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:I disagree. Several subsects of Naths are represented. Several different academic sources have been used and cited. Several current Nath sects, both modern and ancient have been represented and their sources cited. Current editor [[User:Chai Walla]] and myself have discussed plans to include more material from these reputable academic references. Material so far is neutrallly stated. An nPOV tag is not appropriate for an article which adheres to WP nPOV standard but is simply lacking some information you consider pertinent. Please point out even a single sentence which you consider not to be neutrally stated and why. —[[User:Adityanath|Adityanath]] |
:I disagree. Several subsects of Naths are represented. Several different academic sources have been used and cited. Several current Nath sects, both modern and ancient have been represented and their sources cited. Current editor [[User:Chai Walla]] and myself have discussed plans to include more material from these reputable academic references. Material so far is neutrallly stated. An nPOV tag is not appropriate for an article which adheres to WP nPOV standard but is simply lacking some information you consider pertinent. Please point out even a single sentence which you consider not to be neutrally stated and why. —[[User:Adityanath|Adityanath]] |
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::For the record, I don't think the article is intentionly biased. It may not be as complete as it could be, but that is something which will be naturally remedied over time. A peek at the edit history shows that it has been significant expanded in the last month or so. There is no reason to believe that this will not continue. ---[[User:Baba Louis|Baba Louis]] 20:58, 3 April 2006 (UTC) |
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This is a general article about the Naths and the Nath Sampradaya. Details which are specific to one panth or one teacher should go into a separate article about that panth or teacher. Historical facts and beliefs and practices which are common to all panths and teachers are what belongs in this article. If you disagree, please discuss here. —Adityanath 15:41, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
Moving discussion from WP:CP
- Nath (history · last edit) from [1]. 71.116.184.140 07:07, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
- I am the user who added the quote from Shri Gurudev Mahendranath works. I am a member of the copyright committee of the organization (International Nath Order) which holds the copyright. We don't think that there is any question that this usage is allowed under fair use as long as the original works are referenced and linked in the references section. The same article with the same quotes has been submitted by us to several other GFDL sites. To be clear, we are not releasing the quotes under GFDL, we are acknowledging that we consider the use to be fair use. —Adityanath 13:49, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
- This is a quote. It might be a little long (I don't think so), but it is clearly indicated as a quote and seems appropriate to the context. Matt 02:33, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- I am in agreement with the reasoning and hence I removed Nath from copyright problems. --Gurubrahma 03:06, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
- This is a quote. It might be a little long (I don't think so), but it is clearly indicated as a quote and seems appropriate to the context. Matt 02:33, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
NPOV Discussion
I have to concur that the article is NPOV as it doesn't reflect the full historical context about the Nath Sampradaya but only the POV of one subchapter of a modern sect. Nath Sampradaya in its entirety is a Diaspora of gurus, sects, monasteries & luminaries reaching back to ancient times. This cannot neatly packaged or cataloged. In general there are no specific rules about who can be a guru and who cannot be a guru. Naths are very free style & open ended. Perspectives and biases of modern writers does not accurately reflect the ancient origins of this tradition, which is rich with innumerable texts from well-respected gurus and luminaries, rather than modern western pedants. Hamsacharya dan 04:21, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- I disagree. Several subsects of Naths are represented. Several different academic sources have been used and cited. Several current Nath sects, both modern and ancient have been represented and their sources cited. Current editor User:Chai Walla and myself have discussed plans to include more material from these reputable academic references. Material so far is neutrallly stated. An nPOV tag is not appropriate for an article which adheres to WP nPOV standard but is simply lacking some information you consider pertinent. Please point out even a single sentence which you consider not to be neutrally stated and why. —Adityanath
- For the record, I don't think the article is intentionly biased. It may not be as complete as it could be, but that is something which will be naturally remedied over time. A peek at the edit history shows that it has been significant expanded in the last month or so. There is no reason to believe that this will not continue. ---Baba Louis 20:58, 3 April 2006 (UTC)