103.49.116.253 (talk) Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit Reply |
103.49.116.253 (talk) Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit Reply |
||
Line 56: | Line 56: | ||
::I have lost my account @[[User:Yatilib|Yatilib]] as I forgot it's password and I haven't registered any email at the time of account creation making the scenario worst. Due to this I am unable to contribute here, Is there a solution for this? |
::I have lost my account @[[User:Yatilib|Yatilib]] as I forgot it's password and I haven't registered any email at the time of account creation making the scenario worst. Due to this I am unable to contribute here, Is there a solution for this? |
||
::Yes you can have my email but I don't how to share it though. [[Special:Contributions/103.49.116.253|103.49.116.253]] ([[User talk:103.49.116.253|talk]]) 04:12, 4 October 2023 (UTC) |
::Yes you can have my email but I don't how to share it though. [[Special:Contributions/103.49.116.253|103.49.116.253]] ([[User talk:103.49.116.253|talk]]) 04:12, 4 October 2023 (UTC) |
||
::@[[User:Admantine123|Admantine123]] About Bihar on Talk Page of [[Kushwaha]], I have added some sources on it's talk page about the population of community in the state. [[Special:Contributions/103.49.116.253|103.49.116.253]] ([[User talk:103.49.116.253|talk]]) 04:35, 4 October 2023 (UTC) |
Revision as of 04:35, 4 October 2023
![]() | India Start‑class Low‑importance | |||||||||
|
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 June 2021
Please change
"This article is about the Saini (Mali) community of Punjab, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Jammu and Kashmir, Chandigarh and Delhi. For the Mali community who were not recorded as Saini prior to 1937, see Mali caste and Rajput Mali. For the Bhagrathi or Gola community of Western Uttar Pradesh, see Bhagirathi Mali.Not to be confused with Siani or Sinai."
to
"This article is about the Saini community of Punjab, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Jammu and Kashmir, Chandigarh and Delhi. For the Mali community, see Mali caste and Rajput Mali. For the Bhagrathi or Gola community of Western Uttar Pradesh, see Bhagirathi Mali. Not to be confused with Siani or Sinai."
Because Saini community is very much different from Mali community[1], they both are registered separately in the census of 1881, and can be seen in second column where saini mention in last of second column[2] and so on. Also the Mali was included under the Rajput sub-category in the 1891 State Census Report for Marwar.[3]
References
- Balfour, Edward (1885). The Cyclopædia of India and of Eastern and Southern Asia: Commercial, Industrial and Scientific, Products of the Mineral, Vegetable, and Animal Kingdoms, Useful Arts and Manufactures, Volume 2 (1st ed.). Retrieved June 23, 2021.
- [1]
- [4]
References
- ^ a b "The Sainis believe that their ancestors were Yadavas and that it was the same lineage in which Krishna was born. In the 43rd generation of the Yadavas there was a king known as Shoor or Sur, the son of King Vidaratha....It was in the name of these, father and son, that the community was known as Shoorsaini or Sursaini." People of India: Haryana, p 430, Kumar Suresh Singh, Madan Lal Sharma, A. K. Bhatia, Anthropological Survey of India, Published by Published on behalf of Anthropological Survey of India by Manohar Publishers, 1994
- ^ Balfour, Edward (1885). The Cyclopædia of India and of Eastern and Southern Asia: Commercial, Industrial and Scientific, Products of the Mineral, Vegetable, and Animal Kingdoms, Useful Arts and Manufactures, Volume 2 (1st ed.). Retrieved June 23, 2021.
- ^ Action sociology and development, pp 198, Bindeshwar Pathak, Concept Publishing Company, 1992
- ^ Action sociology and development, pp 198, Bindeshwar Pathak, Concept Publishing Company, 1992
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 January 2023
27.63.169.205 (talk) 04:20, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
All Sainis are not malis.prior malis and saini are different
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Lightoil (talk) 04:42, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
Saini/Shoorsaini are Yaduvanshi Rajput’s
Saini are Yaduvanshi Rajput only in Jammu & Kashmir , Punjab and North Haryana. They are among one of the clans of Yaduvnshi Rajput’s like : Jadaun, Jadeja , Bhatti , Banafwar , Chudsama , chakore .,etc. Some sudra communities like Mali’s using Saini as Surname by 1885 to get highe status in society. But in real they don’t have any cultural or traditional relationship with Shoorsaini Rajput’s. Shoorsaini Rajput (talk) 13:44, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
Ye Yaduvanshi Saini Jadon Rajput fake banjare hain jo Uttarakhand and Uttar Pradesh ke sainiyon ko mali aur nakli saini ghoshit kar rahe hain.
Accha ab tak to 1937 me Saini title chori karna batate the but jaise hi one week before humne 1872 ke proof diye United Provinces ke vo bhi pargana ke according tabse tum farzi 1885 se Saini title chori karne ko bata rahe ho 😀😀 Avdeep Saini (talk) 13:24, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
OBC Sub division in Haryana
In Haryana, the community is now added to sub category of BC - B category along with Yadav, Gujjar, Lodha, Meo and Goswami. On the other hand, six castes are included in the Backward Classes Block-B sub-category: Yadav/Ahir Gujjar, Lodha, Saini, Meo, and Goswami. Those in BC-B have been relatively better placed and are more likely to own land. Yatilib (talk) 04:05, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
- @Yatilib:, In Bihar also the community is placed in BC2 category, from community, i mean the subcaste or you may say, similar caste which is often considered as part of Saini community. Can I get your mail id, so that, we can discuss more on it as i am not much aware about Haryana.-Admantine123 (talk) 04:12, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
- I have lost my account @Yatilib as I forgot it's password and I haven't registered any email at the time of account creation making the scenario worst. Due to this I am unable to contribute here, Is there a solution for this?
- Yes you can have my email but I don't how to share it though. 103.49.116.253 (talk) 04:12, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Admantine123 About Bihar on Talk Page of Kushwaha, I have added some sources on it's talk page about the population of community in the state. 103.49.116.253 (talk) 04:35, 4 October 2023 (UTC)