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I am extremely inclined to accept this draft as an article; and in fact will do so unilaterally in the next 36 hours unless somebody beats me to it or makes a compelling policy objection. Regarding the objections: the [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fuck Joe Biden]] discussion closed in September, and the "Let's go Brandon" video is from October 2. There is substantial coverage of the slogan since then; [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58878473 BBC] and [https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/10/lets-go-brandon-meaning-nascar-republicans-joe-biden.html Slate] are just two of the sources from the article, and are enough on their own to meet GNG. And the "it's too new" arguments are not based in policy; we don't wait a month to have coverage of coups, sports events, or [[The dress|memes about a dress]]. [[User:力]] (power~enwiki, [[User talk:力|<span style="color:#FA0;font-family:courier">π</span>]], [[Special:Contributions/力|<span style="font-family:courier">ν</span>]]) 17:44, 26 October 2021 (UTC) |
I am extremely inclined to accept this draft as an article; and in fact will do so unilaterally in the next 36 hours unless somebody beats me to it or makes a compelling policy objection. Regarding the objections: the [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fuck Joe Biden]] discussion closed in September, and the "Let's go Brandon" video is from October 2. There is substantial coverage of the slogan since then; [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58878473 BBC] and [https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/10/lets-go-brandon-meaning-nascar-republicans-joe-biden.html Slate] are just two of the sources from the article, and are enough on their own to meet GNG. And the "it's too new" arguments are not based in policy; we don't wait a month to have coverage of coups, sports events, or [[The dress|memes about a dress]]. [[User:力]] (power~enwiki, [[User talk:力|<span style="color:#FA0;font-family:courier">π</span>]], [[Special:Contributions/力|<span style="font-family:courier">ν</span>]]) 17:44, 26 October 2021 (UTC) |
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: Based on the discussion at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kelli Stavast]], I have immediately accepted the draft. I doubt an AFD of this article will get anywhere, but I can't stop people from nominating the article. [[User:力]] (power~enwiki, [[User talk:力|<span style="color:#FA0;font-family:courier">π</span>]], [[Special:Contributions/力|<span style="font-family:courier">ν</span>]]) 19:11, 26 October 2021 (UTC) |
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Another draft
It still needs a copy edit and some sourcing touch up, but this is my initial go at it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Globgenie/sandbox .
Some will claim some of the sources are mentioned at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources (like Newsweek), but that is not a policy or guideline, nor is consensus clear since none of the sources are depreciated. Also, they are often backed by video and other sources. Other sources include BBC, Business Insider, The Independent, and more.
I went away from the structure initially shown on the draft page, but it can be edited to conform or used instead. Regardless, I think it gives a good start.
At this time I do not see any violations of BLP or neutrality, while there are enough local, national, and even international sources detailing the chant to give it notability (even if it has only been two months).Globgenie (talk) 08:29, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
Years later...
@Scope creep: "Epstein Didn't Kill Himself" was created only three months after his death and is now a big article. I'm not saying this is a strong article or ready for the mainspace or anything but if this continues to get coverage and be used over the next few months I think it's valid and not necessary to wait for years. ₪ Encyclopædius 12:03, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Encyclopædius: Resubmit it and see what happens. Using another article exists approach ins't a particularly good way or perhaps profitable way of approaching an argument for promoting it. Neo's don't have much in the way of historical depth which a lot of editor's don't like and they tend to get a lot of push back, when they are mainspace. They of an immediate type of event, of the moment, in this particular instance are only visible at scale because of Biden. If he wasn't mentioned, would it still be notable? Likely not, otherwise it would have been fans mouthing off. Epstein Didn't Kill Himself is already meaningless pap, that everybody has already forgotten about. It was off the moment and now gone. It is meaningless. I meant wait a few months, to see if they historical weight on it, not years. scope_creepTalk 14:12, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
- WP:NOTTEMPORARY (*Notability is not temporary; once a topic has been the subject of "significant coverage" in accordance with the general notability guideline, it does not need to have ongoing coverage.*) I plan on updating the draft with additional information from todays WaPo article to bolster that it meets sourcing requirements. Neutrality and other policies don't seem to be in question.
- Additionally, "Articles on neologisms that have little or no usage in reliable sources are commonly deleted..." per "Wikipedia is not a dictionary". That reasoning is not relevant since the draft includes multiple sources and discusses the meme in detail.Globgenie (talk) 23:05, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
- Curbon7 declined plublishing since there was previous consensus to remove. I have added yet another three sources (this is like a dozen since that AfD) and resubmitted. This is why Trump Jr cries about supposed censorship. The article is well sourced, properly structured, and clearly meets GNG. This is starting to look a lot like IDONTLIKEIT. Again, "neologisms" does not apply since this draft details the orgin, use, and reception of the term over two months (and again, notability is not temporary with BBC, AP, The Independent, and many more showing significant international coverage). Globgenie (talk) 05:07, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- For better or for worse, I believe this article's rejection is an example of Wikipedia:Of course it's voting and Wikipedia:Ignore all rules. I see very little chance of anyone succeeding in making this article in current political climate. The best chance would be a painstaking systematic analysis of the notability of articles like I can't breathe in comparison to this one, but is the work worth it? MarshallKe (talk) 15:54, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Curbon7 declined plublishing since there was previous consensus to remove. I have added yet another three sources (this is like a dozen since that AfD) and resubmitted. This is why Trump Jr cries about supposed censorship. The article is well sourced, properly structured, and clearly meets GNG. This is starting to look a lot like IDONTLIKEIT. Again, "neologisms" does not apply since this draft details the orgin, use, and reception of the term over two months (and again, notability is not temporary with BBC, AP, The Independent, and many more showing significant international coverage). Globgenie (talk) 05:07, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- @Encyclopædius: Resubmit it and see what happens. Using another article exists approach ins't a particularly good way or perhaps profitable way of approaching an argument for promoting it. Neo's don't have much in the way of historical depth which a lot of editor's don't like and they tend to get a lot of push back, when they are mainspace. They of an immediate type of event, of the moment, in this particular instance are only visible at scale because of Biden. If he wasn't mentioned, would it still be notable? Likely not, otherwise it would have been fans mouthing off. Epstein Didn't Kill Himself is already meaningless pap, that everybody has already forgotten about. It was off the moment and now gone. It is meaningless. I meant wait a few months, to see if they historical weight on it, not years. scope_creepTalk 14:12, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let%27s_go,_Brandon is now live. If people wanted to work in good faith then they can continue to do so there.Globgenie (talk) 09:40, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
Accepting?
I am extremely inclined to accept this draft as an article; and in fact will do so unilaterally in the next 36 hours unless somebody beats me to it or makes a compelling policy objection. Regarding the objections: the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fuck Joe Biden discussion closed in September, and the "Let's go Brandon" video is from October 2. There is substantial coverage of the slogan since then; BBC and Slate are just two of the sources from the article, and are enough on their own to meet GNG. And the "it's too new" arguments are not based in policy; we don't wait a month to have coverage of coups, sports events, or memes about a dress. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 17:44, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Based on the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kelli Stavast, I have immediately accepted the draft. I doubt an AFD of this article will get anywhere, but I can't stop people from nominating the article. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 19:11, 26 October 2021 (UTC)