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:*Oh my... well in that case, who are we to argue with a certified authority on the band? Have they hired him on yet to write their official biography? lol. Cheers mate... [[User:BGC|BGC]] 02:40, 22 September 2006 (UTC) |
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Thanks for catching my categorising mistake in Mike Sheron. Guess which article I was using as a template. Oldelpaso 17:57, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
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An e-mail from user:Doctor Jimmy
Ahh baba. It works every time ha ha .Nothing though i said is untrue and that i can guaruntee.
And some more...
Just who do you think you are.Do you really think I have a problem with Tony
Ellis signing for Blackpool,it was 12 years ago for god sake.He was and still is to me and many other North End fans a hero and a legend and in my time the best striker Ive seen at the club.I'll grant you one thing,i did at the time have a problem with John Beck for wanting him out in the first place ,and succeeding and also with the board for not being big enough to stand up to Beck in regards to keeping our best player. If though Tony Ellis is such a hero on the Fylde why has it taken until now for someone,and a Preston North End fan at that,to write an article on him.Had he not played for Preston before going to Blackpool he would be classed in the same league as John Murphy, Scott Taylor and the like but due to the fact that he played for Preston he is now seen as some sort of iconic messiah in Blackpool.It seems to me that it is you who have a problem with the fact that Ellis once, nay twice played for Preston and not i should say the other way round.Having said that coming from someone who listens to REM and seems to also follow St Johnstone it really shouldn't come as any surprise. Many Preston North End fans do hold a grudge against Ellis for walking out on us but many more also blame John Beck for forcing him out.To try and replace Ellis with the likes of Mark Sale and Neil Trebble was plain criminal and it was no surprise when he was sacked just 4 months after letting Ellis go.His successor Gary Peters admitted that Beck made a mistake in letting him go solely for the reason that he was bigger than Beck at Deepdale and also more influential in the dressing room.Peters added that although Ellis could be hard work(something Owen Oyston also admitted to me)he could have lived with that due to the fact that he could guarantee you 25-30 goals a season. Believe me if I really did have a problem with Ellis going to Blackpool i would not have started the article as i did or i would have made some rather
derogatory comments about him,which i didnt.
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Dick
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Also does my user page say i started [the Lancaster City F.C. article].Look carefully at it and it states that is is part
of "My Contributions".If I had added something to it quite meaningless or just corrected something i would have put it in "Articles I Have Added To".The fact that I put a hell of a lot down is the reason i categorised it as i did.like its your buisness.You must lead a very sad and lonely life to go on as you do.Have
you ever kissed a girl you prat.
Please don't move pages by copying and pasting their content; it doesn't preserve the page's history. --Chris (talk) 13:18, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
- I've performed the move you were trying to do. The page is back at The 'Burbs. --Chris (talk) 13:23, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
- Noted on both counts. Thanks. ~ Dudesleeper 13:28, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Kyle Clancy/"Category:Year of birth"/"Category:Date of birth"
Greetings, Dudesleeper----same as you, I'm working on a big project and, as they have it in that stub-sorting line, you can help just by continuing to do what you've been doing. My giant project, as I've written in my previous message to an administrator, is to properly organize the thousands of mis-alphabetized names in all of the "Category" listings. As you know if, at the bottom of "John Doe"'s stub or full bio, a "Category", such as "Category:Living people|Doe, John" is input as "Category:Living people" or "Category:Living people|John Doe", then "John Doe" will be alphabetized under "J", instead of "D". You've been doing it properly, but scores of other editors haven't been.
There is also another "Category" problem. We met at the Kyle Clancy edit, over the Category:Date of birth missing/Category:Year of birth missing uncertainty. Ideally for the sake of clarity, but awkwardly sounding, the Category:Date of birth missing should have been called Category:Year of birth present, but month and day missing and the Category:Year of birth missing should have been called Category:Day, month and year of birth missing.
There are nearly a thousand biographies which begin with either, for example, "John Doe (born 1950)" or "John Doe (1950—August 26, 2006)". Since the year of birth is not missing, these can only go into the Category:Date of birth missing. On the other hand, there are about ten times as many bios, especially stubs of present-day individuals, like Kyle Clancy, which then can only go into the Category:Year of birth missing.
Many editors hedge their bets by putting the no-date subjects of their biographies into both the "Date" and the "Year" Categories, reasoning that the "Date missing" Category must mean only the day and the month (August 26), and the "Year missing" Category must mean only the year (2006). At first, it seems to make sense, until we realize that the two Categories are mutually exclusive. If "John Doe" was only in Category:Year of birth missing, but not in Category:Date of birth missing, that would mean that his biography would have to begin with "John Doe (born August 26)", which, while popular when movie magazines write about actors, is never done in Wikipedia.
Also, if we were to use that method, there wouldn't even be any point in keeping both of the Categories — I recently offered a proposal to delete the Category:Year of birth missing and merge its contents into the more-readily-understood Category:Date of birth missing, but withdrew the idea almost immediately, realizing that to search out missing dates, we need every detail sorted in a separate "Category".
