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*In principle, I agree with the UNDUE concerns. However, wrt BLP it should be noted that things like the Mencia situation and Rogan's take on e.g. drugs etc became internet memes in no small part because Rogan himself actively maintains a youtube channel and frequently comments on these issues (not just in his standup performances). So, I agree with culling some or even most of it, but on grounds of UNDUE and V rather than BLP. --[[Special:Contributions/213.196.211.14|213.196.211.14]] ([[User talk:213.196.211.14|talk]]) 23:18, 27 July 2011 (UTC) |
*In principle, I agree with the UNDUE concerns. However, wrt BLP it should be noted that things like the Mencia situation and Rogan's take on e.g. drugs etc became internet memes in no small part because Rogan himself actively maintains a youtube channel and frequently comments on these issues (not just in his standup performances). So, I agree with culling some or even most of it, but on grounds of UNDUE and V rather than BLP. --[[Special:Contributions/213.196.211.14|213.196.211.14]] ([[User talk:213.196.211.14|talk]]) 23:18, 27 July 2011 (UTC) |
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::Sure; I appreciate that; they're valid points, that I'm sure can be taken into consideration while we improve it; thanks, IP-editor, you've been nice about all of this. Can I [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?|interest you in getting an account]], perhaps? <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white"> Chzz </span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;"> ► </span>]]</span></small> 23:36, 27 July 2011 (UTC) |
::Sure; I appreciate that; they're valid points, that I'm sure can be taken into consideration while we improve it; thanks, IP-editor, you've been nice about all of this. Can I [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?|interest you in getting an account]], perhaps? <small><span style="border:1px solid;background:#00008B">[[User:Chzz|'''<span style="background:#00008B;color:white"> Chzz </span>''']][[User talk:Chzz|<span style="color:#00008B;background-color:yellow;"> ► </span>]]</span></small> 23:36, 27 July 2011 (UTC) |
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Related to Gerard Way and Mikey Way, lead singer and bass player (respectively) of the band My Chemical Romance (Gerard and Mikey are Joe's mother's cousin's sons)
Martial Arts Background
How bout some background on Joe's martial arts background, at the moment it only mentions that he is a brown belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, i found this quote about his Tae Kwon Do "Joe began practicing martial arts at the age of 13. Within two years, the Boston native earned a black belt and soon became the Massachusetts full contact Tae Kwon Do champion four consecutive years. By the age of 19, Rogan won the US Open Tae Kwon Do Championship, and in true Joe Rogan fashion, began calling himself "Tae Kwon Do Joe." The lightweight champion went on to beat both the middle and heavyweight title-holders to obtain the Grand Championship. Joe credits Tae Kwon Do for his discipline and focus, two characteristics which have enabled him to accomplish many things."
66.235.39.100
I just watched a re-run of UFC 63 in which Rogan mentions he was a US Open Tae Kwon Do champion. The he went to say that TKD is useless! -Cazador 10/06/07 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.235.39.100 (talk) 23:50, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
According to Machado's website, Joe Rogan is actually a purple belt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.107.218.125 (talk) 04:23, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Don't forget, he's the inventor of Joe-Jitsu! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.241.58.241 (talk) 16:26, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Baseball
Joe is huge Redsox fan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.218.164.232 (talk) 04:06, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
pyschedelic use
maybe something should be added about his avid psychedelic use, like smoking DMT, also he has a sensory depravatoin chamber. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.66.240.184 (talk) 17:12, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
- , joe rogans psychedelic use is great. Psychedelics open up the gigantic box of ignorance that prevails against most everyday people who cannot comprehend the raw truth about certain beliefs and in-depth discussions that ultimately lead to a factor of intellectual wisdom. Joe rogan shows this when he discusses certain corresponding relationships of humanities perceptive inclination about the modern world on his pod-casts.USER:Andreas jr
Confrontation with Mencia
I believe that the confrontation with Mencia should be incorporated into a sepreate section under joe rogan as it has resulted in some serious fallout.
It should be noted that Rogan was not bringing up Ari. Ari was there but was not the one who was about to perform. Check the clip.
