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::At least the Baja's bodywork is different. "Outback" is mere marketing. [[User:Mr.choppers|<span style="background:#007FFF;font-family:Times New Roman;color:#FDEE00">''' ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ '''</span>]] ([[User Talk:Mr.choppers|talk]]) 07:06, 13 May 2012 (UTC) |
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Outback Sport "introduced in 1998"
I'm confused about this, as the Subaru Outback Sport which I drive is a model year 1997. Since model years tend to start before calendar years, I'm inclined to believe it was introduced in at least 1996. Someone who knows, please either make this correct or explain away my confusion. 24.237.121.207 20:56, 12 September 2006 (UTC) hg
- My friend has a '96 Impreza Outback Sport.
Also, the picture of the "1st-generation Outback SUS" is really of the 2nd-generation Outback sedan. Rhettro76 22:15, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
WPOV
Can somebody re-write the introduction with a world point of view? The Outback is marketed in many countries other than the US, but the introduction makes it sound like a US-only model. Paul Fisher 13:19, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
production
When the production of this vehicle started?? Main box:Production 1996–present, First generation Production 1995–1999 and Outback to the US market in 1994 ?? this is quite confusing.--— Typ932T | C 20:45, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Subaru Outback Sport
This vehicle was scattered over this site and the Impreza site, and after an image of the 3rd generation Outback Sport was added to the Impreza site, it seemed time to create a special section of the Outback Sport on this page. Subaru seems to use the Outback name as a special descriptor of both the Legacy and the Impreza, so it seemed logical to move the images and information to this article. Curiously, Subaru doesn't offer a Forester Outback or, God help us, Tribeca Outback. (Dddike (talk) 20:33, 4 February 2008 (UTC))
The 2.2 was the only engine in the OBS from 1997-though the intro of the 2.5, correct? Proscriptus (talk) 15:50, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, you are correct; the 1.8 was never available in the OBS and the article has been corrected. (Regushee (talk) 18:10, 24 November 2008 (UTC))
Pictures
Do we really need so many pictures of the Outback Sport? Especially given that
- a) several of the year models are identical and
- b) some of the pictures are of very inferior quality and
- c) the Outback Sport seems to be a USA-only renaming of an Impreza trim line which went by other names in other markets.
- (In fact I question whether it should be included on the Outback page at all, but that's a separate argument)
- Paul Fisher (talk) 09:31, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
- Was this coloring scheme used in Australia and Europe? It doesn't seem to make sense to integrate the Outback Sport on the Impreza page, just as the Outback isn't integrated into the Legacy page, and it seems like the "Outback" badge is used to identify Subaru's crossover line.
- There is also an extremely limited amount of information on the Impreza Gravel Express, other than vehicles currently for sale on-line in New Zeeland, and if it wasn't for the photo uploaded into Wikimedia, I doubt anyone would have discovered it. Mechanically speaking, the Outback is identical to the Legacy, with the only diference being a lifted ride height and appearance changes. However, the Outback has its own page and the information listed is a duplicate of the information found for the Legacy. I suppose, if someone wanted to devote the time, they could start a new page for the Outback Sport, duplicating the information found for the Impreza without the turbo to remain consistent.(Dddike (talk) 16:12, 8 February 2008 (UTC))
- The same vehicle was sold in Australia as the Impreza RV. [1] [2] Note from the NRMA review it was originally intended to be called the Outback Sport but that name was dropped to prevent confusion with the real Outback. It wasn't regarded as an Outback, but a tarted-up Impreza. The Liberty-based Outback has always had a distinctive identity, but the RV was just another Impreza. Paul Fisher (talk) 22:43, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Head Gasket issues
I know it's mentioned on the Subaru Legacy page, but shouldn't the problems with the early 2.5L engines' head gaskets be listed here too? They affect a significant number of the cars (10%-15%, from subaruoutback.org forums[3]) built before 2000.123.243.67.1 (talk) 04:46, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
references and introduction
The article needs references.
Also, the introduction doesn't really introduce the Outback... it starts off full speed with data that's far too specific. It needs to move from "general" to "specific." 842U (talk) 13:08, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Guess who won Motortrends 2010? SOTY
the subaru outback that's who. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.17.201.80 (talk) 06:15, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
See link to the pictured vehicle's Monroney label [4]. Note that it is labeled as a 2.5i Limited, even without a sunroof. IFCAR (talk) 20:01, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
misc changes
"Legacy Outback" is still the name used for marketing in Japan. there are other bits & pieces that I've edited, but the scope (for change) is much larger than I realized. I got lazy and stopped.
