Thank you for your reviews and kind words on my talk page! You really helped me out on that one!--[[User:Mike Searson|Mike]] - [[User_talk:Mike_Searson|Μολὼν λαβέ]] 04:30, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your reviews and kind words on my talk page! You really helped me out on that one!--[[User:Mike Searson|Mike]] - [[User_talk:Mike_Searson|Μολὼν λαβέ]] 04:30, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
== Lunch ==
[[Image:Hubert hudson.jpg|thumb|left|Thanks, but I've been snacking up on [[Adélie]]s and spoilt my appetite]] Today the ''Endurance'' restaurant will be serving Blubber a-la-Emperor in a Husky jus. (At least I resisted putting it in the article). [[User:Yomangan/sig|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0000ee">Yomangani</span>]][[User_talk:Yomangan|<sup>talk</sup>]] 15:23, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I've been frogging over the past few days, and the fungi season has definitely started! I have a coral fungi that I thought you would like for wiki, plus I also have a puff ball which I will upload later, will leave a message here when it is uploaded. Saw lots of fungi over the last few days, but only photographed the really interesting ones as I was using my small memory card, and wanted to leave some space for frogs.
There was another nearby (about half a metre) which was 8cm tall, so I would go with Ramaria lorithamnus. It was taken in rainforest, was very little Eucalypt around. Do you want me to upload it to wiki? Thanks. --liquidGhoul 11:38, 20 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nomenclature of fungi
Hey there. I recently stumbled across an issue of Nova Hedwigia Beheift titled "the genera of fungi" (or was it agaricaceae?). It's filled to the brink with mind-numbing nomenclatural discussions of all the genera ever described (I think, anyway). Would it be any use if I looked up the specific ref or any specific genera? Circeus 00:20, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That would be friggin' trés bién. The first one that would be absolutely great to get a clarification on is Agaricus which was called Psalliota in many texts fro many years and I've been mystified as to why. Other articles I intend cleaning up are Amanita muscaria, which is the one I intended taking to FA first but it just didn't come together well, Gyromitra esculenta as a future FA, Agaricus bisporus as a future FA, and cleaning up the destroying angels - Amanita virosa, Amanita bisporiga and Amanita verna. Boletus edulis would be a good one to check too. let me know if anything interesting pops up. I'll see ifd I can think of any other taxonomic quagmires later today. Work just got real busy :( cheers, Cas Liber | talk | contribs 02:01, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Generally, that's pretty arcane and only relevant to genus articles, or species that were tightly involving in defining them (for example, there seems to be an odd debate over the multiple type species for Amanita). I'll look up Agaricus, Amanita (since A. muscaria's the current type) and Psalliota. I'll also dig up the ref so you can look it up yourself, with any chance. Circeus 04:52, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Cool, keen to see what pops up. cheers, Cas Liber | talk | contribs 05:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I only quickly thumbed through it and noted the full ref (Donk, M.A. (1962). "The generic names proposed for Agaricaceae". Beiheifte zur Nova Hedwigia. 5: 1–320. ISSN0078-2238.) because I forgot about it until the last minute. Psalliota looks like a classic synonym case. It shares the same type with Agaricus, and might be older. Circeus 01:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weird! I thought Linnaeus was calling all sorts of things Agaricus so I wonder how it could predate that really....anyway I am curious.cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 02:46, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, First thing I have to say is... Damn, 18th-19th century taxonomy and nomenclature of fungi is a right mess. Whose bright idea was it to give fungi 3 starting dates in the ICBN???
Etym.: Possibly "from Agarica of Sarmatica, a district of Russia" (!). Note also Greek ἀγαρικ[1]όν "a sort of tree fungus" (There's been an Agaricon Adans. genus, treated by Donk in Persoonia 1:180)
Donk says Linnaeus' name is devalidated (so that the proper author citation apparently is "L. per Fr., 1821") because Agaricus was not linked to Tournefort's name (Linnaeus places both Agaricus Dill. and Amanita Dill. in synonymy), but truely a replacement for Amanita Dill., which would require that A. quercinus, not A. campestris be the type. This question compounded by the fact that Fries himself used Agaricus roughly in Linnaeus' sense (which leads to issues with Amanita), and that A. campestris was eventually excluded from Agaricus by Karsten and was apparently in Lepiota at the time Donk wrote this, commenting that a type conservation might become necessary.
All proposals to conserve Agaricus against Psalliota or vice versa have so far been considered superfluous.
On Lepiota
Etym. Probably greek λεπις, "scale"
Basionym is Agaricus sect. Lepiota Pers. 1797, devalidated by later starting date, so the citation is (Pers.) per S.F.Gray. It was only described, without species, and covered an earlier mentioned, but unnamed group of ringed, non-volvate species, regardless of spore color. Fries restricted the genus to white-spored species, and made into a tribe, which was, like Amanita repeatedly raised to genus rank.
The type is unclear. L. procera is considered the type (by Earle, 1909). Agaricus columbrinus (L. clypeolarus) was also suggested (by Singer, 1946) to avoid the many combination involved otherwise in splitting Macrolepiota, which include L. procera. Since both species had been placed into different genera prior to their selection (in Leucocoprinus and Mastocephalus respectively), Donk observes that a conservation will probably be needed, expressing support for Singer's emendation.
On Psalliota
Etym.: ψάλιον, "ring"
Psalliota was first published by Fries (1821) as trib. Psalliota. The type is Agaricus campestris (widely accepted, except by Earle, who proposed A. cretaceus). Kummer (not Quélet, who merely excluded Stropharia) was the first to elevate the tribe to a genus. Basically, Psalliota was the tribe containing the type of Agaricus, so when separated, it should have caused the rest of the genus to be renamed, not what happened. It seems to be currently not considered valid, or a junior homotypic synonym, anyway the explanation is that it was raised by (in retrospect) erroneously maintaining the tribe name.
On Amanita
Etym.: Possibly from Amanon,a mountain in Cilicia.
A first incarnation from Tentamen dispositionis methodicae Fungorum 65. 1797 is cited as devalidated: "Introduced to cover three groups already previously distinguished by Persoon (in [...] Tent. 18. 1797) under Agaricus L., but at that time not named. It is worth stressing that [The species now known as Amanita caesarea] was not mentioned."
