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Older nominations
Articles created/expanded on October 23
Khedivate of Egypt
- ... that Muhammad Ali, unofficial ruler of the Egyptian khedivate, was a de jure Ottoman governor, but invaded other Ottoman lands?
*ALT1:... that the khedivate of Egypt was abolished in 1914 when Khedive Abbas II sided with the Central Powers in World War I?*ALT2:... that the Khedivate of Egypt was a de facto state as early as 1805, but its ruler was only recognized as a khedive in 1867?
5x expanded by User:DCI2026 (talk page). Nominated by DCI2026 (talk page) at 18:15, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- I significantly expanded an older, small stub article into a larger page. Is it still eligible for DYK?DCI2026 (talk) 18:20, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, that would go in the category of a "5x expansion" which can qualify for DYK. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 16:11, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- 5X expansion checks out. However, refs from hook have bare URL's and need to be properly attributed. To get rid of bare URL's, use the cite templates at WP:CITET The Interior(Talk) 22:41, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- Pretty sure Muhammad Ali shouldn't link to the boxing champion, either in the suggested hook or the article... (I think it should be Muhammad Ali.) Sideways713 (talk) 16:16, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Fixed that and a couple other linking problems myself... Sideways713 (talk) 18:28, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Article relies heavily on Nations Encyclopedia. Does anyone have experience with this source? Is it RS? The Interior(Talk) 19:38, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- I'm concerned about adding this to the queue when there are merge possibility notices at the top of the page. Paralympiakos (talk) 13:25, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- It appears those notices were placed by the nominator himself, for reasons that to me appear totally unclear, and so far the only talk page indication they even exist is a single Oppose vote at Talk:Khedivate of Egypt. Sideways713 (talk) 14:11, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Your call then, Sideways. Paralympiakos (talk) 14:23, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- My call? Well, I guess we could just remove the merge templates, and the main hook about Muhammad Ali invading other Ottoman lands is certainly hooky, but as of now I'd have to say no and we're running out of time. For a long-time Wikipedian with many DYKs to his name the nominator is highly slapdash about references (and wikilinks). You know what I'm talking about - just dropping URLs and calling them references, and linking to a boxing champ instead of a self-proclaimed khedive... I just did some cleaning up, but with both the main hook (my definite #1 choice) and ALT2 lacking any references I can see, and ALT1 citing a Wikipedia mirror of all things, it still has to be a no. Sideways713 (talk) 16:44, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, I've had the chance to take a proper look at this. The errors have been solved, but as you rightly say, ALT 1 and 2 are unacceptable for those reasons. I wouldn't be tempted to give this longer than a couple of days before it is consigned to failure. Paralympiakos (talk) 14:35, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Sounds like ALT1 and ALT2 are out, so I've struck them. Are there any problems with the original hook now that Sideways713 has cleaned up the article? 28bytes (talk) 02:10, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- It's not cited either, as far as I can see. Egyptian–Ottoman War (1831–1833) does have one ref [1] that could do the job if it's RS. That website says This website contains the on-line versions of books previously published in hard copy by the Federal Research Division of the Library of Congress as part of the Country Studies/Area Handbook Series sponsored by the U.S. Department of the Army between 1986 and 1998. (Sounds reliable-ish, what do you think?) Another website [2], already used as a source in the Khedivate of Egypt article, is based on exactly the same books apparently. Sideways713 (talk) 09:28, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- I wouldn't worry about the merge templates, it's clearly a standalone article. While I love the wordplay inherent in using MA, it's pretty debatable whether you can call Egypt a khedivate before the official granting of the title in 1867 - the Cambridge History of Egypt avoids the term in relation to MA's reign even if they were de facto independent. So unless you focus on MA's relationship to Isma'il Pasha, it might be better to concentrate on the later period. Something like the state bankruptcy of 1875-6 would have many modern resonances, although it's not mentioned in the current article. Most of the Cambridge History of Egypt is available via Google Books, so there's no need to mess about with dodgy websites for references when a gold-plated source like that is available (and more generally, the Khedivate is pretty well covered on Google Books). Le Deluge (talk) 12:18, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- Sounds like ALT1 and ALT2 are out, so I've struck them. Are there any problems with the original hook now that Sideways713 has cleaned up the article? 28bytes (talk) 02:10, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- I'm concerned about adding this to the queue when there are merge possibility notices at the top of the page. Paralympiakos (talk) 13:25, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- I significantly expanded an older, small stub article into a larger page. Is it still eligible for DYK?DCI2026 (talk) 18:20, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
- That should make a much better source.
As long as Muhammad Ali and his actions in the Egyptian-Ottoman War are within the scope of this article (which they are), I don't see any problems with using them in the hook (as long as the wording is appropriate), though obviously if you're going to add other interesting stuff into the article, all the better! Sideways713 (talk) 17:54, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- Well that's the point - are they in scope? At best it seems to be a point of controversy whether MA did declare himself a khedive, so there's a good argument for this particular article only starting at 1867, before that we could have an article on the Pashaluk of Egypt or something similar, as that was the official Ottoman term. OTOH, I've now discovered the History of Egypt under the Muhammad Ali dynasty which covers the same ground in rather more depth, so I've proposed a new merger there. I don't know where people want to go with this one, along with History of Ottoman Egypt they could all do with a copyedit. It's a really interesting area, but I've got a zillion other things on my to-do list - I may have time for the Ottoman empire in 2013 or so... Given their contributions here I suggest that should this ever get to DYK (and it's not looking good, I'll admit), then Sideways713 should get some credit - conversely I'm not sure whether User:DCI2026 deserves any credit, their net contribution isn't looking much by the time you allow for all the work they've created for others. Going back to the original hook, MA was an official ruler, it was the khedivate that was unofficial - or non-existent, depending on your source. Time is ticking however... Le Deluge (talk) 20:59, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 25
Venues of the 1956 Summer Olympics
[[File:MCG stadium.jpg|100x100px|right]]
- ... that the Melbourne Cricket Ground
(pictured)was theonlyvenue of the 1956 Summer Olympics to be used as a venue of the 2000 Summer Olympics?
Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 15:07, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, it was used in 2000, but I'm not seeing how it was the only venue left over from '56. Paralympiakos (talk) 13:23, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Paralympiakos, as an Australian living in Sydney when the 2000 Olympics were on, I can confirm the accuracy of the hook without looking at the article. Venues are chosen that are close to the Olympic Village, and the 2000 Olympics was almost all in and around the Sydney metropolitan area. The MCG (main stadium for the '56 Olympics) is nearly 1000 km away in Melbourne; it was used for some of the team sport events where games were spread around the country. Also, most of the Sydney venues were custom built (or re-built / expanded). Now, you are of course correct to challenge the hook / nomination if the references do not support it, but I don't think you need to worry about whether it is accurate or not. EdChem (talk) 13:29, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Page 393 of the pdf says that the venue was "Sydney Olympic Park" - would that be this? I'm willing to accept on good faith; it's just that I don't want a telling off if this is somehow wrong. Paralympiakos (talk) 13:34, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- No. Sydney Olympic Park was the precinct area that included the Main Stadium, Swimming Centre, Super Dome, Tennis Centre, etc... I attended a baseball game there at the Olympics, and several Paralympic events there. The MCG was used from some of the preliminary football matches, as were venues in Brisbane, Adelaide, and Canberra. EdChem (talk) 13:40, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Ed, could you possibly check out this source then. If I'm correct, it's supposed to link to page 393 of the pdf. I went there and saw no mention of the Cricket Ground. P.S. no idea why I asked whether a place in Sydney was the same as one in Melbourne. We'll attribute that to fatigue. Paralympiakos (talk) 13:43, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- The reference (correctly) means page 393 of the book, which is page 395 of the pdf, so you can decide now. Note that the article's referencing needs work. This is a book, it has an ISBN, and it should not be cited as it is. The same comment (I suspect) applies to other references in the article as well. EdChem (talk) 14:24, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Ed, could you possibly check out this source then. If I'm correct, it's supposed to link to page 393 of the pdf. I went there and saw no mention of the Cricket Ground. P.S. no idea why I asked whether a place in Sydney was the same as one in Melbourne. We'll attribute that to fatigue. Paralympiakos (talk) 13:43, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- No. Sydney Olympic Park was the precinct area that included the Main Stadium, Swimming Centre, Super Dome, Tennis Centre, etc... I attended a baseball game there at the Olympics, and several Paralympic events there. The MCG was used from some of the preliminary football matches, as were venues in Brisbane, Adelaide, and Canberra. EdChem (talk) 13:40, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Page 393 of the pdf says that the venue was "Sydney Olympic Park" - would that be this? I'm willing to accept on good faith; it's just that I don't want a telling off if this is somehow wrong. Paralympiakos (talk) 13:34, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- I note that a picture has just been added to this nomination. I consider this picture inappropriate, as it shows the MCG as a cricket ground for the 1992 World Cup. A suitable picture would show the '56 Olympic Games configuration, or the 2000 configuration when football preliminaries were in progress. Cricket really has no connection to the Olympics. EdChem (talk) 13:44, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- "Cricket really has no connection to the Olympics." Exactly. I'm after the irony.
- ALT:... that the Melbourne Cricket Ground (pictured) was the
onlyvenue of the 1956 Summer Olympics to be used as a venue of the 2000 Summer Olympics, even though cricket was not played in either Olympics?
- The name of the place is "Melbourne Cricket Ground," anyways. --174.89.163.171 (talk) 07:35, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that the Melbourne Cricket Ground (pictured) was a venue of the 1956 Summer Olympics and also the 2000 Summer Olympics, even though cricket was not played in either Olympics?
- Almost there. Neither the article nor the sources support the idea that it was the only Olympics venue used both times, but there's good support for the fact that it was used both times. Accordingly I trimmed the ALT hook to create ALT2. The fact that cricket was not played in either Olympics is what makes it interesting, but that's not explicitly stated in the article. Lengths and dates are good. If the fact that cricket is not an Olympic game can be woven into the article (and sourced), this will be good to go. --Orlady (talk) 14:51, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- The 2000 Summer Olympics official report stated that the Cricket Ground was used and did mention the 1956 Games in that. It was also listed in the Melbourne Cricket Grounds website. I would take the cricket part since it was not mentioned in either official report. Chris (talk) 20:27, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- Almost there. Neither the article nor the sources support the idea that it was the only Olympics venue used both times, but there's good support for the fact that it was used both times. Accordingly I trimmed the ALT hook to create ALT2. The fact that cricket was not played in either Olympics is what makes it interesting, but that's not explicitly stated in the article. Lengths and dates are good. If the fact that cricket is not an Olympic game can be woven into the article (and sourced), this will be good to go. --Orlady (talk) 14:51, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Laxton's Superb (apple)
- ... that Laxton's Superb is an apple species crossed between the Wyken Pippin × Cox's Orange Pippin by the Victorian plant breeder Thomas Laxton in 1897 in the town of Bedford, England?
Created by Bankhallbretherton (talk). Self nom at 21:21, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- I have added to the article to bump up the character count, is this now sufficient? I have added more relevant information for the species and the growing and how it supports bees. Bankhallbretherton (talk) 23:03, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, but there are a couple of problems still. A) The hook isn't particularly interesting, even to be as someone interested in botany. B) Refs 4-7 are sites selling the trees, and are not reliable sources. SmartSE (talk) 21:11, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Paul Stagg, Amos Alonzo Stagg, Jr.
- ... that legendary college football coach Amos Alonzo Stagg had two sons, Amos, Jr. and Paul, who both played quarterback for him at the University of Chicago and each went on to become football coaches themselves, leading teams against one another at Moravian College and Susquehanna University in 1935 and 1936?
Created by Jweiss11 (talk). Self nom at 11:11, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Both articles are below the 1500 character minimum.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 08:45, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- I'd like to see a source for "legendary" – I can't find one in any of the (three) biographical articles linked in the hook. matt (talk) 08:48, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- How about "Hall of Fame" (i.e. College Football Hall of Fame and Basketball Hall of Fame) instead of "legendary". Jweiss11 (talk) 08:44, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- The Paul article is now long enough, but the Amos Alonzo Jr. article still is not. It shouldn't be hard to resolve that -- for example, there's plenty more good material in this cited source.
- As for Stagg, Sr., he is the subject of legend, but alternate wording might be appropriate. I suggest the following alternate hook wording:
- ALT1: ... that the two sons of pioneering college football coach Amos Alonzo Stagg, Amos, Jr. and Paul, both played quarterback for their father at the University of Chicago and became college coaches themselves, twice leading teams against each other? --Orlady (talk) 03:01, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that the two sons of pioneering college football coach Amos Alonzo Stagg, Amos, Jr. and Paul, both played quarterback for their father at the University of Chicago, and later led teams against each other as college coaches themselves? --174.89.163.171 (talk) 13:42, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 26
Hemmema, Turuma, Pojama, Udema, archipelago fleet, Fredrik Henrik af Chapman
- ... that the hemmema, the turuma, the pojama and the udema were four types of warships designed by naval architect Fredrik Henrik Chapman (pictured) for the Swedish Archipelago Fleet in the 18th century?
(alt.hook1):... that the hemmema, the turuma, the pojama and the udema, four types of warships in the Swedish Archipelago Fleet built in the 18th century, were named after places in Finland?
