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:Given that this is mentioned on one page only in this book and it was nothing special those days I have removed this from the lede and made a few corrections in the main body.[[User:Estlandia|Miacek and his crime-fighting dog]] [[User talk:Estlandia|(woof!)]] 18:42, 31 March 2013 (UTC) |
:Given that this is mentioned on one page only in this book and it was nothing special those days I have removed this from the lede and made a few corrections in the main body.[[User:Estlandia|Miacek and his crime-fighting dog]] [[User talk:Estlandia|(woof!)]] 18:42, 31 March 2013 (UTC) |
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::Uh, so... advocating ethnic cleansing was "nothing special in those days" and hence it should not be mentioned here. Riiiiiggggghhhhht. It's obvious you're just looking for excuses to revert MyMoloboaccount in an attempt at provoking him. And even if these edits weren't bad faithed, they're still POV, seeing as how Meinecke's views "survived the war": [http://books.google.com/books?id=i6U3_K_Sm6sC&printsec=frontcover&dq=e+Guilt+of+Nations:+Restitution+and+Negotiating+Historical+Injustices&hl=en&sa=X&ei=uAhaUeDgKdCuyAHb6YCgAQ&ved=0CCEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Meinecke&f=false "Meinecke blamed the victims (Jews) in his widely read book... accusing the Jews of being hasty and greedy in enjoying their new power after German defeat"], [http://books.google.com/books?id=gXflC2Ipo_QC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Germany:+The+Long+Road+West:+Volume+2:+1933-1990&hl=en&sa=X&ei=lQlaUYmtBY7OyAGC7IDwDw&ved=0CCEQ6AEwAA#v=snippet&q=%22was%20not%20as%20controversial%22&f=false. "But when it came to the Jews, Meinecke's thoughts reflected the same old anti-Semitic prejudices"]. And there's plenty more like that. It's not UNDUE, it's PARFORTHECOURSE.<span style="color:Blue">[[User:Volunteer Marek|Volunteer ]]</span><span style="color:Orange">[[User talk:Volunteer Marek|Marek]]</span> 22:33, 1 April 2013 (UTC) <span style="color:Blue">[[User:Volunteer Marek|Volunteer ]]</span><span style="color:Orange">[[User talk:Volunteer Marek|Marek]]</span> 22:33, 1 April 2013 (UTC) |
::Uh, so... advocating ethnic cleansing was "nothing special in those days" and hence it should not be mentioned here. Riiiiiggggghhhhht. It's obvious you're just looking for excuses to revert MyMoloboaccount in an attempt at provoking him. And even if these edits weren't bad faithed, they're still POV, seeing as how Meinecke's views "survived the war": [http://books.google.com/books?id=i6U3_K_Sm6sC&printsec=frontcover&dq=e+Guilt+of+Nations:+Restitution+and+Negotiating+Historical+Injustices&hl=en&sa=X&ei=uAhaUeDgKdCuyAHb6YCgAQ&ved=0CCEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Meinecke&f=false "Meinecke blamed the victims (Jews) in his widely read book... accusing the Jews of being hasty and greedy in enjoying their new power after German defeat"], [http://books.google.com/books?id=gXflC2Ipo_QC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Germany:+The+Long+Road+West:+Volume+2:+1933-1990&hl=en&sa=X&ei=lQlaUYmtBY7OyAGC7IDwDw&ved=0CCEQ6AEwAA#v=snippet&q=%22was%20not%20as%20controversial%22&f=false. "But when it came to the Jews, Meinecke's thoughts reflected the same old anti-Semitic prejudices"]. And there's plenty more like that. It's not UNDUE, it's PARFORTHECOURSE.<span style="color:Blue">[[User:Volunteer Marek|Volunteer ]]</span><span style="color:Orange">[[User talk:Volunteer Marek|Marek]]</span> 22:33, 1 April 2013 (UTC) <span style="color:Blue">[[User:Volunteer Marek|Volunteer ]]</span><span style="color:Orange">[[User talk:Volunteer Marek|Marek]]</span> 22:33, 1 April 2013 (UTC) |
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:::It clearly belongs in the article, but perhaps not in the lead depending on how prominent it is mentioned in the literature about him. One article in a graduate student journal doesnt by itself suggest very high notability of this critique. [[User:Maunus|·ʍaunus]]·[[User talk:Maunus|snunɐw·]] 22:38, 1 April 2013 (UTC) |
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Historismus Translation
I changed the translation of Die Entstehung des Historismus from "The Origin of Historicism" to "Historism: The Rise of a New Historical Outlook," which is the title of the English translation (trans. J. E. Anderson, New York: Herder and Herder, 1972). Since the English title is not a direct translation of the German title, I thought it would be more helpful for English readers looking for the book to render it that way. However, if a more literal rendering of the German title is preferred, please note that the translation should be "The Origin of Historism" rather than "The Origin of Historicism" (i.e., the "ci" should be left out). This might seem like an insignificant difference, but the two words refer to rather different ideas, which are often confused with each other—I see no reason to perpetuate this problem. (For more on this, see the wikipedia article on Historism.)128.143.1.150 (talk) 05:54, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Supporter of ethnic cleansing against non-Germans
Currently the article fails to mention that Meinecke was an active proponent of the idea of ethnically cleansing Central Europe from non-Germans to make room for German colonists. --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 19:37, 26 December 2012 (UTC) I restored information with quotes that was deleted by anon IP.--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 14:24, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
- Given that this is mentioned on one page only in this book and it was nothing special those days I have removed this from the lede and made a few corrections in the main body.Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 18:42, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
- Uh, so... advocating ethnic cleansing was "nothing special in those days" and hence it should not be mentioned here. Riiiiiggggghhhhht. It's obvious you're just looking for excuses to revert MyMoloboaccount in an attempt at provoking him. And even if these edits weren't bad faithed, they're still POV, seeing as how Meinecke's views "survived the war": "Meinecke blamed the victims (Jews) in his widely read book... accusing the Jews of being hasty and greedy in enjoying their new power after German defeat", "But when it came to the Jews, Meinecke's thoughts reflected the same old anti-Semitic prejudices". And there's plenty more like that. It's not UNDUE, it's PARFORTHECOURSE.Volunteer Marek 22:33, 1 April 2013 (UTC) Volunteer Marek 22:33, 1 April 2013 (UTC)