With Agaricus L. in use, Amanita was a nomen nudum per modern standard, so Persoon gave it a new life unrelated to its previous incarnations, and that is finally published after a starting date by Hooker (the citation is Pers. per Hook., 1821). He reuses Withering's 1801 definition (A botanical arrangement of British plants, 4th ed.). "The name Amnita has been considered validly published on different occasions, depending on various considerations." Proposed types include (given as Amanita. Sometimes they were selected as Agarici):
A. livida Pers. (By Earle, in 1909). Had been excluded in Vaginata or Amanitopsis and could not be chosen.
A. muscaria Pers. (By Clemens & Shear, 1931) for the genus (1801) from Synopsis fungorum, was generally transferred to the one from Hooker's Flora of Scotland, which is currently considered the valid publication of Amanita (or was in the 50s).
A. phalloides (by Singer, 1936) for the 1801 genus.
A.bulbosa (by Singer & Smith, 1946) for Gray's republication. This is incorrect as Gray's A. bulbosa is a synonym of A. citrina. Some authors consider Gray to be the first valid republisher.
A. caeserea (by Gilbert, 1940). Troublesome because not known personally to Persoon or Fries.
Donk concludes the earliest valid type is A. muscaria, the species in Hooker, adding that he'd personally favor A. citrina.
The name has been republished three times in 1821: in Hooker, Roques and Gray (in that order). Roques maintained Persoon's circumscription, including Amanitopsis and Volvaria. Gray excluded Amanitopsis and Volvariella into Vaginata. Right after, Fries reset the name by reducing the genus to a tribe of Agaricus, minus pink-spored Volvariella. This tribe became a subgenus, than genus via various authors, Quélet, altough not the first, often being attributed the change. Sometimes it was used in a Persoonian sense (whether that is a correct use according to ICBN is not clear to me).
Homonyms of Amanita Pers. are Amanita adans. (1763, devalidated) and Amanita (Dill) Rafin. (1830)
I hope you intend to clean that prose ASAP? It's definitely not article-worthy as is. Circeus 01:05, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm working on it. Got distracted this morning...cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 01:08, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Pablo's real legacy
Your edit about free range hippos stirred my deepest, darkest desire on Wikipedia -- to create the page Pablo Escobar's hippos. Have you ever read about this? A hippo critical situation, LA Times. I'd never create the page... the deletionists would go bonkers! But I can dream, oh yes! PS I think you're right on the white rhinos. Wait until the article takes better shape, but no reason to turn the subspecies into redirects so early in the process. And Asiatic Lion shows that a subspecies article can definitely have merit. I've been a bit distracted lately from the beasties. --JayHenry 16:04, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
B. victoriae
Cas, I don't suppose you can dig up a photo of B. victoriae? The article has two images, but both are intrinsic to the taxonomic history narrative, and I am loathe to remove either into the taxobox. By the way, you might like to have a read of the taxonomy section there; there's an interesting story there that you won't have read in anything of George's. Hesperian 13:43, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I thought the same (re: baxteri). But Bentham gives them both as victoriae in Flora Australiensis, and if I trust anyone, I trust him. Hesperian 23:47, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Curiouser and curiouser! I misread those sources - it is only the later seed that is attributed to Drummond. To be flowering in 1835 that seed must have reached England by 1832 at the latest. But Drummond didn't start sending plants and seed back to England until conscripted by Mangles to do so in 1835, and B. speciosa is not in Meissner's 1852 list of species collected by Drummond. As far as I know, Baxter only visited the south coast. I don't think Fraser went further north than the Swan River. Molloy never strayed far from Augusta. Hügel didn't reach Australia until the end of 1833; too late. Where oh where did those seeds come from? Perhaps they wereB. baxteri; maybe that's why George has ignored the whole episode. Gosh this is exciting. Hesperian 00:38, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
ndashes
HTML ndashes suck. If you're on a Windows box, you can get a real ndash (i.e. unicode) by holding down the ALT key and typing 0150 on the numeric keypad. Hesperian 11:35, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm...thanks for the tip. I'll try that next. cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 13:33, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for indulging me, dude. :-) Hesperian 00:00, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If, like me, you're stuck with a laptop without a numeric pad with ALT functionality, n- and m-dashes are the two firsts characters after "insert" in the list placed under the edit window. Circeus 22:54, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
FWIW, I've edited my keyboard layout for "easy" dashes with a little Microsoft utility (yes, I use Windows). It takes a while to set up, but now I can add en and em dashes with only two keystrokes—quite an improvement for WP editing :) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 23:57, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I add shortkeys all the time on various programs. If i used a reallot of weird characters, I'd totally do that to have across windows. Circeus 16:34, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
stuff
I've done ssp of Rock Pigeon, sent Song Thrush to fac. I'll have a look later for the robin refs , but not sure that I've got the ones you need. Jimfbleak (talk) 07:34, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've now made a draft. Sorry for the delay. I hope you will want to add your name to the list of participants. Geometry guy 21:23, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
GA/FA
I see the problem with AmRob, not sure that we can do anything more than you have done. While Song Thrush is at FAC, there are a couple of possibilities for the next. One is Chough, but I've also tarted up Aerodramus a bit. do you think it's a runner? I'd like to get a genus through FA Jimfbleak (talk) 13:05, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please please please do an RfB Cas. You'd be awesome. dihydrogen monoxide (H20) 09:46, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Concur. And I supported your mushroom. --Laser brain (talk) 05:51, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hödekin
On 28 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hödekin, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Do you think it's ready for a GA drive yet? ScarianCall me Pat 20:20, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yup, I'm gonna spell check it, read it, run it through AWB and then big it up for GA ;-) Got my back, Mr.Mushroom? :-D ScarianCall me Pat 20:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Dobbing him in
[2] Personally, I am holding out for seeing his name on a certain list in November. Of course, if the other comes to pass first, then I'll reconsider. ;) Risker (talk) 03:43, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
([reply]
Hehe, 1 yr admin anniversary is in late October.....what's in November......aaah, arbcom elections.... (?) [[::User:Casliber|Casliber]] ([[::User talk:Casliber|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Casliber|contribs]]) 04:22, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Oh how very bright of you. I see it pays to have started watchlisting the talk pages of a better class of editor - so much more enlightened. Risker (talk) 04:56, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Careful, you're feeding my natural narcissism..(unless you mean his talk page). :) [[::User:Casliber|Casliber]] ([[::User talk:Casliber|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Casliber|contribs]]) 04:59, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Actually, I think I followed you both home from someone else's talk page, but it is all good. Not to get all stalkerish or anything - I just figure it's a good way to be exposed to the more positive aspects of the encyclopedia. You know, the writing and all... Risker (talk) 05:09, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it's funny how you can tell who's looking at whose contributions by edits to certain articles popping up here and there...and following odd threads of conversations etc. [[::User:Casliber|Casliber]] ([[::User talk:Casliber|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Casliber|contribs]]) 05:22, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
RAD
Many fervent thanks Cas, for your erudite and positive contribution. I hope the mushrooms haven't suffered. Fainitesbarley 15:58, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Now when exactly is the heliacal rising of Sirius this year? Should be today's FA on that date....[[::User:Casliber|Casliber]] ([[::User talk:Casliber|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Casliber|contribs]]) 07:37, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Mid-July.—RJH (talk) 17:24, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Update
Hey there, see you had a good crack at A. muscaria and it's looking good, both seem close, think I'll have a go at Gyromitra esculenta today. See you there? Cheers Mr Bungle | talk 23:47, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The rearrange looks much better, that section was getting a bit crowded. I sort of left the variation/preparation bits alone (might come back to the article again in the future and see if I can add a few refs).