- (alt.hook2, 6-in-1):... that the hemmema, turuma, pojama and udema, four types of warships designed by naval architect Fredrik Henrik af Chapman (pictured) for the Swedish archipelago fleet in the 18th century, were named after provinces in Finland?
Created / Expanded by Peter Isotalo (talk) & MoRsE (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 11:03, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: [1] Does anyone want to quickly expand Chapman's wikibio to make a sextuple-DYK hook? [2] I'm hiding "af" in Chapman's name because I ain't sure if he had that 'af' added yet at the time these warships were built. --PFHLai (talk) 11:03, 28 October 2010 (UTC) [3] I have asked the authors for more footnotes. Hope this helps. --PFHLai (talk) 23:36, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- This is an historical person, so that he wasn't yet ennobled when he designed those ships is irrelevant. All the references are to past events, and as such WP:COMMONNAME should be adhered to. It might be relevant to change forms in the article itself, but in a mainpage blurb it seems merely confusing.
- I'll see what I can do about expanding the bio, but doubling the size will require some effort, though I believe the hook should contain a link to Chapman even if it's not bolded.
- Peter Isotalo 16:27, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Fredrik Henrik af Chapman is now 5x-expanded. Thank you. I have put in the new {DYKmake} templates, and a long 6-in-1 hook with Chaman's fullname. --PFHLai (talk) 11:43, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Archipelago Fleet#History and Fredrik Henrik af Chapman#Architectura Navalis Mercatoria could use some footnotes. Otherwise, this sextuple-DYK looks ready. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 11:49, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- I changed "Archipelago Fleet" to lower case letters since I can't fin support for capitalization in the literature. The usage varies slightly (Harris even uses "Inshore Fleet"), but there's not that much support that the most common term used for this branch of the military is something officially used during its existence. It appear to be more a descriptive name of convenience used by later historians. I've actually even had trouble finding concrete contemporary references to the official name.
- Peter Isotalo 16:31, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Just thought I'd add a suggestion for an alternative picture which is slightly more colorful. It's of the battle of Svensksund, where all four ship types participated. It's also the most acclaimed wartime achievement of the archipelago fleeet and the greatest Swedish naval victory in history.
- Peter Isotalo 16:57, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Blair-Dunning House
- ... that the Blair-Dunning House (pictured) in Bloomington was owned by three different Indiana state representatives?
Created by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 21:53, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that the Blair-Dunning House (pictured) in Bloomington was the home of the only politician to hold every elected legislative and executive office in Indiana's government? Nyttend (talk) 21:56, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 27
Obesity in the Middle East and North Africa
- ... that 22 of every 100 Kuwaiti children have developed diabetes as a result of an unhealthy weight?
Created by User:Cannondale0702 (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 23:59, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- The hook fact depends on an offline source, so I can't verify it. I have trouble accepting that it is correct -- it would be extraordinary for 22% of children to have diabetes, so I suspect there might be a subtle misinterpretation. There are plenty of surprising facts in the article, though. I suggest an alternate hook, such as:
- ALT1: ... that 30% of the population in the Arab world is classified as overweight or obese, including 80% of adult women in Kuwait? --Orlady (talk) 17:07, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- Length and sourcing for article and both hooks has been confirmed. ALT1 seems a bit more interesting. Alansohn (talk) 17:36, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- After taking another look at the article after I approved it, I was curious to see how Israel compared to Kuwait and some of the other countries in the Mideast and noticed that there is no data provided. Should this be added or should the article's title be changed to say Obesity in the Arab World, which is already a subhead in the article? Any thoughts on this from other editors? Alansohn (talk) 17:43, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- Good point! If the article has a geographic scope (as the title indicates), Israel should be added to it, and probably also Turkey. If it's about the Arab World, as a major article heading indicates, then the exclusion of Israel is OK, but Iran should not be included. I have another idea: Retitle the article to Obesity in Islamic areas of the Middle East and North Africa. That title would fit the current scope. --Orlady (talk) 20:12, 4 November 2010 (UTC) Following up, it appears that the article's author is a student involved in Wikipedia:WikiProject United States Public Policy/Courses/Introduction to Study of Arab World fall 2010. The author's original working title was Obesity in the Arab World, but on the article talk page the author explains that "Arab World" was rejected because Iran is not included in that term, and "Muslim World" would not work because that term ought to encompass places like Ghana, Indonesia, and Pakistan. I've posted on the author's talk page to see if s/he has opinions on my suggested title. --Orlady (talk) 03:17, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Newton, Derbyshire
- ... that although there are 87 places in England that are called Newton there is only one that is called Newton in Derbyshire?
5x expanded by Davebevis (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 22:31, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not sure this is a great hook, as it's so unusual to have two places of the same name in one English county, it would be so confusing. Where nothing is added for differentiation, you would surely expect there to be only one place in a county called Newton. Moonraker2 (talk) 01:20, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Open to suggestions for a better hook Victuallers (talk) 13:48, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- ... that the George & Dragon pub (present building pictured) at Newton, Derbyshire, was recorded in 1577?
- Comment: Suggestion for new hook by Moonraker2 - thx m2 Victuallers (talk) 17:05, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
5x expanded by Davebevis (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 02:41, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Sir Haydn (locomotive), Edward Thomas (locomotive)
- ... that Talyllyn Railway locomotives No. 3 Sir Haydn and No. 4 Edward Thomas both hold the unusual distinction of carrying the same number through the ownership of four different railway companies?
Created by Peterjhw07 (talk). 5x expanded and nominated by Tivedshambo (talk) at 22:06, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Talyllyn Railway locomotives No. 3 Sir Haydn and No. 4 Edward Thomas both hold the unusual distinction of carrying the same number through the ownership of four different railway companies? (Suggested by User:Mjroots) — Tivedshambo (t/c) 17:32, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Heli-Sport CH-7, Augusto Cicaré
- ... that the cabin of the Heli-Sport CH-7 (pictured) was designed by the creator of the Lamborghini Countach, while the helicopter's frame is the work of one of Argentina's foremost inventors?
Created by TSRL (talk), The Bushranger (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 22:41, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Sempronius Stretton
- ... that Sempronius Stretton, who sketched people in early Canada (pictured) was painted at the Duke of Wellington's annual banquet celebrating their victory at Waterloo?
Created/expanded by Andrewrabbott (talk), Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 10:20, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Sempronius Stretton is credited with producing some of the earliest images of Toronto? Andrewrabbott (talk) 15:36, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Made the first nom into a double using William Salter (artist) expansion Victuallers (talk) 09:01, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Polly Rosenbaum
- ... that Arizona's longest-serving state legislator, Polly Rosenbaum, left the Arizona House at age 95 after 45 years because she didn't get re-elected?
Created by Orlady (talk). Self nom at 03:17, 28 October 2010 (UTC) Three more candidate hooks:
- ALT1: ... that Polly Rosenbaum's accomplishments in the Arizona state legislature included eliminating spittoons and miniskirted pages from the state House of Representatives?
- ALT2: ... that two state government buildings in Phoenix, Arizona, are named for Polly Rosenbaum?
- ALT3: ... that Arizona state legislator Polly Rosenbaum worked to rid the state constitution of language that discriminated against women, but voted against the Equal Rights Amendment to the U.S. Constitution? --Orlady (talk) 03:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
--Orlady (talk) 03:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- ALT4: ... that Polly Rosenbaum's accomplishments in her 45 years in Arizona's state legislature included eliminating spittoons and miniskirted pages from the state House of Representatives? (a subtle rewording) DS (talk) 13:11, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the suggestion! I would have linked "pages" to an appropriate article, if one existed. Unfortunately, DragonflySixtyseven's link isn't quite right for this purpose. The lengthy article United States House of Representatives Page is exclusively about pages in the federal legislature in Washington, DC. The pages in legislatures in individual U.S. states have no association with the Congressional page program. The disambiguation page called "page" is the closest thing I have found to an article about pages in U.S. state legislatures; I linked to it in the article, but I don't think a DYK hook should link to a disambiguation page. --Orlady (talk) 20:27, 30 October 2010 (UTC) Update: I've beefed up Page (servant)#Legislative pages and linked to it in both my version of the "pages" hook and Dragonfly's enhanced version of that hook. :-) --Orlady (talk) 15:52, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Applebay Zuni
- ... that in 1982 the pilot of a Applebay Zuni II glider earned eight FAI gliding badges (Gold badge pictured) in a single flight?
Created by Petebutt (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 23:31, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Could be reading it wrong, but it seems as though the source says that the pilot claims the 8, not that it is a fact. Could you elaborate on this, to put my mind at rest? Paralympiakos (talk) 14:16, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Well, the 8 badges were awarded - they're not claimed, they're actually given out. And that number of badges in a single flight had never been done before. "Claimed" is used as a synonym for "achieved", I think, here. - The Bushranger Return fireFlank speed 22:23, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Clio Awards
- ... that the 1991 Clio Awards presentation is known as "The Most Bizarre Event in Advertising History"?
- ALT1:... that the Clio Awards, which celebrated 50 years in 2009, have been described as the Academy Awards of the Advertising Industry?
5x expanded by Mgreason (talk). Self nom at 20:19, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- I'd suggest rewording ALT1 to "...have been described as the Academy Awards of the Advertising Industry", as (unless I'm mistaken from quickly scanning through the reference) they're not in any way connected. matt (talk) 21:20, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2: that after the debacle of the 1991 Clio Awards presentation, during which a crowd of attendees stormed the stage and grabbed award statuettes, the 1992 Awards had less than 1/4 the number of entries as the 1990 awards? DS (talk) 14:43, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- What do you say about the style of the Clio Awards#1991 section, is that encyclopedic? Also, the small paragraph starting with The event for TV commercials, scheduled a few days later too closely paraphrases the source. --Pgallert (talk) 09:05, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Solungen
- ... that after the newspaper Solungen was merged into Glommendalens Social-Demokrat from 1915, the successor of the latter newspaper legally blocked the use of the newspaper name Avisa Solungen in 2008?
5x expanded by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 11:50, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 28
Paradestraße (Berlin U-Bahn)
- ... that that 2 Berlin U-Bahn stations have been called Flughafen (airport), Platz der Luftbrücke and Paradestraße, because Hitler wanted the entrance to Tempelhof Airport moved?
5x expanded by Yngvadottir (talk). Self nom at 17:38, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
NSB B5
- ... that asbestos found in B5 coaches during renovation has caused an arbitral tribunal between the Norwegian State Railways and Bombardier Transportation?
Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 10:45, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Nor clear here what is meant by 'an arbitration', it sounds like a legal process but shouldn't be if it is truly arbitration, perhaps 'legal dispute' would be better. I linked coaches to Passenger car (rail)#Coach for clarity. Mikenorton (talk) 14:11, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
De-Ba'athification
- ... that the controversial Iraq De-Ba'athification policy banned anyone affiliated with the Ba'ath Party from working in the public sector?
Created by Amfarr21 (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 22:45, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Martha Lipton
- ... that mezzo-soprano opera singer Martha Lipton appeared 401 times during her career at the Metropolitan Opera?
- ALT-1: ... that mezzo-soprano opera singer Martha Lipton performed 401 times at the Metropolitan Opera?
Created by Dylanfromthenorth (talk). Nominated by Redfarmer (talk) at 17:50, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- Two suggested changes: replace "appeared" with "performed", and get rid of "during her career". Clarityfiend (talk) 04:20, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Liu Tianyou
- ... that Chinese sport shooter Liu Tianyou won his first gold medal at the Men's 10 m Air Rifle event in the 2006 Asian Games, the same year that China dominated the Games, winning 16 out of 20 gold medals on the first official day of competition?
Created by User:Hongkongresdient (talk). Self nom at 10:29, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Film studies
- ... that film studies are less concerned with filmmaking than with exploring the narrative, artistic, cultural, economic, and political implications of the cinema?
5x expanded by Joko123nm (talk). Self nom at 03:04, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Character count does not show 5X expansion of prose. Count on Oct 19 = 2625 Current character count = 5645 Required for 5X = 13, 125. The Interior(Talk) 02:38, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Please count from the revision of Oct 10, when the creator started to expand the article. I see about 10X expansion from that period. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 18:19, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Unfortunately I can't. DYK eligibility requires 5x expansion in the last five days. Sorry. The Interior(Talk) 18:43, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Please see the subsequent discussion here and here. This being the first article of a new editor, I'd ask for the bureaucratic rules to be waved a little, in a spirit of rewarding newcomers and encouraging them to contribute more to the project. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 16:13, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
1855 Ansei Edo earthquake
- ... that in the aftermath of the 1855 Ansei Edo earthquake large numbers of prints were produced depicting the mythological giant catfish Namazu (example pictured)?
5x expanded by Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 19:53, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Cylindrocline lorencei
- ... that after Cylindrocline lorencei became extinct, and the only surviving seeds would not germinate, the plant was brought back from extinction through in vitro culture of part of the seed embryo?
