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::::Apologies, I misread that it was a forum. Eurogamer is a very well respected website, the quote came from the '''''creative lead''''' not "a pixel counter in europe". You misunderstand the concept of scaling (the original resolution could be 800x600, but Haze could ''upscale'' to 720p, it doesn't mean it has to display in 800x600), and '''yet again''', please go read the article on [[wp:verifiable|verifiable sources]]. Thanks! [[User:Falcon9x5|Fin]][[Special:Contributions/Falcon9x5|©]][[User talk:Falcon9x5|™]] 12:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC) |
::::Apologies, I misread that it was a forum. Eurogamer is a very well respected website, the quote came from the '''''creative lead''''' not "a pixel counter in europe". You misunderstand the concept of scaling (the original resolution could be 800x600, but Haze could ''upscale'' to 720p, it doesn't mean it has to display in 800x600), and '''yet again''', please go read the article on [[wp:verifiable|verifiable sources]]. Thanks! [[User:Falcon9x5|Fin]][[Special:Contributions/Falcon9x5|©]][[User talk:Falcon9x5|™]] 12:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:::::Don't bother arguing with Cliché Online, he's a delusional and hypocritical fanboy (see two of his previous edits [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1080p&diff=prev&oldid=218825820 here] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ninja_Gaiden_II_%282008_video_game%29&diff=prev&oldid=216794821 here] for examples). The fact is, the '''native''' resolution of Haze is 576p and was confirmed by the '''project lead''' on the game. [[User:SeanMooney|SeanMooney]] ([[User talk:SeanMooney|talk]]) 12:56, 17 June 2008 (UTC) |
:::::Don't bother arguing with Cliché Online, he's a delusional and hypocritical fanboy (see two of his previous edits [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1080p&diff=prev&oldid=218825820 here] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ninja_Gaiden_II_%282008_video_game%29&diff=prev&oldid=216794821 here] for examples). The fact is, the '''native''' resolution of Haze is 576p and was confirmed by the '''project lead''' on the game. [[User:SeanMooney|SeanMooney]] ([[User talk:SeanMooney|talk]]) 12:56, 17 June 2008 (UTC) |
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::looks like a personal attack is it? hey seems sockpuppetry at work, a guy editing pretty much the same thing, the very same way (the haze [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Haze_%28video_game%29&action=historyedit history] make it pretty clear!), the same article at the same moment funny isn'it? two guys with an xbox coming here to edit an article about a game they don't have on a rival console? hey hopefully is not a hypcrotical fanboy, why? because look at his userboxes: "This user doesn't care what console a game is for as long as it's fun." and "This user is a member of WikiProject Xbox". you are funny guy(s)!! :) [[User:Cliché Online|Cliché Online]] ([[User talk:Cliché Online|talk]]) 13:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC) |
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—Preceding unsigned comment added by ElSpec774 (talk • contribs) 17:23, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
http://www.jeuxfrance.org/Multi/Haze_1.wmv
From the Free Radical rep:
"Haze is scheduled for release on all three platforms at the end of the year.
Q. So no exclusive?
That is my final comment."
This has not gone exclusive —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ciaran500 (talk • contribs).
- What it seems like to me is, Ubisoft (the publishers) are saying it is PS3 exclusive (at least for a period), while Free Radical (the developers) are mostly saying that it isn't. Perhaps we should wait a while before changing it to PS3 exclusive, until there is more solid word on this. --Dreaded Walrus t c 16:04, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- On top of this, the US Ubisoft site still seems to mention Xbox 360 and PC (scroll down), while the UK Ubisoft site does not. There is still too much ambiguity. --Dreaded Walrus t c 16:09, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- I referenced Gamespot who specifically say "the game will now debut solely on the PS3 this fall.". So whatever the outcome, we won't be seeing the PC or 360 versions this year. The article no longer states that it's definitely PS3, or definitely multiformat - says there's speculation it's PS3 only, as evidenced by Gamespot. Fin©™ 16:45, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Also, the Free Radical rep says "scheduled", not "is being". Fin©™ 17:03, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- "Free Radical's David Doak has told Eurogamer that Haze is being developed for multiple formats after all - "http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=76830
- Also, the Free Radical rep says "scheduled", not "is being". Fin©™ 17:03, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- I referenced Gamespot who specifically say "the game will now debut solely on the PS3 this fall.". So whatever the outcome, we won't be seeing the PC or 360 versions this year. The article no longer states that it's definitely PS3, or definitely multiformat - says there's speculation it's PS3 only, as evidenced by Gamespot. Fin©™ 16:45, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- On top of this, the US Ubisoft site still seems to mention Xbox 360 and PC (scroll down), while the UK Ubisoft site does not. There is still too much ambiguity. --Dreaded Walrus t c 16:09, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- End of Discussion Ciaran500 08:57, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
- Or not. PSN download from today's update. "Haze is coming this November, exclusively on PlayStation3."~~Lazyguythewerewolf . Rawr. 21:42, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
