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:::Both are the same level of humor-adjacent (i.e. not actually humorous) as ALT1. —[[User:David Eppstein|David Eppstein]] ([[User talk:David Eppstein|talk]]) 00:56, 11 January 2018 (UTC) |
:::Both are the same level of humor-adjacent (i.e. not actually humorous) as ALT1. —[[User:David Eppstein|David Eppstein]] ([[User talk:David Eppstein|talk]]) 00:56, 11 January 2018 (UTC) |
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::::Possibly but I am not sure we should be truncating it just to "Trump" and "Russia". We are supposed to be politically neutral. Given in full it is a valid standard hook that allows the reader to have their own "Aha" moment. Certainly Russia Row should be in full in any case. [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) 01:04, 11 January 2018 (UTC) |
::::Possibly but I am not sure we should be truncating it just to "Trump" and "Russia". We are supposed to be politically neutral. Given in full it is a valid standard hook that allows the reader to have their own "Aha" moment. Certainly Russia Row should be in full in any case. [[User:Philafrenzy|Philafrenzy]] ([[User talk:Philafrenzy|talk]]) 01:04, 11 January 2018 (UTC) |
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:::::There's nothing non-neutral about intriguing our readers using an opportunity that happens to present itself. If Uranium Street had run from Clinton Street to Russia Row, we'd be just as quick to offer ''...that '''Uranium''' is Clinton's connection to Russia?'' Jesus, a joke's a joke. [[User:EEng#s|<b style="color: red;">E</b>]][[User talk:EEng#s|<b style="color: blue;">Eng</b>]] 02:26, 11 January 2018 (UTC) |
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Trump Street
... that Trump is directly connected to Russia?Source: Any London Street map, or Google Maps, also mentioned here
- Comment: The hook plays on the tendency in US English to drop the "street" qualifiers (cf: Haight-Ashbury) to be grammatically correct.
Created by Edwardx (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Ritchie333 (talk) at 14:20, 9 January 2018 (UTC).
- I tried to think of something like ... that Trump's path to King runs through Russia, but I couldn't make it work and anyway there's no way to top the original hook. I bow down to its author. When it appears, beware of fools looking for excuses to pull it. EEng 18:26, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
- I remember an Arbcom case that resulted from a “joke” about Trump. I would ask the nominator to rethink this. Mr Ernie (talk) 18:54, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
- Wow! That was fast! EEng 19:52, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
- "In authoritarian countries, creators of artworks may remove material that their government might find controversial". Is that what we've been reduced to? —David Eppstein (talk) 20:07, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
- Wow! That was fast! EEng 19:52, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
For the faint of heart, or those thinking of ArbCom, or whatever, I'll offer:
- ALT 1 ... that Trump Street is directly connected to Russia Row?
- It's still funny this way, and all I did was un-pipe the links. --Tryptofish (talk) 23:58, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
- Wait! I've got it!
- With any luck we'll get our own tweet: "Failing Wikipedia, with its fake news..." Not a big problem, but some of the stuff at the end is sourced to non-RS websites and probably needs to go. Ritchie333, have you a preference? If so I suggest you strike the other two, and if your choice isn't ALT0 ping the reviewer for a new tick. EEng 20:33, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Go with ALT2, I think Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:08, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Before we ping the reviewer back, can Philafrenzy modify the Digimap ref to spell out a specific map that gives the hook information (adjacency of other two streets, direction of travel)? There must be a map number or something that can be added to the cite. EEng 21:32, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Done. Philafrenzy (talk) 23:15, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Before we ping the reviewer back, can Philafrenzy modify the Digimap ref to spell out a specific map that gives the hook information (adjacency of other two streets, direction of travel)? There must be a map number or something that can be added to the cite. EEng 21:32, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- Go with ALT2, I think Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:08, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- ALT 3 ... that Trump Street leads one way to Russia Row? (It's a one-way street in that direction since around 2000 as confirmed by modern maps and Google street view. Used to run in the opposite direction.) Philafrenzy (talk) 22:44, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
- ALT 4 ... that Trump Street leads directly to Russia Row? Philafrenzy (talk) 00:15, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- Both are the same level of humor-adjacent (i.e. not actually humorous) as ALT1. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:56, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- Possibly but I am not sure we should be truncating it just to "Trump" and "Russia". We are supposed to be politically neutral. Given in full it is a valid standard hook that allows the reader to have their own "Aha" moment. Certainly Russia Row should be in full in any case. Philafrenzy (talk) 01:04, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- There's nothing non-neutral about intriguing our readers using an opportunity that happens to present itself. If Uranium Street had run from Clinton Street to Russia Row, we'd be just as quick to offer ...that Uranium is Clinton's connection to Russia? Jesus, a joke's a joke. EEng 02:26, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- Possibly but I am not sure we should be truncating it just to "Trump" and "Russia". We are supposed to be politically neutral. Given in full it is a valid standard hook that allows the reader to have their own "Aha" moment. Certainly Russia Row should be in full in any case. Philafrenzy (talk) 01:04, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
- Both are the same level of humor-adjacent (i.e. not actually humorous) as ALT1. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:56, 11 January 2018 (UTC)