Created by First Light (talk). Self nom at 18:21, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Note: the hook is referenced in article footnotes #2 (in French) and #3 (9 Mb .pdf). First Light (talk) 18:25, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- The article and date check out. There is only one minor issue that I can see: "saved" is not the best word here, as it implies the species was not already extinct. Perhaps "brought back" or some variation thereof would be better? Intelligentsium 23:08, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, I changed it to "brought back" - good suggestion. First Light (talk) 23:38, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- If it could be brought back, it wasn't extinct. Perhaps say "extinct in the wild"? Ucucha 12:49, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- The French source states that the plant was considered extinct in culture (i.e., in gardens and such) and in nature since 1990 (original: "La plante fut donc considérée comme éteinte en culture et en nature dès 1990"). Source 1 confirms this: "[U.S. botanist David H. Lorence] noted that there was only one plant [of this species] in the Plaine Champagne ... However, Wendy Strahm noted in 1996 that the plant had since died: the species at that point would be recorded as Extinct." The plant was brought back not from surviving seeds but tissues found within them (the seeds themselves were not viable). As the last individual had died the plant was extinct, unless you would count the tissues (under which definition other species currently considered "extinct" might only be "extinct in the wild"). Intelligentsium 15:41, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that after the only known Cylindrocline lorencei died and its seeds would not germinate, botanists saved the plant from extinction through the in vitro culture of part of the seed embryo? DS (talk) 14:26, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- This depends on how exactly one defines "extinct", I guess. Your sources confirm that it was indeed considered "extinct", but I think DS's alt is clearer in that it avoids issues with the definition. Ucucha 15:54, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, DS's is more precise and clear, but it would be good to somehow add that the plant was "considered extinct"—whether "in the wild" by Kew, or "en culture et en nature" (in culture and in nature) by Brest. I fully realize how tricky this hook is, but it would be nice to convey the full impact of something that is quite extraordinary, in spite of the short time span between "dead species"-->"no viable seeds"-->"extinct"-->"laboratory brings back to life". First Light (talk) 00:03, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I think this was the first time something like this ever happened (and has it ever happened since?), and thus more precise terminology doesn't exist. DS (talk) 11:32, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- I think that's right. Added to that is the difficulty in explaining all of the nuance in a short hook. Here's one more try, slightly tweaking your ALT1 (either way, I think that saved the "species" is better than "plant"):
- Well, I think this was the first time something like this ever happened (and has it ever happened since?), and thus more precise terminology doesn't exist. DS (talk) 11:32, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, DS's is more precise and clear, but it would be good to somehow add that the plant was "considered extinct"—whether "in the wild" by Kew, or "en culture et en nature" (in culture and in nature) by Brest. I fully realize how tricky this hook is, but it would be nice to convey the full impact of something that is quite extraordinary, in spite of the short time span between "dead species"-->"no viable seeds"-->"extinct"-->"laboratory brings back to life". First Light (talk) 00:03, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- This depends on how exactly one defines "extinct", I guess. Your sources confirm that it was indeed considered "extinct", but I think DS's alt is clearer in that it avoids issues with the definition. Ucucha 15:54, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that when the only known Cylindrocline lorencei died and its seeds would not germinate it was considered extinct—until botanists saved the species through the in vitro culture of part of the seed embryo? First Light (talk) 15:24, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2, counting "that" and the question mark is 203 characters (the limit is supposed to be 200). I suppose we could remove the "the" before in vitro, or ask for some leeway if it's the best one. First Light (talk) 15:31, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- How about this (ALT3):
- ... that when the only known Cylindrocline lorencei died and its seeds would not germinate, it was considered extinct—but it was saved through in vitro culture of part of the embryo?
- Ucucha 18:38, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- Looks great - adding "seed" before "embryo" for non-botanists would be helpful, but it would also be fine as is. First Light (talk) 19:49, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Prince Friedrich Christian of Schaumburg-Lippe
- ... that Prince Friedrich Christian of Schaumburg-Lippe served as an adjutant to Joseph Goebbels in the Nazi Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda?
Created by Ruby2010 (talk) 17:40, 28 October 2010 (UTC) (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that in 1939, three Icelandic Nazi-sympathizers approached Prince Friedrich Christian of Schaumburg-Lippe with the hope he would be made king of Iceland?
- Adjutant says that it is a military rank, would aide be more appropriate? Also the article uses 'privy councillor', but our Geheimrat article says that this title disappeared after 1919. Mikenorton (talk) 14:28, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- The source Royals and the Reich (p. 137) says the prince was adjutant to Goebbels, with no mention of military rank. That same source also says he was a 'privy councillor'. If you have the appropriate source, feel free to add mention that adjutant would have been a military rank, but I think further verification would be needed if you were to mention anymore about the title disappearing in 1919. Thanks, Ruby2010 (talk) 04:25, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Lorne Kusugak
- ... that Member of the Legislative Assembly of Nunavut Lorne Kusugak was a founding director of the Inuit Broadcasting Corporation, a television network broadcasting programs almost entirely in Inuktitut?
5x expanded by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 16:00, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Azeline Hearne
- ... that freed slave Azeline Hearne was the first freedwoman to be party to three separate civil suits that were appealed all the way to the Texas Supreme Court?
Created by Redfarmer (talk). Self nom at 11:47, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Not even close to meeting the length test. - PM800 (talk) 19:48, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- I'd say the same thing, but I don't think this is a lost cause. Article would be an interesting DYK but needs to be expanded to be eligible. See Wikipedia:DYK requirements. --La comadreja formerly AFriedman RESEARCH (talk) 00:13, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Not even close to meeting the length test. - PM800 (talk) 19:48, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- This is easily expandable as most of Baum's book is available on Google books, however, it is likely to remain a single-sourced article. Mikenorton (talk) 15:28, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Dan Sane
- ... that American Memphis and country blues guitarist and songwriter Dan Sane recorded with Frank Stokes, billed as the Beale Street Sheiks?
Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 10:04, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Kinan Azmeh
- ... that Syrian-born clarinetist Kinan Azmeh debuted a concerto written especially for him at the opening of the Damascus Opera House?
5x expanded by La comadreja formerly AFriedman RESEARCH (talk). Self nom at 01:56, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: Much of the space in the earlier article was taken up by lists. I expanded the prose portion from <300 characters to >1500 characters. --La comadreja formerly AFriedman RESEARCH (talk) 01:59, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: An IP editor repeatedly deletes the sourced information I added to this article. If article seems too short, please check history. --La comadreja formerly AFriedman RESEARCH (talk) 13:31, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Brent Weedman, Douglas Lima
- ... that Brent Weedman was brought in to a welterweight title fight by the AFL, who expected him to lose and "showcase" Douglas Lima's skills, but instead defeated Lima?
Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 01:30, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- If the wording is a little patchy, then please feel free to suggest an alternative way of phrasing the end of the hook. Thanks. Paralympiakos (talk) 01:31, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- How about "... that Douglas Lima was expected to showcase his skills with an easy victory over Brent Weedman in a mixed martial arts welterweight title fight, but lost?" Clarityfiend (talk) 10:22, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, I've just done a mild bit of linking and I'm happy with this. Thank you for the suggestion. Paralympiakos (talk) 11:37, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Venice (musical)
- ... that Time magazine called the Kansas City Repertory Theatre's world premiere of Venice the best musical of 2010?
Created by ESkog (talk). Self nom at 20:44, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- No it didn't, in the article it only mentions "the next major American musical", and the "year's best musical" quote appears to be the invention of a subeditor on the headline, it's not part of the main text. While quite eyecatching, the current hook is a bit WP:ADVERTy to my mind - properly the headline should be "the best musical of the year up until 14 May"!!! Le Deluge (talk) 22:42, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Aseroe coccinea
- ... that although the fungus Aseroe coccinea was formally described in 1989, its validation as a species was delayed until 2007 due to a naming error?
Created by Sasata (talk). Nominated by Rcej (talk) at 08:25, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Double Arches Pit
- ... that evidence of a Roman settlement has been discovered at Double Arches Pit, a disused sand quarry that is now a Site of Special Scientific Interest?
Created by Acather96 (talk). Self nom at 09:48, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- 'Sand mine' redirects to sand mining, which doesn't describe the quarrying of the Lower Greensand that went on in this pit I think, 'sandstone quarry' would be more accurate. Mikenorton (talk) 14:57, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- I would replace mine directly with quarry as it is described that way in some of the sources, but never as a mine I think. I've made that change both here and in the article. Mikenorton (talk) 18:42, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
List of medical eponyms with Nazi associations
- ... that the Clara cell, a medical eponym, had been researched using tissue from an executed Nazi prisoner?
5x expanded by Jclemens (talk). Self nom at 03:47, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Still a little shaky on this one. It's currently at AfD, although I expect it to survive, and I will probably be making substantial changes to the article for the next several days. Article will likely end up retitled, and I'm all ears about how to improve the hook, but nominating it now due to timing constraints. Jclemens (talk) 03:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Date of size increase and original hook check out, but there isn't enough readable prose - only 855 bytes according to User:Dr pda/prosesize.js. It seems like a good candidate to me nonetheless, as the quotes within the list give it heft. Is there an "additional rule" I've missed that could allow it to get through?
- If so, the hook seems to omit one of the more interesting facets of the topic, that these eponyms are gradually being replaced for ethical reasons - how about the following instead? --Avenue (talk) 02:20, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- ALT... that the Clara cell is one of several medical eponyms with Nazi associations that scholars have recommended be replaced?
- Duh, that hook makes much more sense. For lists, I believe the list entry text counts, although I can convert some of that from block quotes to prose if needed. It's still direct-quote-heavy from demonstrating improvement during AfD... :-) Jclemens (talk) 14:58, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- That's not my reading of the rules, but I'd be happy for it to qualify on that basis. Currently there isn't enough prose even counting the list entries, once direct quotes are excluded. --Avenue (talk) 21:46, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 29
Paddington Waterside
- ... that the redevelopment of the Paddington area of London was intended to be comparable in scale to Canary Wharf?
5x expanded by Le Deluge (talk). Self nom at 22:23, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that Paddington planned to insert the equivalent of 20 erotic gherkins?
- OK, the ALT is a bit naughty, but based on 10m sq ft at Paddington versus 500,000 sq ft at 30 St Mary Axe - it maybe catches the eye better for non-UK-readers, but the original hook, although drier, maybe works better for Britons, even many Londoners don't realise quite how ginormous the regeneration project is. ALT hooks welcomed, it's a fairly dry subject.Le Deluge (talk) 22:23, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Expansion and size check out.
- The ALT1 hook is fine; the sources don't explicitly make this comparison, but I think that's okay.
- The first hook seems like it could be a bit misleading. The cited source and our article compare the Paddington development to the original Canary Wharf development. I don't know if Canary Wharf has expanded much since, but if it has, this hook should probably be reworded.
- FWIW, this non-Briton prefers the ALT1 hook. I had heard of Canary Wharf before, but I didn't have any idea how big it was, and I suspect many readers will not even have heard of it. And IMO we should feature more playful hooks. --Avenue (talk) 00:18, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Harald Slåttelid, Bjarne Dalland
- ... that among the communists sentenced to death and executed in Norway during World War II were Harald Slåttelid and Bjarne Dalland?
Created by Geschichte (talk), Oceanh (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 20:23, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that both Harald Slåttelid and Bjarne Dalland, communists executed in WWII Norway, had already lost a family member in the war; Slåttelid a son and Dalland a brother? Geschichte (talk) 22:51, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Pawan River, Lamandau River
- ... that the Pawan River (pictured) and the Lamandau River both flow in the Indonesian part of Borneo?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 15:48, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Added an img-- N.V.V. Char Talk . 01:30, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- 'Kalimantan' is simply the Indonesian/Malay name for Borneo, so "Kalimantan in" can be left out. Alternatively, it could be "in the Indonesian part of Borneo". --Soman (talk) 04:17, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. Corrected as suggested.-- N.V.V. Char Talk . 10:18, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Jan Nepomuk Štěpánek
- ... that Czech poet Karel Hynek Mácha first appeared as an actor in Jan Nepomuk Štěpánek's play Czech and German in July 1832 in Benešov?
Created by Aloysius (talk). Self nom at 05:48, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Travel to Italy (Mácha)
- ... that in his 1834 Diary of Travel to Italy Czech national poet Karel Hynek Mácha describes his meeting with Slovenian national poet France Prešeren in Ljubljana?
Created by Aloysius (talk). Self nom at 05:36, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Cikáni
- ... that Karel Hynek Mácha's 1835 novel Cikáni celebrates the free lifestyle of gypsies?