Also - why no mention of his conflicts with Dane Cook? Also available on Youtube.
Seeing as Joe Rogan's accusations of material theft now take up more space than any other portion of his career, it's probably worthwhile. Max Overload 14:33, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Seems Carlos Mencia got caught again, but this time not by Joe. Perhaps this verifies the claims?[1] Tavor 06:59, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
- Claims? Claiming another comedian stole your routine is itself a routine dating back to at least Vaudville. It's seems like it's making up the majority of Rogan's post-Fear Factor career. Too many comedians who deal with topical comedy fail to believe in any chance of parallel invention.Max Overload 16:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, Mencia has hacked jokes written years before by other comics whom he has certainly seen.75.111.57.38 19:51, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- Please provide this proof & it will be added, as well as added to Mencia's page. Zchris87v 03:26, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, Mencia has hacked jokes written years before by other comics whom he has certainly seen.75.111.57.38 19:51, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- Claims? Claiming another comedian stole your routine is itself a routine dating back to at least Vaudville. It's seems like it's making up the majority of Rogan's post-Fear Factor career. Too many comedians who deal with topical comedy fail to believe in any chance of parallel invention.Max Overload 16:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Similarly, I've removed the following part per WP:BLP: "Not mentioned by Rogan, was repeat of Ari's jokes by multiple other comedians. Indicating that Rogan has a hidden agenda against Mencia." If someone can find a reliable third-party source stating that Rogan has a hidden agenda against Mencia, then please add the information back in with a citation. ShadowHalo 08:26, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Allegations of Homophobia
An article on TMZ dated June 14, 2007 talks about comedian ANT labeling Rogan a homophobe.[[2]] A blog entry on ANT's official myspace page dated the same day, provides more details.[[3]]
- thats interesting because i seen an interview where rogan stated he wouldnt mind including guys in his sex life. maybe it was part of a comedy act, i dunno. wish i could find the source though... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.86.179.34 (talk) 19:19, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Just because a shitty comic calls him a homophobe doesn't mean he is one. If you were at all familiar with his work and philosophies you would know such a thing is preposterous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.221.105.3 (talk) 00:42, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
The Flame War
I'm suprised there's nothing in here about the flame war that he had with "Kevin" a while back, created quite the stir on the interwebs. If anyone who cares enough about Joe Rogan to read this is willing to add it, please do.
Most famous people have their own internet forums, Joe Rogan is no exception. His forum at http://www.joerogan.net/ has everything from racial hate, sexist hate, gay and lesbian hate, illegal drug use, pornography, flaming and e bullying from his self appointed moderators to new posters who ask the comic direct questions, just to name a few things that happen on his forums. Joe, himself encourages this type of cyber bullying to his "fans". It is really no wonder the above incident happened on my space. WRONG.
Connection with Alex Jones
Is it worth noting in this article that Rogan is a long-time friend of Radio host/'Conspiracy Theorist' Alex Jones? He's appeared on camera with Jones several times throughout the years. --Baltech22 00:07, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Considering he disputes the moon landing, quite possibly.
The connection appears to be Sacred Cow (Bill Hicks company, now run by Kevin Booth IIRC), they seem quite friendly in the videos they made together. Off topic but one of them is hilarious, where Joe offers Alex some pot, but Alex claims he doesn't smoke that stuff because it makes him paranoid!! Marty funkhouser (talk) 02:39, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
http://redban.com/audio/CARLOS.wmv
UFC Career
This article mentions nothing of Rogan's affliation with UFC being a color commentator. This is perhaps more well know than his time on Game Show in Your Head. Rogan started at UFC 10 doing back stage interviews with fighters such as Randy Couture after his UFC 10 win. He left after a few UFC events and was replaced by James Werme. (I would need to go back to see when he was replaced by Werme but by memory it was perhaps around UFC 15??)Rogan came back to the organization at UFC 40. This information should be listed in the main article as the UFC is a long running and current endeavor Rogan is and has been heavily involved in. --mrcove 20 March 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.229.241.171 (talk) 01:19, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
I remember seeing Rogan on an old UFC PPV event (don't remember the exact date but is was probably around UFC 50-55) where he said that he started with them at UFC 14 back in the dark ages. That would contradict the statement in this article that he started at UFC 40. --Bk0 (Talk) 00:20, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
- Just heard Rogan on Scott Ferrall's show (Sirius Satellite Radio), he said he started with the UFC in 1996 in Alabama. That would probably be UFC 10. --Bk0 (Talk) 22:23, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, when Rogan started he was only doing post fight interviews, I believe. Chaos0mega 10:34, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
He didn't sign a contract until much later on, he just done UFC early on as a favor to the big man, heard that in an interview ( http://www.sherdogvideos.com/events/ufc67/ufc67_post_rogan.wmv ). he explains it there....
