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Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Titirangi Theatre.
Chzz- thanks for looking at my article for creation! and for your advice about adding references. I've added some new references. Am I heading in the rght direction? It is quite difficult to find online references for that kind of organisation, even though they have a significant presence in their community. All advice welcome and keep up the good work! Macsnapper (talk) 08:57, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
- Ooh, Titirangi, it's pretty there. I used to visit occasionally when I lived in Mt. Welliington, once upon a time. I'm in England now though (and I'm English)
- Yes, definitely heading the right way. It would be nice to reference all facts. For things like "can seat up to 95 people" you could use the primary source of the theatre itself, if the info is on their site. Primary sources can be used for simple, neutral facts - just not for anything 'promotional'.
- 'Stuff' is OK. Anything in any newspapers, like the Herald or anything?
- The "Productions" part is still quite promotional - e.g. "caters for ranging tastes", "highest quality", "cost-friendly, easily accessible and intimate environment" etc. - not appropriately encyclopaedic (and also, of course, not referenced)
- Probably best to remove the name "Heather Mogridge" - she does not appear to be a 'public figure', and as such we have a "presumption in favour of privacy" (WP:BLPNAME).
- "West: The history of Waitakere" - can you add the ISBN to that reference?
- Most important is, to try to add a couple more good, reliable sources to make sure the "notability" cannot be challenged.
- So, really...keep up the good work; give me another shout, any time. Cheers, Chzz ► 09:16, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
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I think I understand. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Latinguy2009 (talk • contribs) 01:28, 30 April 2011
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- Answered over there / User:Chzz/doomgaze. Chzz ► 08:45, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
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Hi Chzz, I had a question for you about a page I'm trying to edit for my class. Need to know how to add a reference to a protected reference list. Let me know if you can help. Cookeri6 (talk) 02:57, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Answered on User_talk:Cookeri6#Protected_reference_list, to give examples. Chzz ► 08:50, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
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Failure to complete AfD for Where's the Birth Certificate?
It appears you did not complete the AfD - in addition to mischaracterizing the Daily Mail article as a "passing mention", piping WP:CRYSTAL as "future publication" to make it seem as though there was a specific rule on that, and ignoring the other indicia of notability in the article such as the current bestseller status, as well as ignoring the fact that the was only minutes old and I was actively adding to it, you did not list it on the AfD page or notify me. No problem with the notification obviously - your failure to notify me only caused my to lose information one time in one edit conflict - but more importantly, I believe you should either withdraw the AfD or list it on today's page. Please do so, or better yet, withdraw the AfD, as it is unjustified. Thank you. --Regards KeptSouth (talk) 12:14, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Re. Where's the Birth Certificate? (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- It is not an article for deletion, there is no AfD (yet). It is a proposed deletion.
- I notified you of that [1]
- Anyone can remove a proposed deletion (including you), but preferably only when you have addressed the concerns. I notice that you added further references, but at present, personally, I do not feel that it shows "significant coverage in independent reliable sources". The full reason that I gave for the proposed deletion was,
- This does not appear to be a notable book (see WP:NBOOK); it is a future publication. A passing mention in Daily Mail is not enough to show notability; the publisher is a primary source and splcenter.org is a blog, and does not appear to be a reliable source. [2]
- As of now, I'm still not seeing significant independent coverage about this book. Best, Chzz ► 12:20, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Ok, sorry, I see where you did notify me - you started the prod while I was in the middle of adding to the article which itself was just a few minutes old- your posting of the prod, as I said created an edit conflict, and somehow perhaps the edit conflict caused the new message notice not to appear. I have never had a new message, without a message notice, but there's a first time for everything, I suppose.
- I am aware of the "full reason" you gave for the prod - that you have personal feelings that there is not sufficient independent coverage. However, you did not address the other concerns such as the piping of "CRYSTAL" to appear as "future publications" and the other indications of notability I have discussed in the edit summaries. - Regards -KeptSouth (talk) 14:15, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- I think mention of WP:CRYSTAL is entirely appropriate, for a book yet to be published. Chzz ► 17:43, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- I am aware of the "full reason" you gave for the prod - that you have personal feelings that there is not sufficient independent coverage. However, you did not address the other concerns such as the piping of "CRYSTAL" to appear as "future publications" and the other indications of notability I have discussed in the edit summaries. - Regards -KeptSouth (talk) 14:15, 3 May 2011 (UTC)