1946 article: There were (at least) 15 F4 tornadoes that year on 15 different days. Two official, and 13 estimated. Also, it looks like there were ≥71 deaths that year in the U.S., and >88 worldwide.--Halls4521 (talk) 22:21, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
Discussion closure
Following your request I have closed the discussion at Talk:List of F5 and EF5 tornadoes/Discussion#December 10 2021 TN/KY. ~~ Gusfriend (talk) 06:49, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
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Please don't immediately move articles to the mainspace
It's kinda annoying, because then the outbreak might not get going and you just did a big flop. However, you did get lucky here. So yeah, just don't do that until we see if the outbreak got going/had significant tornadoes or not. Also, good job on the new articles like "Tornadoes of 1947". Poodle23 (talk) 14:25, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I sort of got that from other reactions to the move. I am going back to my typical stonewall until absolute notability is proven, which is what I did with Hurricane Ian. I was a main reason it wasn’t moved into mainspace until after the Cuba landfall. Elijahandskip (talk) 16:50, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- Alright. Poodle23 (talk) 18:40, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
- I started a draft for today's possible tornado outbreak at Draft:Tornado outbreak of December 13–14, 2022. Poodle23 (talk) 17:23, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
- I created another draft here. If the outbreak isn't notable enough, i'll delete the draft, but for now, we can work on it. Poodle23 (talk) 21:47, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- I just posted a message about that on the talk page as well. A minimum of 3–4 editors should be needed on a consensus to move it into mainspace. In 2023, I’m going to be a pain for some editors, but it has to be done. Elijahandskip (talk) 22:07, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Man, I don't even know if this passes WP:GNG, WP:NEVENTS, or WP:NWEATHER. It didn't cause too much damage, most tornadoes were F3 or lower, and there's barely any sources out there. Though there are 30 injuries connected to one of the tornadoes. I was going to start on an AfD on this until I noticed the 30 injuries. May I hear your opinion on this article? Sarrail (talk) 03:44, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
- @Sarrail: Yeah, for sure does not pass anything to be an article. Rather than an AfD, a merge discussion into Tornadoes of 1984 would probably be best. The outbreak articles cites 0 sources, which is actually ok (not ideal, but seems to be standard practice sadly) for the larger tornadoes by year articles, since sources become more and more scarce the older it is and numerous things sources are now dead links. AfD would yield the same result as well with a merge in the end. Elijahandskip (talk) 04:59, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
Regarding Hurricane Ian
Hey Elijahandskip. I was wondering if you had a recommendation about the statements from the Charlotte County Sheriff's Office. Back in early October, they claimed that there was two dozen deaths. Meanwhile, the Florida Medical Examiners Commission (FMEC) last report from weeks ago says that only nine people passed away due to the storm. The discrepancy is confusing, but it seems that the sheriff's office gave a misleading number and failed to correct it. I take it that we should just use the numbers from FMEC from this point forward for Charlotte County, but should we note the discrepancy in the infobox or in the text? Additionally, do you have a suggestion for how to handle the missing from the capsized boat? There was a boat with 27 people with 8 rescued, 7 reported deceased, and 12 still missing. Should we note that they are still listed as missing or leave it as it is in the article? --Super Goku V (talk) 16:40, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
Christmas present for contributions at 2022 Atlantic hurricane season
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Thank you for your contributions at this season's article. ✶Mitch199811✶ 00:40, 25 December 2022 (UTC) |
Happy holidays!