I would also like to stress the importance of this... I would say Joe Rogan is known primarily for his UFC work these days and its arguably his biggest gig since Fear Factor... His article definitely needs something about his colour commentary work with the UFC —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.109.58.222 (talk) 20:50, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- I seen him doing a post match interview in UFC 10 earlier today. Aj10101 (talk) 08:17, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Neutrality
Most of the new information in this article is coming from Joe Rogan's personal website/blog. I don't think Mr. Rogan is maintaining a NPOV about the situation he's created and I believe it's bleeding over into the article. Also, a lot of the rest of the information in this article seems to come from unconfirmed claims made by Joe Rogan. One statement even includes in the same sentece that there is citation available to disprove the claim. Max Overload 14:49, 17 February 2007
I believe Joe Rogan has also accused comedian Dennis Leary of stealing material from Bill Hicks can this be verified confirmed?
He admits to as much on a blog entry. Unfortunately, I can't find said entry.
There exists a streaming audio interview which discusses this claim rather extensively, specifically the (Hicks/Leary) material about smoking. I believe the claim is made that the only reason that Leary is famous is because there is "no cure for cancer" (the title of Leary's album; Hicks died of cancer before it's release). I don't know where to find this now, it was years ago that I listened to it.
He makes the claim in an interview in Maxim or FHM, I can't remember which.
- Also, he had in his blog a post stating that Carlos Mencia was half-german, which many of Rogan's fans have used as a reason to change Mencia's page upon reading without any background info. No source (aside from obvious enemy Rogan's claims) mention anything about this. Should this be added? Zchris87v 03:27, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Please, if we're going to call this an enyclopedia at least have some reputable secondary sources. My God, Joe Rogan's website as a key to stating factual information? To make matters worse, a few links to his website cited are not working. Secondly, Carlos Mencia is born to a Mexican mother and a Honduran father. http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/contributor/1809058891/bio http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0578788/bio
Thridly, Ari Shaffir, DL Hughley, George Lopez, and Carlos Mencia all tell a similar joke about who is going to build a wall to ensure border security if illegal immigrants are deported from America..... So who's joke is it? It is imperative that the objective facts be included on this page and not hearsay. This link should definately be cited in the article: http://youtube.com/watch?v=kPuu_VE7KOA
There is also no available references, not even in his website bio that he was ever a Junior Olympic World Champion. The bio states that he won the US Open event. However, that had to have been around 1985-1986 and the US Open doesn't have online records going back further than 1993. That I could find.Lesssthan (talk) 22:06, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
new picture needed
that is the worst picture I have ever seen of someone on wikipedia. for god sakes find a better one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.233.91.85 (talk) 17:22, 1 March 2007 (UTC).
myspace page
myspace.com/talkingmonkey —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.41.229.114 (talk) 18:19, 8 March 2007 (UTC).
geneaology
The article says the members of MCR are "Joe's mother's cousin's sons" Is that not the same as being his second cousins? Yes, it is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.199.243.1 (talk) 04:21, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Joe Rogan is 3/4 Italian. I can prove it by his own admission on the a radio show. Hello? Who the hell listed him as Irish, but excluded his Italian heritage when it's 3/4!?!?! Who's going to fix it? Wikipedia seems more like only the opinions of a select few get to decide what we read. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.49.181.241 (talk) 07:06, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Allegations of Homophobia (actual discussion)
The addition of the section titled Allegations of Homophobia is slanderous, baseless, uninformative, and a self promoting act. Let me explain.
