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*'''Too vague''' - This RfC is unlikely to lead to a consensus because the question posed is vague. "the anti-Semitic remarks" is undefined and open ended. I suggest starting over with a clear content proposal.- [[user: MrX|Mr]][[user talk:MrX|X]] 12:48, 14 November 2016 (UTC) |
*'''Too vague''' - This RfC is unlikely to lead to a consensus because the question posed is vague. "the anti-Semitic remarks" is undefined and open ended. I suggest starting over with a clear content proposal.- [[user: MrX|Mr]][[user talk:MrX|X]] 12:48, 14 November 2016 (UTC) |
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::: Agreed. [[User:Snooganssnoogans|Snooganssnoogans]] ([[User talk:Snooganssnoogans|talk]]) 12:55, 14 November 2016 (UTC) |
::: Agreed. [[User:Snooganssnoogans|Snooganssnoogans]] ([[User talk:Snooganssnoogans|talk]]) 12:55, 14 November 2016 (UTC) |
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::: I propose that we something along these lines to the lede (IP accounts deleted it last night): "Under Bannon, Breitbart News espoused racist conspiracy theories, and anti-Semitic and nationalist views.<ref name=":4">{{Cite news|url=http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-names-rnc-chair-reince-priebus-chief-staff-sources-n683276|title=Reince Priebus will be Donald Trump's chief of staff|newspaper=NBC News|access-date=2016-11-14}}</ref><ref name=":5">{{Cite news|url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/steve-bannon-donald-trump-breitbart-alt-right-president-elect-a7415556.html|title=Steve Bannon: the alt-right media baron who has the ear of the President-elect|date=2016-11-14|newspaper=The Independent|language=en-GB|access-date=2016-11-14}}</ref>" [[User:Snooganssnoogans|Snooganssnoogans]] ([[User talk:Snooganssnoogans|talk]]) 12:58, 14 November 2016 (UTC) |
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Can someone add a picture of him? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GorillazWarfare (talk • contribs) 00:25, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
Conservative
I've added to the lede that he is a conservative, per two reliable sources. -- Scjessey (talk) 19:38, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- This is beyond childish. The addition of a comma fixes it, but childishly edit warring was chosen instead. Unbelievable. -- Scjessey (talk) 21:23, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- Your edit doesn't have WP:CONSENSUS. Both User:Capitalismojo and I have now reverted it. Rather than editing warring, I would recommend making a policy-based case for inclusion here on the talk page. Safehaven86 (talk) 22:08, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- You are wrong. The two of you reverted different versions. I have produced solid sources, and the guy is a major conservative political operative (perhaps even the conservative operative) in American politics. You are just edit warring because you don't like it. -- Scjessey (talk) 00:28, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- We are not required to use the exact language of our sources. In fact, we are expected to paraphrase. Does anyone really want to argue that the subject of this article is not conservative? Also, please see WP:DRNC. Hugh (talk) 01:46, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- Your edit doesn't have WP:CONSENSUS. Both User:Capitalismojo and I have now reverted it. Rather than editing warring, I would recommend making a policy-based case for inclusion here on the talk page. Safehaven86 (talk) 22:08, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- If he is the major conservative operative in the U.S., as stated above, I'm sure that would be thoroughly discussed in the body of the article...oh wait. Huh. Safehaven86 (talk) 06:03, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- In BLPs we have to have refs, reliable source refs, that support the material. We can't include editor's suppositions or theories about people. Policy doesn't allow it. Specifically the ref doesn't say it. Titles of articles are not RS. Capitalismojo (talk) 14:33, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- You obviously didn't even bother to read the two references I provided. For example, one of them said, "But in February he moved into office space in Santa Monica that is being provided gratis by a friend of his, Stephen K. Bannon, who is a conservative filmmaker and a former Goldman Sachs banker." Why don't you want it to say "conservative" in the lede? -- Scjessey (talk) 21:32, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- In BLPs we have to have refs, reliable source refs, that support the material. We can't include editor's suppositions or theories about people. Policy doesn't allow it. Specifically the ref doesn't say it. Titles of articles are not RS. Capitalismojo (talk) 14:33, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Just a few sources indicating Bannon's conservative credentials (and I threw in extreme conservative sources as well). As the head of conservative Breitbart, an award winner from the conservative Liberty Film Festival (and a member of their advisory board) and a charter member of the conservative Groundswell group -- there appears to be a lot missing on the subject. Per the suggestion above, this should really be added to the body of the article. But until then, simply adding the uncontroversial "conservative" factoid doesn't require any more substantiation than his middle initial or place of birth. It just needs to be properly sourced. (I added a source in which he self-identifies as a conservative filmmaker.)