- End of Discussion Ciaran500 08:57, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Sony confirmed today that Haze is being ported to the Xbox 360: "http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/ps3-celebrates-its-first-birthday-56-million-sold/18572/" Bigthecat (talk) 06:21, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Disregard above, that has no hard evidence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MantelKnight (talk • contribs) 06:37, 16 December 2007 (UTC) Any Info on the release date? Jan 15 is solid? comment added by MantelKnight —Preceding comment was added at 14:38, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Weapons
Knives are throwable in this game. I've seen developer videos on YouTube showing demonstrations of it. Please don't modify the article by removing my edit. ElSpec774 13:35, 16, March 2008 (UTC)
- YouTube isn't a reliable source, but I was reverting because you basically just capitalised a few words, and introduced throwing without a source. Source it, and it's fine. Fin©™ 17:40, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Lead Platform
Ubisoft has revealed that the PS3 is the lead development platform for Haze, should this be noted. Miseryrevived 20:49, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Input
Did the developer already talk about the way this game can be played. A PS3 does also have support for a USB mouse and keyboard. It is up to the developer to use or not use them in their games. Is anything known about it for this game? --Stef Nighthawk 14:51, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Exclusivity
Who the hell wrote that the PC and 360 versions have been cancelled? They have been indefinitely postponed, but nowhere does Ubisoft explicitly say it's not gonna happen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.194.46.6 (talk) 15:55, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Today at E3 07, SONY announced Haze a PlayStation 3 timed exclusive, this timed exclusive ends in early 2008 acording to Ubisoft so Haze will still be on the XBOX 360 in 2008. Shadowfyre 20:52, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
An example of a timed exclusive is GRAW2 or Splinter Cell Double Agent which first came out on the XBOX 360 as a timed exclusive and then came out on the PlayStation 3 early 2008.
In the third developers dairy ,the Aug. 1st, it is said at the very end the game in fact is ONLY on Play station 3 and not on time exclusive which I believe invalidates the E3 statment.-GasSnake or Poison Oak 22:08, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
The third developers diary, the developer did not say it was only coming out on the PS3, he said it was coming out this November exclusively for the PS3. It is still partially debatable about what he means exactly as it can be read multiple ways, but considering previous reports, it should be accepted as Timed Exclusive, or remain multiplatform until the developers clearly state otherwise. KanoBlade 19:29, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- The article indicates that the 360 version is no longer being developed...? Im gonna take that out since i cant find a source for that that i can read, can someone explain what the curent reference says? Everywhere online seems to say timed-exclusive John.n-irl 12:17, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
I haven't even seen an xbox 360 version confirmation yet... furthermore, the official website does not even have the xbox logo. in any event, john.n-ir, the source your looking for was a german website reporting on GC07 it says: "Wie wir soeben bei einer Präsentation des Shooters aus erster Hand erfahren haben, wird es keine Xbox-360-Version von Haze geben. Der Titel ist dieses Jahr noch PS3-exklusiv und wird voraussichtlich im November erscheinen, 2008 wird eine PC-Fassung folgen. Weitere Informationen zur Präsentation folgen heute Abend." http://www.exp.de/shownews.php?id=24424&aid=multi roughly translated "we just learned that the fps haze will no longer be on the xbox 360, it is a ps3 exclusive this November followed by a PC version, more information after tonights presentation. 207.210.20.237 01:48, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks 4 that, i wasnt disputing it because it was in german, just couldnt read it and it was the only source i could see(never thought of the logos and such). John.n-irl 15:10, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Sony confirmed today that Haze is being ported to the Xbox 360: "http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/ps3-celebrates-its-first-birthday-56-million-sold/18572/" Bigthecat (talk) 06:21, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm confused. That's not an official source. There's still no official source that says the game is still in development for 360. What you've given is a link to some interview that's full of blurbs. That part of the interview is unsourced. It just says "Sony" but that could have come from months ago when it was still in development for 360. So I'm axing that part until you have some official confirmation from a credited source, which is the Wikipedia standard. Billywhack (talk) 10:00, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Engine
based on a bit-tech interview iv taken the engine name out, for now ill put 'untitled - inhouse'. Anyone think of something better? Its definetly not Haze Engine(although i like mega-engine..ha) John.n-irl 09:48, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
360 and PC
Would anyone object to a rewording of the first paragraph, to remove the 360 and PC references and keep them in the development section? It would seem like the best idea since there is no versions in development and it would stop the constant rewording of the paragraph? It also seems a little odd to have in the opening John.n-irl 09:39, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Grammar Notes
Mantel and Nectar aren't in all capitals. Nectar isn't an abbreviation of nova-keta-thyrazine —Preceding unsigned comment added by MantelKnight (talk • contribs) 06:35, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Useful articles to reference
Couple of recent interviews on Gamasutra, which at some point it might be useful to reference somewhere in the article.