First of all the who. Who added the section with an unnamed IP address account? 72.37.142.131[4]. This IP began editing on June 13 and ran through June 20. The person in that time edited ANT’s wiki 15 times in 3 days. From June 13-15. Then on June 15 began editing Joe Rogans wiki (only adding this article). The editing by this IP began prior to the TMZ article and ANT’s original myspace blog on the topic. ANTs blog and the TMZ article are dated June 14. The 72.37.142.131 editor began his editing on June 13 with that IP address. This shows it is not a fan reacting to the blog or TMZ news. His edits include fixing the way ant is written (he likes it in all caps), adding his myspace link, adding his official website, correcting the age and birth date listed, adding his birthplace, general maintenance, and cleaning up recent vandalism.
This IP user has intimate knowledge of a largely unknown comic. He edits ANT’s wiki [5] 15 times adding helpful, information, and personal information. None of which harmful to ANT himself (adding nothing about the plagiarism charges) Then adds a slanderous article to Joe Rogan’s wiki. Then one more addition of self promotion, adding ANT’s website to the Celebrity Fit Club television show’s wiki[6].
I believe the IP editor (72.37.142.131) is ANT himself. And this addition to Rogans wiki is an act of self promotion and not illumination.
The title is bias, and slanderous. The blog that started this recent incident written by ANT was written about a radio interview Rogan gave on the Opie and Anthony radio program in the year 2005 [7]. In which Rogan mentioned ANT’s name while discussing the issue of comedic integrity and plagiarism in the stand up comedy community. He offered no immediate evidence in the interview to ANT’s theft.
Joe Rogan and ANT had a professional encounter that perhaps triggered this incident. Joe Rogan was a judge on the television show Last Comic Standing. In which ANT was a contestant. As a judge Rogan called into question a joke ANT used. Claiming that he heard it before and attributed it to another comic, Jim David. This took place years ago. Prior to the Rogan radio interview.
ANT’s response blog dated June 14 claimed Joe Rogan is a homophobe for criticizing ANT’s work. And then offers an unwitnessed, unsubstantiated claim that Joe Rogan called him a ‘faggot.’ In a post-Imus world such a claim can only be done with the intent to end someone’s career.
The title is slanderous and not representation of the entire incident but only ANT’s off topic response to a person who judged his comedy on a television show to be of poor quality.
The body of the article is more self promotion linking to the first press ANT has ever received(the TMZ story.) And sending users wishing more information to ANTS own myspace to read his blog.
If this incident is going to be recorded on Rogans wiki it should not be in this form and should be immediately removed pending revisions. It is a slanderous, uninformative, act of self promotion on someone else’s wiki page by ANT (72.37.142.131).----badwordwit
June 22,2007
Bryan Callen - half-brother or not?
The Bryan Callen page says that they ARE half brothers, while this page says they are not. Both pages are uncited. IMDB says that yes they are half-brothers, which would mean that this page is inaccurate. See link: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0130437/bio
--Josh1billion 22:25, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Update: I changed this article to say that they are half-brothers because of the IMDB entry (which is the only current source). I cited the IMDB page with it. I'm not sure how trustworthy IMDB's trivia section is, but it's better than nothing and it's the only lead we have to go on at the moment. If someone finds a source more reliable, feel free to cite it instead.
