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Chinese year
Thanks! Not been here a lot recently for lack of time... Happy New (Chinese - 7 February! - /Kurdish) Year also! Tazmaniacs (talk) 16:20, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Birth place
Biographies normally begin with So and So (Birthplace Birthdate - Deathplace Deathdate). This is a useful convention. That is why I standardized the header of Ibrahim Muteferrika. --Macrakis (talk) 03:25, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Military history WikiProject coordinator election
The February 2008 Military history WikiProject coordinator election has begun. We will be selecting nine coordinators to serve for the next six months from a pool of fifteen candidates. Please vote here by February 28! --Eurocopter tigre (talk) 12:59, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Have you seen this? Incredible! Since user:mrg315 attempt to move the Iasi-Chisinau Operation article to Iassy-Kishinev Offensive has failed he is always seeking revenge. This is going way to far, I think that we should report him. --Eurocopter tigre (talk) 09:59, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- That would be my fault, I said that I agree to change the name of the article if he manages to change the name of Chişinău, I didn't expect that he's going to do that unilaterally without consulting other editors. -- AdrianTM (talk) 14:50, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- I think we should report mrg for ignoring sources provided by Bogdan, incivility, edit warring, assuming bad faith and desruptivity. Which would be the proper place then? --Eurocopter tigre (talk) 15:33, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
WQA
Hi Dahn, just wanted to give you a heads up that an Alert was filed about you on WP:WQA here. [1]. It has been closed as it's entirely without merit, but you don't seem to have been informed about it, so I'm doing so now. cc: AdrianTM. Best, DanielEng (talk) 08:11, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Albanezii din Romania
Imi explicii si mie ce relevanta are trimiterea ta acolo, mai mult, de regula Albanezii sunt mai degraba nationalisti decat cosmopolitii. Asta nu o spun nici ca lauda(eu insumii ma consider mai degraba "de dreapta"), nici ca insulta, ci ca statistica. Intrebararile mele sunt: ce legatura are un articol care pare sa fie despre Kosovo cu Albanezii din Romania? Mai mult, tinand cont de mentalitatea albaneza predominanta...de ce si-ar ascunde 2500-2600 de albanezii identitatea nationala? AdrianCo (talk) 00:25, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- Se prea-pare ca am pornit pe piciorul gresit, da daca vrei u cearta...in fine : Problema numarul unu cu sursa ta:WP:V si WP:NOR:
- Are 48 de pagini articolul si pe primul rand e mentionat Kosovo(asta ca sa stii de ce am mentionat Kosovo, ca bineinteles ca nu el era in discutie), faptul ca e o sursa furnizata/citata de specialistii olandezii(probabil aceiasi care testeaza Colgate si afla ca in 3 saptamanii ti se albesc dintii mai ceva ca neaua) ma lasa probabil la fel de rece pe cat te lasa pe tine afirmatiile mele. Asa ca fa bine si zi-mi si mie cam unde sa ma uit...pagina si locul...ca sa nu caut eu o ora cand de fapt u tre sa imi spui unde sa ma uit!
- Cine a publicat articolul, cat de relevat este el acum peste 9 ani(ca tot vorbeam de Kosovo, articolul e din Iulie 99`,la scurt timp dupa Razboiul din Kosovo , excluzi tu oare posibilitatea ca ei sa fi fost refugiati, daca sunt, ca ti-am spus ca eu 48 de paginii nu caut?), explica oare articolul acesta cum de exista albanezii nedeclaratii in Romania ?
- Ei bine, cand raspunzi la problemele de mai sus: cand imi spui pagina, eventual si randul, cand probebezi faptul ca nu e vorba(daca e vorba) de refugiati, cand imi spui si mie in ce context ai gasit tu sursa asta unanim recunoscuta de un oarecare numar de universitatii din Olanda, atunci o sa ma convingi...pana in ziua aceea cu soare....revert! si Seara buna! AdrianCo (talk) 01:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- a)Referinta numarul 2 din articol(cea legata de numarul 3000) duce la fisierul format fdf http://www.isim.nl/files/newsl_3.pdf , care are 48 de paginii
- b)Stiu ca nu se cere "unanima recunoastere", dar uneori umorul poate sa faca parte din argumentaie
- c)Lenea e mare....si nu la prima pagina ci la pagina 34 am gasit :
Apart from the Turks and the Tartars, other Muslim ethnic groups can also be found in Romania, such as the Albanians who emigrated in great number after World War I from many regions of the Balkan Peninsula. According to certain studies, there are approximately 3,000 Muslim Albanians in Romania. They are fully integrated into the Tartar-Turkish community, not only by means of marriage, but also through the bonds of custom and tradition and by the sharing of mosques and graveyards. This makes it very difficult to establish their exact number. A fact that is worth mentioning is that the first translation of the Koran to modern Albanian (written with Latin letters), entitled K o r a n i (K e n d i m i n i) was published by Ilo Mitko Qafezezi Ð an Albanian from Romania Ð in 1921 in Ploiesti.