Xenophrenic (talk) 21:53, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- Most of the sources listed above don't approach being WP:RS status. The idea that being conservative is "the driving position behind his entire career" is a subjective opinion not supported by the available RS. I agree it's notable and his self-identification should be presented in the article, which we're currently doing. But the effort to put it in the lead strikes me as incredibly ironic given that the editors pushing for that made loads of arguments against a somewhat similar proposed edit here Talk:Media Matters for America#Lead description. You could take all of the same arguments you all made there as reasons not to include conservative here. It frankly seems a bit WP:POINTY. Safehaven86 (talk) 18:01, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Indeed. No one has made any policy-based arguments for why it is WP:DUE to add a conservative characterization to the first sentence of the article. Based on the available WP:RS, it seems like a notable fact to include in the article, which we have done, yet no one has offered a policy or source-based argument that being conservative is the #1 most notable thing about this individual. As such, the edits (and the editing behavior of WP:WIKISTALKING me) seem WP:POINTY. Safehaven86 (talk) 18:19, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- The policy-based argument you are looking for is plain for all to see. Stephen Bannon is a notable conservative. Indeed, his conservatism (and conservatism activism) is the most significant feature of his biography, because most reliable sources writing about the individual are doing so because he is a significant conservative political operative. It would be an astonishing violation of WP:UNDUE to pretend this isn't his most significant biographical feature. Are you denying these clear facts? And to whom are you addressing your bad faith accusation of wikistalking? My first edit here came about because I read an article about this man I'd never heard of before in Bloomberg Politics. -- Scjessey (talk) 20:29, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Indeed. No one has made any policy-based arguments for why it is WP:DUE to add a conservative characterization to the first sentence of the article. Based on the available WP:RS, it seems like a notable fact to include in the article, which we have done, yet no one has offered a policy or source-based argument that being conservative is the #1 most notable thing about this individual. As such, the edits (and the editing behavior of WP:WIKISTALKING me) seem WP:POINTY. Safehaven86 (talk) 18:19, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- It looks to me like this person has a pretty far-reaching biography--military, film, investment banking, politics, media. If you want to say that his conservatism is the most significant feature of his biography, than you'd need to find a source that says that. It's not clear that that's the case from the sourcing, and it's not our job to decide what he's most notable for. Champaign Supernova (talk) 22:21, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- The sources already in use in the article make it clear. He's a conservative film maker, a conservative political operative, a conservative media mogul. The sources already say those things, but there seems to be a desire to ignore this fact by certain editors. I find it very peculiar. -- Scjessey (talk) 22:30, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- I get what you are saying, but the sources don't say his conservatism is the most notable thing about him. You're personally of the view that it is, only the sources don't say that. Therefore it's POV. Champaign Supernova (talk) 23:47, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Maybe it is true the sources don't specifically state his conservatism is the most notable thing about him (although two of them arguably do), but they certainly indicate his conservatism is significant enough that it should be in the lede. Most sources describing his as a film maker, for example, say conservative film maker. Even his own website claims this. -- Scjessey (talk) 11:56, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- By my reading of the sources, he's most often noted as a conservative filmmaker (including by his own company, as you say above), but not particularly as a conservative businessman, etc. That's why I made this [1] edit. Champaign Supernova (talk) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- That seems appropriate to me. Thank you. -- Scjessey (talk) 17:21, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- That seems fine to me as well. Capitalismojo (talk) 20:52, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- Yay! Consensus! Now we need to work on world peace. -- Scjessey (talk) 12:42, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
