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The effort expended on this subject is astounding (already at 65+ archived talk pages). Imagine if all this editorial energy was directed to more worthwhile articles. The Thatcher and Churchill pages collectively have less talk page banter then this single article. Sheesh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.51.222.35 (talk) 12:32, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Its our time to expend as we see fit. Bonewah (talk) 19:01, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Controversy
There should be some mention in this article about all the controversy this woman has created, and all of the comments she has made that lack intelligence and truth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.103.151.209 (talk) 15:52, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Changed alma mater to just University of Idaho
I understand that she attended half a dozen schools, but typically one lists the school from which one receives a degree as one's alma mater.
Mister Tog (talk) 01:33, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I can see your point, but sources have often made a point of referring to her peripatetic education. I've reverted for now, and suggest we wait for comment from others. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:45, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe I am mistaken, but I do not believe that most people would list various schools that they attended, but did not receive their degree from, as their "alma mater." Most people would list schools from where they received a degree of some kind. The usage of "alma mater" in this article is atypical, and as you admit, appears to be motivated by a desire to draw attention to the peculiarity of her education. Using a "special" definition of the concept of "alma mater" for this purpose does not seem to further a neutral point-of-view, especially considering that this information is adequately addressed in the text body. Mister Tog (talk) 01:52, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure whether an educational path like Palin's would be seen as a negative or a positive - but either way, it is what it is. Anyway, best to wait for comment from others. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:56, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Bridge to Nowhere"
There is a hidden comment in this section, saying that the section is disputed and shouldn't be edited. What is the dispute? If there isn't one, the comment should be removed. If there is one, discussion should remain here un-archived until it is resolved. Joefromrandb (talk) 16:08, 3 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nearly half of the archive is filled with this dispute. I'd suggest reading through it first, and if you then wish to reopen the dispute, feel free to start a new discussion here. Zaereth (talk) 18:21, 3 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have no desire to reopen it; I want to remove the hidden comment. Anyone editing this article automatically gets the warning template; there's no need for an extra caveat unless there's currently a specific dispute about the section. Joefromrandb (talk) 19:54, 3 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Personally, I have no objection. If no one else objects, then I'd say go for it. Zaereth (talk) 20:14, 3 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't take the time yet to pour through the archive. However, was the dispute really resolved? I can easily see the regulars here deciding that since those folks moved on from the argument a long time ago, now is a good time to just bury any references to it because it doesn't make the article look good. Since I'm a little more familiar with this issue than the average schmuck, I question whether this issue was resolved. Specifically, I still see in the article the same tired D.C. punditocracy spin of "We're spending a half billion dollars to reach 50 people" that I saw the corporate media incessantly push years ago. Even if it was in the form of the newspaper columns of Lew Williams, Jr. (read: not 100 percent neutral), the Ketchikan community made abundantly clear, years before this issue became a national political football, that they viewed the bridge as an "adapt or die" proposition. There is an abundance of flat land on Gravina Island which simply doesn't exist on Revillagigedo Island. Please don't respond to this by asking me for a citation because you're ignorant of the area's geography; go do your homework instead. If Ketchikan can use Gravina Island as an industrial area to provide services for what little timber industry still exists in Southeast Alaska, it at least stands a chance of having an economy that's not as dependant upon federal subsidies. This doesn't jibe very well with the outside stereotype of Alaska's economy, which was painted by this issue and others as having been dependant upon Ted Stevens, Don Young for its very existence. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 11:13, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Much of the dispute had to do with an attempt to include the Knik Arm Bridge as also being "the bridge to nowhere." The attempt, I believe, was to showcase it as Palin's "pet project" to get a highway built straight to her house, which is ridiculous, because the Knik bridge has been in the planning stages since before we all were born. (I guess every bridge would be a "bridge to nowhere" until it's built. Only after you have a way to get there does it become "somewhere.") Zaereth (talk) 17:50, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be happy to put the comment back if anyone wants it there. I just don't think it should linger there indefinitely. Like I said, when one edits this article, the "article probation" warning template appears. To have a second admonition to not edit a section until disputes are resolved - especially when said disputes are long-archived - is contradictory to WP:BOLD. Joefromrandb (talk) 12:51, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. If we end up with a mess we can just re-add the comment. Bonewah (talk) 15:24, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Notable WRT her stance on health care coverage? Hcobb (talk) 17:51, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No. The bizarre geography of the area (and the fact that the Knik Arm Bridge, which would have provided a practical route to Anchorage, has not been built) is the only reason that she went to a Canadian hospital. Horologium(talk) 23:00, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]