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:: http://www.7tutorials.com/how-install-any-version-windows-other-network-computers |
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:: http://s205blog.wordpress.com/2012/09/29/windows-7-pxe-network-install-turorial/ |
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:: http://s205blog.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/ubuntu-12-04-lte-pxe-network-installation-tutorial/ |
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:: http://www.7tutorials.com/how-install-any-version-windows-other-network-computers |
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:: http://www.techanger.com/install-windows-7-from-network-share/ |
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:: http://tylertc.wordpress.com/2013/02/26/serva-pxe-boot/ |
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:: http://techsupportpk.blogspot.de/2013/07/serva-pxe-boot-say-goodbye-to-ris-wds.html |
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:: http://winandtips.blogspot.com.es/2012/10/how-install-windows-with-network.html |
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:: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=197&t=126082 |
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:: http://www.milesi.org/wiki/doku.php?id=pxe |
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:: http://bliz.co.za/educational/how-to/55-install-windows-over-the-network.html |
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:: http://windows8learning.blogspot.com.es/2013/08/how-to-install-all-windows-os-from.html |
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:: http://tricks1worlds.blogspot.com.es/2013/07/network-booting-to-install-windows-7.html |
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:: http://rebholz.wordpress.com/2012/05/17/technical-how-to-installing-linux-edubuntu-using-pxe-boot-and-windows-7-as-a-server/ |
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:: http://cdn.ws.citrix.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/XenServer_unattended_installation_v10.pdf |
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:: http://xmms.jp/blog/comments.php?y=12&m=11&entry=entry121116-090052 (Japanese) |
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:: http://www.kickinass.net/windows-ubers-netzwerk-per-pxe-installieren-mit-serva/ (German) |
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:: http://juha.leivo.org/index.php/2013/07/pxe-ymprist/ (Finnish) |
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:: http://klink0v.livejournal.com/91486.html (Rusian) |
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:: http://www.ewdna.com/2013/08/pxe-server-on-windows.html (Chinese) |
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I will move this article to Preboot Execution Environment and link PXE to it, then I will replace the content with a translation of the more detailed german pxe-article.
staying tuned.. :>
move it
ok... I cannot move this article... so would anyone move it to Preboot Execution Environment and link PXE to it, please!
- Thanx! Nirkus
Maybe someone can create an article about LAN booting in general? All modern computers support it, but there is little information about this thing on the internet. thanks, --Abdull 21:44, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
- LAN booting in general...it's longer than you'd suspect (though there certaintly are longer articles on here), however, I don't think that this is the place for a step-by-step howto. However, Nirkus and I maintain a much smaller wiki dedicated to this...please see [1] (same link at the bottom of the article) for more info. ScytheBlade1 01:19, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
This links to an interesting linux distribution, but I cannot find more information than how to configure it. So I think, we should remove this link, it provides no documentation on how to use PXE itself.
I removed PXES from this article. And I will continue to remove the link..
history
It would be nice to get an idea of how widespread PXE support is, and when it was adopted. A couple sentences could easily answer questions, e.g., would a typical P-II with an onboard 10/100 ethernet support PXE?
-- DEmerson3, 2006-04-15, 4:23 pm PDT (-0700)
some links on this topic
i've got some links on this topic that you my find useful
Guides & How-To http://oss.netfarm.it/guides/
BINL Protocol Specifications http://oss.netfarm.it/guides/binl.php
RIS for Linux - Ris Windows Installation http://oss.netfarm.it/guides/ris-linux.php
RIS for Linux - Boot winpe from the net / Ris Windows Installation http://oss.netfarm.it/guides/pxe.php
dungsaga
NIC Only?
" ..... is an environment to boot computers using a network interface card"
Is it correct that a motherboard with on-board network interface circuitry (i.e. most mobos) can do a boot-from-lan without requiring a network interface card?
If so, then perhaps we could state this in the introduction. Rbowman (talk) 11:31, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
You mean an integrated Network Interface Card ? same same DGerman (talk) 14:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
This is correct - you just need pxe-enabled network circuitry. 199.18.139.222 (talk) 18:26, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Removing redundant clarification
The following clarification sounds redundant to me, so I'm removing it:
The term PXE client only refers to the role that the machine takes in the PXE boot process. A PXE client can be a server, desktop, laptop or any other machine that is equipped with PXE boot code.