- d)CONFORM CAROR STUDII???????????? Articolul spune ca exista "studii", iar eu o sa iti amintesc ca exista weasel words! Autorul o fi roman, dar el zice ca au fost studii? Studiile cui? Al lui?! El nu zice asta, el spune : "certain studies".
- e)Nu te-am amentinat
- f)Iar eu stiam ca exista o regula ca nu ai voie sa faci mai mult de 3 modificari pe zi....
- g)Mi se pare logic ca pana la solutionarea unor probleme in ce priveste sursele sa fie lasata o formulare ambigua(in cazul de fata "Many/Multi") asta nu insamna ca am sters orice mentiune asupra faptului in cauza.
- h)Hah?? Care criterii polictice vezi tu? Nu te-am acuzat pe tine de asa ceva iar daca e vorba de declaratia mea privitoare la albanezii atunci cred ca e irelevanta(si zicand asta imi retrag criterii pe baza WP:NOR, da, poti fi fericit, ce e ffff probabil nu e si adevarat....trebuia sa caut si o sursa,dar tot nu are legatura cu problema in sine)
- i)Din nou tin sa repet ca "certain sources" e diferit de informatii de prima mana! Poate sa fie si de a doua mana, poate sa fie si un zvon, cert e ca dragul nostru roman de la isim nu pare sa se fi sinchisit sa mentioneze sursa. Lectura placuta! AdrianCo (talk) 01:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- O mica mentiune pt e)...nu era vorba de razboi de editare...era vorba de faptul ca eu am dat un singur undo pana la clarificarea situatiei, eventual ori sa mai fie si altele, dar doar daca am o justificatie buna(cum in buna masura mi se pare ca am in momentul de fata). In cazul in care arugmentele prezentate de tine ori sa fie convingatoare, bineinteles o sa cedez. In caz ca nu o sa ajungem la consens...exista medierea! Lucru pe care il gasesc drept mult mai bun decat un edit-war epuizant si steril. Pe de alta parte ma mira promtitudinea cu care am fost amenintat eu ca o sa fiu "parat", de parca as fi facut cine stie ce afirmatie lezanta sau de parca in ciuda oricaror arugmente eu nu m-as fi lasta convins...AdrianCo (talk) 01:50, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Aha...din experiente precedente WP:A e folosit din pacate in multe cazuri in care cel care il invoca observa sugrezimea argumentelor sale DPDV logic dar se refugiaza in sursa sa. Bineinteles sper sa nu fie cazul! Cum spuneam, in cazul de fata eu nu vad de ce ar fi o sursa in sine, caci tot ce ne spune studiul isim este ca ar exista alte surse care ar spune lucrul acesta....cea ce este exact ce ai spus si tu. Bun, sa zicem ca lasam asa, ei bine atunci avem parte de un articol care are informatii bazate pe alte articole care trimit la randul lor la....nimic! Daca romanul nostru de la isim ar fi dat stdiile care raportaeaza existenta a 3000 de albanezii in Romania, atunci am fi avut de aface cu o sursa; dar noi in cazul de fata avem de aface cu o supozitie, caci oricat de respectabila ar fi o sursa, atunci cand ea mentioneaza existenta unor studii, ea le publica! Insa avem si surse, domnul profesor George Grigore citeaza niste surse dintre care cele mai noi sunt din 1997(despre tatari), 1995(despre turci)....si urmatoarea din....1976(despre Musulmanii din Romania), in cazul de fata avem urmatoarele probleme : a) nu sunt mentionate presupusele studii care ii atesta pe cei trei mii , b) insasi sursa sursei noastre referitoare la musulmanii din Romania este invechita(s-or mai fi schimbat lucurile din 1976...da asta e OR, asa ca ma multumesc sa ma limitez la deprecierea ei pe baza de peste 3 decenii diferenta)
- Ar mai fi o mica chestiune, de fapt doar o rugaminte: mi-e greu sa ma tot uit la istorie sa vad modificarile care le faci tu in timp ce eu scriu raspunsuri....asa ca te rog incearca sa iti formulezi textul dintr-o bucata...pentru o comunicare mai facila....doar o rugaminte bineinteles. AdrianCo (talk) 02:08, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Dr George Grigore is professor at the Arabic
Department of the University of Bucharest and research fellow at the Center for Arab Studies, Bucharest, Romania. E-mail: grigoreg@hotmail.com There are two monthly publications, issued in Constanta, worthy of mention: H a k s e s (in Romanian and Turkish) and K a r a d e n i z (ÔThe Black SeaÕ; in Romanian, Turkish and Tartar). In addition, the Kriterion publishing house in Bucharest has been printing books in Turkish and Tartar languages since 1980. In the High Institutions of the State, there are two deputies in Parliament representing two political organizations of the Turkish-Tartar community in Romania, namely the Democrat Union of the Turkish Muslim Tartars in Romania and the Democrat Union of the Turks in Romania. R e f e r e n c e s Ð Ekrem Mehmet Ali, 1995, Din istoria turcilor d o b r o g e n i, Bucuresti, Editura Kriterion; Ð Mehmet Ablay, 1997, Din istoria tatarilor, Bucuresti, Editura Kriterion; Ð R. Florescu, 1976, Prezente musulmane n Romnia / Muslims in Romania. Past and Present / Maca l i m Islamiyya fi Rumaniya. With a Preface by Iacub Mehmet, Mufti of the Muslim Cult in the Socialist Republic of Romania, Bucharest, Meridiane Publishing House; Ð N.A. Gafer, Vladimir Drimba, ÔQuelques problmes relatifs au developpement culturel de la population tatare de RoumanieÕ, Bucharest, S t u d i e et Acta Orientalia, I (1958), 339-343; Ð Mstecib Ulksal, 1966, Dobruca ve Trkler, Ankara,
