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Following the indef you gave and {{u|Bishonen}}'s page block, a brand new user has just turned up making the same arguments. Seems [[WP:DUCK]] to me, but do I need to do an SPI? [[User:DeCausa|DeCausa]] ([[User talk:DeCausa|talk]]) 20:27, 5 April 2023 (UTC) |
Following the indef you gave and {{u|Bishonen}}'s page block, a brand new user has just turned up making the same arguments. Seems [[WP:DUCK]] to me, but do I need to do an SPI? [[User:DeCausa|DeCausa]] ([[User talk:DeCausa|talk]]) 20:27, 5 April 2023 (UTC) |
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topic: Alexander F. Harmer
Your statement "There he married Felicidad Abadie, settling in the Abadie family residence in Felicidad's native Santa Barbara, which became an artists' colony" needs revision. It's a run on with three distinct ideas. Did Alex move with the family or just occupy the house? Did you fail to previously state where Alexander was born and thought you should just slap it in there? I hope you're able to correct this and choose to do so. In the meantime, I'll be keeping an eye on you. 67.1.117.212 (talk) 13:12, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- I responded to your earlier, much snarkier complaint on your talkpage. I agree, it's in rough shape, as I'm working over and creating articles related to Harry Gesner, whose own article was deplorable and is still rough. Wikipedia's representation of the visual arts is consistently weak, and we have to stick to sources.
- If you do any more Jew-tagging, though, you'll be blocked. Acroterion (talk) 17:12, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
Wp:Architecure help
Hello, I’m the IP you responded to on mjRoots’ talk page. I’m attempting to add an architecture section to the page Lee Hall Depot, because its design is significant (many train station pages have this sort of section). It’s design was a standardized and prefabricated one used by the C&O Railroad on all Freight Stations and Cargo Houses for a period of time. I’ve made a start, but it’s small. I’m looking to expand it quite a bit, and while I can do research fairly easily, I’m not sure, how I would, write it out, and thought that someone with more experience would be helpful at achieving this. Thank you for your time and help, ˜˜˜˜ 108.48.97.70 (talk) 21:45, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'll track down the National Register nomination form, which should have a citeable and condensable descriptive summary. Acroterion (talk) 21:48, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks!
Hi; so something I should mention is that I edit from a phone, and because of that I can respond to edit messages after I send them. Thanks for trying to find that nomination, talk to you soon! ˜˜˜˜ 108.48.97.70 (talk) 17:57, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'll give it a go when I have a few moments - Real Life has thrown a few family emergencies my way.Acroterion (talk) 22:16, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
- I've made a start and done some of the editing and referencing that's hard to do on a phone. The NRHP nomination is the go-to document for history and description up to 2009. Obviously anything after that would have to be sourced elsewhere. Acroterion (talk) 02:18, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
Hi! How do I determine what is important for an architecture section
I’m finding that a lot of the stuff in the “Architectural history” section of the PDF you sent me is rather minor, but also seems important, like types of trim, an on-site well, and lighting fixtures. How do I determine what goes in and what doesn’t? And what goes into other sections? 108.48.97.70 (talk) 00:25, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- In my view a lot of the descriptions are verbal detail better conveyed by pictures, but it's something of a convention in NRHP docs to turn the descriptions into hyper technical jargon. Unless it's crucial or a defining feature, I tend to avoid excessive descriptions of window types, detailing, etc. That's just me, though I was planning to come back and expand it a little more. That particular example isn't a very good account of the architectural design. I don't want to stray too far into my own interpretation, but I was going to sit with pictures and try to make it a little more intelligible to general readership. Acroterion (talk) 00:29, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- As far as other sections go, there is a good bit of background and history in the nom. It is confusingly arranged, again by convention, with continuances farther back. I would say it goes into more detail than is warranted for a summary encyclopedia article, but that's why we link the NHRP nom, so somebody who wants to can go ahead and read it to get more detail. Acroterion (talk) 01:01, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
Sorry to bother, but where do these “detail” photos go?
I found a photo detailing several parts of the buildings design (overhangs, support brackets, windows, etc. Now, you said I should use images instead of describing small features with text. But where would such an image go in the architecture section? Link to photo: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lee_Hall_Station_(15883700568).jpg 108.48.97.70 (talk) 16:17, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- I guess my point is that the NRHP nominations contain a level of detail that isn't really needed for an encyclopedia article, and they the nominations rely on text to convey something better done via drawings and photos. I didn't mean that the encyclopedia article would use detail pictures (though it could if they're particularly significant). Acroterion (talk) 01:28, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Hi Acroterion, can you block and rev/delete the WP:BLP violations in several recent edits and summaries? ANI is protected, so I can't report there. Thanks, 2601:19E:4180:6D50:0:0:0:F5BD (talk) 03:32, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- Spencer, thank you. Though not as egregious, several previous edits in the last week may also merit rev/deletion. 2601:19E:4180:6D50:0:0:0:F5BD (talk) 03:36, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
What to do if user has their IP blocked
I’m not sure. You blocked a related IP here[1] and CUS 27 is asking me about it.[2] I blocked a couple of IPs also. I am not sure about using CU here or if I can do something else. Doug Weller talk 17:39, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- I blocked Gnhrfiufrhe897r4y, an obvious throwaway account, I don't see an IP that I blocked there. Acroterion (talk) 01:31, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Advice needed
See[3] which could be related to a couple of IPs I blocked or your block here.[4] I’m not sure I can use CU or if there’s another option. Thanks Doug Weller talk 17:44, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
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Random note
I've noticed that you tend to block all the random trolls that appear on my talk page. Especially now that I'm around less, I really appreciate it :) TonyBallioni (talk) 04:59, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- You're welcome. You must attract overnight trolls or something - I usually look around between 0700 and 0800 ET for trolls and spambots and block accordingly. Acroterion (talk) 11:37, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Oath Keepers Article
I don’t see how one source can judge a page such as this as “far-right.” There are many people and organizations who should be labeled as “far-left,” but are not labeled as such. I’m not going to name names, but I think if we should be open-minded and not bias one way or the other, I think it would be best to those who read Wikipedia on a daily or recent basis to know the facts and not experience political bias while reading articles. If we disagree, we disagree. I have my beliefs, you may have yours. I just want to make this page better and more understandable. -Conservative Alabamian (talk) 02:35, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- There are multiple sources calling OK far-right, and we don't need to load up the lede with them. That they're there at all in the lede is because people stop reading after the first paragraph and don't read the additional sourced content in the article supporting the summary paragraph (which is normally uncited). The lede covers the cited content in the body of the article. This is a global encyclopedia, and what American conservatives label "far-left" is pretty centrist compared to most of the rest of the world. . And it's "biased," not "bias." Acroterion (talk) 02:45, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Although I disagree with you, I respect your opinion. Thanks. Conservative Alabamian (talk) 02:49, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- May you please explain to me how the "far-left" labeling is considered centrist to the rest of the world? Thanks. -Conservative Alabamian (talk) 03:02, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- The liberal wing of the Democratic party is pretty centrist compared to leftist parties in most of the rest of the world. A number of commentators compared the Obama administration's policies with the policies of the Eisenhower administration. Until we have administrations nationalizing companies and instituting collectivist policies, we're not even to leftist, much less far-leftism, which would be on the extremes of Marxist thought. Sanders is an extremely mild socialist, and that's about as spicy as it gets in U.S. politics. He'd be a middle-of-the-road Labour candidate in the UK. Acroterion (talk) 03:18, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Being from the United States, I have always believed that Sanders was a communist. I didn't really care about what the rest of the world thinks. Do you believe that there is a far-left ideology? -Conservative Alabamian (talk) 03:21, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Sanders is a declared democratic socialist, which is considerably short of Communist. "Being from the United States," (so am I) where politics tends toward the conservative, gives a skewed view of actual leftist radicalism, which is a lot more aggressive than anything seen in the United States. In the 1980s the French Socialist Mitterand administration was in power. It was halfway between the Gaullist Party and the actual French Communist Party, which was closely aligned with the Soviet Union. Mitterrand was considerably to the left of Sanders, and Mitterrand was considerably to the right of the Communists. This is a global encyclopedia, so it presents a worldwide view of political science, rather than the very narrow dose one gets in the U.S. Acroterion (talk) 03:33, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- I understand this is a global encyclopedia. I have a Bachelor's degree in history and want to grow the historical aspect of this encyclopedia. Do you think I am on the right track? -Conservative Alabamian (talk) 03:36, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Not if you think Sanders is a Communist. But I recognize that in many parts of the United States, anybody more liberal than the local Chamber of Commerce is considered some kind of Communist. Acroterion (talk)
- I'm not saying all liberals are communists. I was raised in the Deep South, where we are all about morals and conservatism. I have never denounced anyone's right to believe what they want to believe or vote for who they want to vote for. I'm just saying that I have never experienced anything but the United States, so I guess I am biased. I apologize for what I did on the Oath Keepers page. -Conservative Alabamian (talk) 03:50, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- No need for apology, we're all here to learn something. Acroterion (talk) 12:26, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Okay, great. Thank you. How can I join the WikiProject Military History? Thanks in advance. -Conservative Alabamian (talk) 14:16, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- No need for apology, we're all here to learn something. Acroterion (talk) 12:26, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not saying all liberals are communists. I was raised in the Deep South, where we are all about morals and conservatism. I have never denounced anyone's right to believe what they want to believe or vote for who they want to vote for. I'm just saying that I have never experienced anything but the United States, so I guess I am biased. I apologize for what I did on the Oath Keepers page. -Conservative Alabamian (talk) 03:50, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Not if you think Sanders is a Communist. But I recognize that in many parts of the United States, anybody more liberal than the local Chamber of Commerce is considered some kind of Communist. Acroterion (talk)
- I understand this is a global encyclopedia. I have a Bachelor's degree in history and want to grow the historical aspect of this encyclopedia. Do you think I am on the right track? -Conservative Alabamian (talk) 03:36, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Sanders is a declared democratic socialist, which is considerably short of Communist. "Being from the United States," (so am I) where politics tends toward the conservative, gives a skewed view of actual leftist radicalism, which is a lot more aggressive than anything seen in the United States. In the 1980s the French Socialist Mitterand administration was in power. It was halfway between the Gaullist Party and the actual French Communist Party, which was closely aligned with the Soviet Union. Mitterrand was considerably to the left of Sanders, and Mitterrand was considerably to the right of the Communists. This is a global encyclopedia, so it presents a worldwide view of political science, rather than the very narrow dose one gets in the U.S. Acroterion (talk) 03:33, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Being from the United States, I have always believed that Sanders was a communist. I didn't really care about what the rest of the world thinks. Do you believe that there is a far-left ideology? -Conservative Alabamian (talk) 03:21, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- The liberal wing of the Democratic party is pretty centrist compared to leftist parties in most of the rest of the world. A number of commentators compared the Obama administration's policies with the policies of the Eisenhower administration. Until we have administrations nationalizing companies and instituting collectivist policies, we're not even to leftist, much less far-leftism, which would be on the extremes of Marxist thought. Sanders is an extremely mild socialist, and that's about as spicy as it gets in U.S. politics. He'd be a middle-of-the-road Labour candidate in the UK. Acroterion (talk) 03:18, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- May you please explain to me how the "far-left" labeling is considered centrist to the rest of the world? Thanks. -Conservative Alabamian (talk) 03:02, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- Although I disagree with you, I respect your opinion. Thanks. Conservative Alabamian (talk) 02:49, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
the blitz
the source is the BBC, mistakes happen, they have translated this wrong. Most other dictionaries will translate it as flash. Please believe a German and additionally maybe use this source instead: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Blitz#German https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/blitzkrieg It also says that Blitz can mean flash. To any German this is clear as day that it cannot refer to lightning but to the swiftness of the flash. 2003:F9:8701:DFA0:9982:4D69:CACE:FA79 (talk) 23:58, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- That may be so, but you'll need sources, preferably sources that discuss that specific distinction. Acroterion (talk) 23:59, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
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User Zarvonov/Lee Harvey Oswald vandalism
Seems as though the user Zarvonov has resorted to personal attacks on their talk page following the "allegedly" incident on Lee Harvey Oswald. Liliana (UwU) 01:03, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, they're having a meltdown. I'm going over to ANI now. Acroterion (talk) 01:04, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
Earlier today, an editor (now blocked) threatened my life, 'after' I reverted him at the Montreal Canadiens page. GoodDay (talk) 02:01, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- Probably a trolling Maple Leafs fan. I got off easy, I think, just a lot of cussing. Acroterion (talk) 02:05, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
- Well, he didn't last a full day. GoodDay (talk) 00:54, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- If he was on such a hair trigger that Skyring set him off, we're better off without him. Six years of steady cycling updates, and then ... snap. Acroterion (talk) 01:11, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Well, he didn't last a full day. GoodDay (talk) 00:54, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
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Hi Acroterion - Did you mean to only block this user for 31 hours? I would imagine that you'd block this user indefinitely per their self-admission on ANI... Let me know; I just wanted to message you in case this may have been accidental. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:49, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I switched reasons and Twinkle reset on me. I wish it wouldn't behave that way. Now indef. Acroterion (talk) 19:52, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
Good Faith
With regards to a recently closed AN thread, where the user in question said I usually update economic data … i want to reign as ECP… where I can do that
I thought I’m going to assume you mean “regain” rather than “reign” for the moment.
