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This template generates an error if it does not have a URL
As seen in Talk:Portland, Oregon, this template generates an error if it does not have a URL. I believe that this is because it is using {{cite web}}, which requires a URL. Not all publications derived from WP will have a URL. I suggest using {{citation}} instead. Does anyone see a drawback to making this change? – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:07, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- There's a different error at Talk:Aaron Ruben, where the url has had to be disguised because of the spam blacklist. This template needs to be more forgiving than the citation templates. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:43, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
- I worked around that URL restriction for you, since we should have the web address in there. It's not linked, but it can be copied and pasted. The restriction on blacklisted URLs is a feature of WP itself, not of the citation templates, as far as I know.
We need backwardscopy to handle many sources copying from us
Needs to handle at least 10 and than we just keep adding. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 21:10, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
- Away to automate this would be have a bot look for the templates at Category:Wikipedia article talk pages incorporating the backwardscopy template and exact the urls from the templates to create a list. -- PBS (talk) 12:03, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Clarify documentation and use with caution
I attempted to clarify the template's documentation. Rather than repeat myself here, I also pointed out some internal contradiction's in <!-- hidden comments -->
in the documentation's text. However, my primary concern is that the documentation does not give sufficient guidance on when to use the template, and when not to. The documentation indicates that the template should be used if the other publication may have copied from Wikipedia; it even says that a variant of this template should be used when the other publication's copying Wikipedia is "confirmed" (boldface in original), which implies that this template should be used when the other publication's copying Wikipedia is not confirmed. To put it bluntly, erroneously failing to tag a copyright violation by Wikipedia because of this template has more serious consequences than erroneously tagging original Wikipedia content as a copyright violation.—Finell 02:34, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Finell, it's not another template, it's a template redirect that summons the same code with a different name. The caution is against labeling unconfirmed instances of copying OR properly attributed copying from Wikipedia as "copyvio" (it is, in fact, a copyright issue to use content from Wikipedia elsewhere without attribution, but people should not be accusing others of copyright infringement without a fair degree of certainty and it isn't a copyright issue if they meet the licensing requirements).
- Wikipedia does not commit copyright violations, because Wikipedia is not a legal entity. :) Copyright infringements on Wikipedia are the responsibility of the individuals who placed them here. The Wikimedia Foundation that manages Wikipedia is not a publisher, but an online service provider and hence responsible only to the degree that it does not conform to OCILLA, including responding to validly formatted DMCA takedowns. I am personally sensitive to the problems of allowing copyright issues to remain anyway, not the least because of potential damage to copyright owners and to downstream reusers of our content.
- All that said, if you think more clarification is useful, I think making specifics explicit here instead of adding hidden comments to the documentation might be a good idea. The documentation for the template has been stable for a long time (and, in fact, I don't see that you actually added any hidden comments at all?). --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:24, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
Unclickable "link" in rendered template
Hi Jonesey95, John of Reading, or any (talk page stalker). At Talk:Planned Parenthood, the template renders: Click to show/hide further details., but it is not clickable (it is just plain text). Also, the template will render a show/hide link on other Talk pages I have seen this template used on and all that happens when you click on the show/hide link is that a one-line blank field of nothing opens up. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk}
23:54, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
- I fixed the message, which was confusing, and then I adjusted the template to provide a collapsible section only if
|comments=
was populated. For some (probably historical) reason, the existence of|title2=
was causing the collapsible section to exist, but the template shows up to three sources no matter what, so testing|title2=
didn't make sense (to me). I removed the test for|title2=
from the show/hide setting. Revert me if I did something wrong. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:43, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
"id" parameter
What's the "id" parameter for, and how should it be used? All the examples include "|id=123456789", but there's no explanation of it. TJRC (talk) 23:08, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
- See the section above Template talk:Backwards copy/Archive 1#Version number as parameter. Care to do the honours and document it? -- PBS (talk) 09:38, 14 July 2017 (UTC)