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== OBC Sub division in Haryana == |
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In Haryana, the community is now added to sub category of BC - B category along with Yadav, Gujjar, Lodha, Meo and Goswami. |
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[https://theprint.in/politics/how-haryana-quota-for-backward-class-sub-category-in-municipal-polls-could-help-bjp-in-2024/1567881/ On the other hand, six castes are included in the Backward Classes Block-B sub-category: Yadav/Ahir Gujjar, Lodha, Saini, Meo, and Goswami. Those in BC-B have been relatively better placed and are more likely to own land.] [[User:Yatilib|Yatilib]] ([[User talk:Yatilib|talk]]) 04:05, 20 September 2023 (UTC) |
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== Saini == |
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:{{ping|Yatilib}}, In Bihar also the community is placed in BC2 category, from community, i mean the subcaste or you may say, similar caste which is often considered as part of Saini community. Can I get your mail id, so that, we can discuss more on it as i am not much aware about Haryana.-[[User:Admantine123|Admantine123]] ([[User talk:Admantine123|talk]]) 04:12, 24 September 2023 (UTC) |
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::I have lost my account @[[User:Yatilib|Yatilib]] as I forgot it's password and I haven't registered any email at the time of account creation making the scenario worst. Due to this I am unable to contribute here, Is there a solution for this? |
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::Yes you can have my email but I don't how to share it though. [[Special:Contributions/103.49.116.253|103.49.116.253]] ([[User talk:103.49.116.253|talk]]) 04:12, 4 October 2023 (UTC) |
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:::You can make a new account. With another email, as you hadn't attached email, it will be difficult to get a OTP. [[User:Admantine123|Admantine123]] ([[User talk:Admantine123|talk]]) 05:04, 4 October 2023 (UTC) |
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::@[[User:Admantine123|Admantine123]] About Bihar on Talk Page of [[Kushwaha]], I have added some sources on it's talk page about the population of community in the state. [[Special:Contributions/103.49.116.253|103.49.116.253]] ([[User talk:103.49.116.253|talk]]) 04:35, 4 October 2023 (UTC) |
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:Not in Punjab, Sainis in Punjab are in general category. Please correct it. Thank you very much. [[Special:Contributions/2A02:908:1A1:4F60:F467:4640:F915:2F89|2A02:908:1A1:4F60:F467:4640:F915:2F89]] ([[User talk:2A02:908:1A1:4F60:F467:4640:F915:2F89|talk]]) 20:08, 21 December 2023 (UTC) |
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The Saini caste is the Kshatriya (warrior) varna, and are traditionally landowners and warriors. mainly found in Punjab, Haryana (except bordering parts of rajasthan), Himachal, Jammu. Maharaja Shoorsen, grandfather of Shri Krishna is the father of saini/shoorsaini dynasty. Sainis are one of the 20 castes designated as 'martial races' by British India Army - List of Martial race . [[Special:Contributions/2409:40D7:1:C181:4C00:E46C:DE57:7966|2409:40D7:1:C181:4C00:E46C:DE57:7966]] ([[User talk:2409:40D7:1:C181:4C00:E46C:DE57:7966|talk]]) 19:41, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== About saini history == |
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'''Saini''' ({{Audio|saini.ogg|pronunciation}}) is a [[caste]] of [[North India]] who were traditionally landowners ([[zamindars]]) and farmers. Sainis claim to be descendants of a king, [[Shurasena]], as well as of [[Krishna]] and [[King Porus|Porus]], and to be related to the ancient Shoorsaini clan,<ref name = "Shoorsaini">'' "The Sainis believe that their ancestors were Yadavas and that it was the same lineage in which Krishna was born. In the 43rd generation of the Yadavas there was a king known as Shoor or Sur, the son of King Vidaratha....It was in the name of these, father and son, that the community was known as Shoorsaini or Sursaini."'' People of India: Haryana, p 430, Kumar Suresh Singh, Madan Lal Sharma, A. K. Bhatia, Anthropological Survey of India, Published by Published on behalf of Anthropological Survey of India by Manohar Publishers, 1994</ref> noted in [[Puranic]] literature. The Saini community is given [[reservation in India|representation in government jobs and educational institutes]] as an [[Other Backward Class]] (OBC)<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://chdengineering.gov.in/pages/list_obc.pdf|title=CENTRAL LIST OF OTHER BACKWARD CLASSES|website=CHANDIGARH ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT|access-date=30 December 2019|archive-date=4 November 2019|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20191104122022/http://www.chdengineering.gov.in/pages/list_obc.pdf|url-status=dead}}</ref> in the states of [[Uttar Pradesh]],<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.news18.com/news/opinion/17-most-backward-castes-may-play-kingmaker-as-purvanchal-gears-up-to-vote-in-final-phase-2141707.html|title=17 Most Backward Castes May Play Kingmaker as Purvanchal Gears Up to Vote in Final Phase|website=News18|date=15 May 2019|access-date=30 