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::pretty much all gay actorshave their orientation on thier pages, as do straight actors. And its not a "claim," some opinion or hypothesis, is a fact that Hewson has stated multiple times on their verified social media accounts. The fact that you both seem so adamant in keeping this info off their page is very strange and telling, and my basis for calling out homophobia.[[User:R.A Huston|R.A Huston]] ([[User talk:R.A Huston|talk]]) 14:54, 2 November 2018 (UTC) |
::pretty much all gay actorshave their orientation on thier pages, as do straight actors. And its not a "claim," some opinion or hypothesis, is a fact that Hewson has stated multiple times on their verified social media accounts. The fact that you both seem so adamant in keeping this info off their page is very strange and telling, and my basis for calling out homophobia.[[User:R.A Huston|R.A Huston]] ([[User talk:R.A Huston|talk]]) 14:54, 2 November 2018 (UTC) |
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:::I'm glad you appear to have stopped edit warring for the moment, but you need to cease the personal attacks immediately. I won't engage with the arguments presented by somebody who's being uncivil, and you will probably get banned. --[[User:ChiveFungi|ChiveFungi]] ([[User talk:ChiveFungi|talk]]) 15:08, 2 November 2018 (UTC) |
:::I'm glad you appear to have stopped edit warring for the moment, but you need to cease the personal attacks immediately. I won't engage with the arguments presented by somebody who's being uncivil, and you will probably get banned. --[[User:ChiveFungi|ChiveFungi]] ([[User talk:ChiveFungi|talk]]) 15:08, 2 November 2018 (UTC) |
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:::: Ok, then what is the problem with putting their orientationon this article?Because I'm not seeing any rational reason, hence my "personal attack" (which wasn't at all). [[User:R.A Huston|R.A Huston]] ([[User talk:R.A Huston|talk]]) 10:37, 3 November 2018 (UTC) |
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February 2017
There's been some edit warring recently over whether Hewson is an "actor" or "actress", because Hewson indicates a preference for gender neutral pronouns on personal twitter and instragram profiles. There's also been fighting over the inclusion of these categories. In my opinion, I think "actor" would be just fine, but I can understand why this might confuse the average reader, and as far as I know there are (recent) reliable sources coming out referring to Liv Hewson as an "actress". The last thing I want to do is cause WP:HARM, as someone who's misgendered all the damn time, I get how frustrating it can be, I really do. I wish I knew what the correct thing to do in this situation is, because I *know* it isn't unique. Just can't think of another example right now. It would be interesting if Liv Hewson themself could give their thoughts on the issue. I don't think IP's get pings but just in case this works: @71.217.89.7, 73.140.248.10, 201.103.35.158, 2001:980:eee0:1:30ac:48ca:504b:d04, and 75.170.57.1: Sro23 (talk) 08:18, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
March 2018
According to Liv Hewson, she is one of all Australian residents who started acting in 2013. Her breakout role is the Netflix television series, Santa Clarita Diet.
Keep the closed case in mind. Rectify 54 14:14, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
Twitter as source
User:Atlantic306: Where does it say that Twitter is WP:RS for "uncontroversial information"? Even if the subject uses "us" and them" pronouns that doesn't mean that WP has to adopt this formulation and referring to them by their surname is perfectly acceptable and not contrary to their gender identification. Mztourist (talk) 03:08, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
- The WP:RSN if you search the archive under twitter shows that is acceptable for some information and the MOS:GENDERID says that they pronouns should be used if the subject uses them, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 10:56, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
- See also WP:SELFSOURCE. --ChiveFungi (talk) 12:07, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
Liv Hewson is gay
Liv Hewson is gay.They have said so many times. I am not sure what certain users problems are with gay people, but it sure is weird.R.A Huston (talk) 12:25, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
- There need to be multiple independent high-quality reliable sources for this kind of claim about her. Twitter and abeautifulperspective.com are not obvious reliable sources.-- Toddy1 (talk) 15:28, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
- Twitter is appropriate for some information per WP:SELFSOURCE. However without secondary sources, it's hard to establish whether them being gay is a notable fact. If you'd stop edit warring and baselessly accusing people of homophobia for one second we could discuss whether it's relevant to include in the article. --ChiveFungi (talk) 12:01, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
- pretty much all gay actorshave their orientation on thier pages, as do straight actors. And its not a "claim," some opinion or hypothesis, is a fact that Hewson has stated multiple times on their verified social media accounts. The fact that you both seem so adamant in keeping this info off their page is very strange and telling, and my basis for calling out homophobia.R.A Huston (talk) 14:54, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
- I'm glad you appear to have stopped edit warring for the moment, but you need to cease the personal attacks immediately. I won't engage with the arguments presented by somebody who's being uncivil, and you will probably get banned. --ChiveFungi (talk) 15:08, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
- Ok, then what is the problem with putting their orientationon this article?Because I'm not seeing any rational reason, hence my "personal attack" (which wasn't at all). R.A Huston (talk) 10:37, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
- I'm glad you appear to have stopped edit warring for the moment, but you need to cease the personal attacks immediately. I won't engage with the arguments presented by somebody who's being uncivil, and you will probably get banned. --ChiveFungi (talk) 15:08, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
- pretty much all gay actorshave their orientation on thier pages, as do straight actors. And its not a "claim," some opinion or hypothesis, is a fact that Hewson has stated multiple times on their verified social media accounts. The fact that you both seem so adamant in keeping this info off their page is very strange and telling, and my basis for calling out homophobia.R.A Huston (talk) 14:54, 2 November 2018 (UTC)