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Why is there a smugness to Mariah's page
Why does there seem to be a smugness on Mariah Carey's wikipedia page. She has stated she did not have an emotional breakdown and the page seems to try and discredit her success. Does the author not like Mariah for some reason — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.38.134.213 (talk) 19:30, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- Please give some examples. — Calvin999 19:45, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
- Where henny? troublednbored (talk) 21:10, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
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Personal Life
Can't we add that she has/is dating Aussy Billionaire James Packer? They even went down a red carpet together last week and she's more than confirmed it.--2602:306:C400:1A60:C04F:37BB:6908:3195 (talk) 00:42, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
- Not sure if it's noteworthy enough to include yet, confirmed or not. Snuggums (talk / edits) 01:32, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
Forbes 9th Highest Earning Female Musician 2015; $27 million
Please include this in the article.--2602:306:C400:1A60:A877:CD38:A4D9:F9BA (talk) 08:11, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
RfC: Are "African American" categories supported by sources and policy?
I'm curious if the community actually agrees that these categories are legitimate on this and similar articles. Some of the potential issues raised:
- Nothing in this article's sourced content suggests that Carey actually self-identifies as African-American, only that she's said that being of mixed ethnic background caused familial tensions and some social challenges growing up.
- Reaching from such a statement to an assumption about how Carey identifies and should be categorized (i.e. labelled by Wikipedia) may be novel analysis and interpretation.
- This is especially risky, and countermanded, in a biography of a living person.
- It may also even advance the controversial, anti-scientific, and politically loaded "one-drop rule" in Wikipedia's own voice.
- Most Americans with diverse ethno-cultural backgrounds do not self-identify as, and resist pigeonholing as "an anything" in particular and singularly.
- It's noteworthy that we have not categorized this subject as a "Venezuelan American singer-songwriter" or more generally a "Hispanic American singer-songwriter", nor as an "Irish American singer-songwriter", or anything else.
- It may not be sufficient that some sources might want to label Carey in particular ways for their own reasons and in their own contexts.
- Wikipedia is not a genealogy work; pigeonholing subjects with iffy micro-categorization trivia representing everyone's ancestral heritage in detail is not relevant to WP's encyclopedia mission and purpose.
- This may raise similar concerns to categorizing someone who is in a heterosexual [or homosexual, take your pick] marriage as "bisexual" just because they said they once had a homosexual [or hetero, if you want to reverse it] encounter.
- Singling out "Africanness" as something to especially categorize seems inappropriate dwelling, whether it's being done for positive or negative reasons.
These are general concerns, not limited to Carey's case in particular. In short, I'm skeptical we'd ever categorize someone as a "Jewish American whatever" on the basis of partial ancestry and a few sources engaging in such labelling, absent unequivocal use/acceptance of such a label by the subject, at least for a WP:BLP.
[I'm including this as a titles/style RfC as well as the other categories, since it could affect use of ethnic terms in parenthetic disambiguation.]
— SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 22:19, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion is an extension of Talk:African Americans#How the hell is Mariah Carey African American?. A WP:Permalink for it is here. I noted there, among other things, that "Carey identifies as African American, is part African American, and a variety of WP:Reliable sources state that she's African American; that's how she counts as African American." I think that this WP:RfC SMcCandlish started is more so a matter for the WP:BLPCAT and WP:ETHNICRACECAT talk pages; I'll go ahead and alert those talk pages to this discussion. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 22:44, 28 November 2015 (UTC)