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Remove the photo that has been added to this page. I clicked on the link and it takes you to a book where the word Saini is not mentioned once? Seems like a mistake. |
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[[User:20182309L|20182309L]] ([[User talk:20182309L|talk]]) 21:57, 1 July 2021 (UTC) |
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:{{not done}}, and yet the "Mali" was removed from the caption, so thank you very much''!'' '''''[[User:Paine Ellsworth|<span style="font-size:92%;color:darkblue;font-family:Segoe Script">P.I. Ellsworth</span>]]''''' [[Editor|<span style="color:black">ed.</span>]] [[User talk:Paine Ellsworth|<sup>put'r there</sup>]] <small>12:01, 21 July 2021 (UTC)</small> |
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::Read the top of this page: ''This article is about the Saini (Mali) community of Punjab, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Jammu and Kashmir, Chandigarh and Delhi. For the Mali community who were not recorded as Saini prior to 1937, see Mali caste and Rajput Mali. For the Bhagrathi or Gola community of Western Uttar Pradesh, see Bhagirathi Mali.'' |
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::You have not solved the issue and may have made things less accurate. I am not getting into dispute about status like others (seems a separate debate)- Mali is a large group which Sainis may be linked to (or part of), but they are not interchangeable terms. The source for this picture does not mentions Sainis once in the whole book- to keep the picture there is inaccurate and you are confusing phrases, groups, regions and time periods. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:20182309L|20182309L]] ([[User talk:20182309L#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/20182309L|contribs]]) 20:09, September 10, 2021 (UTC)</span> |
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:::[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now:''' please establish a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] for this alteration '''[[Wikipedia:Edit requests|before]]''' using the {{tlx|edit extended-protected}} template.<!-- Template:EEp --> [[User:ScottishFinnishRadish|ScottishFinnishRadish]] ([[User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish|talk]]) 15:03, 11 September 2021 (UTC) |
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::::So someone has added a random photo and then someone else (PJ Ellsworth-see above) has come and made it even less accurate, and now consensus is needed to remove a clear error?? How can it be any clearer- the source for this picture does not mentions Sainis once in the whole book (which you can click through to) - to keep the picture there is inaccurate. This is not some debate, like some other points on this page, this is just a request to remove an error that has been found (please read my above paragraphs)! Mali is a large group which Sainis may be linked to (or part of), but they are not interchangeable terms. If you cannot accept a change this straight forward, what is the point of this page? <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:20182309L|20182309L]] ([[User talk:20182309L#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/20182309L|contribs]]) 20:38, September 29, 2021 (UTC)</span> |
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::::: That said, I am sorry that this matter is causing you frustration. Please understand that for many editors - including those that [[WP:ER|patrol requested edits]] - that this is not a subject area those on the English Wikipedia specialize in. What you perceive to be a blatant factual error may not be as such to others. In defense of [[Special:Contributions/ScottishFinnishRadish|ScottishFinnishRadish]], it is very common for users to request images be removed or added trivially when that typically does require [[WP:CON|consensus]], and this was probably one of many edit requests he viewed on the 11th. It doesn't help that the image on Commons explicitly has the caption {{tq|Saini bride and bridegroom with marriage crowns}}. It ''is'' curious that the word "Saini" is absent from the entire book, however. |
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::::: For that reason I've [[WP:BOLD|boldly]] removed the image, as it is possible the uploader on Commons made an error. However, another editor can reasonably return the image at any time if they find I am in the wrong. If that occurs, and you feel that it is still wrong, I would advise seeking help from editors more versed in this subject area. Reopening this edit request, or making a new one, would not be the proper venue. A good start may be [[WP:INDIA|WikiProject India]]. Cheers! —[[User:Sirdog|<span style="color:#058700">'''Sirdog'''</span> ]]([[User talk:Sirdog|talk]]) 02:42, 30 September 2021 (UTC) |
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== Sainis were not rajputs and not descendent of krishna == |
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Saini is not kstriya rajput cast, it's a napit cast nai in hindi, they all are chandals, choke shudhra [[User:Kunwar virendrapratap singh bhati|Kunwar virendrapratap singh bhati]] ([[User talk:Kunwar virendrapratap singh bhati|talk]]) 04:25, 22 August 2021 (UTC) |
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"This article is about the Saini (Mali) community of Punjab, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Jammu and Kashmir, Chandigarh and Delhi. For the Mali community who were not recorded as Saini prior to 1937, see Mali caste and Rajput Mali. For the Bhagrathi or Gola community of Western Uttar Pradesh, see Bhagirathi Mali.Not to be confused with Siani or Sinai."
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"This article is about the Saini community of Punjab, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Jammu and Kashmir, Chandigarh and Delhi. For the Mali community, see Mali caste and Rajput Mali. For the Bhagrathi or Gola community of Western Uttar Pradesh, see Bhagirathi Mali. Not to be confused with Siani or Sinai."
Because Saini community is very much different from Mali community[1], they both are registered separately in the census of 1881, and can be seen in second column where saini mention in last of second column[2] and so on. Also the Mali was included under the Rajput sub-category in the 1891 State Census Report for Marwar.[3]
References
- Balfour, Edward (1885). The Cyclopædia of India and of Eastern and Southern Asia: Commercial, Industrial and Scientific, Products of the Mineral, Vegetable, and Animal Kingdoms, Useful Arts and Manufactures, Volume 2 (1st ed.). Retrieved June 23, 2021.
