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:::There is no need to change the image caption, it provides a reference to the German occupation and that's fine. --[[User:E-960|E-960]] ([[User talk:E-960|talk]]) 18:26, 2 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:The mafia lead by Icewhiz rewrites history of the Holocaust transferring responsibility from Germany and Austria (and their smaller allies) to ''Poland''. Poland had its government in London and did not participate in the Holocaust. TThere was no ''holocaust in Poalnd'' but a series of German actions (also Ukrainian nationalists and Lithuanians) in different parts of occupied Poland. Wartheland Holocaust was led by Greiser and Operation Reinefarth was implemented in GG. Ignorants lack such basic informations.[[User:Xx236|Xx236]] ([[User talk:Xx236|talk]]) 08:21, 20 August 2019 (UTC) |
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Map - 960-990
I don't believe the borders to have been so exact as presented here. What is "Old Prussia" ? Further the Oder mouth was under control by the Vikings. And what about the Holy Roman Empire ? Boeing720 (talk) 10:16, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
- I don't think the Holy Roman Empire proper extend this far in the 10th century — what is now eastern Germany were Slavic lands paying tribute to the emperor, these borderlands were called Marches, but were not actually part of the empire. Old Prussia or Old Prussians were Balts, pagans living in a tribal society, before they were wiped out by the Teutonic Knights and replaced by German settlers. Mieszko I took the mouth of the Oder river in the 10th century.[1] No borders were exact at that time, and same can be said for the Holy Roman Empire and every other kingdom in the early middle ages — btw, I noticed the Holy Roman Empire article is stacked with maps to the point of ridiculous. --E-960 (talk) 18:46, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
References
- ^ The New Encyclopædia Britannica, Volume 11, Encyclopædia Britannica, 1998, p. 473 "In the 8th and 9th centuries Szczecin was a Slavic fishing and commercial settlement. During the 10th century, it was annexed to Poland by Mieszko."
Music
The best Polish composers /known in Europe and in the world/ are ex
Chopin Karol Szymanowski - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karol_Szymanowski Stanisław Moniuszko - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Moniuszko Marcin Mielczewski -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcin_Mielczewski, https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcin_Mielczewski
Artur Rubinstein was a performer of music
Please correct — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.184.71.147 (talk) 09:22, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Democratic backsliding
Should Poland's alleged democratic backsliding be mentioned somewhere in the lead? — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs) 09:01, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
Probably a good idea to incorporate that into the article. Political ideologies are one of the fundamental parts of a country, it's rather odd that there is no mention of it, especially considering the fact that Wikipedia's page for democratic backsliding mentions it. Originally Origins (talk) 09:21, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
- This was discussed already, and for broad articles such as this one, it is not optimal to include issues which are ongoing, especially that much of the controversy is just fueled by partisan voices; for example, Wolfgang Schauble said in a newspaper interview "that the rule of law means the observance of court rulings" and the German Bundestag president said in the Rzeczpospolita newspaper that "he has not seen a situation in which Poland has not observed Court of Justice of the EU (CJEU) verdicts."[1] Also, the lead paragraph is not a place as for "alleged" issues. --E-960 (talk) 18:37, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
The Holocaust in Poland
A recent well attended RM - Talk:The Holocaust in Poland/Archives/2019/July#Requested move 5 June 2019 concluded that The Holocaust in Poland should be at that title as a neutral descriptor. As background, there is a POV push in some circles - e.g. this Polish government site - to add "German-occupied"/"Nazi-occupied"/"occupied" to any phrase connecting Poland to the Holocaust. This revert reinstated a piped-link which circumvents the consensus achieved in the RM. Furthermore, considering the section already discussion the German invasion, occupation, and so on - repeating "German-occupied" is superfluous. Icewhiz (talk) 09:03, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- Pick one place to have the discussion at. Like here.Volunteer Marek (talk) 09:16, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- VM - as you are circumventing an established consensus for the article title in general - you shall have to provide a rationale (one would assume a different one) why a different title is appropriate in each specific article in which you chose to act against said consensus. Icewhiz (talk) 09:41, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- I am not "circumventing an established consensus". Stop making nonsense accusations. Stop making stuff up. Stop making false personal attacks and casting WP:ASPERSIONS. Stop smearing other editors with things which are just plainly not true. And please keep the discussion in one single place as requested.Volunteer Marek (talk) 09:44, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- These are separate discussions. Why do you want to use a different title in this article? Policy based rationale please for use of "the Holocaust in German occupied Poland" as opposed to the Holocaust in Poland - in this article. Icewhiz (talk) 10:03, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- I'm not wanting to change the title of this article. What are you talking about??? Volunteer Marek (talk) 07:33, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
- These are separate discussions. Why do you want to use a different title in this article? Policy based rationale please for use of "the Holocaust in German occupied Poland" as opposed to the Holocaust in Poland - in this article. Icewhiz (talk) 10:03, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- There is no need to change the image caption, it provides a reference to the German occupation and that's fine. --E-960 (talk) 18:26, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- I am not "circumventing an established consensus". Stop making nonsense accusations. Stop making stuff up. Stop making false personal attacks and casting WP:ASPERSIONS. Stop smearing other editors with things which are just plainly not true. And please keep the discussion in one single place as requested.Volunteer Marek (talk) 09:44, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- VM - as you are circumventing an established consensus for the article title in general - you shall have to provide a rationale (one would assume a different one) why a different title is appropriate in each specific article in which you chose to act against said consensus. Icewhiz (talk) 09:41, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- The mafia lead by Icewhiz rewrites history of the Holocaust transferring responsibility from Germany and Austria (and their smaller allies) to Poland. Poland had its government in London and did not participate in the Holocaust. TThere was no holocaust in Poalnd but a series of German actions (also Ukrainian nationalists and Lithuanians) in different parts of occupied Poland. Wartheland Holocaust was led by Greiser and Operation Reinefarth was implemented in GG. Ignorants lack such basic informations.Xx236 (talk) 08:21, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Interactive map
Oliszydlowski and Kozuch, I actually think the interactive map is a clever addition, which allows the reader to navigate through and see Poland in greater detail than the static picture map. Also, I'm not sure the "cities" argument is valid, since you can just zoom-in and see the cities by clicking on the interactive map. I think we should restore the iterative map. --E-960 (talk) 05:33, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
- Horrible OR map....pls see Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)#OpenStreetMap.--Moxy 🍁 05:38, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
links
the countries it borders on the page (on the top of the page) don't have links — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nathanael raymaine gentles (talk • contribs) 20:37, 19 August 2019 (UTC)