Rationele: this holds for any "client", and isn't appropriate here any more than it would be on the HTTP page. 145.120.14.169 (talk) 19:59, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
References
Under "See also"
Cobbler: I cannot find independent sources justifying the inclusion of this project here. I consider it has to be removed
El Torito: This project is not related to PXE, this is a piece of code used when booting i.e. from a CD, DVD or PenDrive. I consider it has to be removed
Under "External Links"
ERPXE : I cannot find independent sources justifying the inclusion of this project here. I consider it has to be removed
Serva: It is an automated PXE Server that has been independently reviewed several times i.e.
http://www.heise.de/ct/inhalt/2013/18/160/
http://www.technibble.com/serva-network-based-windows-installation-made-easy/
http://www.rmprepusb.com/tutorials/serva
etc.
I consider Serva has more than enough independent sources justifying its inclusion under "External Links"
213.37.84.214 (talk) 10:35, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
- Cobbler is a way of booting with PXE. Sources are in that article, and are never used in the see also section - see WP:SEEALSO. Changes you want to that article are misplaced here - they go in that article's talk page. El Torito is also a boot topic. You will need to gain consensus for your controversial removal. Make your case per policy/guidelines rather than what you personally like. I have reinstated them. ERPXE is a PXE with 8.5K Google hits, at least some independent of the project.
[2] [3][etc. EXT don't need sources either -see WP:EXT. My only objection to one link to Serva is WP:EXT : WP:FANSITE 4. - your WP:SPA editing and removal of rival links. Inserting multiple serva links in different articles is promo as an SPA editor, and other editors have removed them. (as per your talk page) We've suggested creating an article, which may be better. Inserting 3 links to the same site needs a strong justification from you per WP:EXT else it is seen as promo. Widefox; talk 16:12, 1 October 2013 (UTC) (comment modified to remove any doubt that a RS is implied here by emphasising the importance of info - it is a free, open source project. Widefox; talk 21:42, 12 October 2013 (UTC))
- 1) Cobbler
- If you want to include Cobbler here I think we should discuss about Cobbler; There are hundreds of other projects that allow "booting with PXE" as you said but that's not enough reason for include them here. I personally do not consider this project has a competitive advantage; if you want to defend Cobbler inclusion please provide independent sources supporting Cobbler features.
- 2) El Torito.
- You said "El Torito is also a boot topic"; is your intention to include in the PXE page every project that is a "boot topic"?
- Well "El torito" as I've said before it is a project that gives you code to initially boot from a CD or DVD and that has nothing to do with PXE that pretends to be a form to boot from a "network". I'm proposing here removing "El Tortito" from the PXE page.
- 3) ERPXE
- Unfortunately Google Hits are not a good measure; you can read why i.e. here http://searchengineland.com/why-google-cant-count-results-properly-53559 ; besides that let me say that 8K hits are really not many i.e if you look after the words "serva" "boot" (quoted) you get 178,000 Hits if you unquote the words you get 383,000 results.
- The ERPXE links you have provided are not reviews nor tutorials either, links with 20 words and a download link just tell me ERPXE should not be here. I propose if you cannot provide better independent sources supporting ERPXE to remove that project from this page.
- 4) SERVA
- I have not removed "Rival links" as you said; as 1) I have no rivals here 2) I have "added" UDA.
- I have inserted Serva link in the articles that I consider is worthy to mention. i.e. Serva website has the best page on "Null Session Shares" ranking first place in google but you guys considered that spam.
- Please find bellow some independent Serva reviews, articles, and tutorials. Not including links with the typical short description used by software websites when offering Serva for download.
(promo EXT removed - this is a PXE talk page, not a place for EXT for your favourite PXE server which is WP:OFFTOPIC - write an article with these, they can be found in the history of this page)
- English:
- http://www.rmprepusb.com/tutorials/serva
- http://www.rmprepusb.com/updates/easypxebootsetuptoinstallwindows
- http://www.technibble.com/serva-network-based-windows-installation-made-easy/
- http://techsupportpk.blogspot.de/2013/07/serva-pxe-boot-say-goodbye-to-ris-wds.html
- http://www.stylight.com/Numbers/automating-client-pc-deployment-using-serva-and-the-windows-post-installation-wizard/
- http://www.7tutorials.com/how-install-any-version-windows-other-network-computers
- http://s205blog.wordpress.com/2012/09/29/windows-7-pxe-network-install-turorial/
- http://s205blog.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/ubuntu-12-04-lte-pxe-network-installation-tutorial/
- http://www.7tutorials.com/how-install-any-version-windows-other-network-computers
- http://www.techanger.com/install-windows-7-from-network-share/
- http://tylertc.wordpress.com/2013/02/26/serva-pxe-boot/
- http://techsupportpk.blogspot.de/2013/07/serva-pxe-boot-say-goodbye-to-ris-wds.html
- http://winandtips.blogspot.com.es/2012/10/how-install-windows-with-network.html
- http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=197&t=126082
- http://www.milesi.org/wiki/doku.php?id=pxe
- http://bliz.co.za/educational/how-to/55-install-windows-over-the-network.html
- http://windows8learning.blogspot.com.es/2013/08/how-to-install-all-windows-os-from.html
- http://tricks1worlds.blogspot.com.es/2013/07/network-booting-to-install-windows-7.html
- http://rebholz.wordpress.com/2012/05/17/technical-how-to-installing-linux-edubuntu-using-pxe-boot-and-windows-7-as-a-server/
- http://cdn.ws.citrix.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/XenServer_unattended_installation_v10.pdf
- etc..