was commendably good faith given the rest of their behaviour! Nosebagbear (talk) 13:46, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
- I thought about that for a little while, because my first reading was less favorable, but it appeared to me that this was not a person whose first language is English,so I ought to give the benefit of the doubt, at least as far as the "reign.". On reviewing some of my own typos, I sometimes need the same grace. There was no way anybody was going to reinstate ECP for them, so the AGF cost little. Acroterion (talk) 16:55, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
Edit warring on the Tunisia football article
Hello, I edited the article on the Tunisian football team. The entire article was written like a non-native English speaker, and I fixed most of the grammar issues and removed junk that's not needed in the article. For example, the article's history section listed the score on every single game while every other national football team's article doesn't have that junk. There is this user with an Arabic username and they keep reverting my edits to theirs, which would require copyediting and many maintenance tags, such as too lengthy, grammar, and more. Could you please take care of this user? They've also written multiple articles that have been deleted. The World Cup is coming up (Tunisia made it) and I want readers to see an article that's been written properly, not by a non-native English speaker. Nearly but not perfect (talk) 18:24, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- They've reverted three times and haven't reverted since you warned them.I'll keep an eye on the article.Acroterion (talk) 18:55, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- The Arabic user has came back; while they didn't really revert what I did, they reinstated a lot of the excessive content. The grammar improved but it still is not completely written in an encyclopedic style. I have reverted to my version for now. What should happen next? Nearly but not perfect (talk) 18:22, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
DB Cooper
Hi: Is anyone monitoring the DB Cooper page? There have been many changes in the past few weeks and it does not look like any admins are aware. KatDales (talk) 13:36, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Is something going on that requires administrator action? Acroterion (talk) 16:45, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
Reverted edit
Hi this is Akamaikai, whose edit you reverted on Boysen Dam, Wyoming.
The reason I added a climate section is because I like to add climate data to places where it exists so that people can see it and understand the climate of a particular area. NOAA has climate data on it and I thought it would be OK to add, if have any suggestions of a nearby town where I could put the climate data it would be greatly appreciated.
Best regards,
-Akamaikai Akamaikai (talk) 23:42, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- I understand, and I think it's fine to add the data to populated places, or places like Mount Washington that are noted for weather. I've been to to Boysen Dam, and I understand why they have a weather station there - the weather in Thermopolis, the nearest populated place, is often quite different from the weather on the other side of the Owl Creek Mountains. However, putitng a big gaudy climate box into an article that is about a dam, rather than a place, is in my opinion undue weight, and distracts from the article's focus. Acroterion (talk) 23:47, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- So where should I put the data? Akamaikai (talk) 23:58, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia isn't an indiscriminate collection of information, so absent a settlement with the usual settlement data, or some compelling reason to single out the dam as a unique location weather-wise, I don't see any reason for inclusion. Just because information exists, we're not compelled to apply it everywhere we can. If there is sourceable information that describes Boysen Dam as a notable weather location on its own (like, for example, Mount Washington), the best way is to write about that, and then add the data, preferably in collapsible format. The climate boxes are a bit huge. Acroterion (talk) 00:07, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
IP Block
Hey there, just wanted to thank you for removing that inflammatory comment from my talk page.
Also wanted to draw your attention to Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Nameless_User, if you are not already aware. That IP removed the PROD tags on all the articles mentioned in that post. Possible sock I imagine. Skipple ☎ 15:31, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
- I was responding to that report and checking their edits.I was unsurprised to find that they had resorted to personal attacks. Acroterion (talk) 15:38, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
Removal of IP address on History Page
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My name is Tim, and I just wanted to let you know that recently, I accidentally made an edit on a page describing the Motion Picture Rating System page. The edit that I made is changing the location of the columns of Categories IIA and IIB in the row describing the age rating system for Hong Kong. I would like to have my I.P. address, which is located at the top of the website, to be deleted. Please send me back a message when you have time.
https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E9%9B%BB%E5%BD%B1%E5%88%86%E7%B4%9A%E5%88%B6%E5%BA%A6&action=history JigSAW43+ (talk) 05:57, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- I have no administrative permissions on zh, and can't even read Chinese characters. Please contact a zh administrator. Acroterion (talk) 12:13, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Strange psychiatry anon is back
91.129.100.0 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
They’re now posting (pretty transparently) under a different sock IP address with the same grammatical and argument structure over at Talk:Psychiatry, attempting to create a “consensus” in favor of their WP:POLEMIC edits. Bonus: they also say you’re guilty of selective enforcement and should be banned. JK I think @C.Fred is taking care of it — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 11:47, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- It's an obvious sock situation/block evasion by IP hopping. My next step will be to semi-protect Talk:Psychiatry if this continues…and if no other admin does it before I do. —C.Fred (talk) 11:53, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for dealing with them. I also get the impression that they think that everybody who confronts them is the same person. It's a subject that attracts people with odd ideas. Acroterion (talk) 12:11, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Laska666's essays
If you care to go through more of Laska666's edits, you'll find tons of unreferenced POV ramblings and essays in between the poorly paraphrased quotes from actual references.
For example, the last two sentences of this edit at Nam tiến are Laska666's own words. Other parts of that same edit are cited to pages of a book that don't support the content, e.g. page 126 of Sutherland's book does not say anything resembling
[Non-Kinh "ethnic minority" artifacts are] not being blocky parts of the Vietnamese 'mainstream historiography,' even though they had made enormous contributions or direct historical impacts in Vietnam and the Southeast Asia region as a whole.
They add a lot of valuable content, but also often sneak in their own perspective. — MarkH21talk 18:31, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Just made a similar block
{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kevin003009] Doug Weller talk 14:28, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Category:Submerged bridges has been nominated for merging
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Blocked IP
Hey,
I saw you blocked User talk:165.0.127.10 for a week.
Since they edited "Adolf Hitler is a legend" in Hitler's talk page, I believe they should receive an indefinite block under WP:NONAZIS. Also, they've been blocked before Stephanie921 (talk) 20:44, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
- Oh boy. We don't block IPs indefinitely, but I'll look at a longer block. Acroterion (talk) 21:03, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
- I remember this one. In general, for repeat blocks we block for about as long as the disruption has been taking place. This is about what I would set. It's probably a poorly-socialized adolescent, and they'll probably find other things to be horrible about. If not, they'll be blocked for longer. Acroterion (talk) 21:05, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you. And could I ask what policy says IPs aren't blocked indefinitely? I'm not saying ur wrong of course but I've seen IPs indefinitely blocked loads of times, and am curious Stephanie921 (talk) 21:08, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
- They're not supposed to be blocked indefinitely except in rare cases, and I haven't seen one indeffed in a long time. Generally IPs are blocked for three years at most, since the vast majority of IPs are dynamic and will be reassigned in a shorter or longer period, and users can change. This isn't a Telstra IP, but for example, Telstra IPs are notorious for being highly dynamic. I am curious about the "loads of times" you've seen IPs indeffed - it's not supposed to happen except in unusual instances of long-term abuse from a specific stable IP. Acroterion (talk) 21:16, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
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ANI revert explanation
Hi, Acroterion. You reverted my edit on ANI. Let me explain why my edit was correct.
- I made a comment on Nightscream discussion yesterday and then user Protonk replied to my edit about another topic.
- Protonk's reply was reverted by ToBeFree.
- Then Johnuniq reinstated all messages thinking they were okay.
- Then an IP user collapsed Protonk's comments with a provocative message (I warned them at their talk page).
- Arada Ar 196 collapsed all comments including my initial comment which was not removed by ToBeFree with a somewhat contemptous message.
That's why I wanted to change the template headers with a more neutral wording and de-collapse my initial comment. Now clarifying what actually happened, could you please de-revert my edits? Thank you.--Madame Necker (talk) 21:05, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
- You shouldn't be editing any templates or collapse headers in that discussion. Acroterion (talk) 21:11, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
- Okay I won't from now on. Could you please de-revert my edit? Madame Necker (talk) 21:12, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
- I've changed the collapse header a little. Please don't hijack threads like that. Acroterion (talk) 21:14, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for your understanding. Madame Necker (talk) 21:15, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
- I've changed the collapse header a little. Please don't hijack threads like that. Acroterion (talk) 21:14, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
- Okay I won't from now on. Could you please de-revert my edit? Madame Necker (talk) 21:12, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
The IP142.183.21.97 that you blocked for one week from Joan II of Navarre has returned under a different IP(142.183.31.129). I will let you decide what should be done, if anything. --Kansas Bear (talk) 02:37, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, blocked, sitewide this time, and semi-protected. Acroterion (talk) 02:43, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Why do you remove my content
Is is very rude that you come and delete what I have added. I would very much appreciate if you would not do that sir. 2600:1009:B168:436F:341E:654B:9A2D:2766 (talk) 11:40, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
- And what was it that you added? It's flattering for you to think I'm psychic and can understand what you did on a different IP address or account, but I'm afraid I can't tell what you're complaining about. Acroterion (talk) 12:16, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
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Change Name of User
Hi. I created this account so many years ago. Now I want to change the name of my profile from "Cheposo" to Risantana . how can I make a change of name of my account or profile? help please. I hope you can help me with this.