Created by Aloysius (talk). Self nom at 05:20, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- I humbly ask to move this suggestion to Special Occasion area for 16 November to celebrate the 200th birth anniversary of Karel Hynek Mácha, Czech National poet - I have added four other articles relevant to this important day in the Czech Republic. Aloysius (talk) 05:27, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Let's have a multi-nom for Jan Nepomuk Štěpánek, Travel to Italy (Mácha) and Cikáni? — Toдor Boжinov — 12:23, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- I have done two others that are under 30 October nominations. Does multi-nom mean they all be in one question? I haven't heard of multi-nom. Thanks. Aloysius (talk) 06:56, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, it's short for a "multiple nomination" - having more than one DYK-eligible article mentioned in a single hook. They're good if you can get them, and the 200-character limit doesn't apply (within reason!). Be nice to have a picture of Mácha to go with the hook? Le Deluge (talk) 22:31, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- something like this (plus the image above)? (please check my English) multi-nom ALT1... that Czech national poet Karel Hynek Mácha (1810 - 1836) wrote two diaries? In 1832 Mácha started to act Czech theatre with a role in Jan Nepomuk Štěpánek's play Czech and German. He met Eleonora Šomková next year when she was asked to join the group of actors by Josef Kajetán Tyl. She became his mistress and fiancée. The Diary of 1835 concerns daily experiences and its cipher parts deal with relationship and sexual experiences with Lori as he called her. He died shortly after their son was born and the funeral took place in Litoměřice on the day of their intended wedding. The Diary of the Travel to Italy describes his hike to Venice, Trieste and Ljubljana where he met Slovenian national poet France Prešeren in 1834. The diaries are good source of psychological background for Mácha's masterpieces, dramtic poem Máj and novel Cikáni in which he celebrates the free lifestyle of gypsies. Aloysius (talk) 08:07, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- While allowances are made for hooks with multiple nomination being longer than 200 characters (see rule C3), this is much too long. Also hooks are generally a single sentence, although I can't find where it states that in the rules apart from the requirement for the first sentence to end with a question mark. Mikenorton (talk) 13:06, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- Then I would stick to the original versions. They are all about a bit different aspects of Mácha's life. And I don't know who is competent to move them to the Special Occasion section but I hope that they could be published on 16 November when it is 200 years from the poet's birth. Aloysius (talk) 18:37, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- I've had a go at combining them myself, see what you think. Mikenorton (talk) 19:35, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that Karel Hynek Mácha, author of the 1834 travel book Diary of the Travel to Italy and the 1835 novel Cikáni, got his first acting job, in Jan Nepomuk Štěpánek's drama Czech and German, in Benešov, where he later met his fiancée Eleonora Šomková?
- ALT2 ... that Czech national poet Karel Hynek Mácha, author of most notable poem Máj and novel Cikáni as well as the Diary of the Travel to Italy and the Diary of 1835 (the cipher parts of which deal with relationship and sexual experiences with his fiancée Lori), got his first acting job in Jan Nepomuk Štěpánek's drama Czech and German? Aloysius (talk) 06:23, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Liang Congjie
- ... that Liang Congjie established the Friends of Nature in 1994 as the first environmental non-governmental organization to be officially recognized by the government of the People's Republic of China?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Mudawana
- ... that the Mudawana is the only section of Moroccan law that relies primarily on Islamic sources rather than Spanish or French civil codes?
5x expanded by Amg0709 (talk). Nominated by Cryptic C62 (talk) at 21:22, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Fengguo Temple
- ... that DaXiongBao Hall of Fengguo Temple (pictured), first built in 1020, is one of the earliest example in Chinese architecture where bracket sets are used in between columns instead of simple struts?
Created by Zeus1234 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 12:45, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
National Democratic Party (Egypt)
- ... that in 1978, the National Democratic Party was created as the last step in Anwar El Sadat's four-phase program to introduce a multi-party system to Egypt?
5x expanded by Nerdpenguin (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 04:28, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Oscar Nilssen
- ... that Oscar Nilssen chaired the Labour Party branch in Hedmark for thirty-three years, from 1921 to 1954?
Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 09:54, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Henry E. Hardtner
- ... that Louisiana politician, conservationist, and timber magnate Henry E. Hardtner is known as "the father of forestry in the South"?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:44, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Power Snooker
- ... that Power Snooker (table illustrated) is a new fast-paced, time-limited version of snooker, inspired by Twenty20 cricket, which uses just nine red balls?
5x expanded by MickMacNee (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Eber Brock Ward
- ... that Eber Brock Ward (pictured) made the first Bessemer steel mill in the United States?
5x expanded by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 19:53, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Reference in article under section "Steel Manufacturing": In Henry Bessemer's autobiography he writes that the Bessemer process was first experimentally practised in the United States with a 3-ton converter, at the ironworks of Mr. E. B. Ward, at Wyandotte, near Detroit.
- Inline reference: Bessemer, chapter 21, The Bessemer process was first experimentally practised in this country with a 3-ton converter, at the ironworks of Mr. E. B. Ward, at Wyandotte, near Detroit, under the superintendence of Mr. L. M. Hart, who had learned the Bessemer process at the works of Messrs. Jackson, in France. . . . --Doug Coldwell talk 15:09, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Thomas Plucknett
- ... that Theodore Plucknett was the first ever chair of legal history at the London School of Economics?
Created by Panyd (talk). Self nom at 18:09, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
St Mary's Church, Brentingby
- ... that before the nave of St Mary's Church, Brentingby, Leicestershire, was partly demolished and converted into a house, the wall paintings were removed to a museum?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 16:24, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Falmouth Lifeboat station
- ... that the volunteer Royal National Lifeboat Institution crews at Falmouth Lifeboat Station (pictured) share their building with Her Majesty's Coastguard?
Created by Geof Sheppard (talk). Self nom at 16:06, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Laura Ross (politician)
- ... that Saskatchewanian politician Laura Ross was, at various times, a caterer, real estate agent and farmer before her entrance into politics?
5x expanded by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 16:01, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Manastir Mosque
- ... that the Manastır Mosque (pictured) in Istanbul is one of the few surviving Byzantine churches of Constantinople whose dedication remains uncertain?
Created by Alex2006 (talk) 15:30, 29 October 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 16:27, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Tory Christman
- ... that former Scientologist Tory Christman trained actor John Travolta in his initial Scientology coursework?
- Comment: Expanded over 5x, see diff link. Thank you for your time.
5x expanded by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 15:03, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Irwin B. Laughlin
- ... that when the Second Spanish Republic was proclaimed in 1931, U.S. Ambassador to Spain Irwin B. Laughlin (pictured) advised Secretary of State Henry L. Stimson not to recognize the new government?
Created by Offenbach (talk). Self nom at 14:40, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
John Stirk
- ... that John Stirk played every league game during Watford Football Club's 1978–79 promotion-winning season?
Created by WFCforLife (talk). Self nom at 14:35, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Hall Thompson
- ... that remarks by Hall Thompson that "we don't discriminate in every other area except blacks" before the 1990 PGA Championship led golf's governing bodies to ban holding tournaments at all-white clubs?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 13:39, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
All Saints Church, Beeby
- ... that the building materials used in All Saints Church, Beeby, Lincolnshire (tower pictured) are orange ironstone, white ashlar stone, brick, red sandstone, granite and timber?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe not interesting but certainly unusual to have as many as six different materials used in one church; I have written some hundreds of church articles, and cannot remember so many different materials in one church; it's usually between two and four. I included the colours where I could (the granite is brown, but I cannot find a suitable reference), because they give the church a somewhat multi-coloured appearance (the image gives a slight idea of that). Another suggestion could be the following, although this may not fulfil the specific citation requirements for DYK:
- ALT1 ... that the use of six different building materials for All Saints Church, Beeby, Lincolnshire (tower pictured) gives it a multi-coloured appearance?--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 18:20, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
James Armstrong (musician)
- ... that in 1997 American soul blues and electric blues guitarist, singer and songwriter James Armstrong was almost stabbed to death at his home?
Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 11:30, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Oscar season
- ... that studios release films in the fall, during Oscar season, to have a better chance at winning the Academy Awards?
Created by User:Hongkongresident (talk). Self nom at 08:47, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Wide Awake in Europe
- ... that U2's upcoming live EP is being released on Black Friday as part of a program organized by the creators of Record Store Day to draw customers to independent record shops?
5x expanded by Dream out loud (talk). Self nom at 04:58, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Hotel St. Moritz
- ... that the rooms of the Café Rumpelmayer in the Hotel St. Moritz (pictured) in New York City were designed by the German-born architect Winold Reiss?
Created by Gryffindor (talk). Self nom at 04:32, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Mount Lemmon Marathon
- ... that the female winner of the inaugural Mount Lemmon Marathon was competing in her first marathon and finished the 26.2 miles (42.2 km) race in just under 4 hours?
Created by Atmoz (talk). Self nom at 17:15, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
(ALT1) ... that the Mount Lemmon Marathon has an elevation gain of over 1 mile (1.61 km) from start to finish in the 26.2 miles (42.2 km) race.
- (Note: moved from userspace on 29 October.)
- ALT2: ... that the entirely uphill Mount Lemmon Marathon climbs over 1 mile (1.61 km) from start to finish as it follows the General Hitchcock Scenic Byway (pictured)? SFB 18:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
If You're a Viper
- ... that the US army paid for the recording of "If You're a Viper", a song about smoking marijuana, in 1943?
Created by Bali ultimate (talk). Self nom at 21:42, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Oh yeah. I suggest if ya'll like this, you run it this Tuesday, given Prop 19 in California.Bali ultimate (talk) 21:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Malformed, and hook not supported by inline citations. --Admrboltz (talk) 22:25, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yup. Expected so. (The key citation was staring you in the face). Goodbye.Bali ultimate (talk) 22:30, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
- "paid for"? Can't find any mention of monetary transactions in the article. How about "invited"? --64.231.54.224 (talk) 03:20, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- All V-Disc recordings were paid for by the army.Bali ultimate (talk) 12:39, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- Bali, I don't see anything about the Army paying for the recording of V-Discs in the article. Would you be able to add that? Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 01:23, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- The whole V-Disc effort was run by the army. They paid for the sound-engineers, the studio time, for pressing and distribution. I think the musicians generally donated their own time. There's a source already in the article to this effect. I'll duplicate it elsewhere as a favor to you (the whole point of this exercise is that it's an actually interesting hook.)Bali ultimate (talk) 21:27, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- It may be interesting to you, but it is incredibly boring to me. And that is the point. Not everyone will find every hook interesting. What is interesting to some people will not be interesting to others. -Atmoz (talk) 21:44, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Uhuh. At any rate, done. [3].Bali ultimate (talk) 21:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- It may be interesting to you, but it is incredibly boring to me. And that is the point. Not everyone will find every hook interesting. What is interesting to some people will not be interesting to others. -Atmoz (talk) 21:44, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- The whole V-Disc effort was run by the army. They paid for the sound-engineers, the studio time, for pressing and distribution. I think the musicians generally donated their own time. There's a source already in the article to this effect. I'll duplicate it elsewhere as a favor to you (the whole point of this exercise is that it's an actually interesting hook.)Bali ultimate (talk) 21:27, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Bali, I don't see anything about the Army paying for the recording of V-Discs in the article. Would you be able to add that? Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 01:23, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- All V-Disc recordings were paid for by the army.Bali ultimate (talk) 12:39, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- "paid for"? Can't find any mention of monetary transactions in the article. How about "invited"? --64.231.54.224 (talk) 03:20, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- Length and creation date verified. Hook citation checks out. Seems interesting to me, but I'm from BC. Bali, please check ref 11, as it is dead. The Interior(Talk) 22:55, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Link should work now.Bali ultimate (talk) 23:36, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Fuck it.Bali ultimate (talk) 01:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- I've sorted out the references. I'm a jazz fan anyway. Interesting article.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:37, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry to be pain, currently "Strong evidence, however, suggests Sloman is wrong that the tune slipped past the censors and it seems likely the recording didn't become public until after the war." is referenced to amazon.com and I can't see it mentioned in the next reference either, is this OR? SmartSE (talk) 00:12, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- I've sorted out the references. I'm a jazz fan anyway. Interesting article.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:37, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on October 30
Niqāb in Egypt
- ... that in response to the banning of the Niqāb in Egypt, students protested by wearing protective face masks?
Created by Noosaelgamoosa (talk). Nominated by Cryptic C62 (talk) at 15:39, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Reimar Schefold, Sakuddei
- ... that Reimar Schefold of Leiden University lived among the Sakuddei of Siberut who believe that everything has its own spirit, free to wander as it wishes?
Created by Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 03:07, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
P.E. de Josselin de Jong and J.P.B. de Josselin de Jong
- ... that P.E. de Josselin de Jong was the nephew of J.P.B. de Josselin de Jong (the founding father of Dutch anthropology) (pictured) and that both specialized in Indonesian ethnography?
Created by Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 10:27, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Bolded article names.-- N.V.V. Char Talk . 11:26, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Double hook.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:27, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Added an img-- N.V.V. Char Talk . 11:35, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- The image is non-free. It may not be used on templates, or any other place than article namespace. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:58, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. I was not aware.-- N.V.V. Char Talk . 10:36, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Diary of 1835 (Mácha)
- ... that Czech poet Karel Hynek Mácha wrote parts of his Diary of 1835 in code to conceal details of his erotic relationship with Eleonora Šomková?
Created by Aloysius (talk). Self nom at 06:08, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- I humbly ask to move this suggestion to Special Occasion area for 16 November to celebrate the 200th birth anniversary of Karel Hynek Mácha, Czech National poet - I have added four other articles relevant to this important day in the Czech Republic. Three were created on 29 October, one more on 30 October. Aloysius (talk) 06:09, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Eleonora Šomková
- ... that Czech poet Karel Hynek Mácha's funeral took place on the day of the intended wedding with his fiancée and mother of his newborn child Eleonora Šomková known as Lori?
Created by Aloysius (talk). Self nom at 05:57, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- I humbly ask to move this suggestion to Special Occasion area for 16 November to celebrate the 200th birth anniversary of Karel Hynek Mácha, Czech National poet - I have added four other articles relevant to this important day in the Czech Republic. Three were created on 29 October, one more on 30 October.Aloysius (talk) 06:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Women's literary salons and societies in the Arab World
- ... that, because she wore the niqāb, Zaynab Fawwaz's husband had to relay messages for her to the men who attended her Arabic literary salon?
