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<div class="user-block" style="min-height: 40px">[[File:Balance icon.svg|40px|left|alt=]]To enforce an [[Wikipedia:Arbitration|arbitration]] decision and for violating your topic ban on India-related articles, you have been '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]]''' from editing for a period of '''72 hours'''. You are welcome to edit once the block expires; however, please note that the repetition of similar behavior may result in a longer block or other sanctions. <p>If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the [[Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks|guide to appealing blocks]] (specifically [[Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks#Arbitration enforcement blocks|this section]]) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. --><span style="font-size:97%;">{{tlx|unblock|2=reason=Please copy my appeal to the [[WP:AE{{!}}arbitration enforcement noticeboard]] or [[WP:AN{{!}}administrators' noticeboard]]. ''Your reason here OR place the reason below this template.'' ~~~~}}</span>. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard I suggest you use the [[Template:Arbitration enforcement appeal#Usage|arbitration enforcement appeals template]] on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me ([[Special:EmailUser/NeilN|by email]]), before or instead of appealing on your talk page. [[User:NeilN|<b style="color:navy">Neil<span style="color:red">N</span></b>]] <sup>[[User talk:NeilN|<i style="color:blue">talk to me</i>]]</sup> 14:03, 31 May 2018 (UTC) <div class="sysop-show"><hr/><p style="line-height: 90%;"><small>'''Reminder to administrators:''' In May 2014, ArbCom adopted the following [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures#Standard provision: appeals and modifications|procedure instructing administrators]] regarding Arbitration Enforcement blocks: "No administrator may modify a sanction placed by another administrator without: (1) the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or (2) prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a) AE or (b) AN or (c) ARCA (see "Important notes" [in the procedure]). Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped."</small></p></div></div><!-- Template:uw-aeblock --> |
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Thin ice
Crawford, you are on extremely thin ice at Anti-Hindu sentiment. You've reinstated blatant original research, non-neutral wording, and dodgy sources. By reinstating that content, you are taking responsibility for it. Fix those issues before you add anything back into the article, or expect to find yourself at arbitration enforcement. Vanamonde (talk) 10:37, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Vanamonde93:, don't use my talk page for threatening remarks. Use the article talk page to write comments about edits. I expect better from you. Crawford88 (talk)
- This is a behavioral issue with you, not a content issue related to the article. Your talk page is meant for discussing precisely this sort of thing. Vanamonde (talk) 04:45, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- Show with proof that I am a serial disruptive editor, otherwise don't post a reply here. Crawford88 (talk) 04:48, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- This is a behavioral issue with you, not a content issue related to the article. Your talk page is meant for discussing precisely this sort of thing. Vanamonde (talk) 04:45, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Notifying you of this AE request, as required. Vanamonde (talk) 05:32, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
- Crawford, you can open a talk page discussion instead of engaging in revert war even if you feel wronged. You should consider what you can do without spending time in conflicts. It is a collaborative slow pedia. There is no guarantee that what you type will stay or what someone else will type will stay. It is not worth fighting over. Open a talk page discussion, put your understanding and wait for others to put their understanding. After all, you cannot have complete understanding of everything and you may not be right all the time. Seek a middle ground and/or expand your understanding or forget the edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gbohoadgwwian (talk • contribs) 11:26, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Crawford88, please respond to the arbitration enforcement request. --NeilN talk to me 18:33, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
I have closed this request with, "Crawford88 is strongly cautioned to follow closely what sources actually state, be aware of WP:ASSERT, and not to overreach when writing article content based on reliable sources." --NeilN talk to me 21:57, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Can you please provide the excerpt from the source which has "radical Christian extremists"? [1] --NeilN talk to me 14:21, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- The answer is that it doesn't. What the source says is
" In mid-June 1950, the remote and venerated Sabarimala Temple was discovered to have been damaged by vandals. A police investigation implicated Christians, though no arrests were ever made."
