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***You're right; I'm misremembering the guideline. [[WP:Manual of Style/Music#Capitalization]] says: "Titles that include parentheses should be capitalized as follows: the part outside the parentheses should be capitalized as if the parenthetical words are not present; the part inside the parentheses should be capitalized as if there were no parentheses at all." Thus, I '''Support''' the proposal. I apologize. [[User:LtPowers|Powers]] <sup><small><small>[[User talk:LtPowers|T]]</small></small></sup> 04:00, 26 February 2012 (UTC) |
***You're right; I'm misremembering the guideline. [[WP:Manual of Style/Music#Capitalization]] says: "Titles that include parentheses should be capitalized as follows: the part outside the parentheses should be capitalized as if the parenthetical words are not present; the part inside the parentheses should be capitalized as if there were no parentheses at all." Thus, I '''Support''' the proposal. I apologize. [[User:LtPowers|Powers]] <sup><small><small>[[User talk:LtPowers|T]]</small></small></sup> 04:00, 26 February 2012 (UTC) |
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Yet another stupid decision by Favonian. See you on [[WP:ANI]]. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 23:49, 2 March 2012 (UTC) |
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An infobox for the Hillside Singers version was requested at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Missing_encyclopedic_articles/List_of_notable_songs/7. Done Wasn't the original "i'd like to buy the world a coke" but the lyrics had to be changed for the pop record to air on non-commercial radio / tv?
As I remember it, the pop song was first, then the rights were purchased by Coke not long after the song came out and then the commercials made. However a quick Google search hasn't turned up proof one way or another. Until someone can come up with a definitive word on the chronology, I'm removing references to which was first. -- Infrogmation 17:45 Dec 3, 2002 (UTC)
The commercial came first. See this: http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/ccmphtml/colaadv.html soulpatch
- Ah, thanks for the reference. The melody was based on a Roger Cook-Roger Greenaway song that Cook and Davis reworked to incorporate the melody used for the campaign slogan "It's the Real Thing." So it seems that the melody came first, then the Coke lyrics, then the non-Coke lyrics. -- Infrogmation
- I didn't know that the melody originated elsewhere. maybe that should be worked in with the part I just added on Oasis, or maybe that part should be moved to the appropriate author's article (if we have one already). --KQ 21:58 Dec 3, 2002 (UTC)
Coke ad/South Africa fact
Hi; I'm trying to find out if I can track or verify the source for the South Africa fact in the "I'd Like to Teach the World To Sing" article.
It was added by an anonymous editor. Given its lack of citation and questionable nature, I'm removing it. If anyone can confirm and cite, please do. Friday 03:32, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
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Origin comment / question (moved from article)
Although I don't disagree with whomever donated this section. I remember way back many years ago the origin for this song was a translation of a scandahoovian +/- prayer, the +/- represents I am unsure of the original launguage. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.58.84.142 (talk • contribs) 07:46, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
More on song's origins
There's a four-page pamphlet on the origins of the song on the Coca-Cola Web site; I've added this as a reference. However, there's possible conflict between that and other sources.
The pamphlet declares that the melody originated as "Mom, True Love and Apple Pie" by Cook and Greenway, and was specifically written as a jingle candidate. No mention of Susan Shirley or a release prior to the commercial.
However, many other search hits go with what the article says, which is that this was a recorded as "True Love and Apple Pie" in 1971 by Susan Shirley. Most of these don't look definitive, but there's one, http://lesreed.com/ , that looks like it might be a definitive Roger Cook Web site ( but why is it under the domain name "lesreed"? ) -- go to the discography and search for "pie". There's even a link promising to go to an audio clip, I can't listen to it since I'm not currently on a Winders box and the site is welded to IE and WMP.