- Writer Rob Yescombe (22nd October)
- Project lead Derek Littlewood (2nd November)
--Nick RTalk 17:31, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Release date
the game is coming out December 4th. this is my proof: http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/Games. maybe someone should change it? or should it just be left as is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.65.48.142 (talk) 00:46, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Wii version
Why does the article say that there is going to be a Wii version? I am going to remove this until someone gives us proof that the Wii version is in development.(Myscrnnm (talk) 02:38, 13 December 2007 (UTC))
- Take a look at the history...someone has a point to prove or something John.n-irl (talk) 03:17, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
- How about this: http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=647087 Gamestop has a shipping date on the Wii version of Haze... and this is the most up-to-date information I can find. The Ubisoft website does not specifically say that there will not be a Wii version. I'm going to edit the page to say there will be a Wii version and cite the Gamestop website if nothing else. (Saintxhazard (talk) 08:56, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
- http://hazegame.us.ubi.com/index.php Scroll down, read bottom of page. And a retailer is not really a reliable source, they have other motives (i.e. sell games, some sites will let you pre-order games that are not confirmed for a console). And the listing wouldn't exactly be "up to date", Haze was multiplatform, so they mite not have pulled the page. The most up to date news story i can find is of ps3-only development. And on another note, Gamespot has Haze for Ps3 and Wii, not 360. I'm not saying it wont come out, or isn't in development, just that that's not a good enough source. John.n-irl (talk) 18:40, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed. If I had a dollar for every time Gamestop or whatever posted bogus release info...
- On the other hand, "exclusive" means jack shit in this business...--Threedots dead (talk) 11:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- http://hazegame.us.ubi.com/index.php Scroll down, read bottom of page. And a retailer is not really a reliable source, they have other motives (i.e. sell games, some sites will let you pre-order games that are not confirmed for a console). And the listing wouldn't exactly be "up to date", Haze was multiplatform, so they mite not have pulled the page. The most up to date news story i can find is of ps3-only development. And on another note, Gamespot has Haze for Ps3 and Wii, not 360. I'm not saying it wont come out, or isn't in development, just that that's not a good enough source. John.n-irl (talk) 18:40, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
- How about this: http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=647087 Gamestop has a shipping date on the Wii version of Haze... and this is the most up-to-date information I can find. The Ubisoft website does not specifically say that there will not be a Wii version. I'm going to edit the page to say there will be a Wii version and cite the Gamestop website if nothing else. (Saintxhazard (talk) 08:56, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
No HD!
Haze will run not under 720p. It´s resolution will be 576 p!
This should be mentioned in the article --Deficiency (talk) 07:04, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- What? Isn´t there a rule that all games need to run at atleast 720p on the PS3? And why would they need to run an ugly ass game like Haze at a lower resolution anyways?--Threedots dead (talk) 11:26, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Don´t know why, but it´s true. And there is no rule for 720p --> Look GTA IV it has native resolution of 640p and will be scaled up to 720p! And yes it´s an ugly ass game :-) --Deficiency (talk) 13:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Reception
Isn't this game more known for it's poor score than good score in Famitsu? Why the good scores first? 86.148.237.7 (talk) 10:57, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
It's under initial reviews, which it's true. However, it's critically panned. Not 'mixed' reviews as some editors try to cover it. It could be critically panned or negative. Take your pick. --HeaveTheClay (talk) 01:58, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Intial reviews still say "mixed" even though the article only cites 1 good review and the rest is clearly negative. Someone please fix this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.97.106.15 (talk) 11:51, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Including FHM score?
FHM gives all shooters high scores, they are a horrible review site and not included in Meta Critic nor Gameranking meta scoring because they are not reputable.
