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== Gordon Brown == |
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Hi, I see that you reverted the entirety of my Gordon Brown edits. Could you try, instead, to improve them? For example, the current account says that Sarah Brown keeps a low public profile, which was formerly true, but is no longer true, so this does need updating, and my edits did that, with sources. Cheers! [[User:Chelseaboy|Chelseaboy]] ([[User talk:Chelseaboy|talk]]) 11:14, 14 September 2009 (UTC) |
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:Being on twitter is neither here or there and [[Sarah Brown]] has her own page you can update, your edit suprised me from someone who has been here many years, it was a derogatory attack on Gordon Brown and added nothing worthwhile to the article. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 11:16, 14 September 2009 (UTC) |
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::Thanks for your quick respnse to my request that you improve rather than revert all my Gordon Brown edits. Don't forget to assume good faith. Would you care to comment on the three other sources points, nothing to do with Twitter, which you also deleted? You might also wait a day before responding so that you can reflect a little. Always a good idea I find! Cheers. [[User:Chelseaboy|Chelseaboy]] ([[User talk:Chelseaboy|talk]]) 11:19, 14 September 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Adding daily mail gossip pieces in what resembled an attack is of no value to the BLP of [[Gordon Brown]] [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 11:23, 14 September 2009 (UTC) |
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::::Here's your addition to look at its value to the article |
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::::''Brown remained unmarried until he was 49 years old and when he appeared on [[Desert Island Discs]] he was controversially asked by the presenter, [[Sue Lawley]], if he was gay or had a personality flaw [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1180972/The-night-Sarah-Brown-wowed-Paris-Hilton-star-studded-event-LA.html]. Brown complained privately that [[Peter Mandelson]] also questioned his sexual orientation''[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-562324/Lord-Levys-book-Mandelsons-telling-people-Im-gay--I-NOT-GAY-says-Brown.html]. |
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::::''Sarah Brown rarely makes official appearances either with or without her husband but she is reported to have over 120,000 followers on a [[Twitter]] feed[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/gordon-brown/5450172/Sarah-Brown-becomes-surprise-Twitter-hit-as-husband-struggles-for-survival.html]. As her husband has struggled to gain public popularity[http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/leaders/brown], his wife has increased her public appearances with celebrities[http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2009/mar/22/sarah-brown-million-mums] [http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/celebrity/photos/who/sarah+brown.html] [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1180972/The-night-Sarah-Brown-wowed-Paris-Hilton-star-studded-event-LA.html]. This contrasts with her earlier much lower profile'' |
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::::Lets discuss the value of your additions. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 11:29, 14 September 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::I meant to refer to the three sourced edits which show Sarah Brown's increasing public profile, not to the section on Gordon Brown's appearance on Desert Islands Discs (reported on the BBC website) and his spat with Peter Mandelson (reported by [[Lord Levy]] in his book, which I simply referenced through the Daily Mail, although it is in all the main news sources. Could you confirm that you accept my good faith, I would appreciate that. Could you consider leaving in the changes which update an article which now inaccurately suggests that Sarah Brown has a low profile, this not being the case in the last year or so. Many thanks! [[User:Chelseaboy|Chelseaboy]] ([[User talk:Chelseaboy|talk]]) 11:29, 14 September 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::The Sarah brown comparison you make of her rising popularity to Gordon's unpopularity is of no value and neither is the fact that she twitters, I suggest you add it to her article, I would more remove stuff about her than add it here, I also fail to see apart from her twittering that she has a greatly increased public propfile. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 11:35, 14 September 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::::Here's what we have now about Sarah. |
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:::::::''Sarah Brown generally keeps a low profile, rarely making official appearances either with or without her husband. She is inevitably much sought after to give interviews, although is reluctant to do so.[97] She is, however, patron of several charities and has written articles for national newspapers related to this.[98] At the 2008 Labour Party Conference Mrs Brown caused surprise by taking to the stage to introduce her husband for his keynote address.[99]'' |
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:::::::It looks alright to me, it says she is the patron of some charities, and that she writes for papers...I would also say that she does generally keep a low profile, we could take that out if you like. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 11:42, 14 September 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::::I have taken '' generally keeps a low profile'' out . [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 11:48, 14 September 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::::::Sarah Brown's increased public profile has been reported all over the place, for example [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8155377.stm by the BBC]. The BBC piece includes all the bits about this which you have edited out. Hope this helps. [[User:Chelseaboy|Chelseaboy]] ([[User talk:Chelseaboy|talk]]) 11:50, 14 September 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::::::I have also removed that she is ''reluctant''. I can only suggest that the best place to add this about Sarah is Sarah's page. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 11:55, 14 September 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::There you go.. this is all there is left now about her... |
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:::::::::::Sarah Brown is patron of several charities and has written articles for national newspapers related to this.[97] At the 2008 Labour Party Conference Mrs Brown caused surprise by taking to the stage to introduce her husband for his keynote address.[98] |
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:::::::::::I can only suggest if you want to add anything regarding her that you add it to her bio. regards. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 12:14, 14 September 2009 (UTC) |
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Why do you not add it to her page? The article does not say that she has a low profile so it needs not your 7 words. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 12:47, 14 September 2009 (UTC) |
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The article is not in any way about the suggested rising profile of his wife. [[User:Off2riorob|Off2riorob]] ([[User talk:Off2riorob|talk]]) 12:48, 14 September 2009 (UTC) |