--Cheposo (talk) 13:23, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Changing username is the place to start. Acroterion (talk) 13:49, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
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Discussion at WP:HD § Very Large Picture
You are invited to join the discussion at WP:HD § Very Large Picture. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:13, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- This might be a honest question or it could be a WP:DUCK. Anyway, just letting you know as a courtesy because you removed the image as a copyvio. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:15, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm not sure what to make of that editor, but it's clearly an image that's been scraped from a copyrighted website and represented as own work. Acroterion (talk) 03:16, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
File remame
Hi @Acroterion: I have a file that needs renamed. Could you possibly do it for me please. Thanks. scope_creepTalk 11:11, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- What is it? Is it on Commons? Acroterion (talk) 11:17, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- File:Winterlink Group.png I've put a rename template on it. scope_creepTalk 11:22, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- I’ll take a look at it once I get my day started, feed dogs, etc. Acroterion (talk) 11:31, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- Done. A possibly dumb question, but it's not something that comes up often - are file moves of that kind unavailable to non-admins? On Commons filemover is a specific right that must be granted, but image files on WP are pretty rare, so I haven't encountered the restriction. Acroterion (talk) 12:17, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks Acroterion. I posted that redirect for deletion, as I went around and updated all the article. Thanks. scope_creepTalk 18:47, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- Done. A possibly dumb question, but it's not something that comes up often - are file moves of that kind unavailable to non-admins? On Commons filemover is a specific right that must be granted, but image files on WP are pretty rare, so I haven't encountered the restriction. Acroterion (talk) 12:17, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- I’ll take a look at it once I get my day started, feed dogs, etc. Acroterion (talk) 11:31, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
- File:Winterlink Group.png I've put a rename template on it. scope_creepTalk 11:22, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
"File:Winterlink Group.png" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Correction to previous election announcement
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Theanonymity.de
On the basis of WP:AGF and WP:ROPE, do you have any objections if I lift your block of Theanonymity.de with a limited-duration WP:TOPICBAN? See User talk:Theanonymity.de. -- Yamla (talk) 13:18, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- Personally, I have little faith in a holocaust denier's ability to edit Wikipedia in any respect, but perhaps between strict guardrails they could be given rope. Acroterion (talk) 23:57, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Hot potato
Good luck; they're all yours now!-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:54, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
- I've been watching them, and am chiefly concerned that they not aggravate Doug with that crap. I have no plans to do more than divert their nagging until it reaches a point where I turn off talkpage access, which I think is inevitable. Acroterion (talk) 00:00, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- TP access is gone as predicted. UTRS will probably get it until the UTRS regulars run out of patience. Acroterion (talk) 04:44, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- Over to you Deepfriedokra!-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 16:02, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- Clearly not compatible, so we employ a "three strikes law" over there. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:09, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- Over to you Deepfriedokra!-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 16:02, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
- TP access is gone as predicted. UTRS will probably get it until the UTRS regulars run out of patience. Acroterion (talk) 04:44, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting closing soon
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The Bugle: Issue CXCVIII, September 2022
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Hi Acroterion
Hey Acroterion
Just a quick flag. You helped me a long time ago when my page was vandalized
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murtz_Jaffer
A user named Clourei made some edits to my page which were not accurate so I reverted the page back. Is there a way to flag that they made in accurate edits?
Please notify me if you respond. 142.126.211.244 (talk) 09:02, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- I'll leve them a note asking them to explain why they believe the material (referenced to a 2021 source) is outdated. Acroterion (talk) 12:09, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – October 2022
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- An RfC is open to discuss whether to make Vector 2022 the default skin on desktop.
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Sorry
Sorry, I meant to wikilink The Mote and the Beam on User_talk:Paullong22 but I accidentally removed a bunch of stuff. I'm not sure how that happened. Sorry about that. Andre🚐 01:24, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
- No problem. I am probably wasting my time, but I figured I'd try to shift the editor's thinking a little bit from "I disagree, so it's wrong and I'm removing it dammit" Acroterion (talk) 01:26, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue CXCVIII, October 2022
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2600:6c5d:63f:1e39::/64 still trolling
- 2600:6c5d:63f:1e39::/64 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · block user · block log)
But they're just asking questions, of course. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 01:01, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
- Of course they are. Blocked for longer this time. Acroterion (talk) 01:20, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
Consensus
Then let's discuss this to see if a new consensus can be reached on the talk page of albertan independence (to stay that way or to join another country soon after). Wikipedia according to its values of neutrality shouldn't perpetuate pejorative words that take a negative (or positive) position on any subject, even if the sources do very much so. Is this not right? 96.22.228.193 (talk) 23:16, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- You changed, I disputed it, and we both posted on the talkpage, see WP:BRD. I note that Wikipedia isn't concerned with whether individual editors think something is "pejorative," we say what the sources say. You appear to be injecting your own views intro these topics, and I don't really see how one word is more "pejorative" than the other. The appropriate place for discussion is on the talkpage, not here. Acroterion (talk) 23:38, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- I wrote that here because your talk page said you were busy and to leave a message to make sure you're seeing it, geez. These evil scary separatists that will take this and that if you people don't stay loyal to their benevolant union of equals, unlike those courageous noble freedom fighters from the empire. Definitely not pejorative if it's used for fearmongering, right. 96.22.228.193 (talk) 03:29, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
Revert on Anbumani Ramadoss
Hi, I am seeking clarification as to why my edit, which got reverted by you, on Anbumani Ramadoss, violated WP:BLPCRIME . I just read the article and it has written that we should not include accusations, which have not reached judicial conclusions or resulted in conviction, in the page of non-public figures. Mr. Anbumani is a public figure.I don't know why the rule is applicable to him. Also, I have mentioned only the fact that he was accused and no way implied he was convicted. Please let me know what is the issue. 24thHusbandofDraupathi (talk) 10:40, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
I have included keyword "alleged" in the title of the section and restored the text. I think that should solve the issue?
- Mere arrest without prosecution or conviction is inappropriate emphasis on an accusation that was never pursued. I will remove it, don't put bit back in. Acroterion (talk) 12:46, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
Don't these DS need renewing?
[[User talk:Neuroelectronic#Warning]] Doug Weller talk 15:00, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- Technically they do, since it's company policy, however pointless it appears to be when it's right there in the next section up. Acroterion (talk) 16:38, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- I thought you couldn’t sanction unless they had a recent alert, involved at AE, etc Doug Weller talk 16:47, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- Like I said, it's company policy, so we should probably template them again. I just think it ought to be enough to point up the page,but I can see some DS stickler arguing that it's invalid. Acroterion (talk) 16:52, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- Done. Note that Twinkle said they hadn’t been notified. There are not just sticklers but also editors who hate the system. Doug Weller talk 18:31, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- Like I said, it's company policy, so we should probably template them again. I just think it ought to be enough to point up the page,but I can see some DS stickler arguing that it's invalid. Acroterion (talk) 16:52, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- I thought you couldn’t sanction unless they had a recent alert, involved at AE, etc Doug Weller talk 16:47, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
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Reversion
I noticed this reversion and wondered what your reasoning was. I often add an autobiography welcome even if there is a generic welcome so that there is specific advice not to do so, and so that they have been warned if it comes to a block for persistent self-promotion. It's never been a problem before. I'm obviously missing something, but I'm not sure what, please enlighten me Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:48, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
- No,it was me and fat fingers on a touchscreen, not anything to do with you. Acroterion (talk) 16:27, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – November 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2022).
- The article creation at scale RfC opened on 3 October and will be open until at least 2 November.
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On Marxism-Leninism
Hello.
For a while now you have been editing the page for Marxism-Leninism, adding the term "Authoritarian" repeatedly over and over, and it would be great if you could give your reasoning.
We have read the citations used within the page and within the line.
Communism by Thomas Lansford and Soviet Marxism-Leninism: The Decline of an Ideology by Alfred B. Evans neither corroborate the claim;
We also were unable to find any part of the page's text itself in which comfirms said claim, and, with that, we'd be interested on the provision of a reliable body of work as by wikipedia's standards capable of corroborating said claim.
It would be great if you could come to the talk page for Marxism-Leninism to clarify what led you to the above conclusion.
Thank you for your time. ~ IJamm6I (talk) 18:47, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- No, what I was doing was reverting unexplained drive-by removals with no discussion and the edit summary "typo," which is both inadequate and inaccurate. I have no views on the content, and am content with however the talkpage discussion turns out. Acroterion (talk) 22:04, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry for the late response.
- Yes, it is completely understandable why you took your course of action and i agree it was the right decision in a vaccuum.
- The issue here is that the original change within the page (in this case the classification of authoritarian) was done so without previous concensus or citation by a single individual. IJamm6I (talk) 03:17, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
- You are not entitled to revert until you get your way. Get consensus on the talkpage first. I am not unsympathetic to your argument, but your edits have been disputed and you are obligated to resolve the objections first. Acroterion (talk) 03:21, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
Billy Fiddle
Would you believe it? User:Billy Fiddle has been indeffed as a confirmed sock account though it doesn't say of whom and I can't find anyone on the Crimea history that matches his behaviour. At least i know what to lok out for, but I've got to be honest, the talkpage access was revoked from him and that I feel is a touch on the harsh side. The only one I have dealt with is User:LJstats/User:Prim96 and he (or they) didn't get talkpage access revoked. Still, I won't miss any of them! :) --Coldtrack (talk) 19:47, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- Based on what I see, this is a long-term abuse case across multiple accounts and IPs. Since we're supposed to be circumspect about connecting IPSs and accounts (I'm not a checkuser, but still), I won't go into details, but it's pretty clear that this is an LTA. Acroterion (talk) 19:51, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- I was late by a quarter of an hour to spot that you already added the information to the AN/I thread. I get your point about this being an LTA. His aliases (and by his, I mean that in the generic sense) are likely to be on other Ukraine-related articles and these I look out for routinely purely out of personal interest. If I see anything suspicious, I'll report it but I'll have to treat Billy Fiddle as the sockmaster. Thanks for your help today. --Coldtrack (talk) 19:56, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- I wouldn't draw a great deal of inference from my blocking log. Some things connect, some definitely don't, and some things are complicated. The old statement that checkusers know something you don't stands true. However, I think this one's the LTA known as Evlekis. You could do worse than take a gander at Justice 4 all people. -- zzuuzz (talk) 20:00, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- Very interesting. I can (sort of) see the connection between Justice for All People and Billy Fiddle, namely the former's first two or three edits on the topic of antisemitism in Ukraine, and in particular this propensity for Russia-bashing gone mad, and the accounts have made a similar number of edits since about the same time since beginning of November, but the former has gone off into British army-related subjects which look constructive, but I'm not qualified to remark there. As for Evlekis, I exchanged comments probably more than a year ago with User:Thomas.W and I told him and I'm saying this now that I am certain that these - while being the same as one another - are not this editor who was active from the early days of the project until 2013. Although he's not about for someone to ask him his opinion of the Russia-Ukraine conflict, I see no connection between who he was/is and this other jerk (or two if they are different), I looked at some (indeterminate number) of accounts "confirmed" to be Evlekis as well as those "suspected" to be him and even as a non-CU, I tell you there are anomalies, lots of glaring anomalies. I'll happily share them --Coldtrack (talk) 20:12, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- I had an interesting discussion with - apparently - the real Evlekis recently (here), where I kind of agreed (although there was a lack of hard evidence) that this isn't Evlekis. Which is why I usually say something like 'the LTA known as..'. It's easy for CUs to get mixed up at some point in the chain of confirmation. But we are where we are. -- zzuuzz (talk) 20:21, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- We've got a lot of pretty smart and functional LTAs whose behavior may at times converge, or who may be able to mimic each other. BKFIP, for instance, has a style that is common to a certain kind of LTA like this, who can mostly edit usefully while raining abuse on whomever crosses their path. Others, like HarveyCarter, eventually can't help giving themselves away. Acroterion (talk) 20:27, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- I can't find much of HarveyCarter but I'm gonna have a good look at those (if I can find his sockpuppets). I'll check the other one too to see his MO. Thanks Acroterion. As for the thread included by Zzuzz! WOW! What light that has thrown!!!!! I'll migrate over to your talk page and tell you what I have found odd with this case. Now I need a stiff drink to get over the shock! LOL --Coldtrack (talk) 20:40, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- Very interesting. I can (sort of) see the connection between Justice for All People and Billy Fiddle, namely the former's first two or three edits on the topic of antisemitism in Ukraine, and in particular this propensity for Russia-bashing gone mad, and the accounts have made a similar number of edits since about the same time since beginning of November, but the former has gone off into British army-related subjects which look constructive, but I'm not qualified to remark there. As for Evlekis, I exchanged comments probably more than a year ago with User:Thomas.W and I told him and I'm saying this now that I am certain that these - while being the same as one another - are not this editor who was active from the early days of the project until 2013. Although he's not about for someone to ask him his opinion of the Russia-Ukraine conflict, I see no connection between who he was/is and this other jerk (or two if they are different), I looked at some (indeterminate number) of accounts "confirmed" to be Evlekis as well as those "suspected" to be him and even as a non-CU, I tell you there are anomalies, lots of glaring anomalies. I'll happily share them --Coldtrack (talk) 20:12, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- I wouldn't draw a great deal of inference from my blocking log. Some things connect, some definitely don't, and some things are complicated. The old statement that checkusers know something you don't stands true. However, I think this one's the LTA known as Evlekis. You could do worse than take a gander at Justice 4 all people. -- zzuuzz (talk) 20:00, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- I was late by a quarter of an hour to spot that you already added the information to the AN/I thread. I get your point about this being an LTA. His aliases (and by his, I mean that in the generic sense) are likely to be on other Ukraine-related articles and these I look out for routinely purely out of personal interest. If I see anything suspicious, I'll report it but I'll have to treat Billy Fiddle as the sockmaster. Thanks for your help today. --Coldtrack (talk) 19:56, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- Just a short note: Evlekis's claim about not having socked since 2018 is not true, it is him who is still very active here, and I know that because I have deliberately prodded him a couple of times with comments that only the real Evlekis would react to, and he has reacted exactly as anticipated (i.e. by going ballistic), even as late as just a few days ago (and no I'm not going to post any details about it...). - Tom | Thomas.W talk 22:38, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- Just another short note: in addition to his regular "normal" appearances Evlekis has on a number of occasions impersonated other LTA's, and has over the years also been blocked under other identities, resulting in multiple SPI's under other names being merged into his own report there after a thorough check, including by CU's, have found that it was indeed Evlekis operating under other identities... - Tom | Thomas.W talk 09:34, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Why was I given a warning?
