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== Annexed by the Soviet Union == |
== Annexed by the Soviet Union == |
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Is it neutral? Annexed states taked independense only at 1991? (Kazakhstan, Tajikstan, Kirgizstan) They had`nt statehood before. [[User:Sergoman|Sergoman]] ([[User talk:Sergoman|talk]]) 01:03, 9 May 2012 (UTC) |
Is it neutral? Annexed states taked independense only at 1991? (Kazakhstan, Tajikstan, Kirgizstan) They had`nt statehood before. [[User:Sergoman|Sergoman]] ([[User talk:Sergoman|talk]]) 01:03, 9 May 2012 (UTC) |
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== Allied vs satellite states == |
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I recently renamed the section in the template from "Allied states" to "Allied and satellite states", as many (but not all) of them were indeed satellites (primarily in Europe), per: |
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* Overwhelming support by [[WP:RS]]: The "satellite state" term is widely used in primary, secondary and tertiary; it's used by historians and institutions; [https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Heart_of_Europe/yWi-WLvY_v0C][https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Revising_History_in_Communist_Europe/FwPMDwAAQBAJ][https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1179/caj.1996.33.2.131][https://www.jstor.org/stable/45313651][https://www.jstor.org/stable/2608271] and countless number of other references; the term is used in the [[Eastern Bloc]] article itself (and related articles as well as their infoboxes); please also see the [[Satellite state]] article for more information and sources. |
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* It's [[WP:DUE]]: the sole use "allied" is misleading, as it suggests that the relevant states (East Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, etc) had sufficient ''independence'' and joined the alliance ''voluntarily''. That wasn't the case. |
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It seems that {{u|Mewulwe}} has a dissenting view, but I don't see it being backed by WP:RS. |
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excellent article. But I need more written— Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.27.56.227 (talk • contribs) September 20, 2011 1:15 (UTC)
Annexed by the Soviet Union
Is it neutral? Annexed states taked independense only at 1991? (Kazakhstan, Tajikstan, Kirgizstan) They had`nt statehood before. Sergoman (talk) 01:03, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
Allied vs satellite states
I recently renamed the section in the template from "Allied states" to "Allied and satellite states", as many (but not all) of them were indeed satellites (primarily in Europe), per:
- Overwhelming support by WP:RS: The "satellite state" term is widely used in primary, secondary and tertiary; it's used by historians and institutions; [1][2][3][4][5] and countless number of other references; the term is used in the Eastern Bloc article itself (and related articles as well as their infoboxes); please also see the Satellite state article for more information and sources.
- It's WP:DUE: the sole use "allied" is misleading, as it suggests that the relevant states (East Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, etc) had sufficient independence and joined the alliance voluntarily. That wasn't the case.
It seems that Mewulwe has a dissenting view, but I don't see it being backed by WP:RS.