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::That's a recent change only on DAT, so very likely. [[User:Wxtrackercody|wxtrackercody]] <small>([[User talk:Wxtrackercody|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Wxtrackercody|contributions]])</small> 17:21, 1 February 2023 (UTC) |
::That's a recent change only on DAT, so very likely. [[User:Wxtrackercody|wxtrackercody]] <small>([[User talk:Wxtrackercody|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Wxtrackercody|contributions]])</small> 17:21, 1 February 2023 (UTC) |
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:::The NWS Lake Charles confirmed that two tornado tracks were actually 1. [[User:ChessEric|ChessEric]] ([[User talk:ChessEric|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:Contribs/ChessEric|contribs]]) 20:33, 6 February 2023 (UTC) |
:::The NWS Lake Charles confirmed that two tornado tracks were actually 1. [[User:ChessEric|ChessEric]] ([[User talk:ChessEric|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:Contribs/ChessEric|contribs]]) 20:33, 6 February 2023 (UTC) |
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== Warning for today (2/8/2023) == |
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I'm going to say this before anything happens today. I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY PREMATURE ARTICLES BEING MADE. This includes drafts. The premature creation of articles is basically someone who is trying to take all the credit for making it. I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT TODAY. PERIOD. That is all. [[User:ChessEric|ChessEric]] ([[User talk:ChessEric|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:Contribs/ChessEric|contribs]]) 16:49, 8 February 2023 (UTC) |
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Wow. The new interface is not good in my opinion. It makes the tornado table narrow, constricted, and no longer easy to read. Looks like we'll have to make a full summary for the Eutaw/Duncan, AL EF2 in the Jan 12 article because the table summary now takes up my entire computer monitor. Should we maybe consider doing away with the coordinates column? I really don't want to do that though, and I don't want to spare details in the table summaries either. Not really sure what to do besides utilize more full summaries and try to write as concisely as possible. This really is a bummer. TornadoInformation12 (talk) 03:27, 19 January 2023 (UTC)TornadoInformation12
- You can change back to the old interface under preferences>appearance. wxtrackercody (talk · contributions) 03:41, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, I switched it back. I don't think we need to change anything on the tables. United States Man (talk) 04:00, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- Ok I wondered if there was an opt out option available. That's a relief.
TornadoInformation12 (talk) 04:50, 19 January 2023 (UTC)TornadoInformation12
- I switched back immediately. My reaction to the new look was, "WTF?" XD ChessEric (talk · contribs) 22:29, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
Tornado total
Sorry 'bout that US Man. I probably did something wrong in my calculations, which resulted in me saying the totals were 98. Poodle23 (talk) 17:25, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- Gonna ping him so he can see this. @United States Man: Poodle23 (talk) 17:30, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
Possible Jan. 24 outbreak
We've got a tornado emergency for the southern Houston metro area tornado, putting this out there as the severe weather day develops in case we feel like starting a draft today. Penitentes (talk) 20:29, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- Deer Park looks like an EF2, but there was another tornado i caught on Ryan Halls livestream, and the debris ball looked like it had a bit of black in there (it was near DeQuincy, Louisiana).
- And yes, i know we don't pre-rate tornadoes, so please don't blast me with "don't assume it". Poodle23 (talk) 00:08, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- Should we? I mean, I've got some free time, but even after the Deer Park tornado and the Taylor Landing wedge, I feel not enough tornadoes have touched down to warrant even a draft. If you feel different and think we should get a draft going, that would be okay. Mjeims (talk) 00:50, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- Just wait for right now please. United States Man (talk) 02:29, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- Agreed. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 18:20, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- I second that. Poodle23 (talk) 18:21, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- Whoooo... I'm gonna say it once again, please don't blast me with "don't assume it", but we might make an article considering Deer Park was upgraded to an EF3 + it literally happened in one of the largest cities in the US. Poodle23 (talk) 21:57, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- I seriously doubt it. I know its a large metropolitan area, but there are not enough (at least, yet) surrounding tornadoes and reports of mass fatalities or injuries in Houston. It's a similar scenario to the Gaylord EF3 from last year: Very notable on its own, but not sufficient enough to get that article going. But, if we get more people that are with you on this one, I would happily get the draft going. Mjeims (talk) 22:05, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- This guy decided to make an article about the outbreak here, which i PRODed. Anyways, i guess we can just shrug that off for the most part. Poodle23 (talk) 02:43, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- I went ahead and sent it to AfD. It should get snowballed there. United States Man (talk) 02:56, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- "Snowballed" XD Poodle23 (talk) 02:57, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Well, WP:SNOW is an actual essay on WP. TornadoLGS (talk) 03:01, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- "Snowballed" XD Poodle23 (talk) 02:57, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- I