For example, yesterday I sorted a short entry on "Samuel Cromwell (died December 1, 1842)", who was hanged on a US Navy ship in mid-ocean on suspicion that he might be planning a mutiny. His bio was under Category:Date of birth missing, instead of the more correct Category|Year of birth missing. We know the exact date of his death, but his birth will probably always remain unknown. So I transferred him to a third, even-more-correct, Category:Date of birth unknown|Cromwell, Samuel, for long-ago individuals whose birthdate will probably never be known.
I hope all of the above provided some room for discussion on the Kyle Clancy "Year/Date" uncertainty and that you would let me know your thoughts on the subject and how you want to handle this "Category" in your future biographies and stubs. Romanspinner talk 07:45, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Linking to Defender
When you want to link to the article about the football position defender, please do not link to Defender, as that is a disambiguation page (which nothing should be linked to). Instead link to the Defender (football) article, by writing out [[Defender (football)|defender]]. Regards, -- Jeff3000 20:36, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Barnstar
Well done for your good work on football articles. Do with it what you will, but keep up your good work. --Guinnog 22:04, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
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No full stop is required, the link and article title need not be identical. For your reference, Template:North_West_Counties_1, Template:Scottish First Division, Template:G14 and many others, all omit full stops despite them being included in the article or article title. Kanaye 16:31, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
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After he graduated he "worked in a bakery back in Portland with a bachelor’s degree in philosophy and legal theory."
I grasped the irony in the sentence perfectly. My problem with the statement is not that it's ironic, but that it's badly contructed and doesn't cite a source for the quote. Care to correct? --S0uj1r0 04:19, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
What? What is the source that you provided? Even if you explained the difference between official and unofficial (and I'm not sure where that was explained either), it's a totally arbtirary distinction that you made up; it's meaningless. Why is one official and another not? Who cares? What if I think other albums aren't official? -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 17:18, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
- The source would be the R.E.M. website. If they don't list the three compilations in question, why should we (which we still are, for now)? If you can't take the word from "the horse's mouth" as official, what's the point in trying to reason with you any more? And the official/unofficial difference is explained on the relevant compilation pages (unless you've reverted those too). - Dudesleeper 17:30, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
R.E.M. discography, personal attacks, etc.
Posted at Talk:R.E.M. discography and User talk:Dudesleeper It's not cute or clever to pick fights with people and then ignore what they have to say when you call them on it (per 3RR complaints below.) A "poll" that lasts for a couple of days with three votes (not including the person who clearly had the dispute in the first place) is neither a legitimate poll, nor is it one with a "huge turnout." [Sarcasm missed - Ed.] Again, I have to ask if this is some kind of a joke.
I'll direct you to Wikipedia:No personal attacks, too, since you've either never seen this before, or think it doesn't apply to you. The article talk namespace is intended for discussion about the template itself, not your personal opinions about or psychoanalysis of me. If you want to complain about me, that's why Wikipedia has the user talk namespace.
Let me "dumb this down" to "your level:" R.E.M. don't release albums. They are signed to record labels that release albums (e.g. IRS Records.) R.E.M. record music that is put on albums and then the record labels release them, with the band and the label making some money. This process is true in the case of all the compilations listed in the article; they're all official, because the band authorized the record label to release this material when they signed their names to a contract IRS Records (and consequently EMI) are appointed or authorized to act in a designated capacity. Does this make sense to you, because I'm still not seeing how this arbitrary division of "official" and "unofficial" is helpful to the reader, an actual division that exists somewhere other than your imagination, or meaningful toward editing this article. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 14:45, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
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scot footy
Hi nice articles and categories but remember not to leave a gap between
Category: and Scotti it needs to be Category:Scottish without space otherwiese your categories don't register. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:12, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
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- Your categories at the bottom of the page are perfect its just I had to correct the spaces
- Yours was like this Category: Scottish footballers|
- Corrected should be Category:Scottish footballers
no space between any of it is correct
- Its just even though you categorised it correctly it didn't show up at the bottom of the page when you showed it so it looked like it wasn't categrized. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:19, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- Look at the last page you contributed. If you scroll down now you can see the categories you put them in at the bottom e.g Scottish footballers St Johnstone players etc.
- Before it wasn't there even though you added them in the editing because you left a space between :
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- No I looked at it when you had added them. You didn't notice that when you added them it didn't work because you left a gap between the word category: and the writing Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:26, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- Everythings fine now.
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- Hi. No I think what happened is that when I initially looked at the page there was no categories as you confirmed so I went into edit to category it. However probably just at that moment I went to edit you saved your categories that you added so when I looked at it, it led me to think that it wasn't registering because you left a gap. No i checked a space doesn't matter it was just bad timing!!!! Sorry to complicate things!! All the best Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:45, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
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- Hi. No I think what happened is that when I initially looked at the page there was no categories as you confirmed so I went into edit to category it. However probably just at that moment I went to edit you saved your categories that you added so when I looked at it, it led me to think that it wasn't registering because you left a gap. No i checked a space doesn't matter it was just bad timing!!!! Sorry to complicate things!! All the best Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:45, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Your edit to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sam Ellis
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Koavf, etc....
"Dude, he's met R.E.M., therefore he knows it all."
- Oh my... well in that case, who are we to argue with a certified authority on the band? Have they hired him on yet to write their official biography? lol. Cheers mate... BGC 02:40, 22 September 2006 (UTC)