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This article was boldly moved against consensus to Van Cortlandt Park–242nd Street (IRT Broadway–Seventh Avenue Line) on March 3, 2012 by [[User:TwinsMetsFan|TwinsMetsFan]]. The [[Wikipedia:WikiProject New York City Public Transportation/New York City Subway/Station naming convention|station naming convention]] prescribes spaces around endashes. A discussion was started at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New York City Public Transportation#Update naming convention?]] to see if consensus existed to change the naming convention to non-spaced endashes. That discussion has gone stale and there was no consensus for a change that would affect hundreds of article titles. I have moved page back to the spaced endashes per the naming convention. [[User:Acps110|Acps110]] <sup>([[User talk:Acps110|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Acps110|contribs]])</sup> 18:51, 25 May 2012 (UTC) |
This article was boldly moved against consensus to Van Cortlandt Park–242nd Street (IRT Broadway–Seventh Avenue Line) on March 3, 2012 by [[User:TwinsMetsFan|TwinsMetsFan]]. The [[Wikipedia:WikiProject New York City Public Transportation/New York City Subway/Station naming convention|station naming convention]] prescribes spaces around endashes. A discussion was started at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New York City Public Transportation#Update naming convention?]] to see if consensus existed to change the naming convention to non-spaced endashes. That discussion has gone stale and there was no consensus for a change that would affect hundreds of article titles. I have moved page back to the spaced endashes per the naming convention. [[User:Acps110|Acps110]] <sup>([[User talk:Acps110|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Acps110|contribs]])</sup> 18:51, 25 May 2012 (UTC) |
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:Reverted. Please read [[User talk:Acps110#en dashes|what I wrote on your talk page at the time again]]. Please reread [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/dash drafting#Spacing of endashes|the MOS amendment discussion to which you were referred at the time]], as well. Absent a specific amendment to the MOS allowing it, project NCs ''cannot'' create exceptions to the MOS as it is Wikipediawide policy. Consensus at the project is irrelevant. Discuss if you have anything but do not revert again or I shall seek move protection. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 02:33, 26 May 2012 (UTC) |
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- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Van Cortlandt Park–242nd Street (IRT Broadway–Seventh Avenue Line) → Van Cortlandt Park-242nd Street (IRT Broadway-Seventh Avenue Line) — According to WP:NC#Special characters, en dashes should not be used in titles of articles Imdanumber1 (talk • contribs) 18:56, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
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- Add # '''Support''' or # '''Oppose''' on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~. Please remember that this is not a vote; comments must include reasons to carry weight.
- Oppose. The common name, as seen on signs, is 242nd Street–Van Cortlandt Park. Platform signs place the "242 St" first and in larger text, and entrance signs omit the "Van Cortlandt Park". The MTA itself is inconsistent, using both orders and sometimes only "242 St". News articles, when they include the "Van Cortlandt Park" portion, almost always place it aftor "242nd Street". This includes a New York times article from last month: "Mr. Koppell agreed, saying that every night at the 242nd Street-Van Cortlandt Park subway station,..." --NE2 20:32, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
- Support. NE2, the issue here is the en-dash vs. hyphen, not the order of nomenclature components. Save the name order for another discussion. Larry V (talk | e-mail) 20:37, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
- Support due to the browser support issues regarding n-dashes. No opinion on moving back once the limitations are fixed. Tinlinkin 17:24, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
- Support For technical reasons. This is not about nomenclature. Nor is this a proposition to move it anywhere else. Pacific Coast Highway {talk • contribs} 17:56, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
- Support per technical reasons referenced above. alphachimp 15:21, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
This article has been renamed from Van Cortlandt Park–242nd Street (IRT Broadway–Seventh Avenue Line) to Van Cortlandt Park-242nd Street (IRT Broadway-Seventh Avenue Line) as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 06:17, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
You're right, Larry; I shouldn't have used the discussion of a move for technical reasons to bring in a different issue. Sorry about that. --NE2 08:01, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
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This article was boldly moved against consensus to Van Cortlandt Park–242nd Street (IRT Broadway–Seventh Avenue Line) on March 3, 2012 by TwinsMetsFan. The station naming convention prescribes spaces around endashes. A discussion was started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New York City Public Transportation#Update naming convention? to see if consensus existed to change the naming convention to non-spaced endashes. That discussion has gone stale and there was no consensus for a change that would affect hundreds of article titles. I have moved page back to the spaced endashes per the naming convention. Acps110 (talk • contribs) 18:51, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
- Reverted. Please read what I wrote on your talk page at the time again. Please reread the MOS amendment discussion to which you were referred at the time, as well. Absent a specific amendment to the MOS allowing it, project NCs cannot create exceptions to the MOS as it is Wikipediawide policy. Consensus at the project is irrelevant. Discuss if you have anything but do not revert again or I shall seek move protection. Daniel Case (talk) 02:33, 26 May 2012 (UTC)