anyway, how about tables showing the similarities and differences between Outback in different markets instead of mouth-full of (repeating) text? and detail the changes between model years of the same platform, etc? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Virtual bob (talk • contribs) 05:23, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Subaru Outback Sport
Why the Subaru Outback Sport is included here? It is only assciated with Outback in name only. Isn't it just an Impreza hatchback with some plastic side claddings and a higher ridding height? ---North wiki (talk) 01:46, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
- Is this WP:OTHERSTUFF? Then why not consider to merge Outback with Legacy if that IS the proper way? ---North wiki (talk) 14:08, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- I think the Outback sport should definitely be merged into the Impreza article, and it would make sense to merge the Outback wagon into the Legacy article. Bookster451 (talk) 01:52, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
The Outback name is a trim package used by Subaru to denote special features installed on the Legacy and the Impreza. Mechanically, the Outback and Outback Sport are identical to the Legacy and the Impreza. The main difference is the lifted ground clearance on the Outback and recently the same approach is now used on the Impreza XV, which is the Outback Sport package used in North America. The idea to merge the articles has been proposed, but the articles remain separated. Combining the articles would also greatly increase the size of the Legacy and Impreza articles considerably, not to mention that there are separate articles for the Impreza WRX and WRX-Sti. Having the Outback trim package as its own article has so far worked well, with one or two suggestions for merge per year.(Regushee (talk) 20:25, 29 March 2012 (UTC))
Confusing overlap with impreza and legacy
To users who are unfamiliar with the legacy and impreza, this article could be very confusing. I propose either merging both the outback sport and legacy outback back into their respective articles or seperate the outback sport and legacy outback into seperate articles. Any opinions? Bookster451 (talk) 23:56, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
- The link at the top of the article for the Impreza suggesting readers go to "Subaru Outback" has been changed to read "Subaru Outback Sport", which takes the reader directly to the Outback Sport Article. Let's see how long it lasts before someone decides to change it (Regushee (talk) 20:27, 29 March 2012 (UTC))
- Ok, well even to readers who DO understand it, the whole setup is a mess. We have one article stating it is a dedicated model of the legacy in station wagon form, yet the bottom has an almost completely unrelated vehicle, and said vehicle has no info for the hatchback- "Outback Sport" on it's own Impreza page. I suggest to change this page into explaining the name "outback" as a trim level name, or merge both vehicles back into their respective pages. Bookster451 (talk) 01:29, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Support de-merge. Subaru XV (or Outback Sport) has nothing to do with the Legacy or Outback. Very confusing article. Warren (talk) 17:03, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Re-prioritize article
The article gives off the impression that the Outback is it's own unique Subaru model, and then there's the Outback Sport. Regushee made a good point stating the name "Outback" is a trim level used for the Impreza hatchback and Legacy wagon. So, I suggest the article be reworded to describe the name "Outback" as a trim level. If not, the Outback sport should be split off into another article. Bookster451 (talk) 01:04, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
- Outback belongs with Legacy article and Outback Sport or XV needs reuniting with the Impreza article. No need for an Outback article at all. Warren (talk) 17:06, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
- Subaru has marketed the Outback and Legacy as distinct models, even from the current Legacy wagon, even though the Outback is based off the Legacy platform. Therefore, this article should talk about this distinct model (like it had been). The Outback Sport disambiguation (to the Impreaza) could just be a {{about}}, {{for}} or {{redirect}}. --O (talk • edits) 05:34, 15 April 2012 (GMT)
- Subaru marketing the Outback as a different model does not change the almost 100 percent parts interchangeability with the Legacy. What are the differences? Different bumpers, wheels, badging, increase ground clearance, and that's about it. So why have two articles stating the same thing twice just because of what Subaru's marketing department does? The concept is no different to the Audi A6 Allroad (which should also be merged), the VW Passat All-Trac, and the Skoda Octavia Scout. OSX (talk • contributions) 06:11, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed in full (with Bookster and OSX). ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 16:44, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
- Those examples have been discussed previously. Also, I also agree with Bookster and OSX.--Pineapple Fez 07:15, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
- The Audi S and RS models, well we're getting there. I've personally merged the S8 article, plus several AMG and BMW M articles, but I still need to win over a few more fans before we can do away with the WRX and WRX STI pages (again, a work in progress).
- The merger of the Outback also reminded me of the Audi allroad quattro, which has now been merged with Audi A6. OSX (talk • contributions) 11:56, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
This alteration of this article is vastly diminishing the information available for the significant, specific trim and equipment of Outback models. Another flaw is that the Legacy model years in the Legacy article do not match the generations represented in all markets. Thus, people seeking information on a BE/BH of model year 2004 in North America are being confused by being presented that their car generation ended in 2003. End consumers normally do NOT know platform designations, in most parts of the world, they only know the model year designation. If you are going to merge this into the other articles, you could also take time to help maintain the level of information and the accuracy of information for all suitable regions of the world. Is the article for the Subaru Baja facing the same destiny? 76.14.240.12 (talk) 18:21, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for bringing forward your concerns. I have addressed most of these when replying to your other comment at Talk:Subaru Legacy—please see my response here.
- I would like to see the Baja merged as well but that is a separate issue. OSX (talk • contributions) 07:55, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- At least the Baja's bodywork is different. "Outback" is mere marketing. ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃ (talk) 07:06, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
Don't violate WP guidelines
Do not revert edits to this article without a legitimate reason and opinions from others. As said here, controversial edits need to be discussed before being made. ~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bookster451 (talk • contribs) 00:42, 9 April 2012 (UTC)