- Non-English:
- http://gigazine.net/news/20120712-serva/ (Japanese)
- http://xmms.jp/blog/comments.php?y=12&m=11&entry=entry121116-090052 (Japanese)
- http://www.kickinass.net/windows-ubers-netzwerk-per-pxe-installieren-mit-serva/ (German)
- http://computerfreunde.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=321 (German)
- http://juha.leivo.org/index.php/2013/07/pxe-ymprist/ (Finnish)
- http://remy-guillaume.fr/WordPress3/?p=178 (French)
- http://www.3dnews.ru/626279 (Rusian)
- http://klink0v.livejournal.com/91486.html (Rusian)
- http://logout.hu/cikk/windows_telepitese_halozatrol/bevezeto_elmelet.html (Hungarian)
- http://www.ewdna.com/2013/08/pxe-server-on-windows.html (Chinese)
- http://knowlet3389.blogspot.tw/2013/05/serva-httpftptftpdhcpproxydhcpbinldnssn.html (Chinese)
- http://hi.baidu.com/wendes/item/464d6a94e4f978d91b49dffd (Chinese)
- http://www.taringa.net/posts/hazlo-tu-mismo/15412812/Tutorial---Instarlar-Windows-desde-Red-Lan.html (Spanish)
- http://www.hardwareforyou.it/component/content/article/23-guide-tutorial-e-overclock-di-esempio/windows-tips-and-tricks/1519-windows-vista-7-o-8-installare-tramite-pxe-boot (Italian)
- http://sinhalablog.linkz2u.com/installing-operating-system-from-pxe-network-boot-environment/ (Sinhalese)
- etc...
- C't aricle (printed magazine)
- http://www.heise.de/ct/inhalt/2013/18/160/ (German)
- Restored, no policy reason for removal NE Ent 23:20, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
- SERVA is a "one of a kind project", providing automated features that dramatically simplify the creation of a PXE server delivering Windows and non-windows OSs for net booting. I wonder why SERVA has lately been systematically erased from this WP PXE page.
- For all the above at this point I propose to include SERVA project within the "See also" section of the WP PXE page.
- 213.37.84.214 (talk) 07:53, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)
- 1) Regarding "Cobbler":
- Sure there are many other projects like this, but are they notable enough to have articles in Wikipedia already? If so, please name a few of them, so that we can either list them all or pick the most representative/best one as an example. If not, are the other solutions notable by our criteria (WP:NOTABLE)? If so, please consider writing articles about them.
- Cobbler is listed in the See Also section, where we can only list stuff for which we have an article. Since Cobbler is conformant with WP:SEEALSO, I don't see a reason why we should remove it unless the situation changes.
- (edit conflict)
- 2) Regarding "El Torito":
- El Torito is clearly another boot concept, not directly related to PXE. However, semantically there are similaries, which may make El Torito interesting for someone interested in PXE and vice versa. The very purpose of the See Also section is to link to such topics per WP:SEEALSO. Both, PXE and El Torito are "remote" boot methods (when considering that CD/DVD/BD drives are typically not considered "local" drives like floppies, super-floppies, removable drives and fixed disks. El Torito retrieves a boot image from an El Torito complaint CD/DVD/BD medium and makes it available to the system by emulating a virtual drive so that the image's contents can be accessed sector-wise by the "higher"-level disk BIOS (INT 13h) and thereby it is transparent to operating system boot loaders. There is also a non-emulating mode for El Torito-aware boot loaders. PXE makes available boot images via network, the images can be generic or specific.
- These similaries are the rationale for its inclusion in the See Also section.