Trk Kltrn Arastirma Enstits Yayinlari —Preceding unsigned comment added by AdrianCo (talk • contribs) 02:09, 22 February 2008 (UTC)- Hah? Blockquote-ul de mai sus include referintele autorului, el spune ca astea sunt sursele lui, nu eu!=> nu am facut speculatii. Articolul mentionat de tine nu este o sursa, este o referinta la unele posibile surse, inexistente pana la proba contrarie. AdrianCo (talk) 02:26, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Taciturnul meu interlocutor.....din acel articol asta reiese, daca tu vezi vreun loc in care este demonstrat,afirmat sau citat faptul ca albanezii ar atinge numarul de 3000 de persoane te rog sa mi-l indicii....Domnul Dr de la ismi a spus ca "exista studii"...iar eu am spus ca el a spus ca exista studii...ceea ce mi se pare perfect logic si corect! AdrianCo (talk) 02:37, 22 February 2008 (UTC) Ba nu e tautologie pentru ca nu se repeta aceeasi idee,nici a->b . Ci a -> b , iar b se presupune ca ar putea sustine un c. AdrianCo (talk) 02:55, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- Si da e corect sa spui ca exista studii care sustin ca exista alte studii care zic X(exemplu"Universitatea X a facut un studiu pe mai multe sondaje(alte studii) care sustineau Y") AdrianCo (talk) 02:58, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Romanian translation
You providing it is good enough. We usually do this with foreign-language sources where the reviewer doesn't understand the language in question (I mean, just a few days back I passed something with a French source; not a problem for me). It's not meant to exclude them from Main Page DYK consideration; just to get an editor who knows better to review. Daniel Case (talk) 03:20, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Grigore Cugler
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Sorting
The sorting does not depend on what you or I or anybody else prefers. It depends on the rule which is adopted by Wikipedia, which should be followed. I don't give a damn on what the rule is, but refuse to be bullied into appying a rule based on personal preferences.
Any rule is possible.
- Some prefer to have the accented letters follow the non-accented ones. Thus Ş should follow S
- Some prefer to ignore the accented letters Thus S and Ş are identical
- Some prefer to list the accented letters at the end Thus Ş should follow Z (or another accented letter).
Whatever rule is desired, can be programmed.
You indicate that you prefer rule 2. Personally I prefer rule 1. The point is not to discuss which of the rules is better.
However, for some reasons, Wikipedia has preferred, adopted and programmed rule 3. There is no policy statement indicating that other sorting rules should be accepted. Therefore I apply the rules regardless of my own preference.
As far as Gene Nygaard is concerned I have no debate with him and have nothing to discuss with ill-manered persons who were not taught by their mothers to use words such as please or thank you. He seems to have learnt to communicate at boot-camp; in any case this is the vocabulary he uses. Please be so kind and ignore any messages changed between me and him. I don't ask you to side with any of us, but please be so kind and keep this obnoxious person out of our conversation.
Regarding the information, I am probably getting old and forgetful, but I don't recall ever having discussed the matter of the boxes with you. At present I want just to finalize the list of rivers and the links between the rivers (which river flows into which and what the tributaries are. In order to get a picture of the network. I intend to get the rest of the information in shape at a later date.
After that I intended to get the names correct - especially as Romanian rivers have also Hungarian and German names which should be quoted. Also hydronomic information, as far as it can be detected, would be useful.
So any suggestions are welcome for the contents of the articles. Afil (talk) 22:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- I have no idea what you are talking about. I requested Gene Nygaard to indicate such rules if he knew anything about them. In his response he simply indicated some discussions, not a policy or a rule. Therefore I have abandoned any Defaultsort statements in the articles.
- I do not wish to get into further disputes and do not understand your message. I have nothing to discuss with Gene Nygaard - that discussion is closed. This is a discussion between you and me. Period.
Note to self: The above is part of a discussion with Afil concerning his chaotic editing style and his disruptive take on the defaultsort system. He has deleted the other section from his user page, alongside the similar comments of another user - I'm linking it here for future reference. Dahn (talk) 22:41, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Moldova
If you think the article is a mess, why not help us make it better. All criticism should be constructive. We'd surely need someone as experienced as you (judging by the fact you have significantly contributed to 2 articles considered among the best in Wikipedia)Xasha (talk) 18:36, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks
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Thank you very much for your support in the recent Military history Wikiproject election. I'm more than happy to serve the project for another six months! --Eurocopter (talk) 15:24, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
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