Created by Act25 (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 02:36, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Venues of the 1964 Winter Olympics
- ... that all eight venues of the 1964 Winter Olympics were reused with some improvements when the Winter Olympics returned there twelve years later?
Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 17:47, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Janet Bragg
- ... that aviator Janet Bragg was the first African-American woman to hold a Commercial Pilot Licence?
Created by Rich Farmbrough (talk), East of Borschov (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 17:33, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
List of I Zingari first-class cricketers
- ... that among the 85 cricketers to play first-class cricket for I Zingari were one member of the British Royal Family, three barons, one Earl, three Members of Parliament and one bishop?
- ALT1:... that among the 85 cricketers to play first-class cricket for I Zingari was Prince Christian Victor of Schleswig-Holstein, the only member of the British Royal Family to have played first-class cricket?
Created by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 09:15, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Consulate General of France in Jerusalem
- ... that the Consulate General of France in Jerusalem established official political ties with the Palestinian government after Yasser Arafat moved to Gaza City in 1994?
Created by Dmk53 (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 03:20, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Early life of Néstor Kirchner
- ... that Néstor Kirchner and Cristina Fernández de Kirchner (pictured) had a civil wedding rather than a religious ceremony, with a peronist hymn sung during it?
Created by MBelgrano (talk). Self nom at 02:59, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Ronnie McCollum
- ... that March 13, 2001 was named "Ronnie McCollum Day" in Shreveport, Louisiana to honor the basketball player of that name?
Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 23:39, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Ashleigh Grimshaw, Robbie Olivier
- ... that Robbie "The Flame" Olivier and Ashleigh "The Thunderball Kid" Grimshaw faced off at Cage Rage 27 - Step Up for the Cage Rage British Featherweight Championship?
Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 23:31, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- The event refs are done, I think, but the nicknames are sourced in the infobox on the right of the article. If the nicknames need to be in the prose, please send me a talk message and I'll sort that out. Thanks. Paralympiakos (talk) 23:34, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Epidemiology (Community episode)
- ... that despite its high praise by critics, the Community episode "Epidemiology" was the least-watched non-reality component of NBC's Comedy Night Done Right lineup?
5x expanded by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 19:48, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Princess Xenia of Montenegro
- ... that at various times, Princess Xenia of Montenegro was rumored to be engaged to Alexander of Serbia, Nicholas of Greece, and Ernest Louis of Hesse?
Ruby2010 (talk) 18:49, 30 October 2010 (UTC))
- ALT1: ... that Princess Xenia of Montenegro's refusal of marriage to Alexander I of Serbia severed diplomatic relations between their two countries?
List of 1948 Winter Olympics medal winners
- ... that when Barbara Ann Scott won a gold medal for figure skating at the 1948 Winter Olympics, she became the first Canadian to do so?
Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 18:40, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Alexandria Mills
- ... that Alexandria Mills from the USA won Miss World 2010 in Sanya, China?--BabbaQ (talk) 16:06, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- Could someone please review this article and put it on the DYK section. Thanks--BabbaQ (talk) 19:58, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
William Donald Albright
- ... that in 1941, William Donald Albright became director of the Beaverlodge Research Station, the northernmost such station in Canada?
Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 13:49, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Debye-Hückel theory
- ... that Debye–Hückel theory provides a theoretical explanation for departures from ideality in dilute solutions of electrolytes?
Created by Petergans (talk). Self nom at 13:16, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
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- No it isn't. There was a redirect. I had tagged the old redirect for deletion, but it appears that it is still around, so it seems that there are two files with the same name. Please, admin, sort this out. Petergans (talk) 08:29, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Please explain. The Debye–Hückel theory redirect is valid and needs no deletion. The Debye–Hückel equation article is neither new nor has been 5x expanded recently. So what is being nominated for DYK? Materialscientist (talk) 08:47, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- The article is at Debye-H%C3%BCckel_theory: Debye-Hückel_theory
The redirect is at Debye%E2%80%93H%C3%BCckel_theory: Debye–Hückel_theory
The difference is the former has a hyphen in the title, the latter a dash. EdChem (talk) 09:57, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- The article is at Debye-H%C3%BCckel_theory: Debye-Hückel_theory
- Please explain. The Debye–Hückel theory redirect is valid and needs no deletion. The Debye–Hückel equation article is neither new nor has been 5x expanded recently. So what is being nominated for DYK? Materialscientist (talk) 08:47, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- No it isn't. There was a redirect. I had tagged the old redirect for deletion, but it appears that it is still around, so it seems that there are two files with the same name. Please, admin, sort this out. Petergans (talk) 08:29, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Thank you User:EdChem for finding the problem. I have put a delete request in for the redundant redirect. Debye-Hückel theory is a new article which I have written because Debye-Hückel equation made no mention of where the equation comes from. Petergans (talk) 20:21, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Ok. I'd love to see this topic on the main page, but these two articles overlap too much. A merger tag may appear any hour. The problem is this nom. might be viewed as futile creation of a new article (for DYK) instead of fixing an old one. Materialscientist (talk) 07:00, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Gabriel Acquin
- ... that Maliseet guide Gabriel Acquin claimed to have killed 60 red deer in the space of two weeks?
5x expanded by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 13:12, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- Not an interesting hook in my opinion. And more importantly, it was only Acquin himself who claimed that he killed 60 red deer... that's not really reliable. - PM800 (talk) 07:06, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Tristan Thrush
- ... that the Tristan Thrush is a regular predator of the eggs and chicks of the Great Shearwater?
5x expanded by Maias (talk). Self nom at 12:47, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
All Saints Church, Holdenby
- ... that when Sir Christopher Hatton, Lord Chancellor to Elizabeth I, built Holdenby House, he moved the dwellings of Holdenby village away from All Saints Church, leaving it isolated?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:29, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Adolf Skjegstad
- ... that when A. Skjegstad was hired in Aftenposten, he became one of the few in Norway to go from a labour newspaper to a high-profile conservative newspaper?
Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 09:58, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Jimmy Dygert
- ... that spitballer Jimmy Dygert, who won 21 games in 1907, was the lightest Major League Baseball pitcher of the 20th century?
5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 09:31, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Ken Nicholas
- ... that Ken Nicholas represented England at schoolboy level in both football and rugby?
Created by WFCforLife (talk). Self nom at 06:26, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
The Female Quixote
- ... that The Female Quixote was used as a model by Jane Austen for her first novel, Northanger Abbey?
Created by Clementina (talk). Self nom at 02:27, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
- Amazon.com is not a reliable source. This link is a student essay, and also not a reliable source. Enotes.com is a tertiary source, and is of dubious reliability.--hkr Laozi speak 00:44, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
18 Galeus articles
- ... that the catsharks of the genus Galeus—G. antillensis, G. arae, G. atlanticus, G. cadenati, G. eastmani, G. gracilis, G. longirostris, G. melastomus (pictured), G. mincaronei, G. murinus, G. nipponensis, G. piperatus, G. polli, G. priapus, G. sauteri, G. schultzi, and G. springeri—have "saws" on their tails?
5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 02:50, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
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- 5x expansions/new articles are verified. 5 articles: Atlantic sawtail catshark, Gecko catshark, Mouse catshark, Blacktip sawtail catshark and Dwarf sawtail catshark don't mention the saw tails in the descriptions so this needs to be fixed. I'm a bit uncertain about the hook, not sure if you've looked at WT:DYK over the last few days, but things are changing, and I'm not sure if this is deemed to be interesting or not... Personally, any hook with 18 article is amazing, but I'd like to that others agree before giving this a tick. SmartSE (talk) 21:52, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- All the articles mention the presence of the tail crest, and I don't necessarily think the same comparison to a saw needs to be made on all of them if it is referenced in the article Galeus itself as a central character of the genus, though I will change it if it's deemed a severe issue. As for whether it is interesting...I'll leave it to the reviewers to decide whether these articles are worthy of being on the front page. -- Yzx (talk) 22:59, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Discretionary trusts and powers in English law
- ... that discretionary trusts in English law have been described as "powers in the nature of trusts" because they cross the traditional distinction between trusts and powers?
Ironholds (talk) 07:03, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Official scorer
- ... that by 1979, The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, and The Boston Globe banned their writers from working as an official scorer for Major League Baseball due to a conflict of interest?
5x expanded by Aaron north (talk). Self nom at 09:42, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
SimplySiti
- ... that all lipsticks from SimplySiti range is named based on its founder (pictured) hits singles?
Created/expanded by Syfuel (talk). Self nom at 15:52, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Current nominations
Articles created/expanded on October 31
United States Post Office-Lenox Hill Station
- ... that, unlike other Colonial Revival post offices in New York, the Lenox Hill station (pictured) on Manhattan's Upper East Side has two main entrances on either side?
5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 20:22, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
George Cain
- ... that George Cain's book Blueschild Baby was called "the most important work of fiction by an Afro-American since Native Son" for its portrayal of "a world that only black people can fully comprehend"?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:11, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
El Chal
- ... that the important ceremonial architecture of the Maya city of El Chal in Guatemala was located some distance from the civic centre of the city?
5x expanded by Simon Burchell (talk). Self nom at 22:18, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Recreation
- ... that recreational physical activity reduces cancers but not melanoma?
5x expanded by Ekem (talk). Self nom at 20:08, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Kaplaneios School
- ... that the Kaplaneios School (pictured) in Ioannina, Greece, evolved into the most significant intellectual center of the city through the work of Athanasios Psalidas?
Created/expanded by Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 16:32, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Susan Louisa Moir Allison
- ... that Canadian pioneer Susan Louisa Moir Allison was the first European to report a sighting of Ogopogo, a cryptid lake monster?
Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 14:32, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Mere (weapon)
- ... that a Mere (held in picture), which was made from Jade, could be used to split a man's head open?
5x expanded by Sladew (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 12:03, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Expansion length and date verified. Have removed one short para: "A club-type mere demonstrated on an American television show showed the weapon's strength as compared to a steel knife. The mere, when used in a slashing motion, could crush a cattle skull, twice the thickness of a human skull, as well as cut through three brick slabs. The steel knife, however, only managed to cut through a single brick slab.[7]" as the source, Spike TV's "Deadliest Warrior" is not a reliable source. The Interior(Talk) 21:51, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Hook citation verified. The Interior(Talk) 22:14, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Hartford City Courthouse Square Historic District
- ... that Indiana's Gas Boom of the 1880s helped play a pivotal role in the development of the Hartford City Courthouse Square Historic District (map pictured)?
Created by TwoScars (talk). Nominated by Slgrandson (talk) at 04:54, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Roy Skinner
- ... that head coach Roy Skinner of the Vanderbilt Commodores men's basketball team recruited Perry Wallace as the first African American to play varsity basketball in the Southeastern Conference?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 13:50, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Venues of the 1964 Summer Olympics
- ... that two venues of the 1964 Summer Olympics later served as venues for the IAAF World Championships in Athletics?
Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 13:31, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Peter Tsheehama
- ... that during Peter Tshirumbu Tsheehama's tenure as Chief of the Namibian Intelligence agency the body became informally known as "Tshirumbu's people"?
Created by Pgallert (talk). Self nom at 08:36, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Potential person
- ... that philosophers differ in opinion whether potential future persons have value or not?
Created by Mikael Häggström (talk). Self nom at 04:47, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Congregation Or Chadash
- ... that Congregation Or Chadash, Chicago's oldest LGBT synagogue, was an addressee in the 2010 cargo plane bomb plot?
Created by Jayjg (talk), Brewcrewer (talk). Self nom at 03:11, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Alt1: that Congregation Or Chadash, an addressee in the 2010 cargo plane bomb plot, was the fifth LGBT synagogue in the United States?--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 04:26, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Alt2: that Congregation Or Chadash, an addressee in the 2010 cargo plane bomb plot, was the first American LGBT synagogue to employ a heterosexual rabbi?--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 04:26, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Louis J. Roussel, Jr.
- ... that the Louisiana businessman and petroleum industrialist Louis J. Roussel, Jr., began his career in the 1930s as a bus driver in New Orleans?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:00, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Danny van Bergen
- ... that in the 2009 M-1 Challenge Season, Team Benelux's Danny van Bergen was one of only two team members to finish with a positive record?
Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 01:27, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Laura Smith (blues singer)
- ... that American classic female blues singer Laura Smith recorded two songs which were written about the Great Mississippi Flood of 1927?
Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 22:23, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Supercomputing in China
- ... that, although China has the fastest supercomputer in the world, there are relatively few supercomputers in China, compared to the United States?
Created by History2007 (talk). Self nom at 21:34, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Monika Frimmer, Christa Bonhoff, Dantes Diwiak
- ... that the vocal quartet Monika Frimmer, Christa Bonhoff, Dantes Diwiak and Peter Kooy recorded Valentin Rathgeber's Augsburger Tafel-Confect?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 20:40, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Harold King (author)
- ... that the American novelist Harold "Hal" King gained the sobriquet "the crown prince of suspense" with publication of his 1979 anti-Nazi thriller, Closing Ceremonies?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 19:56, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
John Howland
- ... that Mayflower passengers John Howland and Elizabeth Tilley founded one of the three largest Mayflower progenies?