Their score is ridiculous and far out of band for the game, it should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.178.97.83 (talk) 19:33, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- FHM could offer a different perspective on Haze to a different target audience, rather than the usual "gaming press" JayKeaton (talk) 16:00, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- I belive they(or possibly maxim, apols if I am wrong), are on record(somewhere) as saying they reviewed a game without seeing or playing it. John.n-IRL 11:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
- FHM is not a respected review in this industry like Gamespot, Gametrailers etc. Therefore, they should not be included. Moccamonster Talk 16:13, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
- I belive they(or possibly maxim, apols if I am wrong), are on record(somewhere) as saying they reviewed a game without seeing or playing it. John.n-IRL 11:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
correct resolution 576p or 720p
the net says the game is 576p, how did it really work on your hdtv? it works in 720p on mine! mine doesn't upscale ps3 games to full hd when they are 720p. here is a picture of how it works on my tv. can you do the same with 576p please? what a pixel counter says on a forum is not the holy bible. we need facts. by the way 576p (EDTV PAL) cannot be outputted on a 480p tv (EDTV NTSC), so this is bullshit, the game is in 720p. Cliché Online (talk) 10:01, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- Eurogamer had an interview with the creative lead, stating it was 576p. Thanks! Fin©™ 10:15, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- i don't care about eurogamer nor the interview since the game is not in 576p but in 720p (i've posted a picture of my tv) as the creative lead says: the ps3 outputs 720p. why don't you correct the Ninja Gaiden 2 and Halo 3 articles but this one? Will you "correct" these articles too please? if you don't i'll correct your false info added in this article to the actual 720p. by the way can anyone posqt a picture of haze running in 576p on his hdtv please? i'd like to see that. Cliché Online (talk) 11:11, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- haze runs in 720p. thanks. by the way if haze was in 576p how could it run on 480p tvs? it couldn't? that's why it is running at 720p on hdtvs. thanks. Cliché Online (talk) 11:30, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- An interview with a lead from the game trumps a source from a forum. Ah, it's completely illogical to say if it's 576p, how could it run on 480p tvs. Look at just about any current-gen game. They all run on SD tvs, despite their native resolution being 720p. Thanks! Fin©™ 11:35, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- the fact is this is not a forum it is a news site just like the link you have used. you can have the actual source here which is an official developer's Q&A not a random forum and so is a reliable source, therefore i'll use this one. not about SD. all the haze shit came from a pixel counter in europe, his ps3 is 576p so he claims the game is 576p and everyone believes him like he was god. the thing is 576 is not available on ntsc ps3s that means haze cannot run in 576p/i in ntsc territories but 480i/p. now about your saying no all current gen games are not 720p, some are and others are 1080p like virtua tennis and gran turismo 5 prologue. 720p games are displayed on 576i/p on SD/ED tvs in pal territories but are displayed in 480i/p on SD/ED tvs in ntsc territories. know what your talking about before editing an article please. on top of it you have admitted you don't have haze! i did the test myself and the game is 720p as confirmed by the developper on his Q&A not a random forum. Cliché Online (talk) 11:49, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- Apologies, I misread that it was a forum. Eurogamer is a very well respected website, the quote came from the creative lead not "a pixel counter in europe". You misunderstand the concept of scaling (the original resolution could be 800x600, but Haze could upscale to 720p, it doesn't mean it has to display in 800x600), and yet again, please go read the article on verifiable sources. Thanks! Fin©™ 12:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- Don't bother arguing with Cliché Online, he's a delusional and hypocritical fanboy (see two of his previous edits here and here for examples). The fact is, the native resolution of Haze is 576p and was confirmed by the project lead on the game. SeanMooney (talk) 12:56, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- Apologies, I misread that it was a forum. Eurogamer is a very well respected website, the quote came from the creative lead not "a pixel counter in europe". You misunderstand the concept of scaling (the original resolution could be 800x600, but Haze could upscale to 720p, it doesn't mean it has to display in 800x600), and yet again, please go read the article on verifiable sources. Thanks! Fin©™ 12:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- the fact is this is not a forum it is a news site just like the link you have used. you can have the actual source here which is an official developer's Q&A not a random forum and so is a reliable source, therefore i'll use this one. not about SD. all the haze shit came from a pixel counter in europe, his ps3 is 576p so he claims the game is 576p and everyone believes him like he was god. the thing is 576 is not available on ntsc ps3s that means haze cannot run in 576p/i in ntsc territories but 480i/p. now about your saying no all current gen games are not 720p, some are and others are 1080p like virtua tennis and gran turismo 5 prologue. 720p games are displayed on 576i/p on SD/ED tvs in pal territories but are displayed in 480i/p on SD/ED tvs in ntsc territories. know what your talking about before editing an article please. on top of it you have admitted you don't have haze! i did the test myself and the game is 720p as confirmed by the developper on his Q&A not a random forum. Cliché Online (talk) 11:49, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- looks like a personal attack is it? hey seems sockpuppetry at work, a guy editing pretty much the same thing, the very same way (the haze history make it pretty clear!), the same article at the same moment funny isn'it? two guys with an xbox coming here to edit an article about a game they don't have on a rival console? hey hopefully is not a hypcrotical fanboy, why? because look at his userboxes: "This user doesn't care what console a game is for as long as it's fun." and "This user is a member of WikiProject Xbox". you are funny guy(s)!! :) Cliché Online (talk) 13:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
- An interview with a lead from the game trumps a source from a forum. Ah, it's completely illogical to say if it's 576p, how could it run on 480p tvs. Look at just about any current-gen game. They all run on SD tvs, despite their native resolution being 720p. Thanks! Fin©™ 11:35, 17 June 2008 (UTC)