p.s. I noticed your friend SineBot isn't following you around anymore :) Cheers Mr Bungle | talk 07:45, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
a namespace concern
Hi. I'll look at the links you posted to me. I thought you might be interested in these threads where I've explained a concern of mine that is part of why I believe some things should be deleted. The talk is fairly spread about and you'll have to read some of the stuff linked to for it to hold together.
I get the idea. Yes that is a valid point. Were it me, I would ensure on correct naming of low profile articles (say, a TV episode) with a parenthetic epithet so as not to muck up or occupy possible important article or disambiguations. [[::User:Casliber|Casliber]] ([[::User talk:Casliber|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Casliber|contribs]]) 09:01, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
PS: This would be the most valid reason for merging I have seen thus far and I am surprised more prominence was not made of it earlier though I must admit I can't keep up with the sheer volume of dialogue - life's too short....[[::User:Casliber|Casliber]] ([[::User talk:Casliber|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Casliber|contribs]]) 09:03, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
This is a problem project wide and is a fundamental interaction between anyone can edit and discussion is encourage. It is, of course, also due to the "anyones" not having anything like a project wide view of things; they care about Buffy or whatever niche they are obsessed with. See here for a D&D example. This is one thing when the subject is notable (rather is kept around) but is gets quite messy when, for whatever reason, things go. Care to take-on the clean-up of old article under One For the Money? Needs that admin bit to split the histories. Cheers, Jack Merridew 09:12, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I wondered if you might respond to my plaintive cry? --Dweller (talk) 16:31, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, you glorious angel, you. --Dweller (talk) 23:34, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
RAD
The Reviewers Award
Many thanks for all your help. Hope I can do the same for a Mushroom one day. Fainitesbarley 19:48, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My RfA
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My RFA
Thank you muchly for your support in my recent request for adminship, which was successfully closed on 76%, finishing at 73 supports, 23 opposes and 1 neutral. The supports were wonderful, and I will keep in mind the points made in the useful opposes and try to suppress the Larry David in me! Now I'm off to issue some cool down blocks, just to get my money's worth!
I've got a file of notes on the folklore of fairy rings. My computer's been acting up and will be sent to the doctor tomorrow, but I should be able to start editing the fairy ring article in the next week, two weeks tops. I've found tons of stuff on Celtic superstitions and folklore, and a bit on other regions. Hopefully with a bit more searching we can fill in some of the superstitions from other parts of the world. It's a fascinating subject! — Dulcem (talk) 13:12, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In response to your FAC comments recommending the addition of more info about the "Canyonero" and discussion of it in secondary news sources, I have searched multiple news archives and databases and added some more information with new citations to the Cultural references section. Unfortunately after searching through these various databases I was unable to find any secondary sources that mentioned which specific Ford commercial was being parodied - so it is possible that this comment made in the DVD commentary for the episode really does just mean that Ford commercials in general from that time period were being parodied, and not a specific commercial. I hope I have done enough to respond to your FAC comments, and perhaps to change your sentiment at the FAC page? If not, please let me know. Thanks for your time, Cirt (talk) 10:51, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My request for bureaucratship
Your comments made me laugh. It's all a bit blokey, isn't it? I'll try next time. ;) ~ Riana ⁂ 11:48, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Gotta love natural cruft, there are 30 000 species of daisy in the world, which is alot but dwarfed by the 300 000 species of beetle. I made some stubs which are now on my watchlist, but I am knackered and need to sleep now...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Consider the view that the human footprint on this planet, which includes cutting all the trees that go into all those D&D magazines and sourcebooks, is what's destroying the habitat of those daisies and beetles, not to mention the worms.
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When the last living thing has died on account of us, how poetical it would be if the Earth could say, in a voice floating up perhaps from the floor of the Grand Canyon, “It is done.” People didn't like it here. —Kurt Vonnegut
This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. TTN(talk· contribs · deleted contribs · logs ·filter log· block user ·block log) is prohibited for six months from making any edit to an article or project page related to a television episode or character that substantially amounts to a merge, redirect, deletion, or request for any of the preceding, to be interpreted broadly. However, he is free to contribute on the talk pages or to comment on any AfD, RfD, DRV, or similar discussion initiated by another editor, as appropriate. Enforcement of this remedy is specified here.
Furthermore, the parties are instructed to cease engaging in editorial conflict and to work collaboratively to develop a generally accepted and applicable approach to the articles in question, and are warned that the Committee will look very unfavorably on anyone attempting to further spread or inflame this dispute. Please also note that the temporary injunction enacted by the Committee on February 3 in relation to this case now ceases to be in effect.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Daniel (talk) 23:59, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave some moments ago. Oh, and when you're ready do an FA (any FA) I'd be honoured to assist you in any way I can. --Dweller (talk) 09:49, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
[Do we still need more bureaucrats?
