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The main article is [[Illegal immigration to the United States]], the category is [[:Category:Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States]] and almost all things listed in there say "illegal immigrant" not "undocumented". [[Undocumented immigrants]] redirects to [[Illegal immigration]]. I undid an IP address changing this, but was then reverted by :{{ping|EEng}}. Opinions please. Which terminology should be used? Sources in the article and elsewhere use both. [[User:Dream Focus | '''<span style="color:blue">D</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:red">e</span><span style="color:orange">a</span><span style="color:purple">m</span> <span style="color:blue">Focus</span>''']] 21:51, 14 July 2018 (UTC) |
The main article is [[Illegal immigration to the United States]], the category is [[:Category:Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States]] and almost all things listed in there say "illegal immigrant" not "undocumented". [[Undocumented immigrants]] redirects to [[Illegal immigration]]. I undid an IP address changing this, but was then reverted by :{{ping|EEng}}. Opinions please. Which terminology should be used? Sources in the article and elsewhere use both. [[User:Dream Focus | '''<span style="color:blue">D</span><span style="color:green">r</span><span style="color:red">e</span><span style="color:orange">a</span><span style="color:purple">m</span> <span style="color:blue">Focus</span>''']] 21:51, 14 July 2018 (UTC) |
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:Use of "illegal immigrants", per EEng's edit summary, is problematic by itself, and use of "illegal Latinos" and the like just comes across as deliberately antagonistic/insulting. "illegal groups" reads like it refers to terrorist groups that have been proscribed by law. Referring to United States citizens as "legal residents" in spite of the wording used by the source is obviously inappropriate. Describing human beings as "illegal" is not the same as describing the act/phenomenon of immigration with the same word; this is all elaborated on in at [[Illegal immigration#Terminology]]. Your version even went so far as to use the pejorative noun "illegals". [[User:Hijiri88|Hijiri 88]] (<small>[[User talk:Hijiri88|聖]][[Special:Contributions/Hijiri88|やや]]</small>) 22:36, 14 July 2018 (UTC) |
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This article is very well-researched and provides some excellent data on healthcare availability for undocumented immigrants. I think your article would greatly benefit from some more detailed discussion of how this data relates to healthcare as a whole in the United States -- how undocumented immigrants contribute to the national economy, how their health is affected by the work they do, and so on. I think the article would also benefit from added information on why this topic is important, not just for policy debate but also for public health and the economy. Some infographics and photos would also be a helpful addition! Great work on your article so far, LHall19 (talk) 02:00, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Illegal immigrants versus undocumented whatever
The main article is Illegal immigration to the United States, the category is Category:Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States and almost all things listed in there say "illegal immigrant" not "undocumented". Undocumented immigrants redirects to Illegal immigration. I undid an IP address changing this, but was then reverted by :@EEng:. Opinions please. Which terminology should be used? Sources in the article and elsewhere use both. Dream Focus 21:51, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
- Use of "illegal immigrants", per EEng's edit summary, is problematic by itself, and use of "illegal Latinos" and the like just comes across as deliberately antagonistic/insulting. "illegal groups" reads like it refers to terrorist groups that have been proscribed by law. Referring to United States citizens as "legal residents" in spite of the wording used by the source is obviously inappropriate. Describing human beings as "illegal" is not the same as describing the act/phenomenon of immigration with the same word; this is all elaborated on in at Illegal immigration#Terminology. Your version even went so far as to use the pejorative noun "illegals". Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 22:36, 14 July 2018 (UTC)