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I'm open-minded on this matter and would value your insight. Thanks –[[User:Dlthewave|dlthewave]] [[User_talk:Dlthewave|☎]] 00:07, 27 May 2018 (UTC) |
I'm open-minded on this matter and would value your insight. Thanks –[[User:Dlthewave|dlthewave]] [[User_talk:Dlthewave|☎]] 00:07, 27 May 2018 (UTC) |
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:WP:EVADE applies to edits by the blocked user to pages ''other than'' their Talk page. And even there I would be careful of doing a "blanket revert", particularly with a sock like this one who made about 500 edits - many to controversial pages and to noticeboards - before they were blocked. The Talk page comments were an admission of sock puppetry. There's nothing wrong with that; indeed, it is welcome. The refactoring of their comment (to make it "nicer") was also okay because no one had responded to it.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23#top|talk]]) 00:13, 27 May 2018 (UTC) |
:WP:EVADE applies to edits by the blocked user to pages ''other than'' their Talk page. And even there I would be careful of doing a "blanket revert", particularly with a sock like this one who made about 500 edits - many to controversial pages and to noticeboards - before they were blocked. The Talk page comments were an admission of sock puppetry. There's nothing wrong with that; indeed, it is welcome. The refactoring of their comment (to make it "nicer") was also okay because no one had responded to it.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23#top|talk]]) 00:13, 27 May 2018 (UTC) |
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== Merge of sockpuppet investigations == |
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You unconclusively investigated [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Gatongakinsella/Archive]] at my request. I posted the same message on [[Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Upwork_account]] and {{u|SmartSE}} told me about [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mamadoutadioukone]], which is the same person. Should I merge the two pages? [[User:Un historien|Un historien]] ([[User talk:Un historien|talk]]) 17:15, 28 May 2018 (UTC) |
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Stalking
Not sure if you have seen the attacks on user:Philip Cross, but I just blocked theantiphilipcross (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) as a harassment-only throwaway. I am pretty sure nobody would be stupid enbough to register that account on the same computer they normally use to edit, but given the profile of these attacks off-wiki you may consider it worth checking if there are sleepers. I'm not filing an SPI because it would be rejected as a fishing expedition, this is harassment more than socking I think. Feel free ot ignore if you think I am being silly. Guy (Help!) 21:04, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Added their pages to my watchlist. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:19, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
- Not stupid enough.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:13, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Alleged Admin socking
Do we normally open cases or mail Arbcom ? Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:34, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
- E-mail ArbCom.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:35, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for your prompt response ,I have emailed you and the Functionaries team and Arbcom .Please let me know if you want any more information and has the Functionaries team got may email.Thanks.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 11:36, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
Poly Bridge
Do you think you could recreate Poly Bridge or at least send me the refidea list that was on Talk:Poly Bridge? I understand the point of G5 but we shouldn't let socking users get in the way of serving readers. I had seen the talkpage refidea list and I know for certain there were more than enough SIGCOV in RSes to pass WP:GNG. Thanks! :) Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 21:22, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
Omnideck 6
This article seems to have had history dating back to 2015, was the G5 a mistake? I can't view deleted revisions currently past the histmerge logs but archived versions of the article show refs with 2015 accessdates and so on. Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 07:50, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
- G5 was not a mistake.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:12, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
- What would be the next step to request that this be restored? Neither WP:REFUND nor WP:DRV seem appropriate but I still think that allowing G5 to get in the way of non-disruptive content is working against the purpose of the encyclopedia and constitutes a disservice to readers. Please let me know what can be done. I'm more than happy to recreate it under my own name with a summary note that attribution can be found in deleted revisions to satisfy WP:PATT. Thanks for your help! :) Ben · Salvidrim! ✉ 03:12, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
CU
If I open a SPI, can CU compare a currently active account with one that was blocked on March 13 or the blocked account might be stale? Ktrimi991 (talk) 23:29, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
- It depends on when the account last edited, not when it was blocked. If it edited on March 13, it would not be stale.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:31, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
Deathgarden
Hi Bbb23,
You recently deleted Deathgarden, as it was created by Personale (talk · contribs), per WP:G5. Is there a possibility that you can restore the article? It was requested to be created at WT:VG#Deathgarden, and was endorsed by @Sergecross73:. Thanks, and kind regards. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 13:30, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