As far as I am concerned, I haven't even edited a page in a while, why was I given a warning? Signed, (talk) 02:30, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
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Kurds
Not questioning your sanction, I’m assuming it’s part of the AP2 sanction? I’m generally confused. I don’t edit in this area nor do I ever plan to, so I’m not sure what this is about Toa Nidhiki05 00:25, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- Well, hell, you ought to question it, since it wasn't meant for you. My apologies, I have too many tabs open. Carry on. Go edit about Kurds and Kurdistan if you want to. Acroterion (talk) 00:29, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
Why did my comments go ignored or missed?
Hello, please review the following carefully as there's a misunderstanding. From my original statement onwards here, I refuted false accusations against me with diffs, which appear to have been missed or ignored. I pointed it out a few more times in subsequent comments, and those seem to have gone ignored too. The historical stalking and direct insults notwithstanding, also demonstrated, which would have resulted in a case of WP:BOOMERANG (why was that ignored?), the accusations made in the first place were false. My last comment among others makes that clear.[6]
Of the just couple accusations, I'll point one out again. The accusation Saucysalsa30 made additional unsourced claims that Galbraith acted as a "controversial politician making a claim and attempting legislative action on something that wasn't true to push his long-running political agenda that he would eventually and profoundly benefit from financially"
is unfounded. I include sources in my Talk page comments[7][8], even if I don't often see this on Talk pages, but this particular part is not unsourced anyways. There is a whole well-sourced section on the article about Galbraith's financial gains and conflict of interest since 2009. I did not say or introduce anything new. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Galbraith#Oil_controversy I did not violate BLP nor was there anything unsourced, and this was on a Talk page. I made that clear on the Talk page[9]: "This has already been talked about in a couple other Talk sections too and has been in the article and sourced since the 2000s."
There are two lengthy Talk page sections about it, too.[10][11] If the accuser had bothered to read the article and Talk page after stalking me to the page, instead of immediately casting aspersions, this would not be in question in the first place.
My edits on the article, too, had nothing to do with Galbraith's oil controversy either, making the accusation even more bizarre. To put it in simple terms, this accusation is as absurd as an editor stating on the Talk page for Adolf Hitler that he was involved in the Holocaust, and, assuming hypothetically he was alive and fell under BLP, another editor false accusing that the first is violating BLP despite a whole article section on the precise topic and relevant Talk page sections on that. Then editor 1 gets in trouble.
Relevant to this topic area, an editor calling someone an ISIS sympathizer[12] got a free pass, with the admin explanation: "As for the ISIS/PKK issue, I didn't understand the context and I can see it's not black and white. You should obviously not be calling anyone a terrorist sympathizer, that's a personal attack. However I do acknowledge that the issue is complex; the PKK is considered to be a terrorist organization by some and heroes by others."
Likewise, it looks like there's context you may have missed in this situation too as the above diffs and explanation demonstrate, and I didn't insult anyone either.
For now, I've proven the primary accusation against me to be completely unfounded, as I'd done along with the others on the AE section. We can go through the other couple false/misrepresented accusations one-by-one too. Given this, what did I do wrong regarding this particular accusation given this was a proven false accusation? I understand you deal with a lot of varied, complicated situations daily so I can only assume this mistake was made in good faith. Thank you. Saucysalsa30 (talk) 02:28, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- I read your comments. You are so focused on a feud with other editors that you failed to address the substance of the complaint, which concerned your conduct. Since there is ample evidence of your disruptive conduct in the topic where sanctions are applicable, and since your behavior in the arbitration request mirrored the complaint, sanctions are warranted. Wikipedia isn't a battleground. Simply put, your conduct has been tendentious to the point of disruption. Acroterion (talk) 02:35, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
"that you failed to address the substance of the complaint, which concerned your conduct"
- This unfortunately makes it clear my comments were not read, because I absolutely addressed the accusations against me like I am here. Are you saying I did not do that? Why was that ignored? There isn't "ample" evidence of my "disruptive" conduct except false accusations like above considering practically all of it was refuted, and I provided plenty to the contrary too.
- Can you explain, now that it's clear that false accusations were made against me like the primary one demonstrated above as completely unfounded, how the above refuted false accusation counts against me? Saucysalsa30 (talk) 02:56, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- Read WP:TE and WP:IDHT, because that's what you were doing, what you did at AE, and what you're doing now. Acroterion (talk) 02:57, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- Right now, what I'm doing is demonstrating you took an action based on a mistake or possibly partiality, and that, as you admit, you missed my refutations of false accusations in the complaint against me. Had you not missed that, then it would have been a no action or boomerang case. That is, an action was made on the basis of false accusations against me which I had refuted. Also everything except the likewise false Peter Galbraith accusation were previously brought up in ANI and disregarded by admins as aspersions and misrepresentations, no action taken.
- Why did you say I "failed to address the substance of the complaint", when I refuted every false accusation and thoroughly addressed the complaint? I'm attempting to understand for the future to make sure admins don't miss my comments again. Please give a straight response to my questions. Saucysalsa30 (talk) 03:07, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- Saying that you're right and it's all cleared up now is not refutation, and unwillingness to consider any voice but your own under any circumstances is detrimental to the encyclopedia. Taken as a whole, your conduct has been tendentious to the point of disruption. That's why you're sanctioned, and trying to litigate individual issues away misses the point. That you consider every encounter with another editor as an opportunity for argument or disputation is fundamentally problematic. Acroterion (talk) 03:30, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- That is not what I'm saying at all. I already refuted the accusations and proved with many diffs I was "right" on the AE section. You said that I "failed to address the substance of the complaint" which is blatantly false as you now concede, and is evidence you didn't read my comments on the AE section. I had already refuted those accusations and show you had ignored that. We can both agree it was not a fair judgment, and is need of more competent administrators.
- It's not about "individual issues" either, and I made that clear. I just pointed out the primary false accusation in this Talk section above so that the comment didn't get too wordy, and as a reminder that yes, I did refute all the accusations and it's clear the accuser was acting in bad faith and had plenty of problematic conduct and editing.
- > "That you consider every encounter with another editor as an opportunity for argument or disputation is fundamentally problematic"
- Could you please not cast aspersions (if anything, you're describing TheTimesAreAChanging who fights each editor that dares fixes his disruptive editing, as I'd already proven too)? There is that precise one user that has harassed, stalked, and insulted me on various articles which he had no prior activity for the last couple years because of an irrational grudge he has against me on. I already proved that. With other editors, I have had no problems like here.[13] Saucysalsa30 (talk) 04:12, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- How many ways shall I tell you that you’ve listened to no voice but your own, and that it’s a consistent, ongoing problem? All you’re doing is confirming this perception. Now you’re graduating to making your own statements in my voice. Stop that. The heart of the complaint is a consistent pattern of bludgeoning discussions, which you were doing in the topic area, which you tried to do at the beginning of AE, and which you're doing now. Far from refuting that complaint, you've made it amply clear that it's a pattern of conduct that is problematic and sanctionable. Acroterion (talk) 12:19, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- I understand now. You believe that building consensus and mutual agreements on a Talk page with well-known editors like Buidhe and others is "listening to no voice but my own", but TTAAC's only involvement was insulting multiple users and bludgeoning to push his disruptive editing over on Talk:Anfal campaign is not disruptive or bludgeoning. He then created an RfC, whose editors were still on my/Buidhe's side. Everything and everyone was against him, and he wouldn't listen to anyone but himself and started attacking multiple editors. Could you explain how that's not bludgeoning?
- That you mistake the situation which was almost entirely discussions and agreements for constructive improvements with @Buidhe as "bludgeoning" adds to that you hardly looked into the matter. It was only when TTAAC came in with a comment full of personal attacks, that things went south, and multiple users including GregKaye on the article's Talk page and Novem Linguae on his own Talk page[14] condemned him for it, calling TTAAC's comments a negative and apologized to me.
- I'll remind you again, he's brought up everything but the Galbraith disproven accusations before in August on ANI, and more competent admins expectedly threw out his accusations as false and misrepresentations. Other admins saw the matter a lot differently than you do. Saucysalsa30 (talk) 20:46, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- > "Far from refuting that complaint"
- See previous comments. Repeating this unfounded aspersion doesn't make it true. My statements were entirely about refuting the complaint and pointing out a history of stalking and harassment by an immature user with an established reputation and consistent history of personal attacks and disruptive editing in many topics and against many editors. If I didn't refute it in (too much) detail, I'd hardly have had much to write.
- No, I'm not making my own statements in your voice. I understand it's rational to defend a poor decision to save face as an admin. I understand it's easier to go with false accusations and misrepresentations than consider evidence refuting that and diving deeper. There's a thousand admins and some are clearly less competent than others, even to the point of excusing a designated terrorist organization in the topic area as "heroes"[15], which is shockingly bad bias for anyone nevermind an admin.