Thanks for chiming in at WT:RFA with such a typically level-headed contribution. --Dweller (talk) 10:27, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Har har, all this talk an' I'll get a big 'ead n'all next...[[::User:Casliber|Casliber]] ([[::User talk:Casliber|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Casliber|contribs]]) 10:33, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
My RfB
Hi Cas, just wanted to say thanks for your support and kind words at my recent RfB which passed successfully with (133/4/3). Hope that I can live up to your expectations! The Rambling Man (talk) 16:34, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Arabian horses
If you look on here, you'll see my "working" list, of Arabians (and a whole bunch else) that I think should be done. User:Ealdgyth I pulled them from Carpenter's Arabian Legends book. Ealdgyth | Talk 04:17, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Friends of ours left Texas to go work for Simeon Stud down in Oz land. I had a grandson of Ibn Halima at one point, but sold him a while back. Right now, I'm not buying ANY more stallions, sticking to mares. Love the Halima's though, sweet horses. Ealdgyth | Talk 04:25, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I just looked (first look) and noticed that it was invoking {{Contains Indic text}} which had an issue which I've just fixed. I try and take a meta-view; this fix cleans-up an issue in several hundred articles. There's table near me at the moment, made of a single piece of teak; it's a about a meter wide, more than 2 long, and 15cm thick. It's going fast. Cheers, Jack Merridew 13:10, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hey! I've unblocked Kingoftonga86 after he requested unblocking, claiming it was his roommate. As you blocked him with the reason "vandal only account" I checked the contribs (dating back to 2005) and all except the ones in February are fine. I've got him on my watchlist just in case, Poeloq (talk) 22:30, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds fine to me. I am glad I was wrong and am happy to assume good faith now (dunno why that didn't come up on my watchlist...) :) [[::User:Casliber|Casliber]] ([[::User talk:Casliber|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Casliber|contribs]]) 22:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Your sig
I think someone forgot to tell you, but your sig's being discussed at WP:BN. So now you know! :-) --Dweller (talk) 14:09, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just a follow-up to this, the problem is that your sig as two colons at the front of each link. This isn't needed, and I think you're subst:ing {{user}} to get this effect. Here's what you should change your sig to:
On 13 March, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Boletus barrowsii, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
On the DYK on the Main page, it says something about being a favorite food for maggots. Yet when I read the article, it said nothing about it. Am I confused? I hate mushrooms, so it may be that I'm really confused!!! I've seen your edits on lots of articles, didn't know you were a mushroom guy too. OrangeMarlinTalk• Contributions 19:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The last line of the description section. I just found a really cool free-use photo (how cool is it, like a cake on a stalk...). Always like fungi, dunno why. Only 5% of Australian species are formally described. If you hate normal mushroom, dried porcini (Boletus edulis) are bit different, you reconsitute them and they make pasta really nice. Also, Oyster mushrooms are less like normal mushrooms - these you can get in boutique or chinese or italian markets etc. Casliber (talk· contribs) 19:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My anti-fungal stance comes from the fact that toenail fungus and edible mushrooms are the same thing!!!! LOL. Seriously, I just can't get my palate around mushrooms. I went to this business meeting once, and what I thought was roast beef was in fact a big giant gross mushroom of some sort. I have only now recovered psychologically. OrangeMarlinTalk• Contributions 21:11, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Try this on aesthetically, I have a crop of Agaricus xanthodermus in my garden - they smell to me like a cross between shampoo and asphalt, stronger when we get one of the 4-5 crops of mushrooms a year but you can still sense it at other times. Judging from digging around it is about a 3-4 metre diameter circular area. My other half really hates the smell...but how do you get rid of it? Casliber (talk· contribs) 01:38, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh great, one bare earth policy coming up....Casliber (talk· contribs) 01:55, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'll be honest. In like 10 years of college, medical school and graduate school, I took 0, that would zero, mycology courses. In fact, as part of my graduate degree research, I had to culture fetal hepatocytes (oops, don't let the anti-abortion nutjobs know that). I couldn't use gentamycin in my cell culture media as it might have an effect on the biochemistry of the cell. About 1 week before I was to lyse the cells and fractionate the proteins, all of my cultures got attacked by some fungus. It was war from that day on. Portabellos are my are on my list for eradication. DOWN WITH MUSHROOMS. OrangeMarlinTalk• Contributions 02:00, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Threw refs and infoboxes and pedigrees at them. That look like enough to keep them for a bit? Ealdgyth | Talk 22:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Brilliant. Just what the doctor ordered. Thanks very much. Casliber (talk· contribs) 22:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You're on your own there, I don't own stuff on resonably recent Arabians in Europe. Well, I have a Russian Arabian stud book, but it's in Russian, so it's not much help.... Ealdgyth | Talk 01:38, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
RfA - Discospinster
Thank you so much for your support in my RfA, which was successful with a final count of 70/1/1! ... discospinstertalk 23:53, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Now this is a plant I can love. DOWN WITH MUSHROOMS. OrangeMarlinTalk• Contributions 02:01, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Earth Day April 22
Hey Cas, Maybe we could have a wildlife, plant, or fungus TFA on Earth Day, April 22. Lion, perhaps? Kla’quot (talk | contribs) 04:45, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Now that's a good idea. We can tell Raul to take his pick really....on the long-term requests pageCasliber (talk· contribs) 04:54, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Cool. Do you want to do the honours? You know the FA backlog better than I do. Kla’quot (talk | contribs) 05:01, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I'll post something in a sec...Casliber (talk· contribs) 05:03, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A user is making some rather suspicious changed to the Oasis article. Here is one example: [3] (Just scroll down and you'll see what I mean). What do you think? Are they warranted? ScarianCall me Pat 10:04, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've seen him before, he does a lot of work on music pages, but tends to do things his way and walk the line with WP:OWN. He made this comment [4] on the Iron Maiden page a while back. I think he's well-meaning, but I'm not certain all the changes he makes are uniform. Redrocket (talk) 10:07, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, as you can tell I've run into him before. I just think removing a source and paragraph right after GA is just a bit too... um... illogical. If it passed with it, then what's the harm in keeping it? ScarianCall me Pat 10:14, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I can see the rationale behind changing years to 1997, as it was still the after-effects of britpop time. I'm not sure about removing the edits though. The article is only 40kb. Casliber (talk· contribs) 10:31, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Guitar Barnstar
For your excellent contributions to the Oasis (band) article and all other musical articles that you get involved in. Never leave Wikipedia! :-) ScarianCall me Pat 12:30, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
......(long pause)...i was trying to think of some nonchalant sounding Liam Gallagheresque-type expression, but failed...thanks :) Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 12:33, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers
What happened to the "Cheers" in your sig?! I always loved it. It is impossible to abuse or insult someone if you know that you are destined to close your comment with such a friendly word. And even when you did seem to be pissed off, the "cheers" at the end always softened the blow - it turned "you're being a dick" into "you're being a dick but I hope we can be friends anyway". Hesperian 11:51, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I was mucking around with the signature some time back and had intended to put it back in...(thanks for reminding me..)Casliber (talk· contribs) 12:10, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, and thanks for your support in my recent RFA! The final result was 61/0/3, so I've been issued the mop! I'm extremely grateful for your confidence in me and will strive to live up to it. Thanks again! —Scott5114↗[EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 07:46, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Peer review idea
Hi, I have made a proposal that no peer review request be archived without some response. To aid in this, there is a new list of PR requests at least one week old that have had no repsonses beyond a semi-automated peer review. This list is at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog.
There are just over 100 names on the PR volunteers page, so I figure if each of these volunteers reviewed just one or two PR requests without a response from the list each month, it would easily take care of the "no response" backlog (as there have been 2 or 3 such unanswered requests a day on average).