- The article wasn't in that great of shape, but when asked about the plausibility of an at the Wikiproject, I did a search and found a number of reliable sources discussing it in detail, so I do believe a notable article could be built on the subject. The cleanup tags on the article were warranted, but the notability ones weren't really. If Soetermans is willing to clean it up, I think it'd be worth restoring, at the very least to the draftspace, in my opinion. Sergecross73 msg me 13:50, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Sergecross73: Please do whatever you wish with the deleted article. I'm not happy restoring the work of this sockmaster and would prefer not to do any additional restoration. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:01, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
- I'm generally not a fan restoring stuff like this either, and would have likely done the same thing were I you in this case, but if someone's mostly interested in using it as a base for a big reworking, I'd be open to that. I'll work it out with Soetermans. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 14:19, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Bbb23 and @Sergecross73, sorry to have wasted your time, Sergecross73 pointed out that it wasn't in particularly good shape. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 14:53, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
- I'm generally not a fan restoring stuff like this either, and would have likely done the same thing were I you in this case, but if someone's mostly interested in using it as a base for a big reworking, I'd be open to that. I'll work it out with Soetermans. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 14:19, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Sergecross73: Please do whatever you wish with the deleted article. I'm not happy restoring the work of this sockmaster and would prefer not to do any additional restoration. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:01, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
Puzzled
Howdy. I was having a productive discussion with User talk:Leftwinguy92, who I'd observed had been making largely productive and largely useful contributions to en.wikipedia since Feb 2018, when somewhat unexpectedly he was blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of the blocked user, Torygreen84. Now I sympathise that socks are a pain in the arse and pathalogical liars, but I've been an editor for over 10 years, and this guy doesn't seem to fit the mould. Maybe he's a really good liar, but maybe he isn't. Can you please explain, on User talk:Leftwinguy92, why you are so sure he's a sock? Thanks in advance, Pdfpdf (talk) 14:30, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
- I'm surprised Leftwinguy92 doesn't have more sock puppets. I've seen that editor make many edits on race related articles, and there is no doubt(to me) that they are affiliated with a white supremacist group. Probably a Metapedia editor, definitely active on various other alt-right venues(gab,4chan). In any case, the account was confirmed to be a sock. Dave Dial (talk) 14:39, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
Names- Thank you
Dear Bbb23, Yngvadottir, Drmies, thank you a lot for your efforts and time. It has been noticed that recently, the user ColdHardTruth in which its account was created two days ago, and had only edited Majid Rafizadeh, making widespread changes to the biography of this living person which appear to be detrimnetal and negative to this living person (some examples are provided below). ( It is worth noting that the page was previously -almost a year ago- edited and sourced thoroughly by experienced Wikipedia editors and has been confirmed and untouched for almost year until ColdHardTruth began editing two days ago.)
Some of ColdHardTrutg changes include: adding phrases such as "self-proclaimed" scholar to the page Majid Rafizadeh. Some may disagree with the views of the this living person (Majid Rafizadeh), but as you experienced and respected Wiki editors have taught us, one should be civilized and objective on Wikipedia. The subject is a scholar at Harvard University (https://scholar.harvard.edu/majidrafizadeh), have briefed in the US congress, and is invited on national and national international outlets such as CNN. Disagreements in views should not lead other users to be disaggreable towards the person.
Secondly, there are several Majid Rafizadeh in the US. The user ColdHardTruth has been deleting information about this person, deleting Harvard, and adding a University of South Florida's affiliation which belongs to other Majid Rafizadeh. No proof has been provided that this person is from University of South Florida (except for a text with same name) . But it is verifiable (at least through a picture, date of birth, etc) that the living person is from Harvard University and he has been giving interviews from Harvard Kennedy School (such as https://www.youtube.com/Pe-Y6ok_l5M)which is only used for Harvard employees . The wiki page of this living person has always had his Harvard University work (please check history) till HardColdTruth began changing it in two days ago. In addition within the international and scholarly community, it is a well known fact that this Majid Rafizadeh is from Harvard and different from other Majid Rafizadehs including the one from Florida.
Again, your efforts are highly appreciated. It will be appreciated if you can restore the page back to what it has been for almost a year and back to the time before the HardColdtruth began editing and deleting many information and sources, two days ago, while adding unverifiable information. If you are OK with that, I can do this task as well be verifying everything and fully respecting your amazing brilliant work.