(Jeffrey 1980 p 494). Vanamonde (talk) 16:21, 17 May 2018 (UTC)- Noted. Before I implement a topic ban I want to hear Crawford88's explanation. --NeilN talk to me 16:24, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- I'm curious too. How did you (Crawford88) get from "damage" to arson? I'm sorry to say this is looking like gross POV editing and, unless a really good explanation is forthcoming, a topic ban looks increasingly necessary. --regentspark (comment) 20:29, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Neil: "radical Christian extremists" is not my edit. You may ask the concerned editors. I have simply provided a secondary source to back up the claim that it were indeed Christians and not some unknown persons or poachers, as Doug Weller suggests. Now, coming to the edits on "arson" from "damage" comes from primary source. The title of the case itself was "Sabarimala Temple Arson Case". I was being more specific about the damage. Crawford88 (talk) 04:53, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
- Your explanation is unacceptable for these edits: [2], [3] --NeilN talk to me 05:53, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
- @NeilN: On May 15th someone replaced "radical Christian extremists" with "unknown persons". Note that at this point there were two sources, the original report and an official Kerala state website. Crawford reverted, replacing "radical Christian extremists". I reverted that as no source says radical or extremists and the perpetrators are unknown. Thinking back I should have left Christian. Crawford reverted that, adding the JSTOR source. Now all that source says about the incident is "In mid- June 1950, the remote and venerated Sabarimala Temple was discovered to have been damaged by vandals. A police investigation implicated Christians, though no arrests were ever made." It does not source the replacement of radical or extremist. I reverted, then edited to read " possibly set by Christian poachers. The police report suggested that the motive was religion in the context of a dispute over the gradual absorbtion of low caste Hindus into the folds of Christianity."" with an edit summary " a bit of detail, these seem to have been poachers, a quote on motivation - this was probably a religiously motivated incident during a period of religious conflict & protests over conversions to Christianity, ie a reprisal" That was reverted with an edit summary "stick to the source. Jeffery's article doesn't mention anything about poachers, and you contradict that by writing about conversion of low caste Hindus. Also, removed primary source, as it's not desirable in Wiki per policy." The text then said " Christians as per the police investigation." Crawford also changed "No charges were brought." to " No arrest (sic) were made" for some reason. I find the edit summary confusing as the report was clear that low caste Hindus and Christians were poaching in the area, and everyone interviewed in the investigation was a poacher. Yes, Jeffery doesn't mention poachers, but then he doesn't mention the fire at all. We do have a sourcing problem which I'll take to RSN. The Kerala site fails RS - official state sites are not reliable for history. The JSTOR source doesn't mention a fire (I don't think Jeffery was trying to say there was no fire, his source is, after all, the official report). But if we can't use the official report or the Kerala site of course we have no source for a fire, which is ridiculous. Crawford is clearly wrong to have replaced "radical Christian extremists" twice as it never had a source, and the second replacement suggests that the JSTOR article backs it. Doug Weller talk 09:05, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
- I've discovered a new source which explains why the JSTOR article says vandalism. "In June of 1950, at the end of a period during which the temple is habitually closed, a priest discovered evidence of forced entry and arson: the temple’s store and tools rooms had been broken into, the door to the inner sanctum was smashed, the image damaged, and the temple ravaged by fire. Within days the sanctum was restored and a new image consecrated" - a PHd dissertation from the University of Chicago. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doug Weller (talk • contribs) 13:56, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
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The following sanction now applies to you:
You are topic banned for six months from all pages related to India, broadly construed.
You have been sanctioned for not following what sources actually state and overreaching when writing article content despite being strongly cautioned.
This sanction is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan#Final decision and, if applicable, the procedure described at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions. If the sanction includes a ban, please read the banning policy to ensure you understand what this means. If you do not comply with this sanction, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.
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May 2018
If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the [[WP:AE|arbitration enforcement noticeboard]] or [[WP:AN|administrators' noticeboard]]. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. ~~~~}}
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