So this needs to be reconciled or at least noted. I may pick this up later if no one else does.--NapoliRoma 17:39, 30 July 2007 (UTC
- I've got to wonder too if this song was first available as a non-commerical. I have vague recollections of knowing it followed by vivid ones of being surprised when it appeared in the "give the world a coke" commercials. I would have been 9 in '71. I haven't changed anything since my memory isn't a usable footnote. However, I'm wondering if coke is a good resource since they aren't impartial to the matter. Did that exact same line appear in later year commericals, (which would have fooled me)? I remember it distinctly as give the world a coke. Also a name for it with apple pie and nothing like the song lyrics sounds very vaguely familar for some song I learned in camp growing up. User:76.111.23.140 08:14, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- This site [1] linked from this one [2] may not be a usable citation, but it might answer your questions. Also, in future please sign your posts by using four tildes. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 12:37, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
I don't see four tildes on yours or anyone else. What are you referring to? I haven't commented much on wiki, am I missing something? Often on the internet someone says something, which then gets repeated, until it becomes accepted. I'm not sure I'd take a blog or none-published media as anything more than that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.111.23.140 (talk) 15:48, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- That's because when you hit "save", the system converts the four tildes. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 23:28, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
I can't document this but "True Love and Apple Pie" was definitely played quite frequently on Radio Luxembourg well before the Coke advert came to the UK but as with most pop songs it just faded away. I can remember when I first heard the Coke version that it was obvious that it had been recycled. Not having taken any great interest in the subject over the years I've always assumed this was an established fact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.192.26.55 (talk) 10:45, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
New Seekers
This article has gone a bit askew. The New Seekers' version was the one that reached UK#1 and US#7, but this isn't properly mentioned - and I'm not sure that it was their version that was used for the original advert. They didn't release it till the end of the year as a single. --Tuzapicabit (talk) 01:10, 8 September 2008 (UTC)(talk) 01:05, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Christmas version
When and where was the Christmas version filmed ? —MJBurrage(T•C) 14:17, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Which hilltop for the ad?
I was curious about the actual hilltop used in the ad. Supposedly it was near Sacrofano.[3] I browsed Google Earth, and there are several hills nearby, so I cannot deduce which one. — Eoghanacht talk 03:10, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
National Lampoon parody
Although not worthy of inclusion in the article, I can't help but post the National Lampoon parody subscription offer (which I can only recall from memory - will any other Wikipedian be able to locate the actual issue of the Lampoon with it?)
- I'd like to teach the world to sing
- And tell it jokes and stuff
- Then pull its pants down to its shoes
- And chase it through the rough
- Then tie it up with bonds and straps
- And check its purse for change
- And leave it out at Moose Grin Hall
- With our cousin, who's deranged
- It's the real thing (and the joke is) only $6.95.......
As I recall there were also gag photos with it, parodying the original "mountaintop" commercial.
Partnerfrance (talk) 10:54, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Wrong year
A quick Google on No.1's in the UK and US show it was not a hit in 1971, but was in 1972.
86.3.248.206 (talk) 23:51, 24 April 2011 (UTC)Darenn
- Yes, but perhaps a bit too quick! It was released in late 1971 and became a hit in 1971 but reached No.1 in January 1972.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 08:23, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
Move request
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: moved to I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing (in Perfect Harmony). Favonian (talk) 19:25, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing (In Perfect Harmony) → I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing (in Perfect Harmony) – Parenthetical titles should be capitalized as if there were no parentheses, i.e. "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing in Perfect Harmony", and in that case, in should not be capitalized. --The Evil IP address (talk) 09:58, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
Oppose; actual practice is to capitalize each part of the title as if it stood alone. Powers T 19:26, 24 February 2012 (UTC)- This practice could lead to quite awkward results with articles like "(You're the) Devil in Disguise". --The Evil IP address (talk) 09:34, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
- You're right; I'm misremembering the guideline. WP:Manual of Style/Music#Capitalization says: "Titles that include parentheses should be capitalized as follows: the part outside the parentheses should be capitalized as if the parenthetical words are not present; the part inside the parentheses should be capitalized as if there were no parentheses at all." Thus, I Support the proposal. I apologize. Powers T 04:00, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
- This practice could lead to quite awkward results with articles like "(You're the) Devil in Disguise". --The Evil IP address (talk) 09:34, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
MOS madness
Yet another stupid decision by Favonian. See you on WP:ANI. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:49, 2 March 2012 (UTC)