5x expanded by Ishtar456 (talk) Self nom at 18:54, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: This expansion is NOT 5 fold and I ask that an exception be made. Even though there are only 2.5 Xs more characters in the prose sections of new version than the old, the current version has been substantially rewritten. Although much improvement still remains to be made, the current version is far more informative and readable. The former version was uncited and incoherent. I think that making exception for historically significant figures or events may help encourage editors to tackle these types of improvements, in which the sources are difficult to discern and the research more time consuming. I understand that decisions are done at the discretion of the administrator. If the exception is made, I would also like to request that entry be moved to November 25, Thanksgiving in the USA. --Ishtar456 (talk) 18:54, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Raymond Kimutai Bett
- ... that Raymond Kimutai Bett set a new race record to win the 2010 Athens Classic Marathon, which celebrated the 2500th anniversary of the Battle of Marathon?
Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 18:19, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
List of number-one EPs (UK), Hits (The Beach Boys EP)
- ... that extended play Hits by The Beach Boys (songwriter Brian Wilson pictured) spent 32 weeks at number-one in the EP chart?
Created by Rambo's Revenge (talk). Self nom at 17:34, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Anti-Fascist Youth Union of the Free Territory of Trieste
- ... that the Anti-Fascist Youth Union did, apart from political activism, organize sports and cultural activities in the Free Territory of Trieste?
Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 16:58, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Robert-Georg Freiherr von Malapert
- ... that Robert-Georg Freiherr von Malapert was the first recipient of the German Cross in Gold?
Created by MisterBee1966 (talk). Self nom at 15:25, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
BSA Empire Star
- ... that in 1937 a BSA Empire Star motorcycle ridden by Walter Handley won a race at Brooklands race track with a fastest lap at 107.57mph using alchohol as fuel?
Created/expanded by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 14:34, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Cash McCall (musician)
- ... that American electric blues guitarist, singer and songwriter Cash McCall has evolved in musical styles from gospel to soul to the blues?
Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 14:33, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Patriarchal Monastery of the Holy Trinity
- ... that the church of the Patriarchal Monastery of the Holy Trinity (pictured) near Veliko Tarnovo, Bulgaria, has an Ancient Roman pagan sacrificial altar?
Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 14:31, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Henry Arkwright
- ... that, after Henry Arkwright was killed by an avalanche in 1866, his body remained undiscovered for 31 years and, when found, was missing both feet and a head?
- ALT1:... that, after Henry Arkwright was killed by an avalanche in 1866, his body remained undiscovered for 31 years and, when found, his right hand was "marvellously life-like"?
- ALT2:... that amateur cricketer Henry Arkwright once took 18 wickets in a match, the second most ever taken?
Created by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 12:52, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Meyer Foshaug
- ... that Meyer Foshaug held one of the first four seats won by the Labour Party in the Parliament of Norway?
Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 10:57, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
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Thomas Henry Scott
- ... that executioner Thomas Henry Scott was fired for being with a prostitute on the night before a hanging job?
Created by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 07:44, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- A bit negative, perhaps?
- The hook is fine because the person is long dead. However, I don't think this should run unless it's expanded significantly. Christopher Connor (talk) 12:00, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Harry Oliver (footballer)
- ... that when Harry Oliver joined Watford Football Club, Benskins Brewery paid the transfer fee on the club's behalf?
Created by WFCforLife (talk). Self nom at 06:15, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Creation date OK. Length just squeaks through at 1600 chars. AGF for offline hook ref. Any chance of finding an image for the infobox? The Interior(Talk) 20:24, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- There's a realistic chance that an image is out there, but there's nothing more that I can do. There seems to be a trend that a subject being dead isn't enough to qualify for fair use. I would therefore have to be able to show that any image was originally published before 1940 (the one I have was taken between 1948 and 1952), or freely licenced (it isn't, and I was unable to find any others online). It is plausible that a Hartlepool or Brentford fan would be able to find a suitable image, but I don't know any. —WFC— 07:24, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Mary Emma Allison
- ... that Mary Emma Allison conceived of Trick-or-Treat for UNICEF in 1950 to raise funds for powdered milk for needy children, a program that had raised $160 million by the time of her death in 2010?
- Comment: It's a shame that word about her death broke to late to make it in for Halloween this year.
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:05, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 1
Reorganization Plan No. 3
- ... that Richard Nixon unilaterally created the United States Environmental Protection Agency with Reorganization Plan No. 3?
5x expanded by Gsrogers (talk). Nominated by The ed17 (talk) at 19:17, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
2003 Eastern Michigan Eagles football team
- ... that after giving up six turnovers against Navy in the fourth game of the 2003 season, Eastern Michigan head coach Jeff Woodruff commented, "You can’t beat a high school team giving up five turnovers"?
Created by Cmadler (talk). Self nom at 17:19, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Roald Halvorsen, Ørnulf Egge
- ... that most leading communists hit by the Nazi Operation Almenrausch in 1944, including Peder Furubotn, Ørnulf Egge and Roald Halvorsen, survived?
Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 23:23, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: Please hold this for some days, as more articles will be added. Geschichte (talk) 23:26, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
National Federation of Discharged and Demobilized Sailors and Soldiers
- ... that the National Federation of Discharged and Demobilized Sailors and Soldiers, a forerunner of the Royal British Legion, was founded in opposition to the re-conscription of men injured during World War I?
Created by Warofdreams (talk). Self nom at 10:22, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Might be good for 11 November (Remembrance Day). Warofdreams talk 10:24, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Little Fluffy Gigolo Pelu
- ... that the alien hero of Little Fluffy Gigolo Pelu was inspired by the lovelorn wanderer Tora-san?
5x expanded by KrebMarkt (talk). Nominated by Malkinann (talk) at 02:40, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Mandy Sellars
- ... that, because of a lifelong medical condition that may be Proteus syndrome, Mandy Sellars' legs and feet weigh about 210 lb (95 kg), while her upper body only weighs about 84 lb (38 kg)?
Created by Clarityfiend (talk). Self nom at 02:35, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Rinia Park
Taiwan Center in Rinia Park, Tirana
- ... that during the Communist period, Rinia Park (pictured) became a notorious spot for Tirana's drug dealers and illegal buildings?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 21:43, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Added an img-- N.V.V. Char Talk . 10:22, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Venues of the 1968 Winter Olympics
- ... that Canada's Nancy Greene had a headache for two days after the electronic stop clock fixed itself after a malfunction at the alpine skiing women's giant slalom event venue at the 1968 Winter Olympics?
Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 15:08, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Rand Schrader
- ... that after AIDS activist and former Los Angeles Municipal Court judge Rand Schrader died in 1993, his partner David Bohnett founded the GeoCities website?
Created by Billyboy01 (talk). Self nom at 08:10, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1:{*mp}}... that after AIDS activist Rand Schrader died in 1993, his partner David Bohnett founded the GeoCities website using the benefits from Schrader's life insurance? DS (talk) 01:54, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Daren Queenan
- ... that Daren Queenan won the 1989 Continental Basketball Association Dunk Contest?
Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 03:31, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Tønsberg FIK
- ... that Norwegian skier Anders Aukland has also won Norwegian championship medals in athletics, for the club Tønsberg FIK?
Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 23:24, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Natasha Mayers
- ... that in the 100 metres at the 2010 Commonwealth Games, Natasha Mayers initially won the bronze, was moved up to silver, then was upgraded to the gold medal due to disqualifications?
Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 22:20, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Ready. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 22:44, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Abingdon Boys School discography
- ... that Abingdon Boys School, a band that shares a name with a school formerly attended by members of Radiohead, has contributed music to anime such as Darker than Black and Soul Eater?
Created by NocturneNoir (talk). Self nom at 17:55, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Bert Perrigo
- ... that Bert Perrigo was a British engineer and designer for BSA motorcycles where he developed the BSA Blue Star range in the 1930's and was paid one half penny royalty for every motorcycle sold?
Created by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 16:29, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Richard John Cork
- ... that Battle of Britain fighter ace Richard Dickie Cork was the only Fleet Air Arm pilot to shoot down five aircraft in a day?
Self nom Jim Sweeney (talk) 08:14, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
- Could the nom please just explain something to me - you're probably right here, I most likely don't understand :) - the article and the hook say that the pilot shot "down" five aircraft in one day. However, this confirms "9 confirmed destroyed enemy aircraft, 2 shared destroyed, 1 probable, 4 damaged, 7 destroyed on the ground". Are you able to provide confirmation from the offline source that the nine destroyed wasn't composed of the two shared and seven on the ground, but nine unshared destroys in the sky? Arctic Night 15:11, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Yes His final score was nine destroyed, two shared, one probable, four damaged and seven destroyed on the ground. [Thomas (2007), p.87] But he was the only RN pilot to shoot down five in one day. [Thomas (2003), p.33.] But the total shot down is not part of the hook does that help--Jim Sweeney (talk) 15:19, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Wednesbury unreasonableness in Singapore
- ... that a classic hypothetical example of the Wednesbury unreasonableness doctrine in administrative law, which applies in Singapore, is a public authority dismissing a teacher because of her red hair?
Created by Bbilltang (talk), Doreenchia (talk), Fazlina.2008 (talk), Liruwong (talk), Pinkturtlehair (talk) and Smuconlaw (talk). Nominated by Smuconlaw (talk) at 08:23, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- I think the picture is inappropriate to use in both the hook and the article unless she has anything to do with the actual dismissal case. Geschichte (talk) 23:25, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- No, the person in the photograph doesn't have anything to do with the dismissal case because it is not a real dismissal case. It is a hypothetical case given as an example in a well-known English case (Associated Provincial Picture Houses v Wednesbury Corporation). If it would make things clearer, I am happy to change the hook to read "... classic hypothetical example ..." — SMUconlaw (talk) 09:24, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Raymond Stone
- ... that after his term as acting Governor of Guam, Raymond Stone went on to become a judge on the Supreme Court of Guam?
Created by Scapler (talk). Self nom at 07:00, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length and hook check out. Not the most interesting of hooks (many did that sort of thing worldwide at that point in time), but I think it passes the test. One note to the nom though - although I think it's good enough for DYK, I still think it warrants a quick cleanup (headings, etc. might need some improvement). Arctic Night 15:19, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Greenlandic cuisine
- ... that the many unique features of Greenlandic cuisine include beer brewed from ancient glacial water?
5x expanded by Uyvsdi (talk). Self nom at 05:52, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
House (1977 film)
- ... that director Nobuhiko Obayashi purposely made the special effects in the horror comedy film House look unrealistic?
5x expanded by Andrzejbanas (talk). Self nom at 03:33, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
American democracy promotion in the Middle East and North Africa
- ... that, while civil society is a tool for developing democracy, it does not always result in democratic behavior or values?
Created by Ya7abibi24 (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 03:15, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Bogor
- ... that the botanic garden (pictured) of Bogor, Indonesia, was the world's largest in the 19th century?
- Comment: See "Rule of the Kingdom of the Netherlands" and this ref. Materialscientist (talk) 01:41, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 01:41, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 00:28, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- I've added a link to Botanical garden, could be changed to Bogor Botanical Garden, but that article's a bit crap. SmartSE (talk) 13:05, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
I.G.Y. (What a Beautiful World)
- ... that Steely Dan singer Donald Fagen's only Billboard Top 40 hit as a solo artist was "I.G.Y. (What a Beautiful World)", a song inspired by the International Geophysical Year of July 1957–December 1958?
Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 02:32, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 2
Charles B. Carter
- ... that Maine Senator Charles "Babe" Carter (pictured) was known for his agility, nerve and "wonderful handling of his massive frame" as a football player in the early 1900s?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:20, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
1907 Kingston earthquake
- ... that in the immediate aftermath of the 1907 Kingston earthquake, the passenger steamer Port Kingston was used as a hospital with three improvised operating theatres?
- ALT1:... that in the aftermath of the 1907 Kingston earthquake the Governor of Jamaica refused an offer of eight surgeons from three United States warships?
5x expanded by Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 21:44, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Both hooks are good. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 22:41, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Moscow State Pedagogical University
- ... that the alumni of the Moscow State Pedagogical University include Raisa Gorbachev?
Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 01:38, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Butchers Wheel
- ... that Butchers Wheel (pictured), a cutlery and tool factory in Sheffield, could only be accessed through a single, guarded door?
Created by Warofdreams (talk). Self nom at 01:06, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Slavic-Italian Anti-Fascist Union, Free Territory of Trieste municipal election, 1949
- ... that in the 1949 municipal election in the Free Territory of Trieste, the communist-led Slavic-Italian Anti-Fascist Union won 97% of the votes in Monrupino?
Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 22:31, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Pratt-Yorke opinion
- ... that mis-transcribed versions of the Pratt-Yorke opinion (Pratt pictured) of 1757 were circulated in British North America by opponents of the Royal Proclamation of 1763?
Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 21:21, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Religion in San Marino
- ... that religion in San Marino is predominantly Catholic (inside a catholic church pictured)?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk), and Hongkongresident (talk). Self nom at 21:45, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Candide ou l'optimisme du XXe siècle
- ... that Candide ou l'optimisme au XXe siècle is a French comedy drama film from 1960, based on Voltaire's satiric novel Candide, ou’lOptimisme, and set in the World War II era?
Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 19:22, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Edward William Archibald
- ... that despite the mental demands of his profession, Edward William Archibald, considered Canada's first neurosurgeon, was described as a "distressingly absent-minded character"?
Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 17:39, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
The Listeners (novel)
- ... that James Gunn's 1972 science fiction novel The Listeners was proposed as an unrecognized classic in the field by New Scientist magazine in November 2010?
5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 16:42, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Duke Henderson
- ... that the American blues shouter and jazz singer Duke Henderson, latterly broadcast as a minister and gospel DJ?
Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 15:50, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Joseph Miranda
- ... that Joseph Miranda once had his life saved by Sam DeCavalcante after robbing another mobster?
Created by 72.74.200.136 (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 01:29, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 01:58, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Dan River (China)
- ... that China's Dan River is the longest tributary of the Han River, itself the longest tributary of the Yangtze River, the longest river in Asia and third longest in the world?
Created by Philg88 (talk). Self nom at 02:06, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Better without "and third longest in the world". Save this for a hook about the third longest tributary of the Yangtze River.... --174.89.163.171 (talk) 04:47, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- Just to clarify, the Yangtze is the third longest river in the world - that fact has nothing to do with tributaries. Philg88 (talk) 22:22, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- I know. Your hook has "the longest ___" three times, and following up with "(Ooops) but it's not the longest ___ here" makes the hook look clumsy. Save "the third longest ___" part for another hook (perhaps about another tributary which may be third longest ___ of....) --174.89.163.171 (talk) 13:32, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Peter Lumsden
- ... that General Sir Peter Lumsden accompanied a special military mission to Kandahar with his older brother, Sir Harry Burnett Lumsden?
Created by A Thousand Doors (talk). Self nom at 03:29, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Expansion, self nom:
Menara Kudus Mosque
- ... that Menara Kudus Mosque is the only mosque in Java known to have a Majapahit-style Hindu drum tower?
5x expanded by Merbabu (talk). Self nom at 13:24, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Megaguirus
- ... that Megaguirus, one of many kaiju featured in the Godzilla series, nearly defeated Godzilla before being abruptly destroyed?
5x expanded by Cyclonebiskit (talk). Self nom at 15:47, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 3
Norman Sterry
- ... that Los Angeles attorney Norman Sterry (pictured) represented the New York Yankees in a landmark U.S. Supreme Court case that upheld an exemption from the antitrust laws for Major League Baseball?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:28, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Abrskil Cave, Otap, Abrskil
5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 13:17, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Bias in Singapore
- ... that Singapore law on whether a decision-maker is affected by apparent bias is based on the premise that "justice should not only be done, but should manifestly and undoubtedly be seen to be done"?
Created by Siauderman (talk). Nominated by Smuconlaw (talk) at 08:38, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Four Price
- ... that one of the new Republican members of the Texas House of Representatives is known as Four Price because he is the fourth generation of his family to bear the name "Walter Thomas Price"?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:43, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- ALT: =... that Four Price, one of the incoming Republican members of the Texas House, has vowed to be the "voice of the Panhandle" in his state's legislature?
- Fn. 1, which is cited after the hook fact in the article, is the web site for Price's campaign. Not sure that's a proper source, and in any event the linked page doesn't say anything about him being the fourth generation to bear the name. Cbl62 (talk) 05:30, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- Also, there is a message on the creator's talk page from CorenSearchBot indicating that a web search indicates the contents of this article appear to include material copied directly from http://www.conservapedia.com/Four_Price. Creator states on his talk page that the referenced site copied the wikipedia article in a prior iteration in July 2010. This issue also needs to be resolved before the article can be promoted. Cbl62 (talk) 05:39, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- Further review of the conservapedia article shows that BHathorn (presumably same as the creator here) wrote the article on that site in July 2010. He has now copied the article verbatim onto Wikipedia. Not sure how that fits with DYK "new" content requirements and copyvio issues. Thoughts? Cbl62 (talk) 05:41, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Gee Jon, Nevada State Prison
- ... that Gee Jon became the first person in the United States to be executed in a gas chamber, after Nevada State Prison officials found that pumping the poison directly into his cell did not work?
5x expanded by KimChee (talk). Self nom at 02:48, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Vladimir Guerrier
- ... that in the 1870s Russian liberals like Gerrier (pictured) and Chicherin accused Karl Marx of being narrowly concerned with the proletariat and indifferent to the entrepreneur's "psychic labour"?
Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 00:49, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- Length and date both fine. And a nice article too. But the hook fact isn't precisely supported by the excerpt from Kingston-Mann's book. The passage from the book doesn't say that Guerrier himself made the accusation, but rather that liberals of his ilk did: "In the 1870s, when Russian liberals like Chicherin, V.I.Guerrier, and Iu. Zhukovskii accused Marx of being 'narrowly' concerned for proletarians and indifferent to the far more significant 'psychic labor' of the entrepreneur .." Can you clarify this? Cbl62 (talk) 05:09, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- You're right, I've edited the hook. Moonraker2 (talk) 06:07, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Hangar One (Los Angeles, California)
- ... that Hangar No. 1 (pictured) was constructed as Los Angeles International Airport's first building in 1929?
5x expanded by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 23:36, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- alt 1 ... that Hangar No. 1 (pictured), once used by Charles Lindbergh, was built at Los Angeles International Airport when it consisted of a dirt landing strip in the middle of bean and barley fields? Cbl62 (talk) 05:18, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Werner Erhard vs. Columbia Broadcasting System
- ... that after the plaintiff in the lawsuit Werner Erhard vs. Columbia Broadcasting System filed a motion to dismiss the case, he mailed checks for US$100 to each of the defendants?
Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 23:20, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Lynching of Ell Persons
- ... that Ell Persons, an African American man, was lynched and burned alive in 1917, "putting this Negro out of the way in up-to-date fashion"?
Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 22:30, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: A nice alternative hook might be to mention the initial investigation relying upon an image of Persons supposedly being visible in a murder victim's pupils after her death, but I can't quite manage to turn it into a coherent hook. (Maybe mention the year as well.) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 06:52, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- Is there anything particularly wrong with this hook? I added the date; it only increased the character count slightly. Christopher Connor (talk) 00:17, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Arne Wam
- ... that Arne Wam was responsible for stopping the Norwegian State Railways from turning all seats to the trains forward direction?
Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 21:55, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- The hook is somewhat difficult to understand. ALT: ... that Arne Wam, as director of the Norwegian State Railways, ended the practice of turning all seats in whatever direction a train was facing? Geschichte (talk) 23:53, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Ådalen Line
- ... that the Ådalen Line of Sweden will be upgraded to become part of a high-speed railway corridor between Stockholm and Umeå?
Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 21:52, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Battle of Machias (1777)
- ... that Maliseet, Passamaquoddy, and Penobscot Indians participated in the Battle of Machias on August 13–14, 1777?
Created by Magicpiano (talk). Self nom at 21:26, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that in the 1777 Battle of Machias a British amphibious assault seized stores of flour, rice, corn, shoes, and ammunition but was driven off by United States forces assisted by Maliseet, Passamaquoddy, and Penobscot Indians?
- ALT2 ... that it was said of the 1777 Battle of Machias by John Allan that "not an Action during the War Except Bunker Hill there was such a slaughter" even though the British claimed they suffered only 3 dead and 18 wounded?
- --Demiurge1000 (talk) 07:07, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Johnny Sturm
- ... that, in early 1941, Johnny Sturm broke into the New York Yankees lineup after two future Hall of Famers went into slumps?
5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 20:16, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- alt 1 ... that 1941 New York Yankees first baseman Johnny Sturm was the man who first recommended Mickey Mantle to the Yankees? Cbl62 (talk) 05:59, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Leslie Linder (film producer)
- ... that Leslie Linder, once the agent for Sean Connery and producer of Hamlet starring Nicol Williamson, was the son of a London confectioner?
Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Self nom at 15:46, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Several issues: (1) presently too short to qualify for DYK, as 1,500 bytes of text are required; (2) the article is based on a single source (obit in The Sunday Times) and appears to be copied from that source (possible copyright violation); and (3) the hook, at least the part about being a confectioner's son, is not particularly interesting. Cbl62 (talk) 06:07, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- This can be sent to AfD. I don't think I can find enought to expand it. When I wrote it I'd forgotten it had to be 1500 long. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 09:06, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
St Michael's Church, Stretton en le Field
- ... that the chancel arch in St Michael's Church, Stretton en le Field, Leicestershire, appears to be made of stone, but it is made of wood covered with stucco, giving it the appearance of stone?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:25, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Shannon Tavarez
- ... that 11-year-old Shannon Tavarez, who played Nala in Broadway's The Lion King, died of leukemia despite efforts by Alicia Keys, Rihanna and 50 Cent to recruit bone marrow donors from among their fans?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 14:57, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length, referencing and hook fact all check out. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 06:41, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Leslie Linder
- ... that British engineer Leslie Linder cracked the secret code Beatrix Potter used in her journals?
Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Self nom at 14:40, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- I know but I don't think I'll find material right away on this. Susanne2009NYC (talk) 09:08, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Cave of the Ramban
- ... that Jews are prohibited from praying at the alleged tomb of Nahmanides, a foremost medieval rabbinic scholar and kabbalist?
Created by Chesdovi (talk). Self nom at 13:48, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Article length, sourcing, date and hook fact all check out. Disappointed not to find any mention of the nearest bus stop to this site. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 06:32, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Breiðamerkurjökull and Höfn
- ... that Breiðamerkurjökull (pictured), an outlet glacier of the larger glacier of Vatnajökull, can approached from the fishing town of Höfn?
5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 10:21, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Added an img.-- N.V.V. Char Talk . 08:45, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Berl Katznelson
- ... that Labor movement activist Berl Katznelson fell ill and suffered a severe spiritual crisis after trying his hand at physical labor?
5x expanded by Sreifa (talk). Self nom at 08:48, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Lee-Hamblin family
- ... that J. David and Inez Hamblin Lee have had four great-grandchildren elected to the U.S. Senate from four different states?
Created by Politicalprojects (talk). Self nom at 08:21, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Canfield-Wright House
- ... that the Canfield-Wright House (pictured) was built for an oil tycoon who developed Beverly Hills and Del Mar, California?
Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 06:52, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- ... that the neighboring Indonesian islands of Buru and Ambelau are unique by Ambelau, Buru, Kayeli and Lisela people; their Ambelau, Buru, Kayeli and Lisela languages; by the Rufous-throated White-eye, Buru Lorikeet, Black-lored Parrot and a hairy variety of the babirusa pig (pictured)?
- Comment: I was actually aiming at 24x, but am a few hundred bytes short of 5x expansion in some Buru-endemic species :-) Too obscure. Materialscientist (talk) 05:48, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Created/expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 05:48, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- The hook doesn't quite work I think, as it's not clear whether the islands are unique together or separately. Perhaps adding 'both' after the initial 'that' and changing 'by' to 'from the' would make it clearer, oh and an extra 'the' before 'Rufous' would I think sound better. Mikenorton (talk) 18:25, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, added "the". "Both" is tricky to add as only a few of these items are found on Ambelau (little is known about it, though). I am ignorant in the "by/from the" change, thus those who are better with grammar, please fix (note it is not that "those Buru, etc. people told us about those unique items" - we know it from other sources). Materialscientist (talk) 23:41, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- The hook doesn't quite work I think, as it's not clear whether the islands are unique together or separately. Perhaps adding 'both' after the initial 'that' and changing 'by' to 'from the' would make it clearer, oh and an extra 'the' before 'Rufous' would I think sound better. Mikenorton (talk) 18:25, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Faya (band)
- ... that R&B group FYA were discovered singing at a youth centre in Slough and went on to be signed to a six-album deal with Def Jam Recordings?
Created by A Thousand Doors (talk). Self nom at 03:21, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
United Trade Unions of the Free Territory of Trieste
- ... that the communist-led United Trade Unions led a series of political strikes against the Allied Military Government in the Free Territory of Trieste?
Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 01:42, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Lonely Ol' Night
- ... that John Cougar Mellencamp's number-one rock song "Lonely Ol' Night" was inspired by the 1963 Paul Newman movie Hud?
Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 06:06, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Arbitration Act 1979
- ... that the English Arbitration Act 1979 was passed as the Prime Minister went to resign?
Created by Ironholds (talk). Self nom at 11:02, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Sex, Slander, and Salvation
- ... that Sex, Slander, and Salvation was published just before David Berg's death and the Love Charter's reorganization of the Family International?
Created by ResidentAnthropologist (talk). Self nom at 17:57, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 4
Andhra Pradesh Housing Board
A portrait of a middle-aged man with a yellow turban, a white sash from his right shoulder running across his chest and medals adorning his black Nehru jacket
- ... that Hyderabad-based Andhra Pradesh Housing Board, which was formerly known as City Improvement Board, was conceived by Nizam Osman Ali Khan, Asaf Jah VII (pictured) in 1911?
Created by Mspraveen (talk). Self nom at 08:56, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Andreas Pruys
- ... that in Bach's St John Passion in the Philharmonie Luxembourg, Christoph Prégardien was the Evangelist and Andreas Pruys sang the words of Christ?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 07:02, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Alan Reid (journalist)
- ... that Australian political journalist Alan Reid is credited for coining the term "36 faceless men"?
- ALT1:...that Australian political journalist Alan Reid's exposé about B. A. Santamaria led to the Australian Labor Party split of 1955?
Created by Graham87 (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 04:47, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Babe Borton
- ... that first baseman Babe Borton bribed opponents so that his team could win the 1919 Pacific Coast League championship?