--Josh1billion 22:30, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Rogan say's not on his internet forum:
http://forums.joerogan.net/showthread.php?t=10445&highlight=bryan+callen
"No, he's not my brother, but I always refer to him as my brother from a different mother." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.75.171.33 (talk) 15:37, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
They are not half brothers and this "fact" should be removed. An article on AllBusiness.com says, "Joe Rogan (right in photo) and Bryan Callen met on the set of the Fox Television sketch comedy series MAD-TV, on which Callen used to be a regular performer and Rogan was once a guest star. A friendship bloomed, based on their common admiration for the martial arts, pitbulls, women, and especially standup comedy, which both of them continue to perform." There is no mention of them being long lost half brothers. http://www.allbusiness.com/services/amusement-recreation-services/4368067-1.html On SuperiorPics.com, it says, "Joe has been widely reported as the half-brother of comedian Bryan Callen. He disclosed in a radio interview that he refers to Callen as his “brother from another mother” to explain how close they relationships are." http://www.superiorpics.com/joe_rogan/ IMDB now says, "Although widely reported to be true, Bryan Callen is not his half brother." http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0736579/bio It looks like someone took his comment of "brother from another mother" literally (similar to the comment, "sister from another mister). I am removing the half brother comment from both this article and Bryan Allen's article. Update - ok, I see that there is no "edit" button on the page (wiki noob). If someone can fix this ASAP, I'd appreciate it (I'm sure Joe would too). 71.225.210.77 (talk) 14:04, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
"The Bryan Callen page says that they ARE half brothers, while this page says they are not."
Oddly enough, it's now the same thing in reverse. That should probably be removed. Aoa8212 (talk) 19:56, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Daughter
Does anyone know anything about his daughter or his girlfriend?(MgTurtle (talk) 02:35, 15 August 2008 (UTC))
Semi-Protection
I've put in a request for temporary semi-protection due to the numerous instances of vandalism over the past two days by multiple IPs. 92708S (talk) 05:07, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Religious Views
His MySpace (http://www.myspace.com/talkingmonkey) indicates his religion is "Other", and in his blog (http://blog.joerogan.net/) he talks about various things spiritual and such, and I get the impression he might be a pantheist or something. I think we should remove the atheist category. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.196.166.56 (talk) 20:37, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- Rogan stated on the May 1, 2009 Adam Carolla podcast that he is definitely not an atheist, or even an agnostic.Mosedschurte (talk) 10:50, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- Can someone who can edited this protected page take that out? It's very missleading. 98.198.83.12 (talk) 09:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Took it out, No cited sources at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.98.42.166 (talk) 17:08, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Couldn't you put Joe Rogan in the "Religious skeptics" category at least instead of debating? 38.118.23.20 (talk) 10:09, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Controversial section
Why is there not a single source for the "controversial section"? The top of this talk page states "Controversial material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately...". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.226.154.48 (talk) 10:42, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- It mentions the source of the statement (a radio show), but I agree it should be removed (and have done so) until a source describes his statements as actually controversial. It also seemed like the section was misrepresenting what he actually said. --aktsu (t / c) 20:37, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Fixing links
Could someone change the link for the DMT , one of them leads to disambiguation instead of Dimethyltryptamine —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.231.6.57 (talk) 10:22, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Wrestling
Rogan was a Massachucetts state champion for the sport of wrestling in high school. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.162.154.129 (talk) 10:17, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Talking monkeys in space
Joe has a new comedy special called "talking monkeys in space" some one shoould look it up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.41.68.35 (talk) 09:28, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Joe Rogan and Dane Cook 'feud' over
Rogan had Dane Cook as a guest on his podcast (Number 33, 3rd August 2010), and he (Rogan) said (at the close of the podcast [2h26m]) that Cook was "...a good dude", and that he was "...glad we put all that shit past and hung out.....I think you doing some awesome shit". Cook replied; "That means the world hearing that from you Joe...you've got alot of integrity and i've always had alot of respect for you". They also revealed that they had been buddies since the 1990's. BTW - the source for the argument quoted in the article is 404.
ufc
where is everything about his commentary on ufc? this article needs serious attention....think i will have to do some research —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andyjlaidlaw (talk • contribs) 19:10, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from AnythingXanytime, 6 September 2010
{{editsemiprotected}} There is a source that can be used as a reference to prove that Joe is an atheist: http://twitter.com/joerogan/status/23034373271
AnythingXanytime (talk) 16:25, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. I'm sorry, but Twitter is not considered to be a reliable source. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 22:29, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
And this is why wikipedia is a joke. lol. AnythingXanytime (talk) 13:31, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
The posts shows that he's secular, not atheist; and the article already says that . . . 96.237.129.131 (talk) 07:39, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Joe is for sure no longer an Atheist. He was at one point, but now he's more agnostic. He credits hours in the isolation tank and his experience with hallucinogenics with that. He talks about it on his message board quite a bit. Although having it come out of Joe's own mouth wouldn't be good enough for Wiki. This place is a damn joke. 65.118.16.36 (talk) 18:23, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Adult entertainer?
