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Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2015
Please change the kurdish percentage under demographics to 18% as the cia world factbook says which is given as source. https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/tu.html 87.164.0.237 (talk) 08:26, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
Move discussion
A move discussion with connection to this article is open at Kurdish languages' talk page. Khestwol (talk) 23:52, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
You should post it to portal of Turkey. kazekagetr 23:37, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
Motto
Turkey is a parliamentary representative democracy and Turkey's constitution governs the legal framework of the country. Due to that conditions, Motto of the Turkey should be rewritten again as "Sovereignty unconditionally belongs to the Nation". Please check the Wkipedia page: Sovereignty unconditionally belongs to the Nation — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.255.97.45 (talk) 10:43, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 2 August 2015
88.104.185.225 (talk) 19:15, 2 August 2015 (UTC)Turkey is responsible for helping the forces of Islamic state perpetrate genocide against the Kurdish people.
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 22:05, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
Banning the term 'Turkish Kurdistan' in this article
Turkish Kurdistan does not have to be an administrative division within the boundaries of today's Turkish Republic in order for it to be mentioned in the article. Turkish Kurdistan can simply have a geographical and historical connotation, and that's good enough for Wikipedia. Even the main page of Turkish Kurdistan calls it "unofficial name for the southeastern part of Turkey." So why should we prohibit in this article? Also, the map is a good indicator of the complex demographics of Turkey. I don't see why it should be removed. Étienne Dolet (talk) 19:52, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- The map is important, and useful to our readers. We mention the Kurdish minority in the article so a map showing where they are located is useful. This region is also in the news a lot these, so it's doubly useful. I also see no valid reason to no include it. Btw "Heimdallr of Assir" whatever is a sock of "Lord of Rivendell", so no need to take him seriously. Athenean (talk) 20:01, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Also, Heimdallr of Æsir made this revert with the following edit-summary:
Is it Turkish Kurdistan or Western Armenia? Both of them have the same map. You guys should better make up your mind, or you will start fighting each other over your conflicting irredentist dreams, which will never become true.
- Firstly, edit-summaries are not places to insult and inflame political tension. This is not a WP:BATTLEFIELD. Please refrain from doing so. I'd rather just comment on the substance of the edit-summary: the whole Turkish Kurdistan or Western Armenia debate. Both Armenian and Kurdish irrendentists view the Treaty of Sevres as their legal basis to the land found in Turkey. Kurdish land granted to the Kurdish delegation in Sevres is separate from the land granted to the Armenians. As you can see with a simple look at the map of the Treaty of Sevres, Kurdistan is just south of the land granted to Armenia. To put it simply, Armenians and Kurds do not claim land from one another. But I do not want to sway off-topic here. I would like to discuss my first comment, we can then move on. Étienne Dolet (talk) 20:10, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Also, Heimdallr of Æsir made this revert with the following edit-summary:
- The Treaty of Sevres (1920) was never ratified by the Ottoman Parliament and was later superseded by the Treaty of Lausanne (1923) following the Turkish War of Independence (1919-1922). Learn to live with this fact. Heimdallr of Æsir (talk) 22:08, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
The so-called Turkish Kurdistan and Western Armenia have the exact same map. Which one is true? The definition "Turkish Kurdistan" is misleading, because in Iraq and Iran, there are official regional administrations with the name "Kurdistan" (Iraqi Kurdistan and Iranian Kurdistan have official status and defined borders; but no such region or administration exists in Turkey, with no defined borders.) 88.251.101.249 (talk) 22:19, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- A treaty does not have to be ratified in order for it to be legal. Any legal scholar would dispute that.
- The Treaty of Laussane doesn't replace or rescind the Treaty of Sevres because not all of the signatories of the Treaty of Sevres were present at the Laussane conference, and that includes the Armenian and Kurdish delegations. The common misconception that the Treaty of Laussane replaces the Treaty of Sevres is a ploy made by the Turkish government to avoid land claims. However, this isn't something the international community believes. Turkey knows that. That's why its government tries so hard to have Armenia acknowledge the border between Armenian and Turkey. Also, this is one of the reasons why Turkey was the first country to acknowledge Armenia's independence so as to reaffirm its belief that today's Armenia is the only Armenia Turkey will ever put up with.
- I've already said that the maps don't criss-cross one another. Again, the legal basis to Armenian and Kurdish land claims is the Treaty of Sevres which seperates both Armenia and Kurdistan geographically. Étienne Dolet (talk) 22:33, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Your claim that the Treaty of Lausanne (1923) didn't supersede the never-ratified (it has no validity without the ratification of the Ottoman Parliament) Treaty of Sevres (1920) proves how DELUDED you are on this subject. There is a reason why the Great Powers of Europe signed the Treaty of Lausanne in 1923, instead of insisting for the Treaty of Sevres to be formally recognized by the Ankara government. Anyway, good luck to Armenia with its population of 2.9 million and GDP of $10.3 billion for realizing its dream of "sharing the eastern half of Turkey with the PKK". Would you like to have some Turkish coffee for waking up? 88.251.68.205 (talk) 22:44, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- Lest there are any doubts that this seemingly new maniac is a sock of the demented Shuppiluliuma (talk · contribs), here is a diff by one of his innumerable socks (Pantepoptes (talk · contribs)) that shows the same peculiar obsession with Armenia's 3 million people and 10 billion GDP [1] (though he has revised his figures somewhat). As this individual is banned, there is no need to engage him, and all edits, including to this talkpage, may be reverted on sight per WP:BAN, and are even exempt from WP:3RR per WP:3RRNO. Athenean (talk) 23:43, 13 September 2015 (UTC)