If you would be able to help out with a review or two a month from the "no responses" backlog list that would be great (and much appreciated). Please discuss questions, comments, or ideas at the PR talk page and thanks in advance for your help, Ruhrfisch><>°° 00:06, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
On 16 March, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article René Maire, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
However, I don't think the suspicion can ever be dispelled. White Cat has been posting this all over the place. He post repeatedly to the arbitrators talk pages, Jimbeau's; it is pretty much all he's done for the last month. This is the idea behind the Big Lie; repeat something often enough and people associate things. Repeat after me; Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, Weapon of mass destruction. Advice welcome; or questions. Cheers, Jack Merridew 13:59, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Article importance scale for WikiProject Equine
Hello. WikiProject Equine is discussing an article importance scale here. Your POV would be appreciated. --Una Smith (talk) 16:30, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Madonga
"Dis", I think, means "away from"; slightly more appropriate than the (completely) "unsatisfied" here, perhaps. Tony(talk) 11:02, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
the Sydney Journal
Hi there,
Just thought I'd drop you, and the other sydneysiders who came to the meetup, a line and mention that the first edition of the Dictionary of Sydney's online, peer-reviewed journal is now live.
The Sydney Journal is the first (and most academically rigorous) "product" of the Dictionary. It will be a quarterly publication with a variety of texts from upcoming Dictionary articles and is hosted by UTS E-press. This edition features 4 thematic articles, 6 ethnicities and 5 suburbs - all specifically related to Sydney.
I hope you find it useful and interesting - If nothing else it's essays are eminently referenceable for their corresponding articles here on WP.
Thanks for your support on my request for adminship, which passed 92/2/2. And it's a no-brainer for me to keep on doing what I'm doing. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:05, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Could you resurrect Allison Sudradjat to User:Jack Merridew/Allison Sudradjat? This was deleted last May. I'm not sure I care to try and resurrect this as an article, but White Cat seems very intent on my early edits and I really don't recall just when I worked on this and believe bringing it back into my userspace will let me see those edits again - and when they were made. I expect most the edits to this article were circa May 8 [5]. If resurrecting this will not restore the edits to my contribs, don't bother. Oh, any other interesting deleted edits of mine from back then? Admins can see such, right? Cheers, Jack Merridew 10:35, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All the other deleted contribs around May 2007 of yours are pop culture stuff, which I presume you don't mean. Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 10:44, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
PS: I know Gnangarra and he's even minded and reasonable, even had a few beers with him in Perth, so shouldn't be a problem with reliable refs. Will have a look. Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 10:44, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
re old deleted pop-culture edits; no, I probably don't want those restored; but a plain-text listing of my deleted edits for April and May last year would be interesting, or even a complete list of deleted edits; User:Jack Merridew/deleted edits? I'm not sure what the policies are on this sort of stuff; not intending to get you into muddy water. Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:08, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I see Gnangarra was the closing/deleting admin — just doing the consensus thing. The restore you've done has not restored the history of the article or the edits to my contribs, which is my immediate interest. So… nudge, nudge… dig a bit deeper? It'll shift my focus off non-notable stuff for a bit! I know from a friend that Allison did a lot of good things; better sources my be googleable now (and I'm better at finding stuff now). See {{Honorverse}} for what I've been looking at. Also, I tweak my user page after my comments to you yesterday on my talk page. Thanks and cheers, Jack Merridew 10:55, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK - I'll try to move history. hang on. I might have to erase the page above. Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 11:11, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
(outdent) - right done. how's that? Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 11:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ya, looks fine; thanks. As expected, created May 8th. Cheers, Jack Merridew 11:21, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nope. I am in Sydney. Not familiar with this user at all. Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 12:22, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Might just be me taking after a certain cat. The fellow I suspect is behind (and checkuser confirmed) Samineric and company has a habit of going after Kiwi academics in Oz such as Martin Banwell, in Canberra. User:Alison will likely block the two I linked to above when she next focuses on that case. Cheers, Jack Merridew 12:38, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting, and notable, articles; they just found the wrecks. Cheers, Jack Merridew 10:58, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely, I'd be surprised if a bunch of military-type folk don't hop right in there... Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 11:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've not read them all the way through yet but the news is covered. Cheers, Jack Merridew 12:13, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
RfA Thanks
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Thanks!
So, yeah, you know how these work... »»»»
Thank you very much for your support in my recent RfA, which closed with a final tally of (75/1/0). Your trust in me is greatly appreciated, and I can assure you it has not been misplaced. I shall use these tools to the best of my ability, and will do my best not to let you down. Thank you once again, and happy editing as always! Hersfold(t/a/c) 20:06, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Translation Request
That is a pretty shitty German article about him. Do you have a better source? Not sure that the German provides much more than a stub. Eusebeus (talk) 03:49, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have anything at home, and google is tricky. Wading through I found this which has a photo I suspect is old enough to be Free (rather than Fair Use). It'd be easy to get a list of critters he named, which I haven't done yet. I agree the German page is meagre but there seemed to be a bit more to add to the stubby stub exising on en.wiki. I'll keep looking. Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 04:28, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I see SG got round to that stub. So to compensate I have translated the entry for Hermann_Theodor_Geyler. Perhaps you can round it out and add refs, sources, a fuller bibliography and other such crap. The French have a good selection of Paleo & bot articles fyi. However, their accuracy is something I cannot comment on. Eusebeus (talk) 16:30, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm...interesting. I did some rouitne housekeeping but am still bleary eyed. Need to finish cornflakes and drink coffee before doing anything which requires a cerebral cortex...Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 20:10, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
dash it
Dashes as interrupters: many styleguides say it should be an unspaced em dash—but that's thought old-fashioned by some folk, who prefer a spaced en dash – MOS allows both, but hints that spaced em dashes — like this — are not the norm. My preference—you know—is for the unspaced em.
Me, I hate those spaced em dashes, coz they're just too likely to hang at the end of a line — besides, they're so wide that they're visually intrusive.
What do you think? You might wish to have your say here, where Noetica is trying to garner consensus for proscribing the spaced em dash – leaving just the standard two options.
PS Here's the stark difference:
diddley squat - yadda yadda [hyphen – not allowed]
I would like to thank you for your participation in my recent RfA, which I'm very glad to say was successful at 81/7/0. Some of the very best that Wikipedia has to offer came out to support or oppose me and the kind words from all the editors has really given me confidence to be an admin and I can't wait to start. I will take the advice of the opposes and not jump into any content disputes immediately. As well, I will try to add more content myself. Anyways, in thanks for participating in my RfA, here's your very own personal humanoid robot. Enjoy! --ÐeadΣyeДrrow (Talk - Contribs) 14:07, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Infant Formula
I would like to resolve our dispute about POV with respect to the Infant_Formula page. Several others have commented on the bias/POV problems with the page. As it stands there is far more information about Breastfeeding on the wiki than about Infant Formula.