Why does it say Joe's an adult entertainer, with a link to the pornographic actor article.
I would edit it but don't know how.Adam —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.178.112.106 (talk) 11:34, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, that is definitely not true. Perhaps because his podcast is sponsored by Fleshlight? I came in here to see if anyone else had mentioned that. I think that would justify an edit.173.19.108.53 (talk) 04:08, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
- Okay I saw someone changed it a few days ago, now it was back and I removed the link again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.178.112.106 (talk) 18:21, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- A specific editor keeps adding this to the article without supplying a citation. Claiming someone is an "adult entertainer" is generally considered controversial. Making that claim without supplying a good source runs afoul of Wikipedia policy concerning biographies of living people and should be deleted immediately. If the editor comes up with a good source then we can reconsider including that information, till then it needs to go and stay gone. SQGibbon (talk) 02:04, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
No Mention of NewsRadio
Joe was a regular cast member on the sitcom NewsRadio for years. It's not mentioned at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.163.187 (talk) 18:20, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
Joe Rogan and XM 105 The Virus announce new show to begin airing Sundays on May 22, 2011. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.79.7.15 (talk) 13:59, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from FomtheRB, 14 April 2011
Joe Rogan was quoted as saying after the UFC heavyweight fight for the belt, when (Dana smooth white like a cream night) TKO'd (Fodor built like a brick Door axe killer) in the quickest fight in history, ending in under 10 seconds, when Mike Goldberg said “Why did he knock him out like that" and Joe Rogan said "Not for tickling Player”.
FomtheRB (talk) 11:36, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. We also need to know specifically what change you would like made to the article. — Bility (talk) 17:33, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from Sbiznessrogan, 27 April 2011
Height of Twilight
During the height of the movie Twilight, Joe Rogan frequently mentioned that he was a werewolf.
Sbiznessrogan (talk) 19:00, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
joe has also been know to talk about jelqing and how its very beneficial —Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.10.225.69 (talk) 22:47, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Alias
--Pk7tanner (talk) 13:16, 30 April 2011 (UTC)Broseph, Flappo, Ned Sr. & "The Batman of Comedy"Pk7tanner (talk) 13:16, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
TV Work
Joe has been in several tv shows most notably news radio, he co stared in 96 episodes as Joe Garrelli from 1995 through 1999 Staring along side such notable cast members as Dave Foley, Stephen Root, Andy Dick, Maura Tierney, Vicki Lewis and Phil Hartman. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beatlesfrankw (talk • contribs) 23:08, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from Killjoy9, 6 May 2011
During the "Twilight Days," Joe Rogan often said that he was a "Werewolf" as per The Joe Rogan Experience.
Killjoy9 (talk) 20:21, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Not done please state exactly what you would like added including refs. Monkeymanman (talk) 22:05, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from 75.18.183.146, 14 May 2011
Joe Rogan Podcast #98 with Daryl Wright, Brian Whitaker and Brian Redban. Daryl Wright says "you on some man shit" to Joe, he replies "I'm gunna put that on my Wikipedia"
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13986692 Around 54:00
75.18.183.146 (talk) 03:28, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- That's not something we want to include--Jac16888 Talk 14:54, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
On Humanism
I'm surprised that Joe Rogan's wikipedia article barely discusses his humanistic ideals and beliefs that is so prevalent with his video blogs. It should also be noted that Joe Rogan himself is a humanist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.250.227.148 (talk) 17:19, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
"Controversy" -> "Comments on Carlos Mencia"
The section "Controversy" is empty save for its subsection "Carlos Mencia". I believe the subsection header should be removed and the very generic section header "Controversy" should be changed to "Comments on Carlos Mencia".
