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== Speech to the Synod Assembly == |
== Speech to the Synod Assembly == |
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Ok, what we don't do is simply cut and paste someone's speech into an article. This is an encyclopaedia and not a press release. We use secondary sources to illuminate primary sources. We don't use primary sources in the raw. Let's get a bit smarter on this article please. Leaving Sarah's words "to speak for themselves" is not acceptable. Not least beacuse they are fairly gibberish without context. [[User:Contaldo80|Contaldo80]] ([[User talk:Contaldo80|talk]]) 08:59, 4 November 2015 (UTC) |
Ok, what we don't do is simply cut and paste someone's speech into an article. This is an encyclopaedia and not a press release. We use secondary sources to illuminate primary sources. We don't use primary sources in the raw. Let's get a bit smarter on this article please. Leaving Sarah's words "to speak for themselves" is not acceptable. Not least beacuse they are fairly gibberish without context. [[User:Contaldo80|Contaldo80]] ([[User talk:Contaldo80|talk]]) 08:59, 4 November 2015 (UTC) |
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== [[User:Contaldo80|Contaldo80]]'s edit warring == |
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[[User:Contaldo80|Contaldo80]] repeatedly adds his contentious commentary and personal analysis into this article, violating Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|neutral point of view policy]]. |
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[[User:Contaldo80|Contaldo80]] admits repeatedly that he doesn't understand Cardinal Sarah's remarks, but then insists on summarizing those remarks. |
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Robert_Sarah&diff=688661571&oldid=688627214] |
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&diff=688827450&oldid=688816307] |
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Cr7777777&diff=689001736&oldid=688749324] |
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[[User:Contaldo80|Contaldo80]]'s rewording that Cardinal Sarah "is also a critic of ... the growth of LGBT rights" is a biased misrepresentation. |
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Instead of misrepresenting the subject to readers, the cardinal's own words should be used to describe his position, without the peanut gallery's misrepresentation. |
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If [[User:Contaldo80|Contaldo80]] insists on adding a nutshell summary of the cardinal's remarks, it should be that Cardinal Sarah is a critic of the threats to family and a promoter of chastity. |
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[[User:Contaldo80|Contaldo80]] will be the first user I ever refer to the administrators for edit warring. |
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what are "locals"?
What does it mean, "the seminarians gathered at the locals of the parish of Sainte Croix"?--Richardson mcphillips (talk) 00:23, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Claim of slander
One editor has questioned some of the material on the grounds of "slander". In my understanding (other editors will correct me if I am wrong) this is not sufficient grounds to challenge a point. Rather we need to be specific about what particular wikipedia rule has been violated such as BLP perhaps. Best to engage here please rather than begin edit-warring. Thanks. Contaldo80 (talk) 08:21, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Lead
We need to find a better way to handle some of the material in the lead. I reverted the line that said "He has been outspoken on the threat posed to Christianity by Islam, and has compared western homosexual and abortion ideologies and Islamic fanaticism to Nazism." The problem I have with this is that it violates NPOV. It is correct to say that Robert Sarah believes that there is such a thing as "western homosexual and abortion ideologies". But it is not correct to say that these are genuine things and as such Robert Sarah compares them with Nazism. What is the "western homosexual ideology"?! Contaldo80 (talk) 09:00, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- I object to scare quotes around "ideologies". Elizium23 (talk) 16:14, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
- Well that's what we're going to have to live with unless you can please clarify what is meant by a "western homosexual ideology". And demonstrate that it's a commonly used and understood term. Doing a quick google search for the term throws up some pretty hateful and worrying stuff. Is it used in official church documents for example? Contaldo80 (talk) 08:39, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
Speech to the Synod Assembly
Ok, what we don't do is simply cut and paste someone's speech into an article. This is an encyclopaedia and not a press release. We use secondary sources to illuminate primary sources. We don't use primary sources in the raw. Let's get a bit smarter on this article please. Leaving Sarah's words "to speak for themselves" is not acceptable. Not least beacuse they are fairly gibberish without context. Contaldo80 (talk) 08:59, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Contaldo80's edit warring
Contaldo80 repeatedly adds his contentious commentary and personal analysis into this article, violating Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy.
Contaldo80 admits repeatedly that he doesn't understand Cardinal Sarah's remarks, but then insists on summarizing those remarks. [1] [2] [3]
Contaldo80's rewording that Cardinal Sarah "is also a critic of ... the growth of LGBT rights" is a biased misrepresentation. Instead of misrepresenting the subject to readers, the cardinal's own words should be used to describe his position, without the peanut gallery's misrepresentation. If Contaldo80 insists on adding a nutshell summary of the cardinal's remarks, it should be that Cardinal Sarah is a critic of the threats to family and a promoter of chastity.
Contaldo80 will be the first user I ever refer to the administrators for edit warring.