December 2019|archive-date=20 May 2019|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20190520131055/https://www.news18.com/news/opinion/17-most-backward-castes-may-play-kingmaker-as-purvanchal-gears-up-to-vote-in-final-phase-2141707.html|url-status=live}}</ref> [[Punjab (India)|Punjab]],<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/saini-swarnkarsunar-communities-to-be-backward-classes-in-punjab-3024245/|title=Saini, Swarnkar/Sunar communities to be backward classes in Punjab|date=10 September 2016|website=The Indian Express|language=en-US|access-date=30 December 2019|archive-date=17 June 2018|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180617020834/https://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/saini-swarnkarsunar-communities-to-be-backward-classes-in-punjab-3024245/|url-status=live}}</ref> [[Haryana]],<ref>{{Cite news|url=https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/haryana-government-adds-kushwaha-keori-maurya-castes-to-bc-list/articleshow/25267747.cms?from=mdr|title=Haryana government adds Kushwaha, Keori, Maurya castes to BC list|date=5 November 2013|work=The Economic Times|access-date=30 December 2019|archive-date=13 December 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201213093229/https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/haryana-government-adds-kushwaha-keori-maurya-castes-to-bc-list/articleshow/25267747.cms?from=mdr|url-status=live}}</ref> [[Rajasthan]]<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/rajasthan-assembly-polls-2018-rss-stronghold-anta-has-been-electing-influential-leaders/story-1PBDYFzDd0luazjapjzpfK.html|title=Rajasthan assembly polls 2018: RSS stronghold, Anta, has been electing influential leaders|date=11 September 2018|website=Hindustan Times|language=en|access-date=30 December 2019|archive-date=30 December 2019|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20191230205531/https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/rajasthan-assembly-polls-2018-rss-stronghold-anta-has-been-electing-influential-leaders/story-1PBDYFzDd0luazjapjzpfK.html|url-status=live}}</ref> and [[Madhya Pradesh]].<ref>{{Cite news|url=https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bhopal/Commission-starts-hearing-on-inclusion-of-OBCs-from-Madhya-Pradesh/articleshow/42244508.cms|title=Shubha Mudgal: Commission starts hearing on inclusion of OBCs from Madhya Pradesh|last=N|first=TN|website=The Times of India|date=11 September 2014 |language=en|access-date=30 December 2019|archive-date=12 March 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200312213450/https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bhopal/Commission-starts-hearing-on-inclusion-of-OBCs-from-Madhya-Pradesh/articleshow/42244508.cms|url-status=live}}</ref> |
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As both a statutory agricultural tribe and a designated [[martial race]] during the [[British Raj]] era that followed the [[Indian Rebellion of 1857]], Sainis had been chiefly engaged in both agriculture and military service. Since the independence of India, they have diversified into [[White-collar worker|white-collar professions]].<ref>''"The members of Saini community are employed in business and white-collar jobs and as teachers, administrators, lawyers, doctors and defence personnel."'' People of India, National Series Volume VI, India's Communities N-Z, p 3091, KS Singh, Anthropological Survey of India, Oxford University Press, 1998</ref> [[Special:Contributions/103.198.174.13|103.198.174.13]] ([[User talk:103.198.174.13|talk]]) 11:32, 1 January 2024 (UTC) |
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The Saini caste is the Kshatriya (warrior) varna, and are traditionally landowners and warriors. mainly found in Punjab, Haryana (except bordering parts of rajasthan), Himachal, Jammu. Maharaja Shoorsen, grandfather of Shri Krishna is the father of saini/shoorsaini dynasty. Sainis are one of the 20 castes designated as 'martial races' by British India Army - List of Martial race . [[Special:Contributions/2409:40D7:1:C181:4C00:E46C:DE57:7966|2409:40D7:1:C181:4C00:E46C:DE57:7966]] ([[User talk:2409:40D7:1:C181:4C00:E46C:DE57:7966|talk]]) 19:49, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
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The Saini caste is the Kshatriya (warrior) varna, and are traditionally landowners and warriors. mainly found in Punjab, Haryana (except bordering parts of rajasthan), Himachal, Jammu. Maharaja Shoorsen, grandfather of Shri Krishna is the father of saini/shoorsaini dynasty. Sainis are one of the 20 castes designated as 'martial races' by British India Army - List of Martial race . [[Special:Contributions/2409:40D7:1:C181:4C00:E46C:DE57:7966|2409:40D7:1:C181:4C00:E46C:DE57:7966]] ([[User talk:2409:40D7:1:C181:4C00:E46C:DE57:7966|talk]]) 19:51, 10 April 2024 (UTC) |
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"This article is about the Saini community of Punjab, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Jammu and Kashmir, Chandigarh ,Uttar Pradesh and Delhi. For the Mali community who were not recorded as Saini prior to 1937, see Mali caste and Rajput Mali. For the Bhagrathi or Gola community of Western Uttar Pradesh, see Bhagirathi Mali.Not to be confused with Siani or Sinai."