Thank you Mediaoutlets (talk) 21:47, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
- Bbb, I wonder why this user wasn't given a username block the first time they showed up. Drmies (talk) 01:13, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
- Way I see it, this is the only "source" in the article--and it's nothing but a link to a book "published" by Ketab.com, which is an Iranian bookstore, making me think that this is self-published; nor is it clear at all how this book about drama and juvenile non-fiction offers us a biography of the subject of the article. Drmies (talk) 01:25, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Flerte Fatal
Looks like the fabulist may be back on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Victorrendan 173.175.217.135 (talk) 02:39, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
- "fabulist"? Now there's a great word I don't think I've ever seen on my Talk page.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:14, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
RKM sock farm
Hello Bbb23, I know we can't apply G5 if the creator isn't blocked but there are enough behaviour which indicates this user is none other than RKM who is now underway to recover their deleted article such as Tanisha Singh. It will be great if you can please take a look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rishi Kumar Maurya and compare the deleted version of Tanisha Singh with the latest version which looks exactly same to me as much as I remember. Thank you GSS (talk|c|em) 17:01, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
IP edits on You Raise Me Up
Someone (or some users) repeatedly tried to change genres, i.e. replacing sourced info with unsourced info. The latest edit is this example. 71.14.20.217 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) is not the only IP; other IPs are 68.190.56.143 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), 71.91.51.102 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), and 63.92.231.41 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). I asked two IPs to discuss the genres at Talk:You Raise Me Up, but neither have done so. Moreover, a few IPs come from the same location: Albertville, Alabama (according to one website). I wonder whether you can look into this please. Thanks. George Ho (talk) 21:40, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not sure why you're bringing this to me, but, regardless, I don't see anything special that needs doing.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:47, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Deleting
Hello Bbb23, This is the subject of the page Majid Rafizadeh. I am not sure who and how to reach to the appropriate person for my serious concern. Based on the following from Wikipedia site, I have read that "Biographies of living persons, where the subject is of marginal notability, may be deleted by any administrator if the subject of the biography requests deletion" and "Where the subject of a BLP has requested deletion, the deletion policy says: "Discussions concerning biographical articles of relatively unknown, non-public figures, where the subject has requested deletion and there is no rough consensus, may be closed as delete." It also adds that "the BLP may be speedy deleted". The page is also subjected to excessive socket puppetry. As a result, I am writing to request if possible please, the deletion of the page through the speedy process. If you'd like to confirm that I am who I am please feel free to call me or email me. http://iaccouncil.org/contact/ Mr198013 (talk) 03:15, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Mr198013: Assuming you are Rafizadeh, what about the article is accurate and what isn't? Do you live in Washington, D.C.? What about the articles on you on other wiki projects? Do you want those deleted as well?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:21, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Bbb23, I truly appreciate your swift response above. With respect to your questions, most of the information in the article are not accurate. Many people add their personal opinion. Regarding the other projects, I honestly have not read them meticulously to commentate appropriately. Please feel free to contact me if you desire. I realized that the Wikipedia policy may necessitate confirmation: "Subjects may approach any admin to request that their biography be deleted. Admins should take reasonable steps to satisfy themselves that they are dealing with the correct person by, for example, telephoning the subject at work, or by making sure that the subject's correspondence does not rely on webmail." Regrading your other question, my life partner has a sensitive position at the Superior Court, as result it would pose a threat and high risk to our lives to disclose our permanent residence. Currently as I am writing, I am traveling for an emergency and I am not in DC. I would sincerely appreciate it if you or anyone who is in charge, would follow up on my request for the speedy deletion. In addition, it seems that there exists a general consensus that the page does not meet the requirement and that it should be deleted. Your endeavors are appreciated. Thanks Bbb23 Mr198013 (talk) 05:13, 26 May 2018 (UTC)Mr198013 (talk) 05:14, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
Block evasion by Patricia CV
Hi Bbb23, messaging you here because Ad Orientem is on vacation and he can't block editors evading their block. Would you be able to do a check on Amber Silver as being a sock of Patricia CV? I'm almost certain they are. Frequenting the same topics and speaks exactly the same. Thanks. Ss112 15:33, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Looks like MusicalGenius2 is MrWriter245
Hi Bbb23. I've been doing some digging after "MusicalGenius2" accused me of being a sockpuppet of "Bardigang" and it appears sockpuppets of MrWriter245 liked to edit topics related to Bratz and RuPaul's Drag Race. Well, lo and behold, those are two topics MusicalGenius2 has been editing. I believe if you did a quick CheckUser on them, you'd find they are the same as MrWriter245. Their report was probably just a case of misdirection by accusing another. Ss112 12:27, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
- They shouldn't do it at their own case; it's kind of a giveaway. Not to mention the behavior. Gone.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:28, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
Talk page of blocked user
I reverted two of Mr. Daniel Plainview's edits [1] [2] which were made after the user was blocked for sockpuppetry. I'm not sure if it's appropriate to do a blanket revert of all of a sock's edits, but I would consider the post-block talk page comment to be a clear case of WP:EVADE. I'm open-minded on this matter and would value your insight. Thanks –dlthewave ☎ 00:07, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
- WP:EVADE applies to edits by the blocked user to pages other than their Talk page. And even there I would be careful of doing a "blanket revert", particularly with a sock like this one who made about 500 edits - many to controversial pages and to noticeboards - before they were blocked. The Talk page comments were an admission of sock puppetry. There's nothing wrong with that; indeed, it is welcome. The refactoring of their comment (to make it "nicer") was also okay because no one had responded to it.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:13, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
Merge of sockpuppet investigations
Hi Bbb23,
You unconclusively investigated Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Gatongakinsella/Archive at my request. I posted the same message on Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Upwork_account and SmartSE told me about Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mamadoutadioukone, which is the same person. Should I merge the two pages? Un historien (talk) 17:15, 28 May 2018 (UTC)