- Whirled peas? I love whirled peas. Capitalismojo (talk) 17:22, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
- Yay! Consensus! Now we need to work on world peace. -- Scjessey (talk) 12:42, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
- That seems fine to me as well. Capitalismojo (talk) 20:52, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- That seems appropriate to me. Thank you. -- Scjessey (talk) 17:21, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- By my reading of the sources, he's most often noted as a conservative filmmaker (including by his own company, as you say above), but not particularly as a conservative businessman, etc. That's why I made this [1] edit. Champaign Supernova (talk) 14:42, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- Maybe it is true the sources don't specifically state his conservatism is the most notable thing about him (although two of them arguably do), but they certainly indicate his conservatism is significant enough that it should be in the lede. Most sources describing his as a film maker, for example, say conservative film maker. Even his own website claims this. -- Scjessey (talk) 11:56, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- I get what you are saying, but the sources don't say his conservatism is the most notable thing about him. You're personally of the view that it is, only the sources don't say that. Therefore it's POV. Champaign Supernova (talk) 23:47, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- The sources already in use in the article make it clear. He's a conservative film maker, a conservative political operative, a conservative media mogul. The sources already say those things, but there seems to be a desire to ignore this fact by certain editors. I find it very peculiar. -- Scjessey (talk) 22:30, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
This is a disruptive pattern in Wikipedia and can be called the "health warning" labelling. I brought it up on MOS talk page a while ago but not too many were interested. Usually (without pointing any fingers) in the US political wikiscene, editors with a liberal slant are adding the descriptor "conservative" to articles and editors with conservative slant are adding "liberal". The obvious aim is to show "hey, this guy's atleast not neutral and no authority on the subject". --Pudeo' 12:06, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
- I think it is appropriate when "conservativeness" or "liberalness" is a notable characteristic of an individual (or an organization, for that matter). -- Scjessey (talk) 12:17, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
- I think it is helpful to surface disruptive editing patterns, but this particular dust-up simply involves understanding that the lede summarises the article, the lede sentence summarizes the most notable aspects of the subject, and the article summarizes reliable sources. I don't see any attempt to undermine anyone's authority. Hugh (talk) 17:44, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
- "this guy's at least not neutral and no authority on the subject". That comment doesn't even make sense. Someone who is "neutral" is an idiot and not worth their own existence, and a right-wing conservative like Bannon would be an authority on right-wing conservatism and its causes. That's what makes sense, and documenting it is not a put down or slur. It's simple fact. I doubt that Bannon is ashamed of his right-wing conservative views, and editors need not defend him. Such defense is a disservice to him.
- Everyone has biases, and those involved in politics and political activism, be they right-wing or left-wing, make a point of pushing those agendas, and that is a perfectly legitimate endeavor. Society demands that various POV fight for their right to be heard. Bannon has taken over the banner after Breitbart as a right-wing conservative running BNN.
- I don't understand why this would even be controversial. It's childish, and I get the feeling that some children (literally) are involved here. I have nothing against young editors (I have met an administrator who was 13 at the time, and who did excellent work), but children should not edit or make pronouncements in areas of which they are ignorant. Stick to other stuff. There's plenty of it. They should learn from older and more experienced editors if they wish to learn and grow. Skirmishing over obvious facts backed by RS is disruptive, and maybe someone needs to be taken to AN/I or made the subject of an RfC/U. --
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04:38, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- Wait, what happened to world peace/whirled peas? I thought this issue was resolved and consensus had been reached. What are we still talking about? Champaign Supernova (talk) 15:47, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Date of Birth?