The preponderance of references cited are not directly related to Infant Formula. This is not to say that the sources are not reputable but irrelevant. Most of the references don't even include participants making use of Infant Formula. None claim that their conclusions are broadly applicable given the small sample size, lack of replication, lack of ethnic and regional diversity in the samples, etc...
The elements of this article that violate NPOV are important but are better placed in a separate wiki that is linked to from the Infant Formula wiki.65.7.144.194 (talk) 20:56, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Happy First Day of Autumn!
Happy First Day of Spring!
Just wishing you a wonderful First Day of Spring {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}}! ~~~~
If you live in the Southern Hemisphere and are entering the season of Autumn not Spring then I wish you a happy First Day of Autumn {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}}! To spread this message to others, add {{subst:First Day Of Spring}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
It's not in the genre of articles you're into, so if you don't want to review it, I totally understand. Trust. Just dropping a request, as I'm going for FA. Thanks for your consideration. Regards, Lara❤Love 05:30, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'll have a look a bit later. Its 430PM here and I'll be tied up for a little while..Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 05:38, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you. :) Lara❤Love 15:34, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Bipolar Disorder edit
Hi,
Regarding this edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bipolar_disorder&diff=prev&oldid=199938167 I agree that the claim needs proper sourcing, but to say that "I've never seen it and all those symptoms are more bpd anyway" is far from solid justification. As someone with bipolar disorder I have been told repeatedly by many different mental health professionals the same thing: Mixed states are dangerous.
OK, seen that. I am a psychiatrist in clinical practice. Organising both these articles and commenting is a tricky business. I do not think that BPD should be merged into the bipolar spectrum WRT classification, as they have a pretty different course and you generally see different things in the developmental history. Also, the medications used are different in some very improtant ways. Now I think about it, sometimes (not that often) I do occasionally see people with hypomania or mixed states manifesting symptoms, but I would place it somehwere else in the article. I have to run now but will look into it later. How broad Bipolar disorder is defined is a controversial issue currently Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 23:32, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for responding. I see that you carry some weight around here at Wikipedia but you'll have to forgive me for my skepticism at your claim of being a psychiatrist; it's nothing personal. Having said that I'll try and hunt down some literature on mixed affective states as they apply to bipolar disorder. Thanks again. DeeKenn (talk) 02:14, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Copyediting requests
As I said over at WT:PLANTS, it'd take something really interesting to make me do a full blown copyediting (beyond just reading and fixing obvious stuff). Copyediting is a big endeavour for me (just copyediting the references can easily take a good hour or two), and I'm in a bit of a pinch these days (even though I'm still procrastinating like hell over what I should be doing, I can't start a copyedit ATM). As such, while I might just come back to look at it at a later date, I really, really can't guarantee anything.
I want to take this chance to note that I was really the worst person to ask for that Gyromitra text. Unfortunately, it happens actually combining sources in an article is the part of wikiediting that gives me the most headaches. This is why I've made fairly few whole articles, since writing Édifice Price and Verbascum thapsus really taught me how much of a challenge it truly is for me; back when I studied redaction, text summarizing was by far my weakest area, and article-writing hits right there. So combining an extensive source into an existing article, with language barriers involved in a topic where I'm not really that knowledgeable (especially the English terminology)? I just didn't have the... momentum (?) for it anymore. Circeus (talk) 06:48, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, just thought I'd ask as it is probably still my biggest weakness (my inner slob anyway). I feel guilty trying too hard to lure anyone back to wikipedia, too much other life to live..Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 08:53, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
my RFA
Thank you!
Thank you for your support in my RFA. The final vote count was (73/3/1), so I am now an administrator. Please let me know if at any stage you need help, or if you have comments on how I am doing as an admin. Have a nice day! :) AletaSing 17:00, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
RfA
Hi there Casliber. Thanks for your support on my recent unsuccessful RfA. I'll be back in a few months with more experience and more coaching, hopefully I still have your support then. Thanks again - Tanthalas39 (talk) 22:53, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks
Hello, just passing by to thank you for your review of Chrysiridia rhipheus, and to inform you I've "copied" your userpage layout (but modified sections and colors). So a double thank you for you.Pro bug catcher (talk • contribs). 02:54, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. It was designed by Phaedriel who kindly did mine. You did a great job with the colour and layout - I've had trouble figuring out exactly which shade of green looks best. Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 05:39, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I, too, have now shamelessly copied your userpage. I will continue to customize it a bit, and remove the parts not applicable to me (obviously), but let me know if you have any sort of issues with this (copyright? ;-) Tan | 39 22:28, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
un-named editor
I have had to do a lot of tidy up work after user 87.204.58.50. I think he is a new editor with his own photographic website as fas as I could determine from what I assume are his uploads on wikicommons. He appears to be following some hints I have given him. He does have some good bird photos, and he has been putting them in the infobox by replacing and deleting the original one. Sometimes the new images are an improvement and sometimes they are not, but nearly always the original photo being the best should be kept somewhere on the page. He has just started uploading photos with a name in them which I guess from from wiki commons and the website is his name - with unknown spam implications. I hope he can continue to improve the wiki, and that he gets to known some of the wiki guidelines better. Snowman (talk) 13:02, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
(sigh)....I saw a few of his edits popping up on my watchlist...I really need to sleep now but will try to check the contribs tomorrow and help adjudicate. Better bolster up some articles with some text to accompany the photos...Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 13:06, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
More changes to infobox images on "Black-browed Albatross" and "White Rhinoceros". Snowman (talk) 21:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I like the new albatross one, haven't checked the otheer yet. Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 21:42, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Are you stalking me????