5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 02:44, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Alfred C. Sikes
- ... that the great-great-great uncle of former Federal Communications Commission chairperson Alfred C. Sikes founded the city of Sikeston, Missouri?
5x expanded by Fetchcomms (talk). Self nom at 01:58, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
List of first overall NBA Development League draft picks
- ... that Nick Fazekas, the number one overall selection in the 2010 NBA Development League Draft, was a D-League All-Star before he was even picked?
Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 00:34, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Confederazione dei Sindacati Unici Classisti del Territorio libero di Trieste
- ... that it took the Titoist trade unionist in the Free Territory of Trieste over two years to form their own confederation, after the Soviet-Yugoslav split of 1948?
Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Cockfield F.C.
- ... that Cockfield Football Club, from the tiny "two-street pit village" of Cockfield, County Durham, was dubbed the "Village Wonder Team" after reaching the semi-finals of the FA Amateur Cup in 1923?
5x expanded by ChrisTheDude (talk). Self nom at 22:26, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Americanization School
- ... that the Americanization School (pictured) in Oceanside, California was built as part of historic assimilation programs aimed at Spanish-speaking immigrants?
Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 22:13, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Vic Tandy
- ... that Vic Tandy was the first researcher to link infrasound and ghosts together?
Created by Panyd (talk). Self nom at 21:18, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
BredoLab botnet
- ... that Dutch law enforcement officials used the BredoLab botnet against itself, by forcing it to send a warning to the 30 million computers it infected?
Created by Excirial (talk). Self nom at 21:12, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- ALT 1: ... that the BredoLab botnet infected over 30 million computers with a Trojan Horse, which makes it the largest botnet in history?
- The first suggestion is mainly an attempt to evade another "Largest botnet" focusing DYK hook, since i already submitted a few article's before using that "did you know" structure. Also, if anyone has a spare minute to proof-read the article, i would appreciate it. Seeing i have been multitasking writing and researching the subject, i just know there must be some more grammar issues here and there. Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 21:12, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
The Calling (Yes song)
- ... that the lyrics of Yes's last top-ten rock hit "The Calling" were inspired by singer Jon Anderson's concept of "local history"?
Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 18:58, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Fowey Lifeboat Station
- ... that Fowey Lifeboat Station was opened in the nearby village of Polkerris in 1859, and was not moved into the town of Fowey itself until 1922?
Created by Geof Sheppard (talk). Self nom at 17:02, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
St Mary Magdalene's Church, Battlefield
- ... that St Mary Magdalene's Church, Battlefield, Shropshire, (pictured) is built on the site of the Battle of Shrewsbury that took place in 1403?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:41, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Pilbara rail network
- ... that, with 1,300 kilometres (810 mi) of track, Rio Tinto's Pilbara rail network is the largest privately owned heavy freight rail network in Australia?
Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 14:35, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- Absolutely not. The hook is copied verbatim from [4]. This article also contains multiple copyvios. The "Trains" section, which I marked, is copied from [5]. In the "History" section, "would increase competition, stop infrastructure double-ups and reduce damage to sensitive native title and environmental regions" is copied from [6]. I ask that you cease encroaching upon the core policy of WP:COPYVIO. Whwya (talk) 08:01, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- See Talk:Pilbara rail network for more. Calistemon (talk) 08:48, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Yuri Alcantara
- ... that after beating the highly touted prospect Francisco "Massaranduba" Drinaldo via armbar, Yuri Alcantara was signed by World Extreme Cagefighting to appear on their last ever event?
Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 13:04, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Polavaram Project
- ... that though the Polavaram Project was conceptualized in 1941 by the erstwhile Madras Presidency, it obtained environmental clearance for construction only in 2005?
Created by Mspraveen (talk). Self nom at 12:52, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- ALT 1 ... that the intention of the Polavaram Project was not only to benefit a cultivated command area of 175,000 hectares (430,000 acres), but also to supply water to coastal city of Visakhapatnam?
- ALT 2 ... that because the Polavaram Project would submerge 246 villages, it attracted roadblocks from human rights and environmental activists, political parties and neighboring governments? Mspraveen (talk) 12:58, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Stradun (street)
- ... that Dubrovnik's historic main street Stradun (pictured) was the site of a tennis match played in July 2010 by Goran Ivanišević and John McEnroe?
Created by Timbouctou (talk). Self nom at 07:25, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Kapuas River twins
- ... that two major rivers of Borneo originate in the same area, flow in different directions, but have the same name?
- Comment: There are dozens of way to put it, and mine is likely far from the best. DYK check tool fails on one of the articles (for unknown reason) - if so, check size of pre/post expansion versions. Materialscientist (talk) 07:16, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 07:16, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that two major rivers of Borneo originate in the same mountain range, discharge into different seas, but have the same name?
- Can someone check/comment on this hook? SmartSE (talk) 00:24, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
- Sounds fine with me, thanks (but I am the nominator here).Materialscientist (talk) 09:32, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Imperial Wireless Chain
- ... that the Imperial Wireless Chain was a wireless telegraphy communications network, built in the 1920s to link the countries of the British Empire?
Created by Ivolocy (talk). Self nom at 02:48, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Lottie Kimbrough
- ... that American country blues singer Lottie Kimbrough, was described as "as one of the sizable talents of the 1920s blues tradition"?
Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 00:29, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- I think that a more attention grabbing one is ... American country blues singer Lottie Kimbrough was nicknamed "the Kansas City Butterball"? Just a suggestion.... Seddon talk|WikimediaUK 00:40, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
- The proposed alternative is just fine with me. To comply, I have added a couple of in-line citations following the 'nickname sentence'. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 11:54, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on November 5
Jordan Kovacs
- ... that American football safety Jordan Kovacs went from being a walk-on to being the second leading tackler in the Big Ten Conference?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 02:25, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Legion of Ratu Adil
- ... that the Legion of Ratu Adil was a pro-Dutch militia and private army established during the Indonesian National Revolution?
Created by Andykatib (talk). Nominated by Merbabu (talk) at 09:11, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
Special occasion holding area
- Do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, please nominate them in the candidate entries section above under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially-timed appearance on the Main Page.
- Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.
For November 7, 23rd Sunday after Trinity
Falsche Welt, dir trau ich nicht, BWV 52
- ... that Bach used the first movement of his Brandenburg Concerto No. 1 as a Sinfonia for his cantata Falsche Welt, dir trau ich nicht, BWV 52?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 23:30, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Good to go. BencherliteTalk 12:40, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
For November 24, 2010, Bihar legislative assembly election, 2010
- ... that the Bihar legislative assembly election, 2010 takes place across 6 phases and over a month?
5x expanded by Lihaas (talk). Self nom at 10:40, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
For December 10
This nomination has an unusual history, having been nominated originally for a date-specific spot on October 28. The discussion WT:DYK#Hook with Oct 28 request date explains the situation. Pursuant to that discussion, Paralympiakos and I request that the two articles Magomed Sultanakhmedov and Rafał Moks that were moved to article space on 24 October, now be held for a December 10 hook. These two mixed martial arts fighters were due to face each other in a championship bout on October 28; their bout was postponed at the last moment. On December 10, there will be three bouts for inaugural global championship (different weight divisions) and our intention is for a 6-article hook for that date. EdChem (talk) 02:59, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Original Nomination for October 28 - including a belated (and much appreciated) DYKtick from Strange Passerby
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Jointly Created by Paralympiakos (talk) and EdChem (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
A belated . Obviously now a new hook is needed though. Strange Passerby (talk • contribs) 10:59, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Moved from Special Holding Area - see WT:DYK for details. EdChem (talk) 02:29, 30 October 2010 (UTC) |
The goal 6-article hook would be something like:
- * ... that M-1 Global's welterweight (Tom Gallicchio vs. Shamil Zavurov) middleweight (Magomed Sultanakhmedov vs. Rafał Moks), and light heavyweight (Tomasz Narkun vs. Vyacheslav Vasilevsky) MMA Champions will be determined at M-1 Challenge XXII today?
Magomed Sultanakhmedov and Rafał Moks Jointly Created by Paralympiakos (talk) and EdChem (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC). Tom Gallicchio, Shamil Zavurov, Tomasz Narkun and Vyacheslav Vasilevsky Jointly Created by Paralympiakos (talk) and EdChem (talk). Self nom at TIME and DATE to follow.
- Updating work on these articles will be completed over the next few weeks in user space; the four new articles will be moved into article space in early December. EdChem (talk) 02:59, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Late December 2010
Cincinnati Riot of 1853
- … that the Cincinnati Riot of 1853 involved Germans objecting to the presence of an Italian preaching in French in the United States on Christmas Day?
This one is entirely Aymatth2's fault, as well. Uncle G (talk) 14:00, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- ALT:... that the Cincinnati Riot of 1853 involved Germans objecting to the presence of an Italian preaching in French in the United States on Christmas Day? {Let's save this hook for use on X'mas.} --174.89.163.171 (talk) 05:18, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Andrew McKinley
- ... that Andrew McKinley, David Aiken, and Leon Lishner created the parts of the three kings in the world premiere of Menotti's Christmas opera Amahl and the Night Visitors which was broadcast live by NBC to an audience of millions on Christmas Eve 1951?
Created by 4meter4 (talk). Self nom at 01:23, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- My plan is to make this a tripple nom with Aiken and Lishner. If reviewers could please hold off until those articles are also created, I would appriciate it. Also I would like this to be up at 7:00 PM New York City Time on Christmas Eve if possible, which is the place and time the original production was performed at its premiere.4meter4 (talk) 01:36, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Mark Miodownik
- ... that Mark Miodownik will deliver the first part of the Royal Institution Christmas Lectures tonight?
Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 23:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
He will give the lectures, spanning a few days, in "late December". I think they usually start a few days before Christmas. 2009 event was 21–25 December. There'll be more info as the event approaches of course. Christopher Connor (talk) 23:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
For January 1, 2011, Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation
- ALT1 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation represents the courage, valour, strength, cleanliness, truth, high moral standards and high level of motivation expected of FBI agents?
- ALT2 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation was first used on January 1, 1941 and represents the values, standards and history of the FBI and its agents?
Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under #Articles created/expanded on August 3). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal, which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
- Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification:
Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) sans image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?
--K10wnsta (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC) - Appended: I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:
- Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- - Tentative Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is so valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (chilled) censorship...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.
Could we put it up for 'On This Day' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC) - No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)- Comment This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under WP:IAR. Mjroots (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- Suggest scrapping this troublesome controversial DYK, the user that instigated the issue has also since retired, suggest retiring this idea as well. Off2riorob (talk) 13:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Would you please stop with your blatant pushing of the issue? Putting this off until January removes all controversy related to it. SilverserenC 13:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Your comment is just a simple personal attack, I have bigger fish to relentlessly pursue than this worthless disruptive DYK. Off2riorob (talk) 14:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- I support ALT2 for the 1 January date. The anniversary makes this a very good choice for that day. -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification:
I do not support 1 January 2011. The DYK section is for new articles. There are exceptions like April Fools and Halloween; I do not see the point of making every day of the year a possible exception. Geschichte (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Anniversary or not, a four-month wait at DYK is an overkill. The point of DYK is to present new or newly expanded articles, not to present "on this day". By then this article will be more than four months old. If this line of though is going to be followed, DYK is going to end up in a mess. The length of this entry is plain evidence for why keeping things around for almost five months is not a good idea. Arsenikk (talk) 13:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- per IAR. I would count this as a valid use of IAR. This could have gone up for today. The only reason it isn't going up is for political reasons. I disagree with Jimbo and others on that matter and think we should run it now, but there is no need to reject it entirely on that basis. NW (Talk) 03:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support as this would have been promoted in the usual time window if not for the decision to shelve it until the political heat was off. To kill it now because a delay was agreed to would be an egregious abuse of trust. - Dravecky (talk) 09:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose per Arsenikk. The UtahraptorTalk to me/Contributions 22:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
- Support per NuclearWarfare and Dravecky—Chris!c/t 20:05, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
- Support, per Chrishomingtang (talk · contribs). -- Cirt (talk) 06:13, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
- Support - This was initially nominated in a timely manner, with an image of the seal, but due to political considerations (public dispute between Wikimedia Foundation and the FBI over the use of the image of the seal) it was agreed that the image should not be used on the main page, and that the hook should be held and run at a later date, when the dispute was not so much in the news. The 60th anniversary of the first use of the seal makes a perfect tie-in, and while it is longer than DYK hooks are normally held for special occassions, Dravecky is correct that it would be egregious to reject it now on the basis of timing. cmadler (talk) 19:07, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
- Support - cmadler really sums up the issue for me. The circumstances of the original nomination and the fact of the 60th anniversary are significant enough that we ought to make an exception to the requirement that DYK items be from recently-created articles. -- Black Falcon (talk) 19:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
- Support I agree with NW, but don't think we need to IAR, considering that hooks are regularly kept back for months for the April fools and Halloween main pages. I don't think we should treat this any differently. Smartse (talk) 10:28, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
- Support - The Bushranger Return fireFlank speed 17:12, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- Conditional support if, and only if, the squabble with the feds is over. ScottyBerg (talk) 17:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
See also
- User:AlexNewArtBot/GoodSearchResult – This is an automated list of promising new articles generated by AlexNewArtBot (talk · contribs · logs).