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I have a problem with the term [[ethnographic minority]] in English ([[:pl:Grupa etnograficzna]]). I would like to research it more and maybe I'll create an article on this topic. There are some differences between concepts used in Polish language and academia. Polish scholarship seems to distinguish ethnic group from ethnographic group. But this is English Wikipedia, and in English language and scholarship, this distinction doesn't seem to be commonly made. Kashubians and Gorals are usually called 'ethnic groups' in English scholarship (ex. {{cite book|author=Miroslawa Czerny|title=Poland in the Geographical Centre of Europe: Political, Social and Economic Consequences|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=KGYrq9qAeskC&pg=PA62|year=2006|publisher=Nova Publishers|isbn=978-1-59454-603-7|page=62}} and many other sources). The term 'ethnographic minority' is very rarely used in English scholarship, and usually if used it is used by Polish authors who translate Polish concepts to English. Most English scholars of ethnography and such would not be even familiar with this concept (at least, that's what I think now). Those kind of issues, anyway, can and should be discussed at [[Kashubians]] (I totally agree that 99.9% Kashubians = Poles). But for the purpose of the Collaboration... article, I don't see that splitting ethnic from ethnographic is helpful, particularly as this split is something that is generally limited to Polish terminology, not English. Inaczej mowiac, po angielsku to wszystko jest ethnic minority, i nie ma co mieszac w innych artykulach. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span>]]</sub> 07:52, 29 August 2018 (UTC) |
I have a problem with the term [[ethnographic minority]] in English ([[:pl:Grupa etnograficzna]]). I would like to research it more and maybe I'll create an article on this topic. There are some differences between concepts used in Polish language and academia. Polish scholarship seems to distinguish ethnic group from ethnographic group. But this is English Wikipedia, and in English language and scholarship, this distinction doesn't seem to be commonly made. Kashubians and Gorals are usually called 'ethnic groups' in English scholarship (ex. {{cite book|author=Miroslawa Czerny|title=Poland in the Geographical Centre of Europe: Political, Social and Economic Consequences|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=KGYrq9qAeskC&pg=PA62|year=2006|publisher=Nova Publishers|isbn=978-1-59454-603-7|page=62}} and many other sources). The term 'ethnographic minority' is very rarely used in English scholarship, and usually if used it is used by Polish authors who translate Polish concepts to English. Most English scholars of ethnography and such would not be even familiar with this concept (at least, that's what I think now). Those kind of issues, anyway, can and should be discussed at [[Kashubians]] (I totally agree that 99.9% Kashubians = Poles). But for the purpose of the Collaboration... article, I don't see that splitting ethnic from ethnographic is helpful, particularly as this split is something that is generally limited to Polish terminology, not English. Inaczej mowiac, po angielsku to wszystko jest ethnic minority, i nie ma co mieszac w innych artykulach. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User talk:Piotrus|<span style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</span>]]</sub> 07:52, 29 August 2018 (UTC) |
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Hi, I am leaving a quick note to let you know that I did not find these Talk page comments to be helpful: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ACollaboration_in_German-occupied_Poland&type=revision&diff=860667329&oldid=860658568]. Talk pages are for discussion of content, not contributors. I would appreciate it if you did not unnecessarily personalised disputes. This could potentially drive off other editors if they find the atmosphere too unpleasant. Thank you. --[[User:K.e.coffman|K.e.coffman]] ([[User talk:K.e.coffman|talk]]) 21:31, 22 September 2018 (UTC) |
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Nice work
Just wanted to drop by and say thanks for all the recent work you've put into the Poland article. It's a good step in removing the issues that often plague Polish topics on Wikipedia. --Samotny Wędrowiec (talk) 20:47, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
- Hi Samotny Wędrowiec, many thanks! I figured a bit of grammar fixing was in order. :D --E-960 (talk) 20:35, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
You may want to enable the option of other editors being able to send you email. Public discussions are of course the best, but there may be circumstances when people want to send you an 'eyes only' communique. Just a thought. Cheers, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:32, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- Piotrus, fair point, I'll see what I can do. --E-960 (talk) 18:15, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
- And? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:47, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Belarus
Hi,
Can you assist me in the discussion of a caption under the image in Belarus page. A user keeps changing the First Partition of Poland (the official title of the article) to the partition of "Lithuanian-Polish Commonwealth", which is wrong and obviously has vandalism intentions. The state didn't exist under this name. Sadly he refuses to step down and I tried to discuss that it's incorrect. Best Regards. Oliszydlowski, 21:18, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
RE:Gorals and Kaszubs
I have a problem with the term ethnographic minority in English (pl:Grupa etnograficzna). I would like to research it more and maybe I'll create an article on this topic. There are some differences between concepts used in Polish language and academia. Polish scholarship seems to distinguish ethnic group from ethnographic group. But this is English Wikipedia, and in English language and scholarship, this distinction doesn't seem to be commonly made. Kashubians and Gorals are usually called 'ethnic groups' in English scholarship (ex. Miroslawa Czerny (2006). Poland in the Geographical Centre of Europe: Political, Social and Economic Consequences. Nova Publishers. p. 62. ISBN 978-1-59454-603-7. and many other sources). The term 'ethnographic minority' is very rarely used in English scholarship, and usually if used it is used by Polish authors who translate Polish concepts to English. Most English scholars of ethnography and such would not be even familiar with this concept (at least, that's what I think now). Those kind of issues, anyway, can and should be discussed at Kashubians (I totally agree that 99.9% Kashubians = Poles). But for the purpose of the Collaboration... article, I don't see that splitting ethnic from ethnographic is helpful, particularly as this split is something that is generally limited to Polish terminology, not English. Inaczej mowiac, po angielsku to wszystko jest ethnic minority, i nie ma co mieszac w innych artykulach. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:52, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, I am leaving a quick note to let you know that I did not find these Talk page comments to be helpful: [1]. Talk pages are for discussion of content, not contributors. I would appreciate it if you did not unnecessarily personalised disputes. This could potentially drive off other editors if they find the atmosphere too unpleasant. Thank you. --K.e.coffman (talk) 21:31, 22 September 2018 (UTC)