The only D.O.B. here is that calculable backward from an age stated at a certain year. Orthotox (talk) 18:39, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
Source for Goldman Sachs employment
I just checked the source referenced for the statement that he once worked for Goldman Sachs (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2010/10/blowing_up_stuff.html), but nowhere can I find an confirmation for this assertion in this article. Are there any reliable sources for this claim?--Einar Moses Wohltun (talk) 09:14, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
- @Einar Moses Wohltun: Thanks for finding the erroneous citation. I did a Google search on "Goldman Sachs" Bannon, which did provide lots and lots of sources for the statement. I picked out one that looked good, and put it into the article, replacing the problematical citation. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 15:48, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
- @John Broughton: Thank you. Now the source better.--Einar Moses Wohltun (talk) 20:00, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Trump campaign CEO
"CEO" has an accepted meaning (expected to entail substantial legal responsibilities, IIRC), and his title is contrary enuf to normal usage to have evoked press sarcasm about his duties bearing any sensible relationship to the (IIRC relatively recent) role of the term in business management practice. (e.g., "Chief Executive" was at one time never heard without meaning "President of the US" and is explained by the more general term, Head of State).--Jerzy•t 20:56, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
- In the news stories I've read, I've not seen the term "Chief Executive Officer" (referring to Bannon's position in the Trump campaign) put inside quotation marks; accordingly, I've removed those quotation marks in the article. I strongly recommend posting sources that do use those quotation marks here before restoring them in the article, since Wikipedia is intended to be a mirror of the way the world is, not to take a reasoned stance on matters (see WP:NOR). That some of the press is sarcastic of Bannon's duties meriting a CEO designation isn't the point - the point is whether a large number of good sources actually uses the quotation marks.
- That said, I do agree that Bannon's title should in fact be something like "campaign manager" or "chief strategist" or "senior advisor", and that a title of CEO has little relationship to the traditional use of that term. That's why I removed the link to the article chief executive officer - because I don't think we want to encourage readers to click through and find a misleading (in the case of Bannon) description of what a CEO is. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 16:04, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
Residency
It seems that the "Residence" section of this biography (Currently: "Washington, D.C., New York, NY, Miami") is now under considerable media scrutiny.[1][2] The controversy, which is thus far one sided, is mentioned in the "Personal" section, but it's presence there may be eclipsed by it's effects on his new career. Either way, documented evidence of his current or past residency should be found, or the section in the quick bio may need to be edited or removed. So far the only reliable news sourcing places him as living in Santa Monica in 1996.[3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jz4p (talk • contribs) 06:29, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
- After further research, I've trimmed the list to two reliably sourced locations, one from the LA times, indicating residency in an LA Suburb, and another citing his spokeswoman.Jz4p (talk) 06:47, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Senior Counselor for Trump
https://twitter.com/AP/status/797916130325237761
2A02:8108:940:255C:85EC:C64:C6E5:D6B4 (talk) 21:57, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
First spouse
We're currently missing any information on Bannon's first wife. Anyone know who it was? gobonobo + c 23:50, 13 November 2016 (UTC)
Suggest adding the United States Navy Officer relevant information to the bottom of the infobox in the top right corner of the start of the article as is customary when there is that sort of military service info for people that have an infobox on their page. 69.50.70.9 (talk) 04:18, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- Source: www.sec.gov "Mr. Bannon served for seven years in the United States Navy, where his career included extended deployments on a destroyer in the Pacific Fleet and the attainment of the position of Special Assistant to the Chief of Naval Operations. Mr. Bannon was awarded the Navy Expeditionary Medal in 1981 for service in the Persian Gulf during the Iranian Hostage Crisis." -- Haven't yet found info on his ending rank or the precise years of service. 69.50.70.9 (talk) 09:02, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- Profile in The New York Times. 69.50.70.9 (talk) 09:03, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- Bio description from MilitaryTimes. "Stephen K. Bannon, a conservative business mogul best known for his work as chairman of the Breitbart News website, spent seven years in the Navy as a surface warfare officer. His military career included a stint at the Pentagon, where he served as a special assistant to the Navy's top admiral." -- Again, this one does not say his ending rank or the specific date range of years of service. 69.50.70.9 (talk) 09:06, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- Profile in The New York Times. 69.50.70.9 (talk) 09:03, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
White Nationalist publication
Someone keeps changing the description of Breitbart from "alt-right publication" to "alt-right, white nationalist publication". I think this description is somewhat misleading if not outright false. This could be a nominee for a protected article.
