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== Semi-protected edit request on 27 February 2024 == |
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{{Edit semi-protected|Joseph Stalin|answered=yes}} |
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This phrase in the introduction can be a little unclear: |
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To eradicate accused "enemies of the working class" |
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Please replace it with: |
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To eradicate those deemed "enemies of the working class" |
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"Accused" means people who were accused of this, but it can be misread as a verb ([[garden-path sentence]]) and confuse the reader. [[Special:Contributions/123.51.107.94|123.51.107.94]] ([[User talk:123.51.107.94|talk]]) 22:28, 27 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:Jamedeus|Jamedeus]] ([[User talk:Jamedeus|talk]]) 23:03, 27 February 2024 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 27 February 2024 (2) == |
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{{edit semi-protected|Joseph Stalin|answered=yes}} |
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Please remove this sentence: |
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In April, Stalin came third in the Bolshevik elections for the party's Central Committee; Lenin came first and Zinoviev came second. |
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and replace it with this: |
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In April, Stalin came third in the Bolshevik elections for the party's Central Committee, after Lenin and Zinoviev. |
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It's simpler, and Lenin's and Zinoviev's places are obvious from the structure. [[Special:Contributions/123.51.107.94|123.51.107.94]] ([[User talk:123.51.107.94|talk]]) 00:32, 28 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:I'm not sure about this one - it creates slight ambiguity about who won, which is an important detail. I agree that it's fairly obvious, but I could see readers approaching the topic for the first time being confused. There is no linked page where they could confirm the answer, and all the citations are books, so it may be best to state this explicitly. [[User:Jamedeus|Jamedeus]] ([[User talk:Jamedeus|talk]]) 01:09, 28 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now:''' please establish a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] for this alteration '''[[Wikipedia:Edit requests|before]]''' using the {{Tlx|Edit semi-protected}} template.<!-- Template:ESp --> <span class="nowrap">—[[User:TechnoSquirrel69|TechnoSquirrel69]]</span> ([[User talk:TechnoSquirrel69|sigh]]) 05:51, 29 February 2024 (UTC) |
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== Edit request on March 3, 2024 == |
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::The NYT report actually only teasers the book ''Stalin's Last Crime'' by Brent and Naumov. So at least the thesis should be correctly attributed to those two authors. [[User:Assayer|Assayer]] ([[User talk:Assayer|talk]]) 09:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC) |
::The NYT report actually only teasers the book ''Stalin's Last Crime'' by Brent and Naumov. So at least the thesis should be correctly attributed to those two authors. [[User:Assayer|Assayer]] ([[User talk:Assayer|talk]]) 09:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::Support a move to the Death article. [[User:Firefangledfeathers|Firefangledfeathers]] ([[User talk:Firefangledfeathers|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers|contribs]]) 13:20, 11 April 2024 (UTC) |
::Support a move to the Death article. [[User:Firefangledfeathers|Firefangledfeathers]] ([[User talk:Firefangledfeathers|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers|contribs]]) 13:20, 11 April 2024 (UTC) |
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== Georgian-born in the lede == |
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Why should “Georgian-born” not be included in the lede? “Soviet” was not his nationality by birth. Other leaders of the WW2 era all have their nationalities in the lede of their articles such as [[Adolf Hitler]], [[Winston Churchill]], [[Franklin D. Roosevelt]], [[Benito Mussolini]] and so on. Why should Joseph Stalin’s nationality be excluded from the lede? “Soviet” included way more than just Georgians. Erroneously people think that Soviet equals Russian which was not the case at all. Stalin was proud of his Georgian roots and there’s no reason to exclude his nationality from the lede of the article about him. [[User:QueenCoatsie|QueenCoatsie]] ([[User talk:QueenCoatsie|talk]]) 15:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:I agree, but look at the archives: this has been discussed many times.--[[User:Jack Upland|Jack Upland]] ([[User talk:Jack Upland|talk]]) 03:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC) |
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Edit request on March 3, 2024
Hello! In this article Josef Vissarionovich Stalin's name is spelled with a "ph" instead of an "f" at the end. I understand this is the translation of the name, but it is important to know that, and it is not mentioned in this article. It is a popular error, but important to note. I would change the title from "Joseph Stalin" to "Josef (Joseph) Vissarionovich Stalin" -middle name optional. Thank you so much! Oli&Dove (talk) 16:30, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- "Joseph" is used much more commonly in English-language works, and English-translated material published in the Soviet Union likewise tended to use Joseph rather than Josef, Iosif, or other variations. --Ismail (talk) 16:49, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Be bold - Wikipedia 2600:1700:1150:41B0:F810:8FAA:661A:9542 (talk) 01:56, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Warfarin poisoning
I know this topic was already broached a few years ago on the TP. Currently the article states that "According to a report published in The New York Times, Stalin was poisoned with warfarin by his own Politburo members." While this story is supported by some medical sources (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4524003/), another more recent medical analysis published in 2023 claims that "It appears highly unlikely that Stalin was poisoned by warfarin or a similar class of anti-coagulant." (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10105823/) It might be worth pointing out that the Warfarin theory is at least disputed, although perhaps this is best left to the "Death and state funeral of Joseph Stalin" page. 2A00:23C7:9992:E701:8814:AAAD:270:C5D8 (talk) 21:33, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think this should all be moved to the Death article.--Jack Upland (talk) 03:10, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- The NYT report actually only teasers the book Stalin's Last Crime by Brent and Naumov. So at least the thesis should be correctly attributed to those two authors. Assayer (talk) 09:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support a move to the Death article. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:20, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Georgian-born in the lede
Why should “Georgian-born” not be included in the lede? “Soviet” was not his nationality by birth. Other leaders of the WW2 era all have their nationalities in the lede of their articles such as Adolf Hitler, Winston Churchill, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Benito Mussolini and so on. Why should Joseph Stalin’s nationality be excluded from the lede? “Soviet” included way more than just Georgians. Erroneously people think that Soviet equals Russian which was not the case at all. Stalin was proud of his Georgian roots and there’s no reason to exclude his nationality from the lede of the article about him. QueenCoatsie (talk) 15:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- I agree, but look at the archives: this has been discussed many times.--Jack Upland (talk) 03:49, 22 May 2024 (UTC)