- This has been a constructive conversation, as, likely accidentally, you've conceded that you hadn't really looked at my side and the sidetracking and aspersions is further evidence that this was a very partial decision. My applause to those admins who are competent and trying to keep this site, despite its overwhelming flaws and universal disgust from academia, running. Saucysalsa30 (talk) 20:51, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- How many ways shall I tell you that you’ve listened to no voice but your own, and that it’s a consistent, ongoing problem? All you’re doing is confirming this perception. Now you’re graduating to making your own statements in my voice. Stop that. The heart of the complaint is a consistent pattern of bludgeoning discussions, which you were doing in the topic area, which you tried to do at the beginning of AE, and which you're doing now. Far from refuting that complaint, you've made it amply clear that it's a pattern of conduct that is problematic and sanctionable. Acroterion (talk) 12:19, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- Saying that you're right and it's all cleared up now is not refutation, and unwillingness to consider any voice but your own under any circumstances is detrimental to the encyclopedia. Taken as a whole, your conduct has been tendentious to the point of disruption. That's why you're sanctioned, and trying to litigate individual issues away misses the point. That you consider every encounter with another editor as an opportunity for argument or disputation is fundamentally problematic. Acroterion (talk) 03:30, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- Read WP:TE and WP:IDHT, because that's what you were doing, what you did at AE, and what you're doing now. Acroterion (talk) 02:57, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
please explain how my comments are wrong
I am not leaving Wikipedia until this is dealt with 2600:4040:403C:F300:2442:F8E1:9402:6E15 (talk) 14:44, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
the incel page pushes for blanket surveillance and the stripping of civil liberties from a population which is not deviant by default. This is no joke and it that page has caused many people real world harm 2600:4040:403C:F300:2442:F8E1:9402:6E15 (talk) 14:46, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Wp should just call the bad thing to label "blackpill" or something, the 'incel's who don't self-identify as blackpill do not deserve a terrorist response or stripping of civil liberties or blanket surveillance from weird NGOs 2600:4040:403C:F300:2442:F8E1:9402:6E15 (talk) 14:48, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Ask Bella Freeman what she thinks of the page. SHe ran one of the forums before the toxic ones. she also does not appreciate what you all are doing, its way beyond the pale and childlike. Maybe you are not among the people doing it on the incel page, but whoever is still or who have in the past, its really not mature 2600:4040:403C:F300:2442:F8E1:9402:6E15 (talk) 14:50, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Talkpages are for discussion of specific, actionable improvements to articles based on reliable sources. They are not fora for musings on feelings or personal reflections, nor are they for speculation abou nebulous surveillance campaigns by ... somebody That particular talkpage has been the target of extensive disruption of that kind. Acroterion (talk) 14:52, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Blocked user
Well, this gave us a scare. Glad the deletion log exists. Sarrail (talk) 03:30, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry to startle you - they were really determined to make their spam stick. Acroterion (talk) 03:39, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- BTW, looks like their contributions do also include spam as well. Deleting it would be helpful as well. Sarrail (talk) 03:49, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- Probably not necessary, I only revdeld where the edit summary would show in the history. Acroterion (talk) 03:57, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- BTW, looks like their contributions do also include spam as well. Deleting it would be helpful as well. Sarrail (talk) 03:49, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
Ever thought about...
...running for ArbCom?I I think you'd do well. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:28, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- I appreciate your confidence in me. Drmies tried to get me to run a couple of years ago, but my response is the same. Real Life intervenes, and I have clients, deadlines, family, and 40 or so people to help keep employed, and I would not be serving them or WP well to divide my attention. Acroterion (talk) 12:21, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- Completely understandable. Best, Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:13, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
Happy Adminship Anniversary!
You may wish to revoke TPA. Cahk (talk) Cahk (talk) 09:37, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
FYI… 39.116.182.33 is back as 14.46.200.34
Regarding this block, 39.116.182.33 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) has returned as 14.46.200.34 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 04:39, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- My patience with creepy trolls in mass shooting articles is about nil. I don’t see any more obvious candidates in the articles they’ve been frequenting. Acroterion (talk) 04:55, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- The user is still there, and just voted three times or more on the RFC as 2001:4430:40FE:B354:F0C5:5FBF:609B:129D (talk · contribs). Viriditas (talk) 05:44, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
N924G not race modified
N924G is stock Seafury flying with a Bristol Centaurus 18 engine. not a one off just a stock bird that races at Reno 2601:600:4380:7A40:6D5D:8BE3:BA68:CE29 (talk) 19:40, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- You will need far better sourcing than you were using. Acroterion (talk) 22:35, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
10 seconds is way too short to reflect on the deletion of this:[16] You were quick to lecture me but are mum on this. And the subsection in question is about a health claim that has currently no peer-reviewed source, it's only this article doi:10.1038/d41586-021-02853-4. But I didn't erase the old text, I only added a contradictory outcome that is based on the results of a peer-reviewed study with large database:doi:10.1001/jamacardio.2022.0583 To scold me it only took you one or two minutes, but silence for over an hour when I want a explanation on the substance. The substance is that this Wikipedia article makes a health claim, in theory people read that and possibly act on that. I want more seriousness here! Myosci (talk) 19:19, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- May I quote this article:
Study after study has shown that people who receive two different COVID-19 vaccines generate potent immune responses, with side effects no worse than those caused by standard regimens.
So "study after study" shows "no worse than" but not one footnote to back-up. - And yes there are three articles in the literature list BUT the mix-and-match there only applies to the combination: first dose AstraZenca vaccine, second dose mRNA. It's not mRNA-BNT and mRNA-MOD as I'm talking about. AstraZenca fell out of use in many countries for more than a years now and in the U.S. is was never used. So mix-and-match now means Biontech and Moderna. And there is no source in the article to back up the health claim. And you attack me? --Myosci (talk) 19:41, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- Administrators don't regulate or arbitrate article content. You are obligated to follow consensus, and you are not entitled to set terms under which you will or will not accept the views of other editors. Acroterion (talk) 21:35, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- What are you talking about? I do not set terms, it's one of the other users that says that 10 seconds are enough for reverting my edit (including a peer-reviewed source that's brought up by me). This is clearly ad hominem and you take this side by not engaging on my complaint. You fail as a referee. --Myosci (talk) 22:31, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not a referee. I was concerned that your conduct was escalating to a sanctionable level. Please reconsider your approach to working with other editors, because a confrontational, oppositional approach is not working there, nor is it a good approach here. Acroterion (talk) 22:36, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- How can you say that about me? Did you really explore the back-story? Did you see that on the topic of myocarditis the stated rates were erroneously low and other editors corrected. See point 3 in the subsection COVID-19_vaccine#Adverse_events now and before. The source article is btw. the same I advocated before, see Talk:COVID-19_vaccine#Article_in_Circulation, the discussion topic that was closed (like so many other) before without any consent. So I'm the one who's subject to constant confrontational action by the "top editors"(*) – but I'm the one that cites studies! And when I bring in data one "top editor" got full ad personam, see [17]. So void of substance. I bring in the data again and again but when I finally complain about this constant distraction and obstruction I'm the culprit?? Classical. --Myosci (talk) 23:16, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- Def. "top editors" in this post should refer to editors that often use actions like closing a discussion topic without consent. I never closed a discussion, and I don't like to erase other edits, I don't want to be a "top editor". I don't need that on this topic, regrettably.--Myosci (talk) 23:50, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- Since you've stopped disrupting the article talkpage with accusations against other editors - by the way, experienced editors are allowed to disagree with you and may be consistent in the way they interpret policy - and since you've moved into trying to discuss article content here, this discussion is at an end. I am not and will not be involved in content discussions. Please resist the impulse to argue at great length with other editors. This is a collaborative enterprise, and you need to convince other editors that you're right rather than bludgeoning discussions or trying to discredit them. Acroterion (talk) 00:36, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not a referee. I was concerned that your conduct was escalating to a sanctionable level. Please reconsider your approach to working with other editors, because a confrontational, oppositional approach is not working there, nor is it a good approach here. Acroterion (talk) 22:36, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- What are you talking about? I do not set terms, it's one of the other users that says that 10 seconds are enough for reverting my edit (including a peer-reviewed source that's brought up by me). This is clearly ad hominem and you take this side by not engaging on my complaint. You fail as a referee. --Myosci (talk) 22:31, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- Administrators don't regulate or arbitrate article content. You are obligated to follow consensus, and you are not entitled to set terms under which you will or will not accept the views of other editors. Acroterion (talk) 21:35, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
Lord saturnus
.....may bear taking a look at. I kinda get the impression that they're not actually a new editor, and they're editing in some sensitive areas. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:02, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- Their rather patronizing style reminds me of someone, or at least of a certain sort of editor who would be attracted to that kind of subject. I'll keep an eye on them. Acroterion (talk) 03:51, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:08, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
“On wheels”
This is the wheels person. Willy on Wheels has done a lot of damage to the encyclopedia in the old days. Sarrail (talk) 22:23, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, I've been around long enough to remember the original WoW. Nowadays it's a bunch of lame imitators. Acroterion (talk) 23:29, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
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- Brian K Tyler May have been disrespecting Jeff Bergman characters thinking that Jeff Bergman hasn’t voice a character for a while and he thinks what at least two or three of the most recent productions and projects and Brian said in his British accent I Think we should just stick with two current voice actors for Tweety Bob Bergen and Eric Bauza and one current voice actor for Daffy Duck Eric Bauza since he thinks Jeff Bergman hasn’t been able to do These Characters for a while, Brian K Tyler quote I don’t think Jeff Bergman hasn’t voiced These two unforgettable Chracters in long time I Don’t Cared Jeff Bergman Characters I’m just Going what the other sites said and told me to do and please do what I Brian K Tyler the Smartest Guy on Wikipedia And You will respect me since I’m cleaning up the errors, mistyped my words and whenever I Get into trouble Call me Love Brian K Tyler. You Ungrateful Crybaby, He’s Three questions One Please Bring Back present for Tweety and Daffy Duck Articles for Jeff Bergman’s Part as Tweety And Daffy Duck and Removed Bob Bergen’s part as Tweety. Two Brian I don’t known what country your from whether England or Australia or the United States. And Three Stop Hating and Disrespecting Jeff Bergman. Brian K. Tyler (talk) 20:26, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
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Please review edit battle for the top of article photo description. There are users insisting on using their own opinion rather than an appropriate citation to revert an edit correcting what is depicted in the photo. Gmw112252 (talk) 03:34, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
- My sole action is to warn you that there are arbitration sanctions that apply there, and that you've been edging toward attacks on other editors. Administrators do not arbitrate content. Acroterion (talk)
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AE appeal notification
Hello, as required, this is notification of my appeal.[18] You were the enforcing admin. Saucysalsa30 (talk) 23:00, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
Inevitability, I'm afraid
They just achieved an indef block both here and on Commons. See Com:AN/U. It may be worth seeking the global locks you suggested as a preventative measure since they are still able to voice their unusual opinions on all projects. They have not yet done so. That's above my pay grade.
Thank you for your quiet and considered help with this editor. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 08:51, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- I am unsurprised. However, I don't see anything outside their disruption of enwiki and Commons that would cause a steward to take action. I'll keep an eye onm their global contributions. Acroterion (talk) 18:00, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- After reflection I concur with your view. Another editor has already requested a global lock. You'll be aware of that because I've pinged you there, offering my own paraphrasing of what I believe to be your view. If I have misrepresented you please let me know. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 19:13, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
Tone doesn't carry well over text
Hello! Regarding this[19], I had no "new grievances". You may have missed it, but Dallavid had "grievances", to use this word, against me for just earlier debunking their AE section's accusations against and pointing out their multiple attempted actions against Olympian[20], and they noticed I had made an open AE section. Dallavid, not happy about my comment on their AE section, used this to express grievances on my AE section against me by accusing my comment on their AE section of being a "personal attack"[21]. All I did in response to Dallavid's was provide the diffs I provided earlier in Dallavid's AE section showing I made no personal attack[22].
I am assuming good faith in that you missed these details preceding my response to Dallavid and that tone doesn't carry well over text, which both led to this misunderstanding mixing up who did what, and not the first one.[23] I hope this clears it up for you. If I may ask, please look beyond the surface level when making these observations and decisions. Thanks for all you do and I know you're busy, but the details matter. Saucysalsa30 (talk) 02:06, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
- We're not going to relitigate your conflicts with other editors here. I'm well aware of the problem of tone in written communication, often between people from different cultural backgrounds, and the potential; for misunderstanding. With that in mind, your repeated assertions that I am somehow confused or negligent, or that you have always been impeccably correct do not sound the way you think they do.