went ahead and sent it to AfD. It should get snowballed there. United States Man (talk) 02:56, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- This guy decided to make an article about the outbreak here, which i PRODed. Anyways, i guess we can just shrug that off for the most part. Poodle23 (talk) 02:43, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- I seriously doubt it. I know its a large metropolitan area, but there are not enough (at least, yet) surrounding tornadoes and reports of mass fatalities or injuries in Houston. It's a similar scenario to the Gaylord EF3 from last year: Very notable on its own, but not sufficient enough to get that article going. But, if we get more people that are with you on this one, I would happily get the draft going. Mjeims (talk) 22:05, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- Just wait for right now please. United States Man (talk) 02:29, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
Its only 26 days into the new year, and I've already seen multiple disputes between what photos should be added, which photos should be combined into one thumbnail, which photos should be removed, which photo is better, and even whether or not a photo is a candidate for deletion. This is sickening, especially with radar shots since a lot of those images are literally the exact same thing (this thing where we want. Also, if US Man has to ask me to solve ANY sort of dispute you guys have, then there are some SERIOUS problems (dude has never asked me favors until the dispute over the Tornado outbreak of January 12, 2023 meteorological synopsis photo). Please get it together people. We are already having trouble with IPs again, and the LAST thing we need is to have silly disputes over photos and the captions they have. Also, no personal attacks. That's just rude. Stop acting like being behind a screen and not directly talking to someone as an excuse to say whatever the heck you want. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 22:03, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah. This problem is most common with Nick, who uses the windspeed ranges that the "general public" accept; for example, he considers 125 mph winds "mid-range" EF2, which i think is nonsense. Poodle23 (talk) 22:45, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- I think it wasn't crazy reasoning—125 mph is right in the middle of the 111-135 mph range—but the survey did describe the daycare damage as high-end EF2. So what's the right approach? Only use terms like "low-end" or "high-end" when the NWS or another authority does? There should be some kind of consistency, especially when damage is already assigned a rating and windspeed to work with, without ending up over-classifying everything. Penitentes (talk) 23:27, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- I think you are reading too much into what was probably a simple mistake from surveyors. Possibly a mental error caused one person to write "high-end" when another person assigned 125 to it. Not a big deal. United States Man (talk) 01:40, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- I think it wasn't crazy reasoning—125 mph is right in the middle of the 111-135 mph range—but the survey did describe the daycare damage as high-end EF2. So what's the right approach? Only use terms like "low-end" or "high-end" when the NWS or another authority does? There should be some kind of consistency, especially when damage is already assigned a rating and windspeed to work with, without ending up over-classifying everything. Penitentes (talk) 23:27, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Also, let's only try to add long captions to small images 2 or 3 times in every tornado year article. Poodle23 (talk) 22:53, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
Stop pointing fingers guys. Everyone needs to evaluate their actions in these situations. This is why I ALSO said that these type of disputes should go into the talk page. Still, I'm tired of seeing disputes over images! Enough is enough. If you guys can't do that, then what's the point of even adding them? You might as well put every image you want to add onto the talk pages to discuss their inclusion into articles before adding them in, which is a HUGE waste of time. Again, get it together people. I don't to be dealing with this all year. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 15:36, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
Personally Image/caption disputes needs to stop. Its silly and absolutely ridiculous, and I agree with Eric above. Lets edit Wikipedia without having a inage/caption dispute please. (Y'all probably never saw my username but I'm very new and hoping to help in any way in the future) Fairlydaisy04 (talk) 17:44, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Fairlydaisy04: Welcome! I hope we can get along! ChessEric (talk · contribs) 18:15, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
Thanks! Fairlydaisy04 (talk) 19:49, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
SPC Tornado count for January
SPC tweeted earlier today that there was 124 tornadoes during January. We only have 123, so we are missing one somewhere and I have no idea where/when it was. Elijahandskip (talk) 16:42, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- According to their chart we're missing an EF1. Might it be the Louisiana 1/24 EF2 track that was originally thought to be a separate EF2 and EF1? Penitentes (talk) 16:59, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
- That's a recent change only on DAT, so very likely. wxtrackercody (talk · contributions) 17:21, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
Warning for today (2/8/2023)
I'm going to say this before anything happens today. I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY PREMATURE ARTICLES BEING MADE. This includes drafts. The premature creation of articles is basically someone who is trying to take all the credit for making it. I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT TODAY. PERIOD. That is all. ChessEric (talk · contribs) 16:49, 8 February 2023 (UTC)