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"This article is about the Saini community of Punjab, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Jammu and Kashmir, Chandigarh ,Uttar Pradesh and Delhi. For the Mali community, see Mali caste and Rajput Mali. For the Bhagrathi or Gola community of Western Uttar Pradesh, see Bhagirathi Mali. Not to be confused with Siani or Sinai."
Because Saini community is very much different from Mali community[1], they both are registered separately in the census of 1881, and can be seen in second column where saini mention in last of second column[2] and so on. Also the Mali was included under the Rajput sub-category in the 1891 State Census Report for Marwar.[3]
References
- Balfour, Edward (1885). The Cyclopædia of India and of Eastern and Southern Asia: Commercial, Industrial and Scientific, Products of the Mineral, Vegetable, and Animal Kingdoms, Useful Arts and Manufactures, Volume 2 (1st ed.). Retrieved June 23, 2021.
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- ^ a b "The Sainis believe that their ancestors were Yadavas and that it was the same lineage in which Krishna was born. In the 43rd generation of the Yadavas there was a king known as Shoor or Sur, the son of King Vidaratha....It was in the name of these, father and son, that the community was known as Shoorsaini or Sursaini." People of India: Haryana, p 430, Kumar Suresh Singh, Madan Lal Sharma, A. K. Bhatia, Anthropological Survey of India, Published by Published on behalf of Anthropological Survey of India by Manohar Publishers, 1994
- ^ Balfour, Edward (1885). The Cyclopædia of India and of Eastern and Southern Asia: Commercial, Industrial and Scientific, Products of the Mineral, Vegetable, and Animal Kingdoms, Useful Arts and Manufactures, Volume 2 (1st ed.). Retrieved June 23, 2021.
- ^ Action sociology and development, pp 198, Bindeshwar Pathak, Concept Publishing Company, 1992
- ^ Action sociology and development, pp 198, Bindeshwar Pathak, Concept Publishing Company, 1992
Is saini caste comes under obc ncl asper centre list
I am searching for this from a lot time I just don't get any answer please tell me if someone know 2409:4055:59D:814A:0:0:2ACA:B0A1 (talk) 05:09, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
Saini
The Saini caste is the Kshatriya (warrior) varna, and are traditionally landowners and warriors. mainly found in Punjab, Haryana (except bordering parts of rajasthan), Himachal, Jammu. Maharaja Shoorsen, grandfather of Shri Krishna is the father of saini/shoorsaini dynasty. Sainis are one of the 20 castes designated as 'martial races' by British India Army - List of Martial race . 2409:40D7:1:C181:4C00:E46C:DE57:7966 (talk) 19:41, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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The Saini caste is the Kshatriya (warrior) varna, and are traditionally landowners and warriors. mainly found in Punjab, Haryana (except bordering parts of rajasthan), Himachal, Jammu. Maharaja Shoorsen, grandfather of Shri Krishna is the father of saini/shoorsaini dynasty. Sainis are one of the 20 castes designated as 'martial races' by British India Army - List of Martial race . 2409:40D7:1:C181:4C00:E46C:DE57:7966 (talk) 19:49, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 23:28, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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The Saini caste is the Kshatriya (warrior) varna, and are traditionally landowners and warriors. mainly found in Punjab, Haryana (except bordering parts of rajasthan), Himachal, Jammu. Maharaja Shoorsen, grandfather of Shri Krishna is the father of saini/shoorsaini dynasty. Sainis are one of the 20 castes designated as 'martial races' by British India Army - List of Martial race . 2409:40D7:1:C181:4C00:E46C:DE57:7966 (talk) 19:51, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 23:28, 10 April 2024 (UTC)