- I do not make a practice of following sanctioned editors around to see if they've done something wrong. If you think you are in doubtful territory where the topic ban is concerned, let me know and I'll give you my opinion on whether you're too close, without judgment.Acroterion (talk) 02:19, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
- To explain more clearly, I have no conflict, any prior activity with, or know who Dallavid is. Having been on AE in recent days, I noticed an AE section by one editor I have never seen (Dallavid) with mispresentations against another editor (Olympian) I've never seen. I commented on that AE section, and then Dallavid afterwards, to quote, raised "new grievances against" me about that with the ill-intentioned comment on the AE section I had opened.
- I am not litigating or asking you to do anything, if that wasn't clear. My only intent is I demonstrated with diffs that your statement of me having "new grievances" was in error, and emphasizing why details and a close-look matter so that (presumably well-meant) aspersions and misunderstandings like this can be avoided, especially in the capacity of an admin on (in my opinion) an important part of the internet. Regarding doubtful territory, thank you for that. Saucysalsa30 (talk) 08:44, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
Jonathan kipnis entry
Why was that reverted? 173.69.145.69 (talk) 04:20, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
- It was a sourceless appendage. Please source everything,e specially where it involves living individuals, to reliable mainstream sources. Acroterion (talk) 04:21, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
Block evasion
Cool person with extra meat if you know what I mean (talk · contribs) = Cool person with average sandwich (talk · contribs) 2601:19E:4180:6D50:0:0:0:8D29 (talk) 03:50, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, much appreciated. Acroterion (talk) 03:53, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- Sure. I'm wondering if TheMattro (talk · contribs) is related, as well. 2601:19E:4180:6D50:0:0:0:8D29 (talk) 04:09, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- Probably - their conduct is indistinguishable from the other accounts, so it amounts to the same thing Acroterion (talk) 04:18, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
- Sure. I'm wondering if TheMattro (talk · contribs) is related, as well. 2601:19E:4180:6D50:0:0:0:8D29 (talk) 04:09, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
Revision Deletion Request
Hey Acroterion, I recently found a revision by an IP that violates the BLP policy, which I swiftly reverted. Can you please delete the revision so it doesn't cause any problems? Thanks.
Revision in question: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=James_Buckley_(actor)&oldid=1128061729 Khrincan (talk) 05:03, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
Orluud
Can you also block User:2A02:8084:A82:A600:E530:C27B:28FB:1ED0 as well. It is also a sockpuppet of Orluud you blocked. -174.95.137.59 (talk) 06:12, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
Question regarding conspiracy-pushing editor
I noticed that you recently reverted this edit at Texas School Book Depository. I have been dealing with this editor for a little bit because they continually promote conspiracy theories (examples here, here, and here), POV push (example here). They haven't headed anyone's warnings so far and I was wondering what the next steps would be to prevent the continued conspiracy-pushing (ANI maybe?). Best, GPL93 (talk) 13:47, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
- I would leave a polite, custom-written note explaining WIkipedia policy and the importance of consensus first. ANI would be needed if the conduct continues after discussion, or after a couple of attempts at explanation have been ignored. Acroterion (talk) 17:43, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
eh Harry Potter?
Yes, I'm going to join the rest of the family and watch Harry Potter--I know, it's a sacrifice. At least I have coffee and chocolates. Enjoy holding the fort! Drmies (talk) 01:20, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- Watch out for that noseless guy - Voldewarts, or whoever he is. I'm going to knock off in a while and eat - a friend of my wife has shown up with presents, but I don't want to go banging around in the kitchen and imply that something's being held up. Acroterion (talk) 01:28, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- I think you mean He-who-must-not-be-nosed.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:52, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- PRESENTS!!!! So I got a million things that came in from Amazon and one box was for me--a set of windshield wipers and I managed to order the wrong type. Ah well. Did you get better presents? BTW my kids are at an age now where characters in the Potter movies are becoming sexually attractive to them. It's very disconcerting. They should just stop growing at 8. Drmies (talk) 14:49, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- I will take a picture of the early present from the neighbors, after dark - an inflatable holiday dinosaur for our yard. I think it's so they won't be embarrassed by theirs. As for your kids, your disconcertion is going to keep increasing for a while. Acroterion (talk) 18:12, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- PRESENTS!!!! So I got a million things that came in from Amazon and one box was for me--a set of windshield wipers and I managed to order the wrong type. Ah well. Did you get better presents? BTW my kids are at an age now where characters in the Potter movies are becoming sexually attractive to them. It's very disconcerting. They should just stop growing at 8. Drmies (talk) 14:49, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
- I think you mean He-who-must-not-be-nosed.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:52, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
Seasons Greetings
Whatever you celebrate at this time of year, whether it's Christmas or some other festival, I hope you and those close to you have a happy, restful time! Have fun, Donner60 (talk) 00:16, 23 December 2022 (UTC)}} |
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Warring editors
You can engage with the content, or allow those two bad faith editors to continue their tactics. Up to you. Twasonasummersmorn (talk) 15:11, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
I put a post on the UNHRC talk page that had support. Selfstudier is vandlizing my edits. You can sanction him. and Should.JerusalemisthecapitalofIsrael (talk) 23:15, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
Happy New Year, Acroterion!
Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.
— Moops ⋠T⋡ 23:39, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
ANI bad block now good block by Girth but a question
Seems a CU block now in effect so I have a question, when Admins block does the technical block of a new user using same IP as a blocked user get listed as a block by the orginal admin? Just wondering if Jp not knowing was because it was automated. Or that I'm wildly wrong in my assumptions. Slywriter (talk) 17:04, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- It shows up as an autoblock under the blocking administrator's attribution in the block logs, but the underlying IP is not publicly-logged - that would be checkuser territory., and Jpgordon's a checkuser. I was pretty certain the account was a malicious user in any case, so while maybe coincidental, it amounted to the same outcome, just maybe a little faster than it would otherwise have been with a push from the original block. Acroterion (talk) 17:25, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – January 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2022).
- Speedy deletion criterion A5 (transwikied articles) has been repealed following an unopposed proposal.
- Following the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Barkeep49, CaptainEek, GeneralNotability, Guerillero, L235, Moneytrees, Primefac, SilkTork.
- The 2021-22 Discretionary Sanctions Review has concluded with many changes to the discretionary sanctions procedure including a change of the name to "contentious topics". The changes are being implemented over the coming month.
- The arbitration case Stephen has been closed.
- Voting for the Sound Logo has closed and the winner is expected to be announced February to April 2023.
- Tech tip: You can view information about IP addresses in a centralised location using bullseye which won the Newcomer award in the recent Coolest Tool Awards.
The Bugle: Issue 201, January 2023
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ANI incident
Hello Acroterion,
I think Ramos1990's accusatory post should remain as it was originally, as I already answered to his words as they were. Æo (talk) 23:56, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
Revdeletion request
Are you willing to do a revdeletion request? A BLP got called a slur. Scorpions13256 (talk) 03:31, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- Sure. Diff? Acroterion (talk) 03:33, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- Here. Scorpions13256 (talk) 03:34, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- Gloria Hemingway's been dead for 22 years, so even though the vandalism is in a BLP, it's not about the BLP. However, I've blocked the silly IP. Acroterion (talk) 03:40, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- D'oh. I did not read carefully enough to see that it was actually his sister. Sorry. Scorpions13256 (talk) 03:42, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- No problem, better to be cautious. Acroterion (talk) 03:43, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- D'oh. I did not read carefully enough to see that it was actually his sister. Sorry. Scorpions13256 (talk) 03:42, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- Gloria Hemingway's been dead for 22 years, so even though the vandalism is in a BLP, it's not about the BLP. However, I've blocked the silly IP. Acroterion (talk) 03:40, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- Here. Scorpions13256 (talk) 03:34, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Defamation at Greg Lansky
This edit [24] has been reverted and final warning given at anon. talk page. More than one ip may be involved. — Neonorange (talk to Phil) (he, they) 06:14, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- There has been a pattern of Jew-tagging at that article for some time now. I assume there's something elsewhere on the Internet that's been driving them there. I'll continue to watch the page. Acroterion (talk) 16:15, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
What do you think of this?
[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Far-left_politics&action=history] compare to Far-right politics Doug Weller talk 14:35, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Admin's Barnstar | |
Appreciate you handling the situation I was involved in earlier! It was extremely difficult and your handling like a pro, guess that's why you're an admin! Philipnelson99 (talk) 03:48, 17 January 2023 (UTC) |
- Thank you. I'm probably feeling less than tolerant of nonsense, this is the second example of obnoxious harassment I've encountered today, from people who really need to go take a walk or make a sandwich or something instead, rather than arguing with people on the Internet. Acroterion (talk) 03:52, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- I totally understand! Sometimes the internet just isn't worth the headache. Philipnelson99 (talk) 03:57, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- "I'm probably feeling less than tolerant of nonsense" - can you then go and fix the nonsense you and the gang are defending to exist at Southern Federal District? 77.191.245.57 (talk) 03:59, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- You just don't quit, do you? Philipnelson99 (talk) 04:01, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | |
Thanks for your help in protecting Ponyo, Tedder, CycloneYoris, and my talk pages. Along with the reverts and blocks, of course. Tails Wx 13:07, 19 January 2023 (UTC) |
January 2023
Hello, I'm ButterCashier. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Adam Schiff have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. ButterCashier (talk) 12:07, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I know misclick and browser lag on a tablet in the morning. Acroterion (talk) 12:10, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
Some help at ANI
Good morning! I was wondering if you could check out a complaint that I raised at ANI. Many thanks. Cpotisch (talk) 13:07, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'm about to leave for work, so I won't be able to give it appropriate attention until this evening. Acroterion (talk) 13:12, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
Sorry about modifying your block
Sorry about the block on that block evading account. Didn't see you had already upgraded the block. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:43, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- It's a spammer/sock - see ARABIC_RUSIYA_AL-YAUM_RUSSIA_TODAY_supports_RADIO_GAMMA_5,_94FM_Campodarsego (talk · contribs) , blocked earlier today and TP access revoked after they kept on spamming. Acroterion (talk) 00:47, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- I was pretty sure I recognized that coming across my watchlist earlier today, but I want sure enough to go straight to a block evasion block I'll remember when next they show up. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:50, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- No worries - I think we edit-conflicted. Acroterion (talk) 00:51, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- I was pretty sure I recognized that coming across my watchlist earlier today, but I want sure enough to go straight to a block evasion block I'll remember when next they show up. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:50, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – February 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2023).
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- Following an RfC, the administrator policy now requires that prior written consent be gained from the Arbitration Committee to mark a block as only appealable to the committee.
- Following a community discussion, consensus has been found to impose the extended-confirmed restriction over the topic areas of Armenia and Azerbaijan and Kurds and Kurdistan.
- The Vector 2022 skin has become the default for desktop users of the English Wikipedia.
- The arbitration case Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 24 February 2023.
- In December, the contentious topics procedure was adopted which replaces the former discretionary sanctions system. The contentious topics procedure is now in effect following an initial implementation period. There is a detailed summary of the changes and administrator instructions for the new procedure. The arbitration clerk team are taking suggestions, concerns, and unresolved questions about this new system at their noticeboard.
- Voting in the 2023 Steward elections will begin on 05 February 2023, 21:00 (UTC) and end on 26 February 2023, 21:00 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
- Voting in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey will begin on 10 February 2023 and end on 24 February 2023. You can submit, discuss and revise proposals until 6 February 2023.
- Tech tip: Syntax highlighting is available in both the 2011 and 2017 Wikitext editors. It can help make editing paragraphs with many references or complicated templates easier.
Many thanks!