- 3) Regarding "ERPXE":
- As discussed on your talk page, ERPXE was included as it was not found to be controversial (neither the tool, nor the link) so far, whereas the link to SERVA was removed, because vercot.com was found to be suspicious by COIbot. The links to ERPXE were restored because they were removed by a suspected COI user/link SPAMmer, who at the same time tried to force links to SERVA into the article instead and even edit-wared over it. Things might have been different if the link would have been removed by someone else.
- Unfortunately, while you have declared that you do not have a COI and do not want to SPAM, you are still acting as someone with a single mission, getting SERVA included here by all means and other solutions removed.
- Therefore, I think, it is best to keep the ERPXE link in the article (perhaps replace the actual link by a better one) unless a clear majority of other editors wants it removed as well.
- 4) Regarding "SERVA":
- You wrote: "I have inserted Serva link in the articles that I consider is worthy to mention. i.e. Serva website has the best page on "Null Session Shares" ranking first place in google but you guys considered spam."
- We did not consider SERVA spam, but the links. Once more: vercot.com was found to be suspicious by COIbot, and your editing pattern suggests that you have a conflict-of-interest in regard to either SERVA or vercot.com, or both - you stated, that you do not have a COI, but so far your editing still indicates otherwise.
- That having said, I do think, SERVA is notable (and that's why I proposed to write an article about it, which we then could include under See Also, where WP:SEEALSO applies). Without an article, we could include it under External Links (where WP:EL applies), but not by using the vercot.com link (and also not by including more than one link). We will have to find a different link; something like the c't one would be fine, but it should better be in English to be helpful as external link.
- You wrote: "For all the above I consider and I propose here to include SERVA project within the "See also" section of the WP PXE page."
- It cannot be listed under See Also, as we do not have a page on SERVA so far. See WP:SEEALSO. The best solution would be to write an article about it.
- --Matthiaspaul (talk) 12:54, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- 1) I think you are not WP:LISTENing ; my point is not why the other projects are not here, my point is why is COBBLER here????
- The reason for removing COBBLER is because you guys do no present independent sources probing that COBBLER earns the right to be mentioned here. THe fact that COBBLER has a WP page does not make it a good PXE project.
- 2) You are wrong. El Torito has ZERO interest for someone looking after a PXE solution. I encourage you to read about it, El Torito and PXE have not common points. You are calling booting from a cd/dvd a remote boot? Please; A CD/DVD drive is locally attached and booting from them it's by all means considered local. Remote boot or net boot are terms that are used when booting from a network boot server.
- 3)Lets avoid mixing ERPXE and SERVA; Please let's talk ERPC at this point. I think if you guys want to add ERPXE please add the supporting independent material; I personally couldn't find other than material produced by ERPX people. If you guys cannot find that material either then let's erase ERPXE. As a side note let me add that if you restore an erased link you are somehow promoting the restored link, I think mechanically restoring erased links should be avoided; at the end being "suspected of" spammer it does not always mean you are a spammer. In this case you guys were wrong.
- 4) You guys can call me spammer, can call Serva spammer, can call vercot.com spammer or suspicious of whatever but at the end you have me here discussing technical stuff by WP rules and there's no SPAM nor COIs even if your guts tell you different.
- About Serva article I have said before I have no time plus Serva is not mine and I might not do a good job writing an article about it. Serva WP PXE link was always a single "External Link" pointing to two documents explaining the installation of Windows and non-Windows assets (their most important Application Notes) about the link in the same way Cobbler points to Cobbler website, Centos point to Centos website, Debian point to Debian website I find rather unfair you saying that Serva's link should not point to Serva's website. BTW Ct's article is not free (are you with C't?); Serva, their website and their information is free. You should read their pages; you'll learn a lot of PXE there. 213.37.84.214 (talk) 15:07, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- Matthiaspaul and I have consistently said the same thing. Your proposed changes are not guideline based arguments so do not convince me:
- 1) See also allows tangential subjects, 213.37.84.214's reasoning for removing it are not policy based and so I reject them completely as based on that editors opinion - we don't care about your opinion, we only care what sources say. We've been over this. Until you listen to that, instead of turning it around saying others aren't listening to you when your argument is not guideline/policy based and is unconvincing, no consensus can be reached to remove Cobbler so it will stay. To change the current WP:EDITCONSENSUS, the burden is on you to convince us to remove it (not for us to justify it).