Breitbart News isn't "white nationalist publication"
Despite this claim inserted into the middle of sentence, and despite having supposed citations, even WIKIPEDIA ITSELF doesn't describe Breitbart News as a "white nationalist publication"! ((I'd simply wanted to know who this Bannon guy is, and I discover this falsehood.)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:300:4300:B3D:F14E:7904:CF33:C834 (talk) 05:22, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- we need to discuss how to describe breitbart news once this page gets protected (reuqest already filed btw). here's what my googling got me: right-wing opinion and news website that some critics have denounced as a hate site
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/14/business/media/breitbart-reveling-in-trumps-election-gains-a-voice-in-his-white-house.html Breitbart News's close association with the alt-right https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/11/13/trump-draws-sharp-rebuke-concerns-over-newly-appointed-chief-white-house-strategist/ Bannon, who took leave from his job running the conservative Breitbart News site to run Trump's campaign, is a divisive figure. Breitbart, which had long promoted Trump's candidacy, has also given a platform to the so-called alt-righ http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-updates-trail-guide-trump-chooses-republican-party-chairman-1479072393-htmlstory.html crusading right-wing populist website (bloomberg long profile of banana) https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2015-steve-bannon/
i think we should note the connection to the altright and controversial, as it seems there are enough RSs who do, but no more. NPalgan2 (talk) 05:30, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
Antisemitism
Some IP addresses/new users are involved in blanking a section on his antisemitic comments and the response to his views, seemingly based on WP:IDONTLIKEIT. His statements which have been described as antisemitic have been widely reported on in reliable sources (it has even been covered by the hard-right Fox News which is closely affiliated with Bannon's own party[2]), and are based inter alia on sworn, written testimony by his own wife. We don't delete reliably sourced material just because some users don't like it. The news coverage in connection with his recent appointment is dominated by discussion of his racist and antisemitic views, as seen in this article: Trump draws sharp rebuke, concerns over newly appointed chief White House strategist Stephen Bannon, which notes among other things that "The Anti-Defamation League voiced its strong disapproval in a statement Sunday evening, calling Bannon's appointment "a sad day." " --Tataral (talk) 05:52, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- I think this article should be semi-protected at least. Étienne Dolet (talk) 06:14, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
User:NPalgan2 is now continuing his disruptive removal of sourced material based on some false idea that "the subject" gets to decide whether material is included in the article (it's a brand new account, so he probably has a limited understanding of Wikipedia policies). Certainly the Anti-Defamation League's condemnation of his appointment is newsworthy and should be mentioned in the article. --Tataral (talk) 06:20, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- I started an RfC below. Hope it helps. Étienne Dolet (talk) 06:21, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
RfC about anti-Semitic remarks in the lead
Should the anti-Semitic remarks be placed in the lead? Étienne Dolet (talk) 06:18, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- Comment: this is not just about the lead, new User:NPalgan2 is involved in attempt to delete any mention of it from the article, despite massive coverage in reliable sources. He also deletes the Anti-Defamation League's strong condemnation of his appointment, which is highly newsworthy. The most important thing here is that significant material such as this is covered in the article at all, and that partisan editors don't get to delete any critical material. I don't have a strong opinion on whether we need to mention it in the lead as long as it's mentioned in the body, below. --Tataral (talk) 06:22, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- I did not remove it from the article, as I clearly stated in the edit summaries. I moved it to personal life together with the allegations of spousal abuse as both came from exwife. NPalgan2 (talk) 06:25, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- A section on "personal life" is not where one would expect to find a discussion of his problematic views on Jews, which is dominating coverage of his appointment and which is clearly political rather than personal in nature. And what happened to the Anti-Defamation League's response? --Tataral (talk) 06:28, 14 November 2016 (UTC)--Tataral (talk) 