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== Requested move 19 July 2018 == |
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The result of the move request was: '''moved as requested''', per the discussion below. It was argued that the disambiguation page should be retained, and with it located at [[Western Catholic (disambiguation)]], this leaves the plain title free to either redirect to a primary topic or be converted to an article, as may be determined by editors in subsequent discussion. [[User:Dekimasu|Dekimasu]]<small>[[User talk:Dekimasu|よ!]]</small> 19:26, 26 July 2018 (UTC) |
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[[:Western Catholic]] → {{no redirect|Western Catholic (disambiguation)}} – [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]] being [[Latin Church]] (also known as ''Western Church''). Furthermore, per [[WP:CONSISTENCY]] with [[Catholic]], redirecting to [[Catholic Church]]. [[User:Chicbyaccident|Chicbyaccident]] ([[User talk:Chicbyaccident|talk]]) 15:51, 19 July 2018 (UTC) |
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*I have serious issues with this page as a disambiguation page: it actually only has one valid entry ([[Latin Church]]) because none of the other articles mention "Western Catholic" at all. I don't know for sure, but I strongly suspect that none of the subjects of the other entries are actually known as "Western Catholic" because if they were the articles would say so. I therefore propose instead that [[Western Catholic]] be overwritten with a '''redirect''' to [[Latin Church]]. [[User:Shhhnotsoloud|Shhhnotsoloud]] ([[User talk:Shhhnotsoloud|talk]]) 14:43, 20 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:: With your arguments, I would '''support''' that as a solution. [[User:Chicbyaccident|Chicbyaccident]] ([[User talk:Chicbyaccident|talk]]) 15:35, 20 July 2018 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' move to [[Western Catholic (disambiguation)]], as proposed. [[User:Sorabino|Sorabino]] ([[User talk:Sorabino|talk]]) 20:51, 23 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:*Keeping dab pages is cheap, but [[User:Sorabino|Sorabino]], are any of the other entries on the dab page actually referred to as (rather than possibly described as) "Western Catholic"? [[User:Dekimasu|Dekimasu]]<small>[[User talk:Dekimasu|よ!]]</small> 07:48, 26 July 2018 (UTC) |
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::Actually I'm wondering that two. However, at least step one should be to move it. [[User:Chicbyaccident|Chicbyaccident]] ([[User talk:Chicbyaccident|talk]]) 08:40, 26 July 2018 (UTC) |
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::*Yes, they are. Go to Google Scholar or Google Books search, fore example: [https://books.google.rs/books?id=k85JKr1OXcQC&pg=PA1484&dq=%22The+churches+of+the+Anglican+Communion+and+the+main+Old+Catholic+Churches+are+also,+and+legitimately,+Western+Catholic+Churches%22&hl=sr&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjF5KOj57zcAhUO3KQKHaTPAtgQ6AEIJjAA#v=onepage&q=%22The%20churches%20of%20the%20Anglican%20Communion%20and%20the%20main%20Old%20Catholic%20Churches%20are%20also%2C%20and%20legitimately%2C%20Western%20Catholic%20Churches%22&f=false An Introductory Dictionary of Theology and Religious Studies (2007): "The churches of the Anglican Communion and the main Old Catholic Churches are also, and legitimately, Western Catholic Churches"]. That quote is quite clear. [[User:Sorabino|Sorabino]] ([[User talk:Sorabino|talk]]) 12:57, 26 July 2018 (UTC) |
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::::{{reply to|Sorabino}} In which case, perhaps [[Western Catholic]] should be converted from the malformed disambiguation page that it is into an article that describes what "Western Catholic" means. Note that [[Western Catholic Church]] is currently a redirect to [[Latin Church]]. [[User:Shhhnotsoloud|Shhhnotsoloud]] ([[User talk:Shhhnotsoloud|talk]]) 15:49, 26 July 2018 (UTC) |
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== Problematic move == |
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There was no discussion and no consensus on this [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Western_Catholic_(disambiguation)&diff=872986506&oldid=853918414 move]. This was a valid and quite useful disambiguation page, and therefore it should be restored. [[User:Sorabino|Sorabino]] ([[User talk:Sorabino|talk]]) 13:48, 20 December 2018 (UTC) |
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* Corrected, per result of the discussion above. [[User:Sorabino|Sorabino]] ([[User talk:Sorabino|talk]]) 14:44, 16 March 2019 (UTC) |