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- ^ a b "The Sainis believe that their ancestors were Yadavas and that it was the same lineage in which Krishna was born. In the 43rd generation of the Yadavas there was a king known as Shoor or Sur, the son of King Vidaratha....It was in the name of these, father and son, that the community was known as Shoorsaini or Sursaini." People of India: Haryana, p 430, Kumar Suresh Singh, Madan Lal Sharma, A. K. Bhatia, Anthropological Survey of India, Published by Published on behalf of Anthropological Survey of India by Manohar Publishers, 1994
- ^ Balfour, Edward (1885). The Cyclopædia of India and of Eastern and Southern Asia: Commercial, Industrial and Scientific, Products of the Mineral, Vegetable, and Animal Kingdoms, Useful Arts and Manufactures, Volume 2 (1st ed.). Retrieved June 23, 2021.
- ^ Action sociology and development, pp 198, Bindeshwar Pathak, Concept Publishing Company, 1992
- ^ Action sociology and development, pp 198, Bindeshwar Pathak, Concept Publishing Company, 1992
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Change the first line from This article is about Saini(mali) community To This article is about Saini Community 106.204.231.33 (talk) 09:02, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
- Please read section #Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 August 2021 above. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:16, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:06, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Saini Smaj Gotra
Maharastra Mali, Saini, Gola, Patil, Phule, Kshatriya, Mali, Vanmali. Bihar Mali, Kshatriya mali, Saini, Kushwala, Mehta, Shak. M.P. Mali, Kshatriya mali, Saini, Sainik kshatriya. Madras Reddy, Mali saini, Saini kshatriya. Orissa Mali, Kshatriya mali, Saini kshatriya, Umrav, Haldawa. U.P. Mali, Gole, Pushpadh, Brahmin, Kamboj, Baroliya bhagat, Bhandari, Saini. Hyderabad Mali, Reddy, Kshatriya mali, Sainik kshatriya, Saini. Mysore Mali, Reddy, Kshatriya mali, Sainik kshatriya, Saini. Rajasthan Mali, Baghwan, Kshatriya mali, Dhimer, Bhoi, Gehlot, Solanki. Punjab Saini, Mali, Sainik, Kshatriya. Haryana Saini, Mali, Sainik, Kshatriya. Saurashtra Saini, Mali, Rami, Shankarvanshi, Kaachi. Delhi Saini H.P. Saini, Kshatriya mali, Mali. Bagri,Songra, Chouhan, Bhati, Singodiya, Hankhla, Solanki, Tundwal, Parihar, Dagdi, Tanwar,Satrawala, Songra, Chouhan, Bhati, Singodiya, Hankhla, Solanki, Tundwal, Parihar, Dagdi, Tanwar,Satrawala, Songra, Chouhan, Bhati, Singodiya, Hankhla, Solanki, Tundwal, Parihar, Dagdi,
Adhopia, Agarwal, Annhe, Attar, Badwal, Banait, Banga, Banga, Banwait, Baria, Basuta/Basoota, Bawal, Bharal, Bhati, Bhela, Bhele, Bhogal, Bhowra, Bimbh, Bola, Bondi, Budwal/Bodwal, Caberwal, Chandan, Chandel, Chande, Chandolia, Chaudhry, Chayor, Chelley, Chepru, Chera, Chere, Chibb, Chilne, Dadwal, Dakolia, Darar, Daurka/Dhorke, Dhamrait, Dhand,
Dhanota, Dhek, Dheri, Dhaul, Dhole, Dhoore, Dhorka, Dola, Dolka, Dolle, Dulku, Fharar, Gaare, Gahir, Gahunia, Galeria, Galhe, Garhamiye, Garhania, Garore, Gehlan, Gidda, Giddar, Gidde, Gillon, Girn, Gogan, Gogia, Gogiaan/Gogian, Golia, Haad, Hadwa, Hansi, Hans, Hoon, Jagait, Jaget, Jagit, Jandauria, Jandeer, Jandor, Jandoria, Janglia,
Japra/Japre, Joshi, Kaan, Kabad, Kabarwal, Kabli, Kadauni, Kainthlia, Kalia, Kaloti, Kamboe, Kamokhar-Khatri, Kapooria-Kapoor, Kapoor-Khatri, Kariya, Kataria, Keer, Khabra, Khad-Khatri, Kharga, Khargal, Khatri-Andhaia, Khelbare, Khobe, Khube, Khute, Kuchrat, Kuhar, Kuhare, Lata Longia, Lularia/Loyla, Manger, Maheru/Meharu, Masute, Matoya, Mundh,
Mundra, Nagoria, Nanua, Nawen, Neemkaroria, Pabe, Pabla, Pabme, Pama, Panesar, Pangeli/Panghliya, Panthalia, Papose, Partole, Patrote, Pawar, Pharar, Pingalia, Pundrak, Puria, Saggi, Sahnam, Sair, Sajjan, Sakhla, Salaria/Salariya, Sandoonia, Sangar, Sangowalia, Saroha, Satmukhiye, Satrawla, Satrawli, Satrole, Savadia, Sehgal, Shahi, Sinh, Sona, Sooji, Sukhayee, Tabachare, Tak, Tamber, Tandoowal, Taraal, Tarotia, Tatla, Tatra, Tatri, Thind, Tikoria, Togar, Tondwall, Tonk/Tank, Toor, Tuseed, Ughra, Vaid, Vim, Virdee,bagri.
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http://www.sainiworld.com/Website/A0SainiSamajGotra.aspx Rajender Kumar RKS (talk) 05:32, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Saini lives Gujarat also.. They living in ahemdabad deesa surat bhavnagar gandhinagar kacch and baroda etc city.
ગુજરાત મા પણ સૈની જોવા મળે છે. 2409:4041:2D04:10C:1A4C:8D29:DA08:ED3 (talk) 18:32, 9 August 2022 (UTC)