Sarrail (talk) 02:43, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
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2022–2023 California floods reversion
You reverted my edit. Fine, but did you read my explanation on the talk page? This is hardly a death toll that will stand as a record for long, and its ranking as a deadly event on the global scale is not a meaningful part of the story. This is a local story. Statistics related to CA or the US might be important, but a global ranking that will surely be dwarfed by the next tropical cyclone to hit the West Pacific is really meaningless. Why do you thinki that is an important enough detail to be in the lede? Dcs002 (talk) 23:02, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Dcs002: I hadn’t seen the talk page reasoning prior to reverting it. Honestly, I loved the new wording, but at the present time, it is the deadliest of 2023. Once it drops to number 2 (which it is bound to sometime probably in the next few weeks), we should change the wording back to not dwarf the significance of it. In my mind, while it is the deadliest of 2023, that is bigger than a local story. Once it drops to number 2, then the local story is most likely more significant. Hope my mindset made sense. Thanks for messaging, because in all honestly, I wouldn’t had checked the talk page for discussion until you messaged. Elijahandskip (talk) 23:10, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- Just thought of something else to add on. While it probably won’t be the deadliest globally for long, the chance of a US event surpassing it in the foreseeable future is extremely small. Heck, to the bets of my knowledge, only the floods plus the Jan 12 tornado outbreak had direct meteorological deaths. Once it drops out of the worldwide total, maybe we should keep it set as the US deadliest event for 2023? Just a thought. Elijahandskip (talk) 23:14, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. I don't see the importance of ranking it at all. 19 people were killed (or whatever the final number turns out to be). That stands on its own. Adding a ranking is an unnecessary distraction from the story, IMO. I don't think there should be a rank there at all. If we get toward the end of the year and the US hasn't had anything more deadly, it might be actually meaningful to add it then, if there's a RS verifying it as the deadliest weather event in the US, but to say anything is the worst of the year so far when we're just over two weeks into the year sounds competitive and silly to me. It's not encyclopedic, and I don't think it belongs in the article, let alone in the lede. That's my opinion. Dcs002 (talk) 23:34, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Message received
Hello, I’ve received your message.
I see you redirected me to WP:ANI. I have reported the users that are targeting me to WP:ANI. At first I didn’t quite understand how it worked, but I think I figured it out. Anyhow, I’ve also sent an email to the Wikipedia headquarters as well, just incase. I’ve received a reply in which they stated that they are going to investigate the matter, and also advised me to go to WP:ANI.
The reason I put those messages on the talk page was because I wanted to warn others, so that they don’t become victims as well.
But for now I’m going to try and focus on improving Wikipedia articles, and hopefully Wikipedia is able to stop these spammers. 86.83.170.173 (talk) 21:37, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
Tropical Low 12U
Hello @Elijahandskip and sorry to bother you but does this [1] storm currently exist? The BoM currently does not note any active storms classified as that. If so, I will remove it. Layah50♪ ( 話して~! ) 02:00, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hello Layah50! I tried to locate anything for an active Tropical Low 12U and was unable to find anything. Since that section doesn’t cite any sources, it is probably best to go ahead and remove it. Elijahandskip (talk) 04:27, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
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Link to this stupid article deletion attempt
I forgot to ping you for this discussion. My bad. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 18:39, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- Crap. Fram is the nominator. Be careful ChessEric because Fram and me go way back. He has point blank said I am not fit to edit Wikipedia and has attempted to say an admins decision to undo my politics tban many months ago should have been overturned because the admin “made a mistake” to him. Don’t go into a policy debate with Fram at any cost. I went ahead and added my !vote, but I’m staying out of the discussion to avoid Fram’s attention again, especially since I’ve asked him previously to not interact with me, so I’m not going to interact with him or the discussion beside that single Keep !vote. Elijahandskip (talk) 18:47, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- Pinging United States Man. Just wanting you to read the comment above. Be prepared for Fram to possibly drag this to a noticeboard in an attempt to delete all the tornado lists. I’m gonna stay out of this due to my past history from Fram. Elijahandskip (talk) 19:01, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info, but I'm honestly getting sick and tired of editors trying to impose their will on a project that they know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT. I'll avoid him from now on, but if he even THINKS of trying anything and coming after me, I WILL SKIN HIM ALIVE. It appears that there is a lot of evidence that points to Him being a bad editor and dude doesn't even have a user page (he redirected it to his talk page). Dude is all talk and no walk; he'll WISH he had left me alone. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 19:05, 8 February 2023 (UTC)