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In fact, the entire recently added section appears to be drawing one sided conclusions from elderly sources which have been investigated far more fully in more recent years by historians of note. ([[User:Hohum|<font color="Green">'''Hohum'''</font>]] [[User talk:Hohum|<font color="Red"><sup>@</sup></font>]]) 19:58, 2 April 2010 (UTC) |
In fact, the entire recently added section appears to be drawing one sided conclusions from elderly sources which have been investigated far more fully in more recent years by historians of note. ([[User:Hohum|<font color="Green">'''Hohum'''</font>]] [[User talk:Hohum|<font color="Red"><sup>@</sup></font>]]) 19:58, 2 April 2010 (UTC) |
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: No, you got it wrong. The Hastings citation (123) that you're complaining about refers in fact to "nearly half a million German civilians, their dwellings and possessions were destroyed,[123] |
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As regards "historians of note" whom you refer to: Why do you not source your observation and add content to relevant section (which was sadly neglected previously? [[User:Communicat|Communicat]] ([[User talk:Communicat|talk]]) 19:37, 5 April 2010 (UTC) |
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missing stuff
Article seems to completely miss Soviet Union (bombing of Helsinki and Tallinn for example) and Italy that also conducted some strategic bombing, although on smaller scale then UK or USA.--Staberinde (talk) 10:56, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes, and no mention of Allied bombings on Normandy, Royan, etc... in France. Saciperere (talk) 18:46, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, this article is wholly unsatisfactory in that it does not cover the breadth stated in the title. It really covers Germany, UK and U.S. bombing in Europe, with scant attention paid elsewhere. I think this article should be a brief overview containing one- or two-paragraph summaries of the various strategic bombing efforts, with the aim being that the reader will go the main article describing specific campaigns in more detail. Binksternet (talk) 19:26, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
effect of the bombing campaingn
This is my edit (wishartjr]. Sorry for the spelling errors - i am portuguese and english, but live in Portugal.
The effects, although not crippling, were very important to undermine the military production of Nazi Germany. The weapons intended to be sent to the Eastern Front, in order to easy military operations of counter-attack, were denied by the destruction of the factories. This is all explained in the book "Why the Allies won", by Richard Overy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wishartjr (talk • contribs) 12:07, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
- There's considerable debate on the effects of bombing, including on production. And attacking transport infrastructure, thereby inhibiting movement of fuel and (produced) weapons would have been less costly in casualties (on all sides) & more effective. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 21:12, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, and most of the high-level German officers interviewed after the war said that it was the bombing campaign that was the single largest cause of their defeat. Binksternet (talk) 21:40, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
- It's also been suggested the Germans told the interrogators what they wanted to hear. Based on Terraine's Right of the Line (at least), bombing effectiveness is very much in question, regardless of German claims. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 00:47, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
Refs sequence out of synch
Refs numbering sequence appears to be awry for some reason. Not me. Communicat (talk) 11:53, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
Hastings usage
Hastings appears to be used as a corroborative source to the phrase attributed to the BBSU "Far from there being any evidence of a cumulative effect on (German) war production, it is evident that, as the (bombing) offensive progressed ... the effect on war production became progressively smaller (and) did not reach significant dimensions"
In the book cited, Hastings doesn't draw that conclusion - and says "In the last phase of the war, between October 1944 and May 1945, the Allied strategic-bomber forces played a dominant part in bringing the German economy to the point of collapse." (Bomber Command, p. 327)
In fact, the entire recently added section appears to be drawing one sided conclusions from elderly sources which have been investigated far more fully in more recent years by historians of note. (Hohum @) 19:58, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
- No, you got it wrong. The Hastings citation (123) that you're complaining about refers in fact to "nearly half a million German civilians, their dwellings and possessions were destroyed,[123]
As regards "historians of note" whom you refer to: Why do you not source your observation and add content to relevant section (which was sadly neglected previously? Communicat (talk) 19:37, 5 April 2010 (UTC)