06:28, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- also moved as i clearly noted in the edit summary. ctrl+f is your friend. NPalgan2 (talk) 06:31, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- Okay, so why don't we add a controversies section? This guy's got so many that it deserves its own section. Étienne Dolet (talk) 06:29, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- There's a general norm at wikipedia to prefer to organically place controversy/criticism throughout the article. so accusations of spousal abuse and antisemitic remarks from the exwife go in personal life. accusations of antisemtic writings go in the section of his media work - btw the article needs that plus a section on his career in the trump campaign/admin, etc. of course, if RSs cover any of these enough, they become their own section and get noted in the lede. NPalgan2 (talk) 07:01, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- Okay, so why don't we add a controversies section? This guy's got so many that it deserves its own section. Étienne Dolet (talk) 06:29, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- It seems noteworthy, considering the kinds of reactions it has garnered. I'd wait awhile before adding information in the lead, but if this continues to draw attention over the anti-semitic bit, then it may be worth adding. Dustin (talk) 06:32, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- generally, the decision about whether to add a particular controversy to the lede as well as the usual barebones bio of a BLP is determined by whether RSs when they profile the subject raise the controversy. so we include the antisemitism claim of the exwife in the article *body* because, even though it's only her word against his, lots of RSs covered it. OJ was acquitted of murder, but the trial is in the lede because that's what RSs do. So we should see if profiles, 'who is Bannon explainers', etc in RSs give WP:WEIGHT and space to the allegations - keeping in mind that wikipedia policy is always to lean convservative on inclusion in BLPs.NPalgan2 (talk) 06:48, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- It is absolutely noteworthy to make note of the anti-semitic accusations leveled at him and the bigotry (incl. anti-semitism) that Breitbart has espoused under him:
- NBC News: "That list also reportedly included Steve Bannon, Trump's controversial campaign CEO whose website, Breitbart News, has espoused anti-Semitic and nationalist views. Instead, Bannon will serve as chief strategist and senior counselor to the president, Trump's transition team announced Sunday. Under Bannon, Breitbart.com has embraced racist conspiracy theories and become what Bannon termed "a platform for the alt-right.""[3]
- LA Times: "Breitbart, which had long promoted Trump's candidacy, has also given a platform to the so-called alt-right, a loose collective of openly racist and anti-Semitic activists. "[4]
- ADL: "It is a sad day when a man who presided over the premier website of the ‘alt-right’ — a loose-knit group of white nationalists and unabashed anti-Semites and racists — is slated to be a senior staff member in the ‘people’s house"[5]
- The Council on American-Islamic Relations: "The Council on American-Islamic Relations also denounced the appointment and criticized Breitbart for trafficking "misogynistic and racist stories targeting women, people of color and immigrants."[6] Snooganssnoogans (talk) 11:28, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- Too vague - This RfC is unlikely to lead to a consensus because the question posed is vague. "the anti-Semitic remarks" is undefined and open ended. I suggest starting over with a clear content proposal.- MrX 12:48, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- Agreed. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 12:55, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- I propose that we something along these lines to the lede (IP accounts deleted it last night): "Under Bannon, Breitbart News espoused racist conspiracy theories, and anti-Semitic and nationalist views.[1][2]" Snooganssnoogans (talk) 12:58, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
Top article on google news right now says Bannon is a white nationalist in the title
This only seems to be true of news.google.com and not other regions but it remains very much there. 2 hours and counting. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-bannon-chief-strategist_us_5828e1d4e4b0c4b63b0d33d7
Saintpeace (talk) 07:22, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
Please read wikipedia's policy on reliable sources WP:RS, which is even stricter in biographies of living poeple WP:BLP.`NPalgan2 (talk) 07:34, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- ^ "Reince Priebus will be Donald Trump's chief of staff". NBC News. Retrieved 2016-11-14.
- ^ "Steve Bannon: the alt-right media baron who has the ear of the President-elect". The Independent. 2016-11-14. Retrieved 2016-11-14.