How dare you edit 30 Days of Night: Blood Trails after me??? LOL. Someone is going to look at our contributions and think that we're two nutjobs of some high level. :) OrangeMarlinTalk• Contributions 21:30, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
oh for gosh sakes, when I see a scary edit summary like that, I'm forced to click for a look-see ... :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:40, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry. Well, not really. I hope you didn't click on the link to the movie. Then you'll really be sorry. OrangeMarlinTalk• Contributions 02:43, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
We saw 30 Days of Night last week, and then I read about it and found out about FEARnet, which was cool..except that being in Australia I can't download the %$%$#&$# Blood Trails (grr)...(I hadn't even noticed the edit history..)..Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 03:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Now, don't tell SandyGeorgia this, but I'm really into Zombie movies and books. I take off of work (and Wikipedia) just to see the opening of Resident Evil, or the next George Romero flick. Of course, I don't mind a spoof now and again like Shaun of the Dead!!!! 28 Days Later is one my all-time favorites. I need to check off List of zombie films to determine which I've seen!!!! Oh well, the WikiProject Medicine is going to ban us too. BTW, I just saw Shrooms. I'm now convinced more than ever that fungi are evil. OrangeMarlinTalk• Contributions 04:41, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Heh heh, that Shrooms one looks funny, and still have to see latest RE - RE4 on GameCube was a really really fun game to play :)....what?!....Have I missed something on WP:MED? Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 04:54, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Shrooms has a nice twist at the end. Don't read the article here, it gives it away. It should be out down in your part of the planet in a few months.
I'm not into video games. Well, except for war games. Call of Duty--kill some Nazis is always good for my well-being. OrangeMarlinTalk• Contributions 05:04, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Sure....for mañana...Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 11:57, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Screenshot of Banksia integrifolia on front page
.....now where was that screenshot you did...Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 22:58, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Here it is. Betacommandbot tagged it as an orphaned non-free image, and I couldn't be bothered arguing the case.[7] By all means resurrect it if you are prepared to defend it. Hesperian 23:35, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It will not let me restore it for some reason. I can't get at the image..Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 01:43, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Restored. You had better do something about that tag or it won't last long. Hesperian 02:50, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Carrikeri Harlequin Frog
Casliber,
Hello again (after a long, school-forced break). I'm currently on Spring Break, so have begun editing again. I've been working on the Carrikeri Harlequin Frog article and am coming up short looking for the roots of its genus name, Atelopus. I was wondering if you could figure out where this generic name comes from. Thanks, and let me know if I can help you. Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 21:45, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Aah. I will look when I get home. the -pus is latinized from the -pous for "foot", the rest I will figure out later. I am in need of someone to look over Emperor Penguin for a copyedit. I think it is virtually complete but I am frustrated in finding material for its use in zoos. Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 22:08, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I'll give it a copyedit soon, either tonight or tomorrow night. Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 23:47, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
RFA
Exhibit G of why I won't run for now: Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/BirgitteSB. I don't plan to be very active either, and I've only been here half as long as Birgitte, and have slightly lower edit counts and whatnot. I'm really flattered that you'd nominate, but Birgitte was nominated by Tim Vickers, who's a great user too, and it has done nothing for her. No way I'd pass an RFA in the current climate. --JayHenry (talk) 05:44, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Vipera berus
Although I just reverted all of your recent edits to Vipera berus (I like the current format and I have several hundred articles formatted exactly the same way), I want you to know that I'm impressed with your work and think we have a lot in common. I'm also jealous of the fact that the botany people have managed to standardize the use of scientific names for their article titles while the zoology people have not. Not only is it easier to get editors to appreciate the taxonomic hierarchy this way, but with the zillions of different common names in use for snakes, it's the only solution in my view.
Listing a few of the most common names above the lead section was something I developed a few years ago as a response to criticism that I was not using common names for article titles. It was said that one or more common names were not easy enough to find when mixed into the lead section, even when highlighted with bold typeface. So, I put them where they were sure to be seen. Also, I hoped this would nip any puma/cougar debates in the bud. It seems to have worked: in almost two years, I've got only a single request to place one common name before another!
Anyway, as I've said on the V. berus talk page, I really have put in a lot of time and effort into maintaining a consistent format across hundreds of articles. Consequently, I'm all for improving things, but I've become rather averse to making any more drastic changes. Looking at your very fine articles, I can see where your formatting ideas come from, but I would not want to impose my formatting ideas on your articles either. Some day, perhaps by using advanced templates (now there's a thought), all of WP's natural history articles will end up looking the same, but we're not that far yet. (PS -- Please answer here, as I've temporarily added your talk page to my watchlist). --Jwinius (talk) 00:05, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
(sigh) Yeah, if you've noticed, there are 4 formats of orders - most of the dinosaur FAs have followed one, birds another, while mammals (especially carnivora) have another few, and plants and fungi different again. The fun starts as there are more and more articles converging. I went for description as a heading with birds (rather than identification) as other bio critter articles wouldn't use the latter but would the former. The biggest benefit for using scientific names is where common names are applied to different critters in different countries. I have only been editing since May '06 so the debate seemed to be set in stone before I came on the scene. I note that some other languages use scientific names though. Maybe worth revisiting...I'll post something on the MOS.
PS: This is a nice template -Template:Convert - for metric and imperial measurements. Another thing, I have an ancient Greek lexicon and Latin dictionary for looking up meanings. Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 03:22, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Right around the time you joined, I had a go at arguing in favor of scientific name titles in front of the WP:TOL crowd. It was an impassioned, but unfortunately hopeless attempt. Sure, I few people came to my defense, but resistance to this idea seems firmly entrenched. Opponents ranged from some rather basic types -- "NO!!" -- to some more intelligent responses, usually arguing that scientific names are confusing and redirects for them are just as effective. I was outnumbered.
My second attempt at getting scientific names accepted as the standard for article titles was not at WP. By the end of 2006 I was so fed up with attitudes here that I tried working at Citizendium for a while. CZ is supposed to be like WP, except it's not open to everyone, it's peer-review and decisions are not made by consensus. It was conceived by and is run by Larry Sanger. Before joining, the first thing I asked on their forum was whether they planned to use scientific name titles for their natural history articles. One guy said there would be no need for that since redirects would work just fine, but then Larry himself answered and said he would leave that up to the biology workgroup. I decided that was a promising response and started replicating my work from WP (about 100 Viperinae articles) before building on it (that's when and where I created my first categories for common name and taxonomic synonym redirects). At the same time, though, I continued to press the issue of scientific names in the forums, here. Then Larry also got involved and, just when most of the biology workgroup seemed to be in favor of the idea, he put an end to it. Sure, he went back on his word, but I guess he figured this issue was just too important. He may be real smart, but unfortunately he's just not a biologist and has very little idea what we're up against (actually, there is even disagreement among biologists on the right approach). Anyway, you'll want to read all that was said there before you take this to WP:MOS or WP:TOL (I think the latter is the more appropriate for this issue). In the mean time, I've also been busy collecting more arguments in favor of scientific names; you may recognize a few from the CZ forum debate.