Thank you for that very fast response, Acroterion: obviously this socker is just creating accounts for his vandalism as fast as he can type. A pleasant day to you! Ravenswing 12:00, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- You’re welcome. I have limited time to research, who do you think is the master? Acroterion (talk) 12:04, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- It's obviously referring to this discussion: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1118#Rude_administrators'_exploits_on_Kryvyi_Rih_page_(city_in_Ukraine), where User:Slava Ukraini Heroyam Slava 123 was the sockmaster, with over 37 confirmed sockpuppets (Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Slava Ukraini Heroyam Slava 123), and a definite pattern of creating socks with nonsense strings for names. I don't know if it's feasible to track down the originating IP address and go for a rangeblock, but ... hope this helps a bit! Ravenswing 12:14, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- I expect it's feasible for a CU ro do so, and I'd put in a request. Acroterion (talk) 12:31, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- It's obviously referring to this discussion: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1118#Rude_administrators'_exploits_on_Kryvyi_Rih_page_(city_in_Ukraine), where User:Slava Ukraini Heroyam Slava 123 was the sockmaster, with over 37 confirmed sockpuppets (Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Slava Ukraini Heroyam Slava 123), and a definite pattern of creating socks with nonsense strings for names. I don't know if it's feasible to track down the originating IP address and go for a rangeblock, but ... hope this helps a bit! Ravenswing 12:14, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Request for review of draft article Mughal Khel
Dear Editor,
I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to kindly request your attention towards my draft article Draft:Mughal Khel, which is about the Mughal Khel subtribe of Yousafzai Pashtuns. I have taken care to provide all necessary references, and it has been two months since I submitted the draft for review.
I would greatly appreciate it if you could take a moment to review my article and provide any feedback or suggestions for improvement. Your attention to this matter would be highly valued and would help to bring the article to its full potential.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Best regards, 14:37, 2 February 2023 (UTC)Isparki — Preceding unsigned comment added by Isparki (talk • contribs)
The Bugle: Issue 202, February 2023
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Boeing 747
Hello, why does the status of the Boeing 747 have to be in production. Boeing has decommissioned the Boeing 747 2001:448A:2003:DC78:D594:561A:211:6050 (talk) 01:17, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- They've stopped making them. Hundreds are still flying, and will for years, so they're not "decommissioned." They're just no longer in production. Acroterion (talk) 01:18, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- Why are (seemingly) so many people not understanding this? These newly built aircraft are going to be used for at least twenty years, probably more. BilCat (talk) 03:50, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, a $100+ million plane is going to do nothing but fly every living minute it can, for a long time. It will be a sad day when they aren’t. I miss 727s, noisy and crew and fuel-intensive as they were, they were elegant. Acroterion (talk) 04:10, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- Why are (seemingly) so many people not understanding this? These newly built aircraft are going to be used for at least twenty years, probably more. BilCat (talk) 03:50, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- I loved the 727s too. I flew on them as a passenger when I was a kid, mainly over the Caribbean. Well-built, so you didn't feel like you might fall out. They weren't all that noisy inside inside unless you were near the back. They also had quite a kick when taking off because of those 3 JT8Ds, so I loved flying in them. To my knowledge, I've never flown in a 747, so I may never get the chance. I flew in plenty of DC-9s/MD-80s and L-1011s, mostly on Eastern/Delta. BilCat (talk)
- I flew in a Sabena 747-100 from Atlanta to Brussels in 1980, It was my first trip abroad, so I wasn't paying a lot of attention to the airplane. The next year I flew on a nearly empty Pan Am 747-100 from Dulles to JFK, I guess it amounted to a positioning flight, and then on in a different Pan Am 747 to Heathrow. That flight was packed. I can tell you that an overnight flight in a middle seat in the middle section of a full 747, near the toilets, is not something to want to repeat.
- I flew on a lot of Delta and Eastern 727s during that time in and out of Atlanta. One flight on a TWA L-1011 from Paris CDG to Boston, and then a connecting flight on a TWA 727-100 to DCA (I was paying more attention to the airplanes by then), and another TWA L-1011 a few years later from Paris to Dulles, having flown out on a Pan Am A310. I flew three times on DC-10s - a Sabena flight from Brussels to Atlanta, and two World flights from BWI to Gatwick and back. Acroterion (talk) 13:22, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
Category:Community centers in Wyoming has been nominated for merging
Category:Community centers in Wyoming has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:09, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
Closing a discussion
Hey, Acroterion. Are you comfortable closing/hatting this five-year-old discussion in Talk:Clint Hill? It seems like an IP went off the rails with walls of text to where even the SineBot couldn't even keep up. Cheers! -Location (talk) 03:48, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks! -Location (talk) 04:00, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- If there was ever a candidate for archiving, that's it. I added an archive header so those who just have to read it can find it. Acroterion (talk) 04:01, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
Bageleditor
FYI, a user that you recently blocked, Bageleditor (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has returned to making the same deletions over at Bagel, and has also started adding some inappropriate comments on my user talk page. - MrOllie (talk) 21:35, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Blocked for a week for personal attacks. I don't get the business about scrubbing Jewish roots from the article, it's not incompatible with Polish roots, and it's sourced. They're on thin ice. Acroterion (talk) 01:16, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
When you have a moment
Hello A. I hope you are well. The same troll who attacked Deepfriedokra a couple days ago hit my talk page as well. If you could remove the edits and summaries that would be great. Thanks for your time and have a nice weekend. MarnetteD|Talk 21:50, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- Current IP range blocked, and all zapped. Acroterion (talk) 00:28, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
Looks like there was another CIA-editing allegation
Hope all is well. The IP that is very likely to be Alexbarbershop made another CIA-censorship allegation on February 15 (see this edit summary) while also editorializing another article. Best, GPL93 (talk) 22:31, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- The behavior's the same, but the IP geolocates to the other side of the country from where Alexbarbershop claims to be. Acroterion (talk) 00:24, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
BLP Noticeboard
Hi there apparently you believe that my post there was inappropriate. Could you please explain that to me? Elinruby (talk) 23:41, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
- No, I misclicked. Sorry about that. Acroterion (talk) 23:42, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Ah thanks. No worries then, stuff happens. Did you put it back? Elinruby (talk) 00:18, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
- Yup, right away. Cooking dinner and waiting for the scripts to all load aren't compatible. Acroterion (talk) 00:22, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
Thanks ;) Elinruby (talk) 00:30, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – March 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2023).
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- Following a request for comment, F10 (useless non-media files) has been deprecated.
- Following a request for comment, the Portal CSD criteria (P1 (portal subject to CSD as an article) and P2 (underpopulated portal)) have been deprecated.
- A request for comment is open to discuss making the closing instructions for the requested moves process a guideline.
- The results of the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey have been posted.
- Remedy 11 ("Request for Comment") of the Conduct in deletion-related editing case has been rescinded.
- The proposed decision for the Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case is expected 7 March 2023.
- A case related to the Holocaust in Poland is expected to be opened soon.
- The 2023 appointees for the Ombuds commission are AGK, Ameisenigel, Bennylin, Daniuu, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, JJMC89, MdsShakil, Minorax and Renvoy as regular members and Zabe as advisory members.
- Following the 2023 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Mykola7, Superpes15, and Xaosflux.
- The Terms of Use update cycle has started, which includes a
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Discussion on the wording of 3RR
Hi. Can you offer your thoughts regarding the question I asked here? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 02:54, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
User:Wjemather
Wjemather has been unnecessarily undoing good edits from editors (myself and others ) for three years now. Editors have tried reasoning with that person over time, but that person does not want to listen. Several people in private chats have expressed their frustration with that person, simply because they don't know where else to turn to talk of their frustration.
That person's behaviour has not only been unproked, unneeded undoings of valid edits that no one else has ever had a problem with, but hypocritical also; the list is long of the times that that person would spitefully undo the very same type of edits that they themself have done before, throwing logic out the window. In other words, it's okay for themself, but not for others.
One other behaviour that makes that person unreasonable is making things up on the spot: An editor will do a good edit in the traditional way, but then this person in question will undo the edit with the excuse (paraphrasing), "Just because this is the traditional way is not an excuse to keep doing it that way.".
Trying to reason with that person has failed for years with many who have tried.
I've been editing on Wikipedia since 2007 and had never had any real problems from an editor until that one. I've been doing the same type of edits in the same way since the beginning, and in early 2020 that person came along and decided to be the first to take their own personal feelings and force feed them onto the Wikipedia community with uncalled for retractions that no one else had ever had a problem with. Nitpicking at every single turn, unJusifiably.
Most of that person's edits are undoings,, not additions, meaning the main purpose that person has had over the last three years has been to unneededly undo other people's edits, even when having to make up a reason to do so.
Simply to spite me, that person went and undid a good edit of mine on a page concerning a topic that they no absolutely nothing about:
Also last year, that person went back on a previously agreed upon standard for preparing the WGC MATCH Play page, one in which that person had willingly agreed to the year before:
It gets worse, you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't; If you do an edit one particular way, that person undoes it and criticizes you, but then if you do the edit the opposite way, that person still undoes it and criticizes you.
I would have to go and do weeks' worth of finding and citing all the examples of that person's gross, uncalled for undoings. For now, I will show a few recent examples of the kinds of edits that no one else ever had a a problem with, but this person is hell bent on interfering with anyway:
Undoing a perfectly good preparation that is done each week on the PGA Tour, for no reason ...
Undoing more preparation that is done as a normal thing in Wikipedia, for no reason ...
And those are only two examples of a half a dozen interference type of undoings in the last 24 hours. It takes time and trouble to go and post these here, so I'll stop there for now.
Other times, that person will try to get a page deleted, because in their OPINION the page was made "too early", something of which no one else has ever been known to complain about in recent years. There are links to show proof of this.
After three years of constant interference of spiteful, uncalled for undoings, we will not tolerate it any longer. I have been on here for sixteen years without serious trouble for 13 of them. Over the last three years, this constant hypocritical and unneeded interference won't be tolerated. Even the simple act of letting that person know, they lash back as if you are wronging them in some way, playing the victim.