from:
==Controversy== ===Carlos Mencia===
to:
==Comments on Carlos Mencia==
--195.14.197.88 (talk) _"Comments_on_Carlos_Mencia"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:58, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
- I removed the Carlos Mencia sub heading but left the main heading as Controversy as it is a generic heading that more can be added to in the future as needed. Jnorton7558 (talk) 08:36, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
- The section header should most faithfully describe the current, actual content of the section, not calculate for potential future content. It's neither accurate nor neutral to be talking about a "controversy" here, since it clearly and counterfactually implies that (i) the controversy is about Joe Rogan and (ii) that Rogan may have been wrong. A controversy concerns matters of differing opinions, not clearcut facts. At the very least, it should be made clear that if anything, the controversy concerns Mencia, not Rogan.
==Carlos Mencia controversy==
would be acceptable. --87.79.224.120 (talk) _"Comments_on_Carlos_Mencia"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">17:43, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Doing... - hold on for 10 mins, please, and I'll add more below. Chzz ► _"Comments_on_Carlos_Mencia"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:24, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Now Done.
OK; I have changed it from "Controversy" to "Accusations against Carlos Mencia" just for now. I will explain why;
- My edit is per WP:BRD - ie, if others object, they can just undo it, and we can chat about it. I did it immediately, because this is a biography of a living person, and because 'anything' (to remove 'controversy') is better than nothing.
I'll now explain my further thoughts, and why I think a bit of discussion is needed, in a new section, below. Chzz ► _"Comments_on_Carlos_Mencia"" class="ext-discussiontools-init-timestamplink">22:46, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks so far. --213.196.211.14 (talk) 23:24, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Needs restructuring
I definitely do not think that the section should be called "==Controversy==". Per WP:NPOV. Who says it was controversial? So I changed that, with this edit, per WP:BRD and started this discussion;
I don't know if we should include it at all, or not in such detail, due to WP:WEIGHT - in the dude's career, this is a tiny incident; it might've become a bit of an internet meme, but I don't think it has any significant lasting notability, and I think that giving it a whole section - or even a couple of sentences - is overkill; over-coverage.
Also, the section is too short; so are other sections such as "Early life", "Commentating", the two L3 (===) headings under "Personal life", and "Psychedelics". Typically, a section contains a couple of paragraphs. I could probably find something in our extensive guidelines to support this, but I'm hoping others will simply agree.
So, the article really needs some restructuring. The lede isn't a good summary, the section headers are a mess, the lede has excess wiki-links (common terms/don't add to understanding), there are unreferenced claims (e.g. in "Acting", "Martial arts", "Hosting". And some of the refs look a bit shady, from a casual look - blogs, and YouTube are not reliable sources.
So, I'm now going to appeal for help on WP:BLPN#Joe Rogan, and let's try and knock this into some kind of shape.
Thanks to all, Chzz ► 22:46, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
- In principle, I agree with the UNDUE concerns. However, wrt BLP it should be noted that things like the Mencia situation and Rogan's take on e.g. drugs etc became internet memes in no small part because Rogan himself actively maintains a youtube channel and frequently comments on these issues (not just in his standup performances). So, I agree with culling some or even most of it, but on grounds of UNDUE and V rather than BLP. --213.196.211.14 (talk) 23:18, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sure; I appreciate that; they're valid points, that I'm sure can be taken into consideration while we improve it; thanks, IP-editor, you've been nice about all of this. Can I interest you in getting an account, perhaps? Chzz ► 23:36, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
- BTDT. --213.196.211.14 (talk) 23:40, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sure; I appreciate that; they're valid points, that I'm sure can be taken into consideration while we improve it; thanks, IP-editor, you've been nice about all of this. Can I interest you in getting an account, perhaps? Chzz ► 23:36, 27 July 2011 (UTC)