After the CZ experience, my feeling is that any debate in the WP:TOL forum is likely to fail for some time to come. It's not that we don't have the right arguments; it's just that most people -- even highly intelligent people -- don't understand the problem. The botany people succeeded in getting scientific names accepted for their article titles because they could demonstrate that they were in trouble and had no better choice. Unfortunately, the problem has never been as clear with the zoology articles, so I fear that we're just going to have to wait for the problem here to become more pronounced before this crowd can be trusted to come to the same conclusion.
In the mean time, you see grass-roots resistance almost everywhere. I've created whole sections of scientific name articles, but I'm inspired by countless others. It's ironic, though, to think that this may be counter-productive, as we may actually need for things to get worse before they can become better. --Jwinius (talk) 15:15, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Casliber, Did you notice the above comment? I'd be interested in your thoughts on the matter. --Jwinius (talk) 13:00, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, be interesting to see how it unfolds as more invertebrates and fish are added, and critters without common names. I haven't had time to look too deeply into it but I'll take your word that it would be likely to fail at present, in which case waiting a year or so is prudent. Also the volume of comment generated by a much simpler issue as the capitalisation of mammal names (in multiple locations), requires more time than I have to read. I do this to relax in my (limited) spare time. If I don't find it relaxing then my enthusiasm wanes considerably, funnily enough. The whole CZ thing is another issue entirely, as I have doubts it will make much in the way of inroads to WP, and most experts I know (botanists, mycologists and psychiatrists I suppose are the ones I come into contact with the most) are extremely busy and have little time to spare for such endeavours - I was chuffed that EOL used my lead from Amanita phalloides on their page (heee hee hee). Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 20:23, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'd put that a little differently: It'll be interesting to see how things unfold when it becomes clear that the majority of WP's zoology articles have scientific name titles even though there are good common names available for most of them. It would be nice, but I don't think that we're that far along just yet.
For sure it will be a monumental debate. I participated in the capitalization debate because I thought it was necessary. Not only is it technically incorrect to capitalize common names for animals in English (as opposed to German), but all of the articles I've worked on for the past two years already listed common names in lower case (just like in the books I get them from). Was it relaxing? Not always, but I sure was relieved when my side came out on top! :-)
Obviously, CZ is not WP, but the debate surrounding the use of scientific vs. common names is the same over there as it is over here. Once it starts up over here again, we'll stand a better chance of succeeding if we're more familiar with all the arguments. If it's important to you, be prepared! --Jwinius (talk) 13:52, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Bradley D. Simon
Thank you for your positive reaction to this article, it is much appreciated. I also thank you for the time you took to review it. 66.43.90.186 (talk) 19:47, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 19:49, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You're everywhere
I was just about to post something to Wikiproject Dinosaurs, and I see your name plastered all over the place. I see you at Wikiproject Medicine and medical articles. And of course, there's your annoying fetish with respect to fungi. What else do you do? I heard a rumor that you were a physician too? You have too much going on. :) OrangeMarlinTalk• Contributions 22:36, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, I am a psychiatrist, hence I am somewhat rusty on some infratentorial aspects of medicine...Its saturday morning here with all its concomitant chore-running etc. headless chook day as I'd call it in Oz vernacular. Saw the stuff about Petey thoughCheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 23:28, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No and I am baffled. I meant to see if I had the latest version of Adobe and try again. I will let you know. Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 03:08, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Varicella
If a certain tendentious, POV-pushing, unreasonable, uneducated, and unacceptable editor gets going on these three varicella related articles, I will just scream and read every single fungus article around. Please keep HER away. She scares away a lot of good editors and a few good copyeditors. Please please help. If you do, I'll even eat a mushroom. OrangeMarlinTalk• Contributions 03:34, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
RPG material
You mentioned RPG material on WP:AN. Was this Dungeons and Dragons RPG? If so please read User:J Milburn summary on the thread you commented on. -- Catchi? 19:39, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have read it. I am not sure what you are getting at. Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 19:41, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh he was talking about how he would be missed at WikiProject Dungeons & Dragons. Then User:BOZ stated a disagreement. I thought you'd endorse one or the other. I do not have the slightest clue how helpful or unhelpful Jack Merridew had been to Dungeons & Dragons wikiproject. -- Catchi? 20:57, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
From a personal perspective, I'd say unhelpful, as my criteria for keeping material is a lot more lenient WRT sourcing (and I also believe there is more material that people can't access online and so won't acknowledge). However, it did get me to go and reference material which is a good thing. I have been one of the keepers in the trench warfare of AfD. Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 21:01, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Medical Wikiproject
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Thanks, Cas. I'm going over the article now. I remember reading Tony's guide a long time ago; like all things, however, its recommendations have slipped my mind. Thanks very much for the copyedit, by the way. Geuiwogbil (Talk) 20:29, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This is what I've done so far: [8]. Is it looking better? Worse? Geuiwogbil (Talk) 21:31, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I started last night. I really need to finish Don Tallon first however, but my collosal ignorance of this topic has led me to need to scatter hidden messages throughout whenever I can't fix things myself. --Dweller (talk) 09:44, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The taxobox edit threw me. Thanks for making a start. Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 09:55, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I consolidated, reorganized, and rearranged a few paras...but had to stop because I think I was going too far. Let me know your thoughts and thanks again for all your helpful input!--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 03:37, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That looks fine. Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 08:23, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, you may not know me at the moment, I'm a rollbacker, and I watch AIV quite a fair bit. I recently made the new AIV templates, . Anyway, I noticed that you indef blocked the above users, but added the {{blocked}} template, instead of the {{vo}} template. I changed one of them, as, the {{blocked}} template states that "You have been temporarily blocked from editing Wikipedia as a result of your disruptive edits.". as they were indef blocked, that template may be confusing to them. I changed the template on User talk:Playerhaternumberone, but I thought I should ask you first before I do the other one, just in case you feel I'm acting inappropriately. I added a concise edit summary here, but, if you feel I was out of line, please let me know. Cheers, Steve Crossin(talk to me) 10:03, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for that. I was feeling rather tired and not hunting around for a more precise template. I'll have a look and feel free to do hte other. Cheers, Casliber (talk· contribs) 10:05, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Doing... Sure, I'l do it now. Steve Crossin(talk to me) 10:16, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply] Done No problem. Gives me some experience for when I eventually become a mopper. Well, I'm mopping up after the moppers. Maybe I'm using a cloth instead? ;) I'll keep a look out on AIV. Steve Crossin(talk to me) 10:18, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Blue Iguana
Thank you for your reviews and kind words on my talk page! You really helped me out on that one!--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 04:30, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Lunch
Today the Endurance restaurant will be serving Blubber a-la-Emperor in a Husky jus. (At least I resisted putting it in the article). Yomanganitalk 15:23, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]