Since no one has been able to get through to them because of their unreasonableness, we hope maybe you could have a chat with them to see if you can get through. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 03:20, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- Can you give me some examples of actual communication between the two of you? Positive or negative? I'm concerned at the way you're attributing motives that aren't apparent in the diffs. Have you tried asking why they disagree, and how you might find common ground? You are both experienced, productive long-term editors. Acroterion (talk) 03:45, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Paraguay article and the user Preposacion
Hello, there is a single purpose account called Preposacion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Preposacion) that has been trying to use the Paraguay page as a leftist political platform for several months, writing an ideological text, clearly biased, attacking multinational grain plantation companies, using unreliable or low reliability sources. I took the partial text out of it and put in a neutral one that was already on the page before, but it will come back and vandalize again. The strangest thing is that this account went straight to complain to a socialist admin a few months ago, as if he knew the person, that is, this account is very suspicious. I think this account should be screened, as it appears to be someone previously banned and using a new account, or something like that, as it demonstrates an experience that new accounts don't have. I ask that you block this IP from this account indefinitely so that he can stop using the Wikipedia platform improperly. Thanks.177.132.25.55 (talk) 17:47, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't see any post Preposacion made to any user's Talk page, let alone to that of a "socialist admin". OTOH, I suspect the IP is evading IndioMarikon's block.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:02, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Everyone outside Wikipedia complains about socialist partialism here, you should be concerned about that and not inventing that everyone who complains is IP evasion to simply block it. You post from Cuba to think like that, by any chance? Your partialism is very blatant, my friend. It's very easy to to that, easy. What the h-ll is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=1132451812 ????? The sources used by this guy have no neutrality. Pay attention to the facts. An account with 5 posts knows how to complain to an administrator privately, how amazing!! How this guy finded the administrator here, by magic? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Vif12vf&diff=prev&oldid=1129538005 ?? Serious? His IQ must be alien. 177.132.25.55 (talk) 18:05, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- I missed the post to Vif12vf's Talk page - they are not an admin, though, and your nonsense about socialism, bias, etc., the usual, is not helpful. I've blocked you for a week for a combination of reasons.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:41, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Bbb23, congratulations on your apparent relocation to sunny Cuba. Enjoy the weather, at least until hurricane season. And I endorse the IP's block. Acroterion (talk) 22:05, 8 March 2023 (UTC)6
- I missed the post to Vif12vf's Talk page - they are not an admin, though, and your nonsense about socialism, bias, etc., the usual, is not helpful. I've blocked you for a week for a combination of reasons.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:41, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Everyone outside Wikipedia complains about socialist partialism here, you should be concerned about that and not inventing that everyone who complains is IP evasion to simply block it. You post from Cuba to think like that, by any chance? Your partialism is very blatant, my friend. It's very easy to to that, easy. What the h-ll is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=1132451812 ????? The sources used by this guy have no neutrality. Pay attention to the facts. An account with 5 posts knows how to complain to an administrator privately, how amazing!! How this guy finded the administrator here, by magic? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Vif12vf&diff=prev&oldid=1129538005 ?? Serious? His IQ must be alien. 177.132.25.55 (talk) 18:05, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
The Bugle: Issue 203, March 2023
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Lee Hall Depot
Hey! I interacted with you several months ago (my IP has changed since then; it used to be 108.48.97.70) over adding an architecture section to the page Lee Hall Depot. Since then, I have found what I think is a contract proposal from PMA Architecture, the company that worked on restoring the building. Here's the link; https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=4062542814a8fe2184c5694de26504b94a405129. Now, to me this seems like it could have useful information in it; the problem is that I don't really understand how to read through this kind of stuff (and its also hundreds of pages long). I wanted to ask you about it, because its pretty much useless to me at this time. Thank you and have a good day! 108.51.193.155 (talk) 02:16, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Boy does that look familiar - I've written hundreds of specs like that. However, for Wikipedia purposes, it's way too far down in the weeds, and it's a primary source. The encyclopedia article really doesn't need to state the types of payment and change order procedures, sealants, sprinklers or door hardware. It's just a pretty routine Masterspec project manual for a construction project (not a project proposal exactly, these are the technical specifications for the contractor to follow). While it's totally familiar to me as an architect, I wouldn't use it unless I was writing a monograph on the topic, and only sparingly even then. Acroterion (talk) 03:15, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- To expand a little, such a document would be valuable for an archive, where someone doing in-depth research would find it interesting. However, few specs end up describing the work that was actually done in every detail. They normally allow equivalent substitutions, there are change orders or supplemental instructions, or something simply gets changed in the field. Access to the contractor's submittals and shop drawings to the architect and as-built drawings and specs may confirm those events, but even those aren't wholly reliable. In any case, all that is beyond the scope of a summary-style encyclopedia article. Acroterion (talk) 13:25, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- I see. Do you think it might be useful if be linked in the External Sources section? 108.51.193.155 (talk) 14:38, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- It's a bit specialized and is a little outside the normal scope of WP:EL, but I see no harm. Even better, if you can find a link to the construction plans that would have had to accompany the specs, those would probably be more illuminating to researchers. Acroterion (talk) 15:19, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- So, if I were to add it to the EL section, how should it be named (I obviously can't just post the raw link). Also, as I'm an IP editor and can not do it myself, when you have the time could you run the Citation Bot on the page? The references have gotten rather messy. 108.51.193.155 (talk) 17:56, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- You would use this kind of format: Restoration specification. However, I am unenthusiastic about adding a purely technical document, as opposed to a general reference link that would be more in the spirit of WP:EL. In any case, I encourage you to register an account so you can do more. Acroterion (talk) 02:35, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- So, if I were to add it to the EL section, how should it be named (I obviously can't just post the raw link). Also, as I'm an IP editor and can not do it myself, when you have the time could you run the Citation Bot on the page? The references have gotten rather messy. 108.51.193.155 (talk) 17:56, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- It's a bit specialized and is a little outside the normal scope of WP:EL, but I see no harm. Even better, if you can find a link to the construction plans that would have had to accompany the specs, those would probably be more illuminating to researchers. Acroterion (talk) 15:19, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- I see. Do you think it might be useful if be linked in the External Sources section? 108.51.193.155 (talk) 14:38, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Good morning! I noticed you just installed permanent semi-protection for Boeing 747 due to ongoing nonconstructive IP editing. I was wondering if you would consider the same for Alberg 30? This article has been the target of very persistent IP vandalism for many years. In the past it has been protected for periods of time, but as soon as the protection expires the vandalism starts all over again. I think permanent semi-protection might just stop it. - Ahunt (talk) 13:09, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- I protected 747 for a year again, but it will probably end up permanently semi-protected. The Alberg edits seem to be coming from a couple of very small ranges, and I think a long partial rangeblock might be better. There are several sailboat articles that are being targeted from those ranges. I'll take a look around this evening when I have time and the wits to figure out a block structure. Acroterion (talk) 13:18, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for any solution you can devise! Just looking at the full article history it seems that the IPs are from several different ranges, all assigned to one ISP, though. - Ahunt (talk) 13:43, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- I've blocked two ranges: 142.51.240.0/21 [25] and 142.51.192.0/19 [26] from several sailboat-related topics, for three years. Undoubtedly they'll find others to edit, but you (and I) should be able to see them by checking those contribution ranges. Full blocks would inflict too much collateral damage, even though the ranges are relatively small at 2048 and 8192 addresses. Acroterion (talk) 01:57, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for any solution you can devise! Just looking at the full article history it seems that the IPs are from several different ranges, all assigned to one ISP, though. - Ahunt (talk) 13:43, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
Indef/TPA
Hi Acroterion. Sorry to drag you into a situation, but I see you're currently active. I left a message for Black Kite about a problem user that he indef'd for a particular article, but Black Kite doesn't seem to be around at the moment. Now this user is engaging in highly disruptive behaviour on their user talk page; a quick look at the edit history will show you everything. I think they need to be indef'd sooner rather than later. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 13:36, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- Looks like they've been advised of their right to vanish, and have stopped. Acroterion (talk) 17:33, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
Kerry Committee
If you have no objections, would you be able to move Kerry Committee report to Kerry Committee? I have reformatted the article to be more in line with Church Committee. If you think this needs further discussion elsewhere, let me know! Thanks! -Location (talk) 00:34, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Neither one of those titles is protected - is there something that is preventing you from doing it? Acroterion (talk) 00:38, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- I didn't think I could move over an established redirect. I will give it a go. Thanks! -Location (talk) 00:40, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure you can - give it a try. Acroterion (talk) 00:43, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- It worked! I guess I'm still pretty new here. Cheers! -Location (talk) 01:09, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- Or pretty old - I think it was an adjustment to cut down on the number of administrative move requests, and hasn't always been that way. Acroterion (talk) 01:10, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- It worked! I guess I'm still pretty new here. Cheers! -Location (talk) 01:09, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure you can - give it a try. Acroterion (talk) 00:43, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
- I didn't think I could move over an established redirect. I will give it a go. Thanks! -Location (talk) 00:40, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Disruptive User
I've noticed disruptive blatantly POV edits from User:Jadamondo. Examples [1], [2], [3].
I've reported this to WP:AIV, but I'm not sure if I did this right or if that was the right place as I've never reported anyone before. In any case I thought I would also advise you I saw you've been involved with this user before. Tomorrow and tomorrow (talk) 06:31, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- Actually I can provide citations and news articles if you would like? You are a disruptive deleter. Jadamondo (talk) 06:33, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
- No, you must provide citations, and you must refrain from editorial commentary in articles. Please stop and abide by Wikipedia policy. Acroterion (talk) 11:05, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
You've got mail
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RevDel
It looks like this may qualify for a RevDel. Thanks! DonIago (talk) 04:42, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
DYK for Ron Labinski
On 27 March 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ron Labinski, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ron Labinski has been described as the world's first sports-venue architect? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ron Labinski. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ron Labinski), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Aoidh (talk) 00:03, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
Death toll
Saying 2,763 people were killed in the “crashes, fires and subsequent collapses” is wrong. Several of the 147 passengers and crew aboard the two hijacked flights were murdered prior to them crashing; they can’t be said to have been killed when the planes crashed. Hmm1994 (talk) 19:17, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
- Then add "hijackings," because there is no way of knowing how many were killed prior to the crashes. Acroterion (talk) 00:07, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
Please act in good faith
The professor is currently suspended for inflammatory speech. The article should reflect that. 47.200.110.84 (talk) 12:14, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
- That's not the same as being fired. You need sources to say he was (which your "was" implied), and it would be nice if you didn't treat insistence on following policy as an act of bad faith. Acroterion (talk) 12:18, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
You protected this page in July 2017 due to persistent disruptive editing. There has been only one edit since. Do you believe that continued protection of the talk page is warranted? 67.180.143.89 (talk) 00:59, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
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UK Kennedy/Lincoln/Titanic IP
In Ike Altgens, I noticed that there have been various IPs that have attempted to add material cited to one particular conspiracy book, and I noticed that ScottishFinnishRadish has blocked most of those IPs for disruptive editing. I followed one of the not-blocked IPs to this discussion and saw another discussion a few sections down in which Binksternet pointed out that we were dealing with another manifestation of "UK Kennedy/Lincoln/Titanic IP". Due to the similarity of the edits in Ike Altgens, I suspect that the IP I reverted with this edit is also "UK Kennedy/Lincoln/Titanic IP". I'm not sure if anything needs to be done, but I thought I would bring it to your attention. Cheers! -Location (talk) 15:49, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- I agree the IPs at the Altgens bio are all the same long-term vandal. They keep trying to insert conspiracy ideas cited to the garbage book Prayer Man: The Exoneration of Lee Harvey Oswald by Stan Dane, published by the tin-foil peddlers Martian Publishing. Abso nonsense. Binksternet (talk) 16:24, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
- I think it's probably them. They've been quiet in recent years, or haven't haunted the places they used to frequent. They've also moved from the Southeast, if the geolocation is to be believed. I generally block their IPs for a month. Acroterion (talk) 01:14, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – April 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2023).
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- A community RfC is open to discuss whether reports primarily involving gender-related disputes or controversies should be referred to the Arbitration enforcement noticeboard.
- Some older web browsers will not be able to use JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis starting this week. This mainly affects users of Internet Explorer 11. (T178356)
- The rollback of Vector 2022 RfC has found no consensus to rollback to Vector legacy, but has found rough consensus to disable "limited width" mode by default.
- A link to the user's Special:CentralAuth page will now appear in the subtitle links shown on Special:Contributions. This was voted #17 in the Community Wishlist Survey 2023.
- The Armenia-Azerbaijan 3 case has been closed.
- A case about World War II and the history of Jews in Poland has been opened, with the first evidence phase closing 6 April 2023.
Readyville
I linked four different sources from local media, including videos and published reports, along a photo that I myself took, that the mill was destroyed and not simply damaged. I suggest taking a look at those sources in the previous edit. Jasonlong1212 (talk) 12:59, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
- I know that, but the concerns go farther into general commentary and extensive detail not suitable for encyclopedia summary style. It's only 24 hours and limited to the articles noted, please work with other editors to work out an appropriate level of sourcing and detail. Acroterion (talk) 16:48, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Following the indef you gave and Bishonen's page block, a brand new user has just turned up making the same arguments. Seems WP:DUCK to me, but do I need to do an SPI? DeCausa (talk) 20:27, 5 April 2023 (UTC)