- 2) ditto
- 3) ditto your burden to convince us. I wouldn't support changing the current EXT based on a WP:SPA editor (you claim not to have a COI, and we must take you at your word) with your edit profile of adding the same EXT to many articles. Screams COI even if it isn't. Your consideration that EXT links are promoting other projects gives the game away. There is no fairness needed in EXT inclusion, as they are not used for promotion. Period.
- 4) I cannot agree more with Matthiaspaul. Further both of us have repeated ourselves now, and without a sign from the IP editor that they are listening or basing arguments on policy/guidelines, this discussion should be kept concise and without any new or persuasive policy/guideline based arguments being used, it is all moot, and I feel no change is needed in the article. Ditto fairness. My gut feeling is the IP is disrupting based on advocacy / fair promotion. We don't care what you think about these topics, we only care what RS say. Seems like WP:DEADHORSE. Continuing to pursue this WP:SPA WP:ADVOCACY is disruptive. See WP:NOT#SOAPBOX. Widefox; talk 23:54, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- You Widefox are under the influence of a severe WP:COI attack. Remember a COI could be spotted not only by defending but also by attacking a particular project/idea (like you are doing against SERVA here).
- You have erased (even when that edition it is not signed here) the independent links that support the inclusion of SERVA in this page. You have erased links to articles written by many different people in many different languages, you have erased the kind of link you couldn't provide for supporting the projects that you are SPONSORING here.
- My proposed changes are based in facts that you cannot take (and dare to erase); You are PROMOTING projects here; you do not provide independent sources, then I do not have to convince you. You are definitely biased here.
- I want to report Widefox for erasing the research material I have included when supporting one of the projects ERASED by him in this page.
- 1) Widefox systematiclly refuses to provide the bases for supporting COBBLER inclusion. He does not have/know how to articulate the support for the mentioned project. I encourage Widefox to finally provide to the WP community the supporting material for the inclusion of COBBLER here. He is the one that systematically forces the inclusion of this project; it has to be him who knows and proves to the community the value of the mentioned project. My guideline based argument for removing COBBLER is that that project it is not representative of the PXE state of art.
- 2) You cannot say ditto; the guideline based argument for removing EL TORITO was clearly stated before; you are definitely not WP:LISTENing. EL TORITO has nothing to do with PXE; it is not even indirectly related to the PXE standard.
- 3) Again a magnificent display of WP:COI; your COI. You are trying to twist things putting the blame on me but that will not change facts: There is no independent material available for supporting the inclusion of ERPXE. Period. Again it is YOU who screams COI here while supporting one of your projects. Bring the material and I'll shut up; If not it isn't me the one that has to shut up on this.
- 4) your WP:COI is amazing; you cannot take defeat; and no matter what I write you want to promote the projects that you want while banning SERVA. If I bring links you erase the links, if I bring facts and arguments you call me "dead horse". You do not care about WP you just care about not bending your arm. You have no clue about PXE but you pretend to rule how the PXE page is written based on your guts feelings, personal taste, and friend projects.
- SERVA was included here for long time and it was you who recently took it down. I think you just went too far on this. Someone should stop you here.
- 213.37.84.214 (talk) 11:32, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
- I support 213.37.84.214 sayings .
- I think you guys ( Matthiaspaul & Widefox ) do not know the PXE topic and are being totally biased supporting unknown projects. I also want to see the independent sources supporting COBBLER and specially ERPXE. Unbelievable what you guys say about El Torito !
- I’m a PXE user, I use Serva and of course it has to be included here. Just my 2 cents.
- 31.109.31.229 (talk) 12:42, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Considering Matthiaspaul sayings.
Considering 31.109.31.229 sayings.
Disregarding Widefox saying for being reported and investigated for abusive behavior at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Widefox_Abusive_editor_with_banning_power.
Considering the references previously presented and WP:EXT guidelines.
I consider the inclusion of Serva as an external reference (as it was included for more than one year until recently removed by Widefox) is at this point more than justified and cannot be consider under any circumstance disruptive, spam, war editing, etc etc etc as user Widefox pretends to stigmatize all my editings.
At the same time it is clearly proved that 1) EL TORITO is not related to PXE 2) ERPXE sponsors have failed adding references supporting this inclusion. 3) COBBLER sponsors have failed adding references supporting this inclusion. Therefore removing them at this point is again more than justified and cannot be consider under any circumstance disruptive, spam, war editing, etc etc etc as user Widefox pretends to stigmatize all my editings.
For all of the above I request to remove the edit lock on this page which at the moment only protects Widefox personal interests.
213.37.84